slug.com slug.com
0 Like Show
[businessinsider.
DrN1 comments on May 8, 2019:
Is that a lot of money? well we all know that Trump is a great business man, actually the greatest. He is Making America Great Again because it was really a shithole before.
WilyRickWiles replies on May 8, 2019:
@MADcHATTER In the '80s and '90s he lost over a billion dollars, making him the single least successful businessman in America as measured by losses in multiple years.
[businessinsider.
DanMartinovich comments on May 8, 2019:
This is what happens when Democrats and moderate Republicans “work together.” Leaving the 200 or so conservative Republicans in the house and senate without a voice or a vote that matters. . This has nothing to do with Trump other than the deficit spending isn’t as big of a crises as the ...
WilyRickWiles replies on May 8, 2019:
Did the Democrats force Trump to increase Defense spending and cut taxes?
[businessinsider.
MADcHATTER comments on May 8, 2019:
I dont think Trump is wanting anymore time wasted on the Russian Collusion hoax...unless its to examine the people who pulled this whole stupid thing. Its the Democrats STILL pushing the phony Russia Collusion bull even today. And there is a very big difference between Deficit spending and the Debt....
WilyRickWiles replies on May 8, 2019:
His proposed budgets have big deficits too.
Why are only right-leaning people being called "Conspiracy Theorists" as they're being banned from ...
WilyRickWiles comments on May 6, 2019:
It's less that they're "conspiracy theorists" and more that they're "far right conspiracy theorists." The qualifier "far right" typically suggests an authoritarian and nationalist bent. Such speech has a tendency to incite violence against minorities. We're historically sensitive, for example, to ...
WilyRickWiles replies on May 8, 2019:
@jwhitten To answer your question about how I think socialism should be implemented, let me start by saying that I'm not seeking revolutionary change. I seek a socialism built on top of the US Constitution and driven by republican (small r) values. If we were starting from scratch I might go for something closer to libertarian socialism. But the powers of the existing US state have a lot going for them so my plan would look like something closer to social democracy. I don't think the following is that different from existing successful mixed economies, so I'm not worried that it would end in catastrophe. The remedy for any failures would be democracy. 1. Tax billionaires and multimillionaires more to combat extreme income inequality (e.g., wealth tax, graduated income tax, capital gains tax, loophole closing, IRS audits, and shutting down tax shelters) 2. Decrease military spending 3. Have the Federal Reserve adopt a monetary policy following the principles of MMT economics 4. Run larger deficits justified by MMT economics to fund domestic priorities and share the social gains from automation and other technologies 5. Reform the patent and copyright systems to promote more open exchange of information 6. Have the Federal government act as employer of last resort and raise the minimum wage 7. Provide basic income to people who do uncompensated care work for family members, who are engaged in learning or inquiry, who are engaged in artistic work, who are engaged in community service, or who are unable to work 8. Create a single payer healthcare system 9. Provide free opportunities for higher education 10. Fulfill the demands of the civil rights movement for equity in housing and education 11. Create institutions in poor communities to meet all of the basic social needs people have: e.g., mental healthcare, counseling, drug treatment, family planning, conflict mediation, remedial education, civic education, professional training, networking, and child care 12. Reform the criminal justice system to be more equitable and less punitive 13. Legalize use and regulate supply of recreational drugs 14. Decriminalize immigration and stop treating civil immigration law violators worse than criminals 15. Grant citizenship to anyone who has lived in the US for a certain number of years 16. Decriminalize sex work 17. Strictly regulate the financial, energy, healthcare, telecommunications, and arms industries 18. Break up monopolies 19. Nationalize (buy out shareholders) monopsonies using a public wealth fund which would pay dividends to citizens. Consider doing the same for all companies over a certain market capitalization. 20. Mandate a public stake in companies that benefit from publicly funded research 21. Make publicly funded research freely available 22. Bail...
Why are only right-leaning people being called "Conspiracy Theorists" as they're being banned from ...
WilyRickWiles comments on May 6, 2019:
It's less that they're "conspiracy theorists" and more that they're "far right conspiracy theorists." The qualifier "far right" typically suggests an authoritarian and nationalist bent. Such speech has a tendency to incite violence against minorities. We're historically sensitive, for example, to ...
WilyRickWiles replies on May 7, 2019:
@jwhitten And I think I would be remiss if I didn't mention republicanism, which I think planted the seed of left politics in the US.
Why are only right-leaning people being called "Conspiracy Theorists" as they're being banned from ...
WilyRickWiles comments on May 6, 2019:
It's less that they're "conspiracy theorists" and more that they're "far right conspiracy theorists." The qualifier "far right" typically suggests an authoritarian and nationalist bent. Such speech has a tendency to incite violence against minorities. We're historically sensitive, for example, to ...
WilyRickWiles replies on May 7, 2019:
@iThink Here's the sort of thing I'm talking about (from https://idw.community/group/NewsFromAllViews/post/34812/do-you-think-trump-should-enact-a-voter-id-exevutive-order-before-the-next-election-why-or-why-not?cid=1092347 ). The topic was voter fraud.
Why are only right-leaning people being called "Conspiracy Theorists" as they're being banned from ...
WilyRickWiles comments on May 6, 2019:
It's less that they're "conspiracy theorists" and more that they're "far right conspiracy theorists." The qualifier "far right" typically suggests an authoritarian and nationalist bent. Such speech has a tendency to incite violence against minorities. We're historically sensitive, for example, to ...
WilyRickWiles replies on May 7, 2019:
@jwhitten I'd pay more attention to the substance of different factions' criticisms of Trump. Which are true, which are sensationalized, which are nuts. And don't blame me for all of them. What tactics are really unique to the left? Look at the platform different candidates have run on. During the midterm elections, for example, most of them regardless of faction focused on local issues rather than Trump. Not a Biden supporter, by the way, but it's pretty clear he misspoke. Here's a few different tendencies of leftism for 'ya: social democracy, democratic socialism, and libertarian socialism.
Why are only right-leaning people being called "Conspiracy Theorists" as they're being banned from ...
WilyRickWiles comments on May 6, 2019:
It's less that they're "conspiracy theorists" and more that they're "far right conspiracy theorists." The qualifier "far right" typically suggests an authoritarian and nationalist bent. Such speech has a tendency to incite violence against minorities. We're historically sensitive, for example, to ...
WilyRickWiles replies on May 7, 2019:
@iThink And to be clear, I'm not even anti-market. I just think we can do a lot better and socialism seems to be the only morally solid ground to stand on.
Why are only right-leaning people being called "Conspiracy Theorists" as they're being banned from ...
WilyRickWiles comments on May 6, 2019:
It's less that they're "conspiracy theorists" and more that they're "far right conspiracy theorists." The qualifier "far right" typically suggests an authoritarian and nationalist bent. Such speech has a tendency to incite violence against minorities. We're historically sensitive, for example, to ...
WilyRickWiles replies on May 7, 2019:
@iThink Most of them didn't live through socialist rule unless you're painting with a REALLY broad brush. And regardless, they were all unequivocal political socialists. The type of socialism I support has worked under FDR, in our social insurance programs, in the labor movement, in multibillion dollar companies like Valve Corporation, and in Europe. I think you need to be more critical about the philosophical differences between different branches of socialism; between socialism and other political ideologies; and between different economic and geopolitical environments where different types of socialism have been tried. I am not blind to the fact that in the many criticisms of conflated "leftisms" on this site, capitalism is responsible for a fair share, particularly where atomization, secularization, hollow identity politics, elitism, corporatized media, and destruction of culture are concerned. To reconcile that with my values, I have become a socialist. Others find refuge in hierarchy, whether it is in their status as a capitalist elite, a Christian, a white person, or a man, for example. That ain't me.
Why are only right-leaning people being called "Conspiracy Theorists" as they're being banned from ...
WilyRickWiles comments on May 6, 2019:
It's less that they're "conspiracy theorists" and more that they're "far right conspiracy theorists." The qualifier "far right" typically suggests an authoritarian and nationalist bent. Such speech has a tendency to incite violence against minorities. We're historically sensitive, for example, to ...
WilyRickWiles replies on May 7, 2019:
@iThink Do you deny that they were socialists?
Why are only right-leaning people being called "Conspiracy Theorists" as they're being banned from ...
WilyRickWiles comments on May 6, 2019:
It's less that they're "conspiracy theorists" and more that they're "far right conspiracy theorists." The qualifier "far right" typically suggests an authoritarian and nationalist bent. Such speech has a tendency to incite violence against minorities. We're historically sensitive, for example, to ...
WilyRickWiles replies on May 7, 2019:
@iThink Those figures traced to an earlier branch of socialist thought. I did not imply that they branched off from Soviet communism.
Why are only right-leaning people being called "Conspiracy Theorists" as they're being banned from ...
WilyRickWiles comments on May 6, 2019:
It's less that they're "conspiracy theorists" and more that they're "far right conspiracy theorists." The qualifier "far right" typically suggests an authoritarian and nationalist bent. Such speech has a tendency to incite violence against minorities. We're historically sensitive, for example, to ...
WilyRickWiles replies on May 7, 2019:
@iThink Hate to break it to you but I'm not a Stalinist or even a Leninist. I thought that might have been clear by now.
Why are only right-leaning people being called "Conspiracy Theorists" as they're being banned from ...
WilyRickWiles comments on May 6, 2019:
It's less that they're "conspiracy theorists" and more that they're "far right conspiracy theorists." The qualifier "far right" typically suggests an authoritarian and nationalist bent. Such speech has a tendency to incite violence against minorities. We're historically sensitive, for example, to ...
WilyRickWiles replies on May 7, 2019:
@jwhitten But nobody should have kicked me out because I wouldn't have been spouting far right conspiracy theories... I'm glad that you are tolerant of my viewpoint, and I hope it stays that way. But it's easy for me to be cynical considering all of the posts on here invoking violence against leftists and liberals. If you truly don't have a desire for social conformity, may I recommend letting go your anger at certain leftist speech and being open to the possibility that there are different leftist factions representing different philosophies and different interests?
Why are only right-leaning people being called "Conspiracy Theorists" as they're being banned from ...
WilyRickWiles comments on May 6, 2019:
It's less that they're "conspiracy theorists" and more that they're "far right conspiracy theorists." The qualifier "far right" typically suggests an authoritarian and nationalist bent. Such speech has a tendency to incite violence against minorities. We're historically sensitive, for example, to ...
WilyRickWiles replies on May 7, 2019:
@jwhitten You know when things evolve you end up with different branches, right, and if you go back far enough everything is related. I don't think you would attribute such a body count to the branches of socialism that produced people like Jane Addams, Helen Keller, George Orwell, and Eugene Debs, to name just a few. If the latter had had his way we might have avoided all the dead of World War I! And I haven't even gotten into the ranks of social democrats. Your desire for a rigid social conformity which can only be imposed through authoritarian violence is betrayed by your conflation of and animosity toward organically disparate left movements.
Why are only right-leaning people being called "Conspiracy Theorists" as they're being banned from ...
WilyRickWiles comments on May 6, 2019:
It's less that they're "conspiracy theorists" and more that they're "far right conspiracy theorists." The qualifier "far right" typically suggests an authoritarian and nationalist bent. Such speech has a tendency to incite violence against minorities. We're historically sensitive, for example, to ...
WilyRickWiles replies on May 6, 2019:
@jwhitten Not sure where you're getting your number. Tens of thousands died in the American and French revolutions, for example.
Why are only right-leaning people being called "Conspiracy Theorists" as they're being banned from ...
WilyRickWiles comments on May 6, 2019:
It's less that they're "conspiracy theorists" and more that they're "far right conspiracy theorists." The qualifier "far right" typically suggests an authoritarian and nationalist bent. Such speech has a tendency to incite violence against minorities. We're historically sensitive, for example, to ...
WilyRickWiles replies on May 6, 2019:
@jwhitten Hey, I have my own criticisms of mainstream liberals, but I don't buy the "plantation" narrative you seem to imply. I never claimed the liberal revolutions weren't messy, but I'm sure glad they were successful. And I sure as hell am not going back. My way forward is solidarity whereas yours seems to involve fighting one's class peers and kissing up to supposed superiors.
Why are only right-leaning people being called "Conspiracy Theorists" as they're being banned from ...
WilyRickWiles comments on May 6, 2019:
It's less that they're "conspiracy theorists" and more that they're "far right conspiracy theorists." The qualifier "far right" typically suggests an authoritarian and nationalist bent. Such speech has a tendency to incite violence against minorities. We're historically sensitive, for example, to ...
WilyRickWiles replies on May 6, 2019:
@jwhitten The original post equated certain leftists with far right conspiracy theorists. I replied claiming that the leftists were more morally sound. Why? Because they are part of a philosophical tradition fighting to make people more free whereas the inherently authoritarian far right is working in the opposite direction. I like to trace it back to the Enlightenment. Back then the liberal professional class was fighting to supplant the feudal aristocracy. These days, leftists and some liberals are fighting for more freedom for the working class and marginalized groups. You may disagree with their methods, see them as misguided, or assign them ulterior motives, but I see their tradition of liberation as a virtuous struggle rooted in the universal rights of human beings. And I reject iThink's argument conflating such movements with Stalinist and Maoist regimes. Particularly given that they operate within and oftentimes in service of the capitalist status quo. Can I go back to being concise now?
Why are only right-leaning people being called "Conspiracy Theorists" as they're being banned from ...
WilyRickWiles comments on May 6, 2019:
It's less that they're "conspiracy theorists" and more that they're "far right conspiracy theorists." The qualifier "far right" typically suggests an authoritarian and nationalist bent. Such speech has a tendency to incite violence against minorities. We're historically sensitive, for example, to ...
WilyRickWiles replies on May 6, 2019:
@jwhitten **social movement** OP posited a number of "conspiracy theories" linked to social movements, i.e., women's equality, criminal justice, and immigrant rights. **liberatory** that liberates **in a capitalist country** e.g., the United States **demands** the goals of a social movement--what they're fighting for It should be obvious that those words are how I characterize the forces on the left that bring these issues to the fore, and that such forces are very different from the historical authoritarian regimes that iThink compared them to.
Why are only right-leaning people being called "Conspiracy Theorists" as they're being banned from ...
WilyRickWiles comments on May 6, 2019:
It's less that they're "conspiracy theorists" and more that they're "far right conspiracy theorists." The qualifier "far right" typically suggests an authoritarian and nationalist bent. Such speech has a tendency to incite violence against minorities. We're historically sensitive, for example, to ...
WilyRickWiles replies on May 6, 2019:
@iThink First off, the characterization of Nazis as leftists goes straight into the garbage. Second, there's a huge difference between the actions of a Stalinist or Maoist regime and the arguments and demands of a liberatory social movement in a capitalist country.
We live under such well-crafted illusions; the biggest is perhaps the one that is known as the ...
WilyRickWiles comments on May 5, 2019:
Is it a coincidence that goldbuggery is popular on the far right when the far right is funded by a handful of billionaires whose wealth comes from energy and mining? Do "the People" really benefit from expensive commodities at all, let alone more than they do from modern money?
WilyRickWiles replies on May 6, 2019:
@Republicae I get the sense that gold bugs are concerned not with the interest of the average person but rather the notion that they have been cheated out of intergenerational wealth. In practice, I suspect that the gold standard would have led to a stratification of wealth that would be more concretely akin to feudalism.
We live under such well-crafted illusions; the biggest is perhaps the one that is known as the ...
WilyRickWiles comments on May 5, 2019:
Is it a coincidence that goldbuggery is popular on the far right when the far right is funded by a handful of billionaires whose wealth comes from energy and mining? Do "the People" really benefit from expensive commodities at all, let alone more than they do from modern money?
WilyRickWiles replies on May 6, 2019:
@Republicae I was referring mostly to the post-2008 period. I don't deny that inflation exists and has existed. I'm just not sure how you weather the great depression, two world wars, and globalization with the old monetary regime (assuming that we wouldn't have seen a completely different set of events).
Crickets from the left on social media censorship
WowHaus comments on May 5, 2019:
Completely silent or just dumbass commententary like Alisyn Camerota from CNN calling Farrahkan who was banned in the recent Facebook/Instagram hit, right wing. Asinine!
WilyRickWiles replies on May 6, 2019:
Haha, OK. Last time I checked one's political orientation wasn't defined by their allies. Nationalists tend to be particularly pragmatic in that regard. Moreover, the Muslim Brotherhood itself is not a left-wing group. To the extent that people on the left support it, it is because it is more democratic than the autocratic forces in the region and a rare stable institution.
We live under such well-crafted illusions; the biggest is perhaps the one that is known as the ...
WilyRickWiles comments on May 5, 2019:
Is it a coincidence that goldbuggery is popular on the far right when the far right is funded by a handful of billionaires whose wealth comes from energy and mining? Do "the People" really benefit from expensive commodities at all, let alone more than they do from modern money?
WilyRickWiles replies on May 6, 2019:
@Republicae Under the current monetary regime, inflation is very low and the economy is very stable as well. I'm not an expert on every historical change in monetary policy, but weren't most such changes necessary to overcome massive economic challenges? I imagine that the economy and the share of prosperity would be much different (probably not for the better) if we had kept the old monetary regime. Certainly trying to go back would be catastrophic in and of itself.
Crickets from the left on social media censorship
WowHaus comments on May 5, 2019:
Completely silent or just dumbass commententary like Alisyn Camerota from CNN calling Farrahkan who was banned in the recent Facebook/Instagram hit, right wing. Asinine!
WilyRickWiles replies on May 6, 2019:
@WowHaus Is he not a black nationalist?
Crickets from the left on social media censorship
WowHaus comments on May 5, 2019:
Completely silent or just dumbass commententary like Alisyn Camerota from CNN calling Farrahkan who was banned in the recent Facebook/Instagram hit, right wing. Asinine!
WilyRickWiles replies on May 5, 2019:
Well he's a black nationalist whose ideology also has elements of religion, capitalism, and patriarchy.
Trump calls on Fed to cut rates by 1% and urges more quantitative easing
dmatic comments on May 1, 2019:
What is the MMT bug?
WilyRickWiles replies on May 2, 2019:
@dmatic I'm for it, but that's not the main reason I support MMT. I support MMT because I think it explains how the modern global economy works and because I think it changes the debate about budget deficits (in favor of bigger deficits within reason). MMT is for 0% interest rates because it posits that issuing bonds (at the Fed rate) is pointless unless you want to boost private interest rates and inflation. Why that is gets into the weeds that we discussed in that first link. Instead, MMT recommends using fiscal policy to manage inflation.
Trump calls on Fed to cut rates by 1% and urges more quantitative easing
dmatic comments on May 1, 2019:
What is the MMT bug?
WilyRickWiles replies on May 2, 2019:
@dmatic Banks would still charge interest, but it would naturally be low. Probably similar to the lowest rates following the 2008 financial crisis.
Trump calls on Fed to cut rates by 1% and urges more quantitative easing
dmatic comments on May 1, 2019:
What is the MMT bug?
WilyRickWiles replies on May 2, 2019:
@dmatic Here's a couple posts I made on the matter that should be a good start. https://idw.community/discussion/31335/modern-monetary-theory-explained-vox https://idw.community/discussion/32869/mmt-vs-austrian-school-debate-youtube
A Feminist Take on 40 Week Abortions - YouTube
WilyRickWiles comments on Apr 27, 2019:
Do you really think people are getting elective late term abortions?
WilyRickWiles replies on May 1, 2019:
@JulietteFrette Yeah, that's not data.
[youtube.
CRBG comments on May 1, 2019:
Clearly, what the **Marxists** and the **Postmodernists** have in common are the following two ideas (as Peterson mentions): 1. Viewing life as a binary struggle between oppressed and oppressor (the meta-narrative) 2. Viewing the ultimate solution--or utiopia--as the equality of outcome ...
WilyRickWiles replies on May 1, 2019:
@CRBG Likewise.
[youtube.
CRBG comments on May 1, 2019:
Clearly, what the **Marxists** and the **Postmodernists** have in common are the following two ideas (as Peterson mentions): 1. Viewing life as a binary struggle between oppressed and oppressor (the meta-narrative) 2. Viewing the ultimate solution--or utiopia--as the equality of outcome ...
WilyRickWiles replies on May 1, 2019:
@CRBG What's old is new again. Today's conservative movement is much more John Birch Society and less Cato Institute. Elections, polling, and discourse reflect that.
[youtube.
CRBG comments on May 1, 2019:
Clearly, what the **Marxists** and the **Postmodernists** have in common are the following two ideas (as Peterson mentions): 1. Viewing life as a binary struggle between oppressed and oppressor (the meta-narrative) 2. Viewing the ultimate solution--or utiopia--as the equality of outcome ...
WilyRickWiles replies on May 1, 2019:
@CRBG Hey, that's how I characterize defenders of monarchy, aristocracy, and traditionalism like original conservative Edmund Burke. Today's conservatives aren't much different.
[youtube.
CRBG comments on May 1, 2019:
Clearly, what the **Marxists** and the **Postmodernists** have in common are the following two ideas (as Peterson mentions): 1. Viewing life as a binary struggle between oppressed and oppressor (the meta-narrative) 2. Viewing the ultimate solution--or utiopia--as the equality of outcome ...
WilyRickWiles replies on May 1, 2019:
@CRBG Of course conservatives have a metanarrative. They see the forces of liberalization as ruining everything that was good about the old regime (back to feudalism). In practice it looks a lot like an inversion of the victimhood culture they abhor. It's no more simplistic or projected than your proposed metanarrative for Marxists.
[youtube.
CRBG comments on May 1, 2019:
Clearly, what the **Marxists** and the **Postmodernists** have in common are the following two ideas (as Peterson mentions): 1. Viewing life as a binary struggle between oppressed and oppressor (the meta-narrative) 2. Viewing the ultimate solution--or utiopia--as the equality of outcome ...
WilyRickWiles replies on May 1, 2019:
Isn't this overly simplistic? Many on the right, including to some extent Peterson, view themselves in a binary struggle against an oppressive government or a broader "cultural Marxist" conspiracy. That doesn't make them equivalent to Marxists, though the conspiracism might make them postmodern. Moreover, that's really not enough in common to draw the parallels Peterson makes. His logic is basically "Marxists share two (debatable) qualities with postmodernists therefore Marxists have all the qualities of postmodernists."
Trump calls on Fed to cut rates by 1% and urges more quantitative easing
dmatic comments on May 1, 2019:
What is the MMT bug?
WilyRickWiles replies on May 1, 2019:
MMT stands for modern monetary theory. There's a lot of buzz and a big debate about it going on right now. The reason I asked whether Trump had caught "the bug" was because MMT calls for 0% interest rates and printing money without issuing bonds even when the economy is strong.
The shooter in the Poway synagogue shooting was NOT A FAN of President Trump The suspect in the ...
WilyRickWiles comments on Apr 29, 2019:
True, but the common denominator is the "cultural Marxism" tropes that Trump and the right push and that motivated the shooter and other right wing terrorists.
WilyRickWiles replies on Apr 29, 2019:
@Halligan I'm having trouble following you.
How long before the Legacy and Narratvie Press conclude that the Synagogue shooter is an avid Trump ...
WilyRickWiles comments on Apr 29, 2019:
Seems unlikely. His manifesto was pretty clear that while aligned with Trump on some matters, he thought Trump was compromised by Jews. It would be rather easy, however, to support a narrative focused on the "cultural Marxism" tropes that inspired him and many other right-wing terrorists, and have ...
WilyRickWiles replies on Apr 29, 2019:
@chuckpo I even peed a little.
How long before the Legacy and Narratvie Press conclude that the Synagogue shooter is an avid Trump ...
WilyRickWiles comments on Apr 29, 2019:
Seems unlikely. His manifesto was pretty clear that while aligned with Trump on some matters, he thought Trump was compromised by Jews. It would be rather easy, however, to support a narrative focused on the "cultural Marxism" tropes that inspired him and many other right-wing terrorists, and have ...
WilyRickWiles replies on Apr 29, 2019:
@chuckpo You do you.
How long before the Legacy and Narratvie Press conclude that the Synagogue shooter is an avid Trump ...
WilyRickWiles comments on Apr 29, 2019:
Seems unlikely. His manifesto was pretty clear that while aligned with Trump on some matters, he thought Trump was compromised by Jews. It would be rather easy, however, to support a narrative focused on the "cultural Marxism" tropes that inspired him and many other right-wing terrorists, and have ...
WilyRickWiles replies on Apr 29, 2019:
@chuckpo Cold.
How long before the Legacy and Narratvie Press conclude that the Synagogue shooter is an avid Trump ...
WilyRickWiles comments on Apr 29, 2019:
Seems unlikely. His manifesto was pretty clear that while aligned with Trump on some matters, he thought Trump was compromised by Jews. It would be rather easy, however, to support a narrative focused on the "cultural Marxism" tropes that inspired him and many other right-wing terrorists, and have ...
WilyRickWiles replies on Apr 29, 2019:
@chuckpo I don't know why I expected better from you.
How long before the Legacy and Narratvie Press conclude that the Synagogue shooter is an avid Trump ...
WilyRickWiles comments on Apr 29, 2019:
Seems unlikely. His manifesto was pretty clear that while aligned with Trump on some matters, he thought Trump was compromised by Jews. It would be rather easy, however, to support a narrative focused on the "cultural Marxism" tropes that inspired him and many other right-wing terrorists, and have ...
WilyRickWiles replies on Apr 29, 2019:
@chuckpo Of course you don't name what I'm ignorant of.
How long before the Legacy and Narratvie Press conclude that the Synagogue shooter is an avid Trump ...
WilyRickWiles comments on Apr 29, 2019:
Seems unlikely. His manifesto was pretty clear that while aligned with Trump on some matters, he thought Trump was compromised by Jews. It would be rather easy, however, to support a narrative focused on the "cultural Marxism" tropes that inspired him and many other right-wing terrorists, and have ...
WilyRickWiles replies on Apr 29, 2019:
@chuckpo P.S. I hope you eventually get that argument with a Maoist that you're waiting for.
How long before the Legacy and Narratvie Press conclude that the Synagogue shooter is an avid Trump ...
WilyRickWiles comments on Apr 29, 2019:
Seems unlikely. His manifesto was pretty clear that while aligned with Trump on some matters, he thought Trump was compromised by Jews. It would be rather easy, however, to support a narrative focused on the "cultural Marxism" tropes that inspired him and many other right-wing terrorists, and have ...
WilyRickWiles replies on Apr 29, 2019:
@chuckpo I've known people like you before. You hide your extreme views under a thin facade of civility, use reductive rhetoric about human nature to disqualify other people's arguments, and spew a word salad of political stereotypes when you get mad. I'm surprised that unlike those past acquaintances, you claim not to be a libertarian, yet you are just as insistent that ideas can be measured devoid of any context, e.g. history. And still yet I find you insisting that other people's theories must be proven. The subject here is the "cultural Marxism" trope. You launched into a defense of nationalism and some sort of media conspiracy, both of which exist only in your mind. I have plenty of criticisms of corporate media, but I know engaging you is unproductive and I would prefer to avoid the credibility it would confer on your conspiracy theory. Let me know when you have a historical take on the use of "cultural Marxism" tropes or can better make a case that it's different when Trump and the IDW do it.
How long before the Legacy and Narratvie Press conclude that the Synagogue shooter is an avid Trump ...
WilyRickWiles comments on Apr 29, 2019:
Seems unlikely. His manifesto was pretty clear that while aligned with Trump on some matters, he thought Trump was compromised by Jews. It would be rather easy, however, to support a narrative focused on the "cultural Marxism" tropes that inspired him and many other right-wing terrorists, and have ...
WilyRickWiles replies on Apr 29, 2019:
@chuckpo I'll give you credit for one thing. You have a seemingly limitless supply of hot air.
How long before the Legacy and Narratvie Press conclude that the Synagogue shooter is an avid Trump ...
WilyRickWiles comments on Apr 29, 2019:
Seems unlikely. His manifesto was pretty clear that while aligned with Trump on some matters, he thought Trump was compromised by Jews. It would be rather easy, however, to support a narrative focused on the "cultural Marxism" tropes that inspired him and many other right-wing terrorists, and have ...
WilyRickWiles replies on Apr 29, 2019:
@chuckpo Ohh the projection is so strong with you.
How long before the Legacy and Narratvie Press conclude that the Synagogue shooter is an avid Trump ...
WilyRickWiles comments on Apr 29, 2019:
Seems unlikely. His manifesto was pretty clear that while aligned with Trump on some matters, he thought Trump was compromised by Jews. It would be rather easy, however, to support a narrative focused on the "cultural Marxism" tropes that inspired him and many other right-wing terrorists, and have ...
WilyRickWiles replies on Apr 29, 2019:
@chuckpo Perhaps then you're of one mind with Candace Owens being fine with Hitler's ideas and what he was doing in Germany, but drawing the line at the Nazis reaching beyond their borders.
How long before the Legacy and Narratvie Press conclude that the Synagogue shooter is an avid Trump ...
WilyRickWiles comments on Apr 29, 2019:
Seems unlikely. His manifesto was pretty clear that while aligned with Trump on some matters, he thought Trump was compromised by Jews. It would be rather easy, however, to support a narrative focused on the "cultural Marxism" tropes that inspired him and many other right-wing terrorists, and have ...
WilyRickWiles replies on Apr 29, 2019:
@EdNason Maybe you'll accept this source? https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Cultural_Marxism
How long before the Legacy and Narratvie Press conclude that the Synagogue shooter is an avid Trump ...
WilyRickWiles comments on Apr 29, 2019:
Seems unlikely. His manifesto was pretty clear that while aligned with Trump on some matters, he thought Trump was compromised by Jews. It would be rather easy, however, to support a narrative focused on the "cultural Marxism" tropes that inspired him and many other right-wing terrorists, and have ...
WilyRickWiles replies on Apr 29, 2019:
@chuckpo Are you ignorant of the history of these ideas or just a true believer? What are your thoughts on Pat Buchanan?
The shooter in the Poway synagogue shooting was NOT A FAN of President Trump The suspect in the ...
WilyRickWiles comments on Apr 29, 2019:
True, but the common denominator is the "cultural Marxism" tropes that Trump and the right push and that motivated the shooter and other right wing terrorists.
WilyRickWiles replies on Apr 29, 2019:
@Halligan He's using their (e.g., 8chan's) language--intentionally.
How long before the Legacy and Narratvie Press conclude that the Synagogue shooter is an avid Trump ...
WilyRickWiles comments on Apr 29, 2019:
Seems unlikely. His manifesto was pretty clear that while aligned with Trump on some matters, he thought Trump was compromised by Jews. It would be rather easy, however, to support a narrative focused on the "cultural Marxism" tropes that inspired him and many other right-wing terrorists, and have ...
WilyRickWiles replies on Apr 29, 2019:
@EdNason Dude, you are hopeless. I'll leave you to your own rhetorical gymnastics.
How long before the Legacy and Narratvie Press conclude that the Synagogue shooter is an avid Trump ...
WilyRickWiles comments on Apr 29, 2019:
Seems unlikely. His manifesto was pretty clear that while aligned with Trump on some matters, he thought Trump was compromised by Jews. It would be rather easy, however, to support a narrative focused on the "cultural Marxism" tropes that inspired him and many other right-wing terrorists, and have ...
WilyRickWiles replies on Apr 29, 2019:
@EdNason What I am saying is that he's using the same trope that Hitler used to justify violence against Jews and leftists.
How long before the Legacy and Narratvie Press conclude that the Synagogue shooter is an avid Trump ...
WilyRickWiles comments on Apr 29, 2019:
Seems unlikely. His manifesto was pretty clear that while aligned with Trump on some matters, he thought Trump was compromised by Jews. It would be rather easy, however, to support a narrative focused on the "cultural Marxism" tropes that inspired him and many other right-wing terrorists, and have ...
WilyRickWiles replies on Apr 29, 2019:
@chuckpo The globalist trope. When he says things to the effect of "the globalists are sending an invasion of migrants to destroy our country" or "the incredibly dishonest press are the Enemy of the People," echoing the Nazi term "lügenpresse" and German word "Volk," he's pushing the "cultural Marxism" conspiracy theory.
How long before the Legacy and Narratvie Press conclude that the Synagogue shooter is an avid Trump ...
WilyRickWiles comments on Apr 29, 2019:
Seems unlikely. His manifesto was pretty clear that while aligned with Trump on some matters, he thought Trump was compromised by Jews. It would be rather easy, however, to support a narrative focused on the "cultural Marxism" tropes that inspired him and many other right-wing terrorists, and have ...
WilyRickWiles replies on Apr 29, 2019:
@EdNason https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/78mnny/unwrapping-the-conspiracy-theory-that-drives-the-alt-right
How long before the Legacy and Narratvie Press conclude that the Synagogue shooter is an avid Trump ...
WilyRickWiles comments on Apr 29, 2019:
Seems unlikely. His manifesto was pretty clear that while aligned with Trump on some matters, he thought Trump was compromised by Jews. It would be rather easy, however, to support a narrative focused on the "cultural Marxism" tropes that inspired him and many other right-wing terrorists, and have ...
WilyRickWiles replies on Apr 29, 2019:
@EdNason Think 1930s Germany...
How long before the Legacy and Narratvie Press conclude that the Synagogue shooter is an avid Trump ...
WilyRickWiles comments on Apr 29, 2019:
Seems unlikely. His manifesto was pretty clear that while aligned with Trump on some matters, he thought Trump was compromised by Jews. It would be rather easy, however, to support a narrative focused on the "cultural Marxism" tropes that inspired him and many other right-wing terrorists, and have ...
WilyRickWiles replies on Apr 29, 2019:
@EdNason Need I explain the historical implications of conflating leftists and Jews and accusing them of running the world and undermining Western civilization?
How long before the Legacy and Narratvie Press conclude that the Synagogue shooter is an avid Trump ...
WilyRickWiles comments on Apr 29, 2019:
Seems unlikely. His manifesto was pretty clear that while aligned with Trump on some matters, he thought Trump was compromised by Jews. It would be rather easy, however, to support a narrative focused on the "cultural Marxism" tropes that inspired him and many other right-wing terrorists, and have ...
WilyRickWiles replies on Apr 29, 2019:
@EdNason Name one left-winger who traffics in the "cultural Marxism" conspiracy theory. It is antithetical to left politics.
How long before the Legacy and Narratvie Press conclude that the Synagogue shooter is an avid Trump ...
WilyRickWiles comments on Apr 29, 2019:
Seems unlikely. His manifesto was pretty clear that while aligned with Trump on some matters, he thought Trump was compromised by Jews. It would be rather easy, however, to support a narrative focused on the "cultural Marxism" tropes that inspired him and many other right-wing terrorists, and have ...
WilyRickWiles replies on Apr 29, 2019:
@EdNason Here's the first example of Trump using those tropes that comes to mind: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lLQ8IEm8PE
Self-Proclaimed Nationalists Interrupt Author, Chant 'This Land Is Our Land' at Politics and Prose ...
chuckpo comments on Apr 29, 2019:
Who's giving these choads voice? You have the far left choads poking at the bear. They've been nearly dormant for some decades. And, the far left is creating the perfect white supremacist storm for the extreme right.
WilyRickWiles replies on Apr 29, 2019:
@chuckpo What do you call it when Jordan Peterson, Ben Shapiro, Dave Rubin, and the like lecture about "cultural Marxism?"
Self-Proclaimed Nationalists Interrupt Author, Chant 'This Land Is Our Land' at Politics and Prose ...
chuckpo comments on Apr 29, 2019:
Who's giving these choads voice? You have the far left choads poking at the bear. They've been nearly dormant for some decades. And, the far left is creating the perfect white supremacist storm for the extreme right.
WilyRickWiles replies on Apr 29, 2019:
@chuckpo I guess my assumption of the subject of your question, "Who's giving these choads voice," was too charitable. You were referring to the speaker, not the white nationalists.
Self-Proclaimed Nationalists Interrupt Author, Chant 'This Land Is Our Land' at Politics and Prose ...
chuckpo comments on Apr 29, 2019:
Who's giving these choads voice? You have the far left choads poking at the bear. They've been nearly dormant for some decades. And, the far left is creating the perfect white supremacist storm for the extreme right.
WilyRickWiles replies on Apr 29, 2019:
@chuckpo i.e., the people pandering to "these choads."
Self-Proclaimed Nationalists Interrupt Author, Chant 'This Land Is Our Land' at Politics and Prose ...
chuckpo comments on Apr 29, 2019:
Who's giving these choads voice? You have the far left choads poking at the bear. They've been nearly dormant for some decades. And, the far left is creating the perfect white supremacist storm for the extreme right.
WilyRickWiles replies on Apr 29, 2019:
Always worried about the pokers. I for one, am more concerned about the strokers.
Zizek Peterson debate
el_canyonero comments on Apr 28, 2019:
I was a bit disappointed there wasn't a real marxist in the debate. First time he said "China" - i thought, great, we're going to hear something about why you are happier without elections. Sad we didn't get a real defense of practical communism and why people are happier there. I wonder why??? ...
WilyRickWiles replies on Apr 29, 2019:
@chuckpo Zizek's ideas are still a little opaque to me, but I gather that he's not one of the most practical leftists. For someone like that, in the US you might look toward people friendly to the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA). They realize the unlikelihood and risk of revolutionary change. So they draw on the ideas of a diversity of theoreticians and fight on multiple fronts: organizing workers to achieve workplace democracy, organizing communities to achieve local electoral power, and organizing nationally for social democratic programs. There are examples of workplace democracy in labor unions and companies like Mondragon Corporation in Spain and game developer Valve in the US. For examples of social democracy, you just have to look to the New Deal and Great Society programs in the US, social democratic governments and political parties in Europe, and some of the programs Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren might propose. One might argue that MMT economists play a role in near term efforts, in that their ideas may be useful to achieve social democratic ends, but it's worth noting that Marxists tend to disagree with their capitalistic means. However long it may take, the end goal is a world without exploitation and class stratification. They're not Marxists, but Sam Seder and Nathan J. Robinson would be good representatives of such views in a debate particularly because they have similar media profiles to folks like Peterson. I think a lot of actual philosophers would be too narrowly and theoretically focused for such a debate.
Was MLK Jr. an SJW?
iThink comments on Apr 28, 2019:
you flatter the folk who today call themselves SJWs. I believe MLK would be appalled at the actions and demands being made by self anointed SJWs.
WilyRickWiles replies on Apr 29, 2019:
@iThink You're gonna have to relate that to SJWs or MLK. And how dare you call me a racist! Oh my god my life is over!
Was MLK Jr. an SJW?
iThink comments on Apr 28, 2019:
you flatter the folk who today call themselves SJWs. I believe MLK would be appalled at the actions and demands being made by self anointed SJWs.
WilyRickWiles replies on Apr 29, 2019:
@iThink Also, I feel kind of like Zizek right now.
Was MLK Jr. an SJW?
iThink comments on Apr 28, 2019:
you flatter the folk who today call themselves SJWs. I believe MLK would be appalled at the actions and demands being made by self anointed SJWs.
WilyRickWiles replies on Apr 28, 2019:
@iThink Umm... it's her job to say what her employer tells her to say. No conspiracy theory needed. She works for TPUSA which is funded by some of the same people who have funded every other right-wing astroturf group since over half a century ago. Bradley, Uihlein, Freiss, Marcus, DeVos, etc. It's a matter of public record. Don't you think it's funny when these token figures with their identity-based movements like Blexit just pop up out of nowhere spouting propaganda like little right-wing robots? Have you fallen victim to the right's own PR? Nice try changing the subject. I'll stick with Dr. King, who showed us where to go from here, if we'd only listen!
Was MLK Jr. an SJW?
iThink comments on Apr 28, 2019:
you flatter the folk who today call themselves SJWs. I believe MLK would be appalled at the actions and demands being made by self anointed SJWs.
WilyRickWiles replies on Apr 28, 2019:
@iThink Let me just say that Candace Owens is on the payroll of some of the wealthiest people the world has ever seen and is simply spouting their propaganda. Hardly a good look for an individualist.
I would like 1 report, 1 study, that is trustworthy, regarding illegal immigration and whether they ...
Clammypollack comments on Apr 28, 2019:
I would also love to see a study that is neither tilted to the right nor to the left which addresses whether they cost us more money than they generate from their work
WilyRickWiles replies on Apr 28, 2019:
I don't know if any one study will address every aspect of this question, but here are some relevant facts that I've found: 1. They pay state and local taxes 2. They pay federal payroll taxes, contributing to Social Security and Medicare 3. At least half file federal income taxes using ITINs or fake or stolen (sometimes from dead people) SSNs, but aren't eligible for the earned income tax credit 4. They are a low wage and vulnerable (i.e., less likely to unionize or make demands) workforce, which has economic benefits 5. They add to the population, which helps our economy grow faster than, e.g., central European countries, despite sinking birth rates 6. They are ineligible for food stamps (SNAP), regular Medicaid, Supplemental Security Income (SSI), Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF), health care subsidies under the Affordable Care Act (ACA), and purchasing unsubsidized health coverage on ACA exchanges, but eligible for public education, emergency Medicaid, access to treatment in hospital emergency rooms, access to healthcare and nutrition programs under the Special Supplemental Nutrition Program for Women, Infants, and Children (WIC), and state benefits in 26 states. 7. They often pay more into public benefits programs than they get out 8. Immigrants are definitely a net economic positive by the second generation 9. All Americans benefit to some degree from current federal deficit spending Sources: https://immigrationforum.org/article/fact-sheet-immigrants-and-public-benefits https://itep.org/immigration http://www8.nationalacademies.org/onpinews/newsitem.aspx?RecordID=23550 https://www.cato.org/publications/immigration-research-policy-brief/immigration-welfare-state-immigrant-native-use-rates http://www.immigrationpolicy.org/research/addressing-common-questions-immigration https://econofact.org/do-immigrants-cost-native-born-taxpayers-money
Was MLK Jr. an SJW?
iThink comments on Apr 28, 2019:
you flatter the folk who today call themselves SJWs. I believe MLK would be appalled at the actions and demands being made by self anointed SJWs.
WilyRickWiles replies on Apr 28, 2019:
@iThink Hmm... it sounds like a temporary condition of some young college students. Have they really lived long enough to have the failures you speak of? Isn't this the type of individualism that America is all about? I suppose when someone blames their misery on the poor, left-wing politics, immigrants, or other minorities, that's just called being American!
Was MLK Jr. an SJW?
iThink comments on Apr 28, 2019:
you flatter the folk who today call themselves SJWs. I believe MLK would be appalled at the actions and demands being made by self anointed SJWs.
WilyRickWiles replies on Apr 28, 2019:
Are there really self-anointed SJWs?
I would like 1 report, 1 study, that is trustworthy, regarding illegal immigration and whether they ...
iThink comments on Apr 28, 2019:
what part of "illegal" do people not understand. they are all criminals by virtue of being in USA ILLEGALLY - so be honest about that and go from there. Crime committed by ILLEGAL aliens separate from their ILLEGAL status as pertains to their very presence in USA is a discussion worth having. I ...
WilyRickWiles replies on Apr 28, 2019:
I imagine that you know people who have committed or been convicted of misdemeanors, which is what illegal entry is, or civil offenses like traffic violations, which is what a visa overstay is. The latter is much more common, by the way. Do you call those people "criminals?"
Was MLK Jr. an SJW?
Tarkus60 comments on Apr 28, 2019:
I find very little in the way of demands in your highlighted sentences, and think this speech needs to be put in context to who he was addressing and the state of racial inequality at the time. MLK a Reverend and humanitarian did make some references, such as guaranteed incomes, that raise a red ...
WilyRickWiles replies on Apr 28, 2019:
Here's the topics that I gleaned from the highlighted sections. There are quite a few demands baked into them. And to be clear, I'm not condemning Dr. King. This speech was given in late 1967, months before his assassination. As you can see by his words, many of these problems were unsolved at the time. His death precipitated the passing of civil rights legislation, but I'm afraid much of it was stopped dead in its tracks as soon as Nixon took office, despite the valiant efforts of people like George Romney. Many of the problems remain right where they were in 1967 or not much better. Hiring and partnering with black workers, businesses, and financial institutions Voter registration drives Community organizing Government jobs programs Mortgage and loan discrimination Tenants rights Integrated education Housing discrimination The ghetto is a domestic colony America has victimized blacks Systemic inequalities of wealth, housing, employment, healthcare, military service, and education Connotations of "black" in language Psychological freedom Problems of power, racism, economic exploitation, and war Guaranteed annual income Full employment Work for the social good Poverty abolition Questioning capitalism and learning lessons from socialism Beauty of diversity
I would like 1 report, 1 study, that is trustworthy, regarding illegal immigration and whether they ...
Troy_Alias comments on Apr 28, 2019:
Key word being Illegal Leftist tactical approach always disregards this key word, instead showing statistics for first generation immigrants. Like most of the below links suggest. Click the first, it clearly says "immigration". This tactic was exposed in full on an episode of Steven ...
WilyRickWiles replies on Apr 28, 2019:
That has less to to with tactics than limitations of the available data. Regardless, please see the replies to my comment. The studies based on the American Community Survey do look at unauthorized immigrants separately.
I would like 1 report, 1 study, that is trustworthy, regarding illegal immigration and whether they ...
WilyRickWiles comments on Apr 28, 2019:
Here you go (for less crimes): https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/15377938.2016.1261057 Also worth looking at: 1. This summary of the above study: https://www.themarshallproject.org/2018/03/30/the-myth-of-the-criminal-immigrant 2. This summary by the authors of the above study: ...
WilyRickWiles replies on Apr 28, 2019:
@EdNason CATO also reported on some of the problems with the FAIR study: https://www.cato.org/blog/fair-scaap-crime-report-has-many-serious-problems . Their conclusion: "The SCAAP figures are not refined enough to use for estimating an illegal immigrant incarceration rate because there is not a good enough denominator available. However, using the best data and methods available still shows that the nation-wide incarceration rate for SCAAP aliens is below that of non-illegal immigrants – which includes native-born Americans and legal immigrants. FAIR’s report is a prime example of poor scholarship, but the authors are only partly to blame. The lack of adequate crime and incarceration data make such desperate attempts tempting."
I would like 1 report, 1 study, that is trustworthy, regarding illegal immigration and whether they ...
WilyRickWiles comments on Apr 28, 2019:
Here you go (for less crimes): https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/15377938.2016.1261057 Also worth looking at: 1. This summary of the above study: https://www.themarshallproject.org/2018/03/30/the-myth-of-the-criminal-immigrant 2. This summary by the authors of the above study: ...
WilyRickWiles replies on Apr 28, 2019:
@EdNason The study you cite is from the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR), a far-right, nativist think tank founded by a eugenicist: https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-federation-for-american-immigration-reform-fair .
I would like 1 report, 1 study, that is trustworthy, regarding illegal immigration and whether they ...
WilyRickWiles comments on Apr 28, 2019:
Here you go (for less crimes): https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/15377938.2016.1261057 Also worth looking at: 1. This summary of the above study: https://www.themarshallproject.org/2018/03/30/the-myth-of-the-criminal-immigrant 2. This summary by the authors of the above study: ...
WilyRickWiles replies on Apr 28, 2019:
@EdNason Are you referring to the first study I mentioned? They began by citing other studies in order to establish the body of knowledge they were contributing to. Did you read the following paragraphs on their methodology? They did do statistical analysis from real numbers. Did you expect biologists, physicists, mathematicians, or computer scientists to study immigration? I think you will find that most academics study topics in their domain, with the latter two more likely to study things like algorithms, and sociologists with statistical knowledge studying topics like these. I understand your distinction about studying the status of people convicted of crimes. For that, I would point you to the chart at the top of the EconoFact article. It pulls from this data source https://www.ipums.org/doi/D010.V6.0.shtml , which itself pulls from American Community Survey data, collected by the US Census Bureau https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Community_Survey . That survey includes incarcerated people and records their migration status. Here's another study, from the libertarian Cato Institute, which cites that data: https://www.cato.org/publications/immigration-research-policy-brief/their-numbers-demographics-countries-origin . And another from the American Immigration Council: http://immigrationpolicy.org/research/criminalization-immigration-united-states .
A Feminist Take on 40 Week Abortions - YouTube
WilyRickWiles comments on Apr 27, 2019:
Do you really think people are getting elective late term abortions?
WilyRickWiles replies on Apr 28, 2019:
@JulietteFrette And where is this data?
Which came first, Ted Nugent's libertarianism or his desire to cavort with underage girls free of ...
Ericrmusing comments on Apr 27, 2019:
The opening question appears to equate libertarianism with sexual deviance. Since the latter occurs in people of all political philosophies, the question is based on a false premise.
WilyRickWiles replies on Apr 27, 2019:
No, just Ted's libertarianism. Is it motivated by a desire to protect his lifestyle?
We had a training today in our school.
WilyRickWiles comments on Apr 26, 2019:
I would argue that racism is a multi-part problem, to which everyone is susceptible to some degree: 1. Cognitive: Our beliefs on race, 2. Unconscious: How society conditions us to respond to race, especially outside our network, 3. Class: Our willingness to correct inequities across class divisions ...
WilyRickWiles replies on Apr 26, 2019:
And I'll elaborate on the cognitive and unconscious concepts. A suburban liberal from the North like me might be likely to be cognitively anti-racist and have high unconscious racism. That is, my beliefs are very anti-racist but I don't see a lot of black people in my daily life and I might feel uncomfortable when I see them in public (an irrational "unsafe" feeling that might lead to avoidance or violence). My rural cousin from Florida on the other hand, has many explicitly racist beliefs, but is more comfortable interacting with black people in day-to-day life (i.e., he's better at treating people equally in person). He sees the black people he knows as exceptions, "the good ones," but hold the irrational belief that black people in general, particularly urban blacks from out of state, are inherently criminal and are going to come and take his stuff and rape his wife. Both me and my cousin might be likely to resist the public funding necessary to correct racial inequities.
We had a training today in our school.
WilyRickWiles comments on Apr 26, 2019:
I would argue that racism is a multi-part problem, to which everyone is susceptible to some degree: 1. Cognitive: Our beliefs on race, 2. Unconscious: How society conditions us to respond to race, especially outside our network, 3. Class: Our willingness to correct inequities across class divisions ...
WilyRickWiles replies on Apr 26, 2019:
@chuckpo **Racism isn't nearly the problem it was decades ago.** I'll concede that there has been progress cognitively, but I want to push back a little because it seems like you're making a broader point. Can you point out when racism was solved? I think to make this assessment we need to look at the different ways racism manifests. 1. Culturally 2. Through explicitly discriminatory laws 3. Through unequal protection of the law Have we made progress with #1? Surely we have, though I think we've had some setbacks in the last decade. Is it government's job to correct #1? Not really, aside from educating students and its workforce. How about #2? Surely we have, as Jim Crow was ruled unconstitutional and is off the books in most states. How about #3? Not even close. The demands of the civil rights movement were codified in the civil rights acts and Great Society legislation. Housing and education equality were stopped dead in their tracks. Voting equality was recently kneecapped. In the subsequent years, inequity in criminal justice has become an area of concern. And there have been laws passed with discriminatory intent (I'm looking at you, North Carolina). I'm happy to provide references. We need to make good on our promises. **MLK Jr. said it. You can't end hate with hate.** I see this a lot from the right. It conflates recognizing hate with hate itself and misunderstands MLK Jr., as I pointed out on another thread using his "Where Do We Go From Here?" speech. **2) Society doesn't condition us to respond to race in any negative sense. ** The human brain recognizes patterns. When you see black mugshots on the local TV news night after night without any context, and don't have many black people in your community, it conditions you to react differently when you see a black face in public. It's the images, not the ideas. **Every year many more white people are shot by police than black people.** White people make up a greater share of the population than black people. But they are much less probable to be shot by police than black people. I can think of several such stories. **Geez, several of those cases were black officers** As I said in my comment, "everyone is susceptible [to racism] to some degree." Moreover, the problem is less the racism of individual officers but police culture and a biased justice system. **Stuff like 'willingness to correct inequities across class divisions' is just words.** No, I had a specific meaning by those words. Mainstream liberals are happy to just put a handful of people of color into positions of power (the words "opportunity" and "representation" come to mind), but aren't willing to pay a dollar more in property or income taxes, e.g., to provide the equitable school funding mandated by law. MLK Jr. ...
Looking for edification: is there anyone here who identifies as being post modernist and or secular ...
WilyRickWiles comments on Apr 26, 2019:
I'm not a post-modernist. While that philosophy was important to the new left of the '60s, most of today's leftists have disowned it. As I understand it, it is fundamentally a moral relativist philosophy. Note, however that my universal philosophy comes from the Enlightenment, not the Bible. ...
WilyRickWiles replies on Apr 26, 2019:
@iThink I'll add that I also attended a good public school and would like everyone to have that opportunity. I have 7 Catholic aunts and uncles who are rather right-wing, which I believe is partially a product of a poor public school experience after a family move in the middle of desegregation, which required them to switch to a Catholic school. I understand why they are how they are, but I don't agree with their conclusions. This is what I'm getting at when I say post-modernism influenced conservatives: https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/09/how-america-lost-its-mind/534231 . I don't know if it's the effluent of the Enlightenment, because I think it came later, but it's certainly diametrically opposed.
Joe Biden's Running on a Popular Lie about Trump It's a lie that the left believes ...
Phrankhs comments on Apr 25, 2019:
Trump should just get the video and have it played without any comment The Democrats need the people to be in ignorance so their lies have traction Now there will be some who watch the whole video that don't have the mental horsepower to comprehend the lie, but hopefully it will be a few less...
WilyRickWiles replies on Apr 26, 2019:
And here it is! https://youtu.be/QGKbFA7HW-U?t=329
If the election were taking place now:
Guido_Provolone comments on Apr 21, 2019:
too few options. no one to date. I chose Johnson last time.
WilyRickWiles replies on Apr 26, 2019:
@iThink I like her but I don't want her to be President.
Should we allow states to let non citizens the right to vote in our elections.
WilyRickWiles comments on Apr 24, 2019:
I think we should go back to the original definition of citizenship in the Constitution, minus forms of discrimination that were abolished in subsequent amendments. That is, the original granting of citizenship to any free white man who had lived here for two years should be extended to women and ...
WilyRickWiles replies on Apr 25, 2019:
@iThink Note that it's only the people who appear to be poor and are brown-skinned who are being stopped. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzeAWFQCJVk https://theintercept.com/2018/06/16/immigration-border-asylum-central-america
Should we allow states to let non citizens the right to vote in our elections.
WilyRickWiles comments on Apr 24, 2019:
I think we should go back to the original definition of citizenship in the Constitution, minus forms of discrimination that were abolished in subsequent amendments. That is, the original granting of citizenship to any free white man who had lived here for two years should be extended to women and ...
WilyRickWiles replies on Apr 25, 2019:
@iThink I don't have a well developed theory of national sovereignty for the United States. If it's well defined in the Constitution, I'm not aware of it. If anything, it exists outside our borders in the world of treaties and intergovernmental organizations. Would I consider an invasion by a foreign government a violation of our national sovereignty? Yes. Do I consider immigration, authorized or unauthorized such a violation? No. Do I think we should have reasonable restrictions and processes for immigration? Yes. Do I think we should criminalize people who circumvent them, especially for people coming from the Americas, or who are fleeing violence or poverty that we may have had a hand in, or who have lived here for decades? No. Do I think we need to change the law so that its logical conclusion doesn't involve expelling or detaining millions of people? Yes. Do I think we need to look at history to inspire our immigration laws? Yes. Do I have a problem with a basically extralegal immigration force terrorizing millions of people on a daily basis? Yes. Do I have a problem with an immigration policy driven by eugenicists that amounts to ethnic cleansing? Yes. Is it absurd to tell people to emigrate legally when you denigrate them for "gaming the system" and there are so many obstacles in their way, e.g., border agents, decades long waiting lists, connections, and other requirements. Yes. Is the current backlash completely oblivious to immigration history and trends? Yes.
Should we allow states to let non citizens the right to vote in our elections.
WilyRickWiles comments on Apr 24, 2019:
I think we should go back to the original definition of citizenship in the Constitution, minus forms of discrimination that were abolished in subsequent amendments. That is, the original granting of citizenship to any free white man who had lived here for two years should be extended to women and ...
WilyRickWiles replies on Apr 25, 2019:
@iThink And I focus on broader immigration issues rather than voting because it reveals the fundamental philosophy of citizenship and gets to the heart of why so many people can't vote. Originally, most immigrants arrived through open borders and were quickly granted citizenship and thus the franchise (some may have had the franchise even before citizenship) and over time naturalization has become more difficult.
Should we allow states to let non citizens the right to vote in our elections.
WilyRickWiles comments on Apr 24, 2019:
I think we should go back to the original definition of citizenship in the Constitution, minus forms of discrimination that were abolished in subsequent amendments. That is, the original granting of citizenship to any free white man who had lived here for two years should be extended to women and ...
WilyRickWiles replies on Apr 25, 2019:
@iThink That was a reference to the ports of entry at the Mexican border that you brought up. Don't have time to address every vector of immigration or every point in your reply at the moment but might get back to it later.
Should we allow states to let non citizens the right to vote in our elections.
WilyRickWiles comments on Apr 24, 2019:
I think we should go back to the original definition of citizenship in the Constitution, minus forms of discrimination that were abolished in subsequent amendments. That is, the original granting of citizenship to any free white man who had lived here for two years should be extended to women and ...
WilyRickWiles replies on Apr 25, 2019:
@iThink You can't enter through the front door when agents profile and stop poor brown people and say "we're full."
Pretty dissapointed in the debate between Jordan Peterson and Slavoj Žižek.
WilyRickWiles comments on Apr 21, 2019:
Agreed. Peterson was exposed in this debate. He would have been better off rambling about Jungian archetypes. It was obvious from the start when he spent 30 minutes making the basic point that "everything reduces to human nature therefore we shouldn't try to improve anything" and extending it to a ...
WilyRickWiles replies on Apr 25, 2019:
@SeanT The difference came down to Zizek being 10x more familiar with Peterson's ideas than vice versa.
Pretty dissapointed in the debate between Jordan Peterson and Slavoj Žižek.
WilyRickWiles comments on Apr 21, 2019:
Agreed. Peterson was exposed in this debate. He would have been better off rambling about Jungian archetypes. It was obvious from the start when he spent 30 minutes making the basic point that "everything reduces to human nature therefore we shouldn't try to improve anything" and extending it to a ...
WilyRickWiles replies on Apr 25, 2019:
@SeanT He needs to prepare better.
Libertarian Party
plebeian_lobster comments on Apr 24, 2019:
No, a Libertarian candidate could not finish second in 2020. Not a chance. Even if they could, I couldn't name a Libertarian who is dumb enough to run in that party. If they are smart enough to win, they will run as a Republican or even a Democrat. I am not saying they shouldn't run. I am glad ...
WilyRickWiles replies on Apr 25, 2019:
@Facci I think a small minority of people see it that way.
Libertarian Party
plebeian_lobster comments on Apr 24, 2019:
No, a Libertarian candidate could not finish second in 2020. Not a chance. Even if they could, I couldn't name a Libertarian who is dumb enough to run in that party. If they are smart enough to win, they will run as a Republican or even a Democrat. I am not saying they shouldn't run. I am glad ...
WilyRickWiles replies on Apr 25, 2019:
Only two routes to a third party having success: 1. A mass movement that displaces the Republicans or Democrats or 2. Ranked choice voting or something similar.
A Canadian man has been charged with "Family Violence" for refusing to call his child a "he" ...
Snowdog comments on Apr 24, 2019:
This is the lunacy that we have come to in our world. Parents really have no rights in regards to raising their children. Who in their right mind can believe that a child has any understanding of their emotions at that young age and is it not the parent's responsibility to try and guide them ...
WilyRickWiles replies on Apr 25, 2019:
@John_G My point is it's a small percentage of the population. Why can't we mind our own business?
A Canadian man has been charged with "Family Violence" for refusing to call his child a "he" ...
chuckpo comments on Apr 24, 2019:
I'm not Canadian, so I hope I'm not over-stepping. Honestly, I don't distingush between you and us (the US). I feel like we're the same people--I know that's insulting to some Canadians, so I'll just note that's only MY PERSONAL feelings, and it's a positive one to me. What a horrific example of...
WilyRickWiles replies on Apr 25, 2019:
@CRBG As I said below, not a fan of Canadian speech laws.
Should we allow states to let non citizens the right to vote in our elections.
WilyRickWiles comments on Apr 24, 2019:
I think we should go back to the original definition of citizenship in the Constitution, minus forms of discrimination that were abolished in subsequent amendments. That is, the original granting of citizenship to any free white man who had lived here for two years should be extended to women and ...
WilyRickWiles replies on Apr 25, 2019:
@iThink I'm focusing more on the evolution of immigration law here rather than the narrow issue of voting. We had open borders and quick naturalization for nearly a century but when non-WASPs started showing up all of a sudden there were problems. What is the basis for the exponential increase in immigration restrictions in recent decades?
Should we allow states to let non citizens the right to vote in our elections.
WilyRickWiles comments on Apr 24, 2019:
I think we should go back to the original definition of citizenship in the Constitution, minus forms of discrimination that were abolished in subsequent amendments. That is, the original granting of citizenship to any free white man who had lived here for two years should be extended to women and ...
WilyRickWiles replies on Apr 25, 2019:
@iThink This is relevant: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_laws_concerning_immigration_and_naturalization_in_the_United_States
Should we allow states to let non citizens the right to vote in our elections.
WilyRickWiles comments on Apr 24, 2019:
I think we should go back to the original definition of citizenship in the Constitution, minus forms of discrimination that were abolished in subsequent amendments. That is, the original granting of citizenship to any free white man who had lived here for two years should be extended to women and ...
WilyRickWiles replies on Apr 25, 2019:
@iThink There were certainly some state laws before then. And the terms for naturalization increased over time. But every federal immigration law I can think of was prompted by the same types of racist backlashes that led to the rise of the KKK that you mentioned. I realize immigration law is common sense for some people but I have trouble distinguishing between the common sense and racist parts. First it was Chinese, then Catholics and Jews, now Latin Americans and Muslims. I mean, the US was founded by people from other countries and open immigration fueled its expansion for many years. Where do you draw the line?
Does anyone have an opinion on having the 2020 Census ask the question plain and simple.
WilyRickWiles comments on Apr 24, 2019:
How is it what our country was based on when there weren't immigration laws until the Chinese Exclusion Act and other similarly racist legislation in the late 1800s, ironically just as the Statue of Liberty was being dedicated? Unless you mean that our country is based on citizenship for any free ...
WilyRickWiles replies on Apr 25, 2019:
@GrandmaSandy The question I was referring to was the census question. I also do genealogy and have seen the records you speak of. Undocumented immigrants and their families have reason to be afraid because Trump's ICE is freed from priority deportation. With their quotas, they are focusing on whoever is easiest to round up--i.e., the ones they have on a list already who are not protected by laws like DACA.
A Canadian man has been charged with "Family Violence" for refusing to call his child a "he" ...
Snowdog comments on Apr 24, 2019:
This is the lunacy that we have come to in our world. Parents really have no rights in regards to raising their children. Who in their right mind can believe that a child has any understanding of their emotions at that young age and is it not the parent's responsibility to try and guide them ...
WilyRickWiles replies on Apr 24, 2019:
@Snowdog I think "a whole generation" is a stretch when half a percentage of the population at best is transgender. Surely this 14 year old has had plenty of counseling. He presumably has an opportunity to delay puberty now that will greatly improve the outcome of his transition.
Should we allow states to let non citizens the right to vote in our elections.
WilyRickWiles comments on Apr 24, 2019:
I think we should go back to the original definition of citizenship in the Constitution, minus forms of discrimination that were abolished in subsequent amendments. That is, the original granting of citizenship to any free white man who had lived here for two years should be extended to women and ...
WilyRickWiles replies on Apr 24, 2019:
@iThink And for kicks more context about the law from a center-left source (not about voting though): https://www.vox.com/2016/4/28/11515132/iirira-clinton-immigration
Should we allow states to let non citizens the right to vote in our elections.
WilyRickWiles comments on Apr 24, 2019:
I think we should go back to the original definition of citizenship in the Constitution, minus forms of discrimination that were abolished in subsequent amendments. That is, the original granting of citizenship to any free white man who had lived here for two years should be extended to women and ...
WilyRickWiles replies on Apr 24, 2019:
@iThink And from Wikipedia: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_of_foreigners_to_vote_in_the_United_States
  • Level8 (128,444pts)
  • Posts1323
  • Comments
      Replies     2,081
    5,776
  • Followers 35
  • Fans 0
  • Following 23
  • Fav. Posts 22
  • Referrals16
  • Joined Apr 2nd, 2019
  • Last Visit 1+ month ago
WilyRickWiles's Groups
Brandon Straka Group
29 members, Host
Controversial Charts
48193 members
Jordan Peterson Group
25437 members
Ben Shapiro Group
22987 members
Joe Rogan Group
16345 members
Just Jokes and Memes
14497 members
Tucker Carlson Fans
13549 members
Steven Crowder Group
10681 members
Dinesh D'Souza Fans
10234 members
Dave Rubin Group
10046 members
IDW Topic-of-the-Day
9848 members
The Culture War
9403 members
Free Speech Absolutists
7085 members
DaisyCousens
5902 members
Tim Pool Group
5879 members
Sydney Watson Fanspace
5513 members
Classical Liberalism
4844 members
Ayaan Hirsi Ali Group
4518 members
Eric Weinstein Group
3047 members
Arielle Scarcella FanSpace!
2802 members
IDW Political Party
2798 members
Politically Incorrect folks
2479 members
Anti-Socialism
2269 members
Learning from Christ
2237 members
President Donald J. Trump... Latest
2066 members
Politically Incorrect
2038 members
Liberalism Is A Mental Disorder
1568 members
Candace Owens Fans
1287 members
Nationalism is not a Dirty Word
1197 members
Statistics Matter: Facts Don't Care about Your Feelings
1035 members
Fans of Dr. Bill Warner, Ph.D.
931 members
Libertarian Freethinkers
897 members
Black Lives Matter - Exposing Them
810 members
Prager University Alumni
531 members
Feminism = cancer
474 members
IDW Atheists
471 members
Conservatives United
448 members
Leaning Left
192 members
Economics - facts and theories
168 members
Eclectic Encyclopedia
127 members
IDW.Community Senate
124 members
Boomers
92 members
Jesse Lee Peterson fans
87 members
The Extreme Center
56 members
Now You Are Talking With
48 members
Satanists and Satanism
39 members
50 Policies
23 members