Farmworkers, Mostly Undocumented, Become ‘Essential’ During Pandemic

SpikeTalon comments on Apr 5, 2020:

Some would say they are taking jobs away from Americans...

WilyRickWiles replies on Apr 5, 2020:

If they're looking for an opportunity to "reclaim" those jobs, no time like the present!

Anyone else make the same observation?

WilyRickWiles comments on Apr 4, 2020:

While there are a lot of people of color endangering their health for the greater good by delivering packages, working at grocery stores, and working in hospitals, some striking with support from socialists, I have not seen any Proud Boys or Blue Lives Matter setting up temporary hospitals or ...

WilyRickWiles replies on Apr 4, 2020:

@SpikeTalon Do a Google search for mutual aid and you'll find plenty of "antifa" and "BLM" doing what you "observed" them not doing.

Jordan Peterson met with Victor Orban last year. Yesterday Orban was made dictator of Hungary.

Clammypollack comments on Apr 1, 2020:

This likely means that everyone who has met with Peterson will become a dictator. This is horrible, considering all of people who went to his talks!

WilyRickWiles replies on Apr 3, 2020:

@Clammypollack Well Jordan isn't meeting with them at the very least.

David Begnaud on Twitter: "After hearing the White House say critical supplies are going to ...

Boardwine comments on Apr 3, 2020:

That is an incorrect statement. My knowledge of these matters is NOT anecdotal. The feds are BUYING from commercial distributors as well as factory direct in addition to 3rd parties and anywhere else they can find supply. HHS has the lead supported by the entirety of the DoD. The whole of the ...

WilyRickWiles replies on Apr 3, 2020:

https://twitter.com/DavidBegnaud/status/1245841458323771393

Wow this looks steep! I think it's the SJWs / libs to blame with their open border obsessions.

WilyRickWiles comments on Apr 2, 2020:

Also not great.

WilyRickWiles replies on Apr 3, 2020:

@TimTuolomne For socialists, Comcast and AT&T sure have a funny way of showing it.

Some good news!!! ".

Xtra comments on Apr 2, 2020:

Is everything okay?

WilyRickWiles replies on Apr 2, 2020:

Feel better, @bastion!

Jordan Peterson met with Victor Orban last year. Yesterday Orban was made dictator of Hungary.

Clammypollack comments on Apr 1, 2020:

This likely means that everyone who has met with Peterson will become a dictator. This is horrible, considering all of people who went to his talks!

WilyRickWiles replies on Apr 1, 2020:

No, just the right-wing authoritarians.

Critiquing the Intellectual Dark Web: Michael Brooks’ “Against the Web” | Merion West

Hanno comments on Mar 31, 2020:

Again it is hilarious how he blames Peterson and Harris creates strawmen and attacks them without dealing with real progressive viewpoints... And then he goes and creates strawmen about Harris and Peterson and attacks them without dealing with their actual viewpoints. And right their in a ...

WilyRickWiles replies on Mar 31, 2020:

@Hanno "I cannot judge the book." Please stop then.

Critiquing the Intellectual Dark Web: Michael Brooks’ “Against the Web” | Merion West

Hanno comments on Mar 31, 2020:

Again it is hilarious how he blames Peterson and Harris creates strawmen and attacks them without dealing with real progressive viewpoints... And then he goes and creates strawmen about Harris and Peterson and attacks them without dealing with their actual viewpoints. And right their in a ...

WilyRickWiles replies on Mar 31, 2020:

@Hanno Again, how do you know that without reading them in context, in the book? Besides the fact that you are biased by having read what you consider similar books about religion and politics.

Critiquing the Intellectual Dark Web: Michael Brooks’ “Against the Web” | Merion West

Hanno comments on Mar 31, 2020:

Again it is hilarious how he blames Peterson and Harris creates strawmen and attacks them without dealing with real progressive viewpoints... And then he goes and creates strawmen about Harris and Peterson and attacks them without dealing with their actual viewpoints. And right their in a ...

WilyRickWiles replies on Mar 31, 2020:

@Hanno You were referring to quotations from the book.

Jordan Peterson met with Victor Orban last year. Yesterday Orban was made dictator of Hungary.

Hanno comments on Mar 31, 2020:

Why do you hate Peterson so much?

WilyRickWiles replies on Mar 31, 2020:

@Hanno I have no obligation to be so "fair and balanced" in the articles I share about Peterson.

Critiquing the Intellectual Dark Web: Michael Brooks’ “Against the Web” | Merion West

Hanno comments on Mar 31, 2020:

Again it is hilarious how he blames Peterson and Harris creates strawmen and attacks them without dealing with real progressive viewpoints... And then he goes and creates strawmen about Harris and Peterson and attacks them without dealing with their actual viewpoints. And right their in a ...

WilyRickWiles replies on Mar 31, 2020:

@Hanno Have you read the book where those arguments are made? Surely if he provides examples, they are not strawmen.

Jordan Peterson met with Victor Orban last year. Yesterday Orban was made dictator of Hungary.

Hanno comments on Mar 31, 2020:

Why do you hate Peterson so much?

WilyRickWiles replies on Mar 31, 2020:

Disagreement is not the same as hate.

Critiquing the Intellectual Dark Web: Michael Brooks’ “Against the Web” | Merion West

Hanno comments on Mar 31, 2020:

Again it is hilarious how he blames Peterson and Harris creates strawmen and attacks them without dealing with real progressive viewpoints... And then he goes and creates strawmen about Harris and Peterson and attacks them without dealing with their actual viewpoints. And right their in a ...

WilyRickWiles replies on Mar 31, 2020:

Name the strawmen.

Trump has shown us he will not be the answer to our problems in their country, and especially our ...

WilyRickWiles comments on Mar 31, 2020:

If you want third parties to be viable, advocate for ranked choice voting.

WilyRickWiles replies on Mar 31, 2020:

@avslp Do you say that as an advocate for third parties, which was the topic of conversation, or are you speaking generally?

One of Covid-19's silver linings is that it puts the pettiness of the "Social Justice" movement in ...

WilyRickWiles comments on Mar 30, 2020:

You can prepare by being above and putting out of mind the pettiness of others who have equal or more power than you, and by being curious and compassionate when you are challenged by someone with less power than you. EDIT: And if you have some relevant expertise or experience with which to ...

WilyRickWiles replies on Mar 31, 2020:

@debb1eb Did you know that millennials are almost 40?

One of Covid-19's silver linings is that it puts the pettiness of the "Social Justice" movement in ...

johnlondon comments on Mar 30, 2020:

It's only going to go away if we make that a reality.......Every generation there is a new crop of young weakling that idolize the 60's. I've know some of them. This is who becomes a SJW. They are outcasts to middle America because they were not born beautiful and have less access to the 60's ...

WilyRickWiles replies on Mar 31, 2020:

@debb1eb Not much substance to your argument. Smacks of "cultural Marxism."

All the President’s Crackpots | The Nation

Seriousreason comments on Mar 31, 2020:

Anyone, who thinks they can predict future outcomes. Are full of it. Unprecedented world wide shutdown. Is something no one can foresee the outcome of. Day by day. Trump's done a better job than all those full of criticism.. UNPRECEDENTED.. For fucks sake.

WilyRickWiles replies on Mar 31, 2020:

@Jeeper752 The Republican Party and its backers enabled hacks like Epstein. The Democratic Party looked the other way.

The Contrarian Coronavirus Theory That Informed the Trump Administration | The New Yorker

CookieMonster comments on Mar 30, 2020:

Yea I get the "Rightwing and independent" thinktanks trope unless you are using rightwing as a credability marker. this is fake news, let me unfake it for you, my comments in brackets. According to the Washington Post (gossip, also called the wrap up, a way to give smears legitamacy), ...

WilyRickWiles replies on Mar 31, 2020:

@CookieMonster The fallacious circle of libertarian logic: Hayek misapplies science (Darwin) to economics -> Epstein misapplies economics (Hayek) to science (coronavirus spread).

All the President’s Crackpots | The Nation

Seriousreason comments on Mar 31, 2020:

Anyone, who thinks they can predict future outcomes. Are full of it. Unprecedented world wide shutdown. Is something no one can foresee the outcome of. Day by day. Trump's done a better job than all those full of criticism.. UNPRECEDENTED.. For fucks sake.

WilyRickWiles replies on Mar 31, 2020:

My criticism is less about Trump and more about the hacks like Epstein who have shaped our politics for half a century, the political party and backers who have enabled them, and the other political party that has looked the other way.

C- china O- originated V-virus I-in D- December 19- 2019

Daveclark5 comments on Mar 28, 2020:

Interesting, so when people correct me for calling it the WuFlu because it is “racist” or “xenophobic”, I should point out that they are even more guilty for calling it “Covid19”. Thanks for the help on that.

WilyRickWiles replies on Mar 31, 2020:

@Daveclark5 You might want to lay off making assumptions too.

C- china O- originated V-virus I-in D- December 19- 2019

Daveclark5 comments on Mar 28, 2020:

Interesting, so when people correct me for calling it the WuFlu because it is “racist” or “xenophobic”, I should point out that they are even more guilty for calling it “Covid19”. Thanks for the help on that.

WilyRickWiles replies on Mar 31, 2020:

@Daveclark5 Amazing how easily you lose your composure.

C- china O- originated V-virus I-in D- December 19- 2019

Daveclark5 comments on Mar 28, 2020:

Interesting, so when people correct me for calling it the WuFlu because it is “racist” or “xenophobic”, I should point out that they are even more guilty for calling it “Covid19”. Thanks for the help on that.

WilyRickWiles replies on Mar 31, 2020:

@Daveclark5 China famously banned American beef for years because of our problem with mad cow disease.

If you could censor the lies about Trump, would you?

WilyRickWiles comments on Mar 30, 2020:

What lies?

WilyRickWiles replies on Mar 30, 2020:

@govols I guess that's why Sargon ran for parliament as a Lib Dem...

The Contrarian Coronavirus Theory That Informed the Trump Administration | The New Yorker

CookieMonster comments on Mar 30, 2020:

Yea I get the "Rightwing and independent" thinktanks trope unless you are using rightwing as a credability marker. this is fake news, let me unfake it for you, my comments in brackets. According to the Washington Post (gossip, also called the wrap up, a way to give smears legitamacy), ...

WilyRickWiles replies on Mar 30, 2020:

@CookieMonster https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Epstein

If you could censor the lies about Trump, would you?

WilyRickWiles comments on Mar 30, 2020:

What lies?

WilyRickWiles replies on Mar 30, 2020:

@govols Sargon and Molyneux are pretty good examples.

If you could censor the lies about Trump, would you?

WilyRickWiles comments on Mar 30, 2020:

What lies?

WilyRickWiles replies on Mar 30, 2020:

@Supra_Librix Personally, I'm comfortable with private organizations not being subject to the first amendment. But I think critical platforms like search and social media need to be regulated to ensure competition or some kind of federation of services. And unfortunately, I think the advertising revenue model creates incentives for companies like Google to promote harmful speech and suppress other speech without disclosing their reasons.

If you could censor the lies about Trump, would you?

WilyRickWiles comments on Mar 30, 2020:

What lies?

WilyRickWiles replies on Mar 30, 2020:

@Supra_Librix Then you're arguing to change the law or the Constitution. Or perhaps just appealing to the better angels of Google's nature.

If you could censor the lies about Trump, would you?

WilyRickWiles comments on Mar 30, 2020:

What lies?

WilyRickWiles replies on Mar 30, 2020:

@Supra_Librix Why is this forum called the Intellectual Dark Web community? Because the owner named it that with the intention of providing discussion among fans of a loose collective of new atheists, conservatives, libertarians, and alt right figures dubbed that name by Eric Weinstein, which was later popularized by Bari Weiss. They're a bunch of reactionary sophists funded by right wing billionaires. I'm here to disrupt their safe space.

If you could censor the lies about Trump, would you?

WilyRickWiles comments on Mar 30, 2020:

What lies?

WilyRickWiles replies on Mar 30, 2020:

@Supra_Librix Sounds like a good argument to break Google up or otherwise decentralize its platform, so that there are competing venues for suppressed speech, or nationalize it so that it is subject to the first amendment.

If you could censor the lies about Trump, would you?

WilyRickWiles comments on Mar 30, 2020:

What lies?

WilyRickWiles replies on Mar 30, 2020:

@Supra_Librix By the US government? I can't think of any specific examples right now.

The Contrarian Coronavirus Theory That Informed the Trump Administration | The New Yorker

CookieMonster comments on Mar 30, 2020:

Yea I get the "Rightwing and independent" thinktanks trope unless you are using rightwing as a credability marker. this is fake news, let me unfake it for you, my comments in brackets. According to the Washington Post (gossip, also called the wrap up, a way to give smears legitamacy), ...

WilyRickWiles replies on Mar 30, 2020:

He's one of the most influential people in the history of the conservative and libertarian movements. Can we show the door to his entire body of work, please?

One of Covid-19's silver linings is that it puts the pettiness of the "Social Justice" movement in ...

WilyRickWiles comments on Mar 30, 2020:

You can prepare by being above and putting out of mind the pettiness of others who have equal or more power than you, and by being curious and compassionate when you are challenged by someone with less power than you. EDIT: And if you have some relevant expertise or experience with which to ...

WilyRickWiles replies on Mar 30, 2020:

@govols If there's always going to be systems of power and revolutions against them, maybe we should both get used to it.

One of Covid-19's silver linings is that it puts the pettiness of the "Social Justice" movement in ...

WilyRickWiles comments on Mar 30, 2020:

You can prepare by being above and putting out of mind the pettiness of others who have equal or more power than you, and by being curious and compassionate when you are challenged by someone with less power than you. EDIT: And if you have some relevant expertise or experience with which to ...

WilyRickWiles replies on Mar 30, 2020:

@govols Take your own advice?

Soon America and Canada will be Saudi Arabia in the West

WilyRickWiles comments on Mar 29, 2020:

https://knowyourmeme.com/photos/1216789-inauguration-of-donald-trump

WilyRickWiles replies on Mar 30, 2020:

@Chicago "So never mind that I posted a fake meme with the top clipped off, thinking it was true."

Thomas Piketty Takes On the Ideology of Inequality | Boston Review

TimTuolomne comments on Mar 29, 2020:

This is Marxism in terms a millennial will understand. There is still no distinction between equal opportunity and equal outcomes, which makes his "philosophy" invalid.

WilyRickWiles replies on Mar 29, 2020:

Regarding opportunity: "The mechanics of the alienation of the working class forms a central thread of the book’s second half. Piketty traces the rise of an elite consensus between what he terms the “Brahmin Left” and the “Merchant Right.” By the Merchant Right, he means a financial and business elite that has typically supported the deregulation of markets, the slashing of public budgets, and the disempowerment of organized labor. By the Brahmin Left, he means the highly educated professionals who have come to form the voting base of mainstream left political parties across major developed economies, forsaking the earlier affiliation of the left with the poorly educated working class." "Piketty calls the ideology of the Brahmin Left distinctively “meritocratic,” founded on the idea that higher education determines social worth. Capital and Ideology takes pains to historicize and denaturalize this notion, distinguishing it from the guiding ideology of earlier societies. “In previous inequality regimes,” he writes, “the poor were not blamed for their own poverty, or at any rate not to the same extent.” Instead earlier narratives of social organization “stressed instead the functional complementarity of different social groups.” And the meritocratic emphasis on the importance of education had real effects. Many countries, including the United States, expanded higher education on a seemingly egalitarian basis in the mid-twentieth century. The United States started to do so at more or less the same time that secondary education became universal, in the aftermath of Brown v. Board of Education and the postwar economic boom—the high water mark of the social democratic era as Piketty conceptualizes it. The California Master Plan—like its equivalents in other states, culminating in the federal Higher Education Act of 1965—was enacted as a public good on the theory that higher education was the “next” universal benefit that affluent societies should provide. After the civil rights backlash of the late 1960s and 1970s, however, institutional funding gave way to individual-level financing and the ideology of “human capital.” Because higher education provided individual students with increased lifetime earnings, the reasoning went, it could be financed individually through subsidized loans to pay tuition. That reasoning led to the dramatic expansion of higher education we have seen since the 1970s, and other developed countries have done likewise. But, as Piketty notes, in Britain, France, and the United States, spending on students in the lower reaches of the higher education system significantly trailed the resources available at the richest and most elite institutions—those with admissions policies intended to keep ...

Thomas Piketty Takes On the Ideology of Inequality | Boston Review

TimTuolomne comments on Mar 29, 2020:

This is Marxism in terms a millennial will understand. There is still no distinction between equal opportunity and equal outcomes, which makes his "philosophy" invalid.

WilyRickWiles replies on Mar 29, 2020:

Regarding Marxism: "The word [inequality] makes it into the title ... and it serves as a crucial component of his analysis of transitions between inequality regimes, correcting the tendency to view inequality as a natural fact rather than a policy choice." "Piketty distinguishes his conception from that of another important theorist of ideology, Karl Marx, by emphasizing the “truly autonomous” nature of ideology in relation to economic and social arrangements. The latter, he insists, do not determine a “superstructure” of beliefs and ideas in “almost mechanical fashion.” Instead, Piketty uses the word “in a positive and constructive sense to refer to a set of a priori plausible ideas and discourses describing how society should be structured.” In other words—unlike most economists—Piketty uses the idea not as a pejorative or smear with which to tar his opponents, but as a force that exerts itself on historical outcomes and is thus a worthy object of historical analysis. “Ideas and ideologies count in history,” he states forthrightly. Among other things, “they enable us to imagine new worlds and different types of society. Many paths are possible.” In this respect, Piketty is unusual among practicing historians and completely unique among practicing economists. This analytical framework not only provides the basis for a more convincing historical account. It also serves the larger goal of demystifying the inequality regimes he analyzes."

COVID-19 Nothing but a "Planned"-demic It's a spook that closed down the world in a matter ...

Serg97 comments on Mar 29, 2020:

All good and fine, but can anyone tell me WHY, if this is so contagious, why we have not heard that the "KUNG FLU" is ravaging the homeless on both coast of the USA?????????????

WilyRickWiles replies on Mar 29, 2020:

@BobCoffey1 Last time I checked, liberals (centrists) and conservatives blamed their plight on their individual moral failings and pretend that they don't exist.

COVID-19 Nothing but a "Planned"-demic It's a spook that closed down the world in a matter ...

Serg97 comments on Mar 29, 2020:

All good and fine, but can anyone tell me WHY, if this is so contagious, why we have not heard that the "KUNG FLU" is ravaging the homeless on both coast of the USA?????????????

WilyRickWiles replies on Mar 29, 2020:

Why would you expect news coverage about homeless people?

C- china O- originated V-virus I-in D- December 19- 2019

Daveclark5 comments on Mar 28, 2020:

Interesting, so when people correct me for calling it the WuFlu because it is “racist” or “xenophobic”, I should point out that they are even more guilty for calling it “Covid19”. Thanks for the help on that.

WilyRickWiles replies on Mar 28, 2020:

Just like it totally wouldn't be racist or xenophobic for Chinese people to call Mad Cow Disease American Beef Disease.

As Coronavirus Surges, Crime Declines in Some Cities | The Marshall Project

Biosphere comments on Mar 27, 2020:

Could be because there's a $1200 check coming.

WilyRickWiles replies on Mar 27, 2020:

No.

$2 Trillion Coronavirus Stimulus Nullifies “How Will You Pay for It?” Question

Serg97 comments on Mar 27, 2020:

I thought that the LEFT was all for reducing the population of the world, to save Mother Nature!!!! Now Mother Nature, maybe with a little help form humans, has figured out how to do this!!! And now the Left wants to fight Mother Nature!!!! Can the LEFT stick to any concept, at least, for an hour...

WilyRickWiles replies on Mar 27, 2020:

No those are the ecofascists on the right.

Allegations that Joe Biden sexually attacked a young staffer may be a sign the Democrat ...

WilyRickWiles comments on Mar 27, 2020:

It's not the establishment putting the story out--it's the left.

WilyRickWiles replies on Mar 27, 2020:

@SpikeTalon Right--the article was off base. Though it's probably accurate to say that no one is legitimately enthusiastic about him.

Just listen to this mf who has access to everyones data, along with machine learning technology ...

TimTuolomne comments on Mar 27, 2020:

If you get a chance, there is a story of how he came to dominate the computer world, and it wasn't pretty. With all his resources, I suppose it's no longer out there. This could be a borderline sociopath, who has fulfilled his dreams, with absolutely no need of understanding any of it. God help ...

WilyRickWiles replies on Mar 27, 2020:

His new cause is imposing himself on global economies and governments.

Senator Tom Cotton has a plan to take pharmaceutical manufacturing back from China.

WilyRickWiles comments on Mar 21, 2020:

Another proposal fronm https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/03/19/coronavirus-effect-economy-life-society-analysis-covid-135579?hootPostID=77f7cb8bf8fd5d958969e8cad3cf06af "Government becomes Big Pharma. Steph Sterling is vice president of advocacy and policy at the Roosevelt ...

WilyRickWiles replies on Mar 26, 2020:

@TimTuolomne I guess that's why the public is recapitalizing big business with trillions of dollars, huh?

Billionaires Want People Back to Work. Employees Aren’t So Sure

Hanno comments on Mar 26, 2020:

Yet employees will be the first in the unemployment line when everything false to pieces. This is of course exactly what the socialists want. Millions more that will vote for them to solve a problem they created in the first place. There solution is of course to tax the wealth creators, who ...

WilyRickWiles replies on Mar 26, 2020:

I'm reminded of Zizek's debate when Jordan Peterson. Where are the socialists? Moreover, where are these wealth creators you speak of?

Charlie Kirk on Twitter: "To all college students who have their professors switching to online ...

NathanPumphrey comments on Mar 25, 2020:

My introductory sociology class calls race and gender social constructs and talks about feminism and "queer theory" in the syllabus. I can put that in here if you want.

WilyRickWiles replies on Mar 26, 2020:

No thank you.

Stephanie Kelton: Just Use ‘the Computer’ to Give People More Money

Jeeper752 comments on Mar 22, 2020:

How many idiots does NYT have on staff?

WilyRickWiles replies on Mar 23, 2020:

@Jeeper752 Thought they were rhetorical.

Stephanie Kelton: Just Use ‘the Computer’ to Give People More Money

Jeeper752 comments on Mar 22, 2020:

How many idiots does NYT have on staff?

WilyRickWiles replies on Mar 23, 2020:

@Jeeper752 Sometimes they let public figures like this economist write opinions.

Conventional Capitalism is Dying

dmatic comments on Mar 23, 2020:

Do you even know what Capitlism is, Wily?

WilyRickWiles replies on Mar 23, 2020:

Why do you need to get personal? The title of this post was the headline of this article, taken from the words of an investment bank.

Conventional Capitalism is Dying

timon_phocas comments on Mar 23, 2020:

Howdy @WilyRickWiles, I could not get past the Australian's paywall. I think capitalism is deeply persistent because it's part of human nature. I remember working on my father's orchard. We had particular problems with a weed called Johnson Grass. It spreads with seeds or by root ...

WilyRickWiles replies on Mar 23, 2020:

Perhaps this link will work https://t.co/M5K551ZafN

DAVID ICKE - THE TRUTH BEHIND THE CORONAVIRUS PANDEMIC: COVID-19 LOCKDOWN & THE ECONOMIC CRASH.

johnlondon comments on Mar 22, 2020:

Very Important Video...... Masks are coming off bit by bit....

WilyRickWiles replies on Mar 23, 2020:

Revealing the face of a reptile?

Politics U.

WilyRickWiles comments on Mar 22, 2020:

It was a slush fund for corporations without the needed terms and assistance for workers and small businesses.

WilyRickWiles replies on Mar 22, 2020:

@BobCoffey1 Such a simpleton you are.

Politics U.

WilyRickWiles comments on Mar 22, 2020:

It was a slush fund for corporations without the needed terms and assistance for workers and small businesses.

WilyRickWiles replies on Mar 22, 2020:

@BobCoffey1 "But what about Obama?" Some of us leftists can critique liberals, I know it's shocking. And yes a top-down bailout did get the economy going again despite the fact that the bottom-up policy that I had preferred would have worked just as well and helped more ordinary people.

Coronavirus: The Hammer and the Dance.

TimTuolomne comments on Mar 22, 2020:

My unqualified opinion is that this thing is so fast that we are all exposed and infected. Two months elapsed in China before it hit the radar. If this is right, most of us are asymptomatic, and quarantine may be almost irrelevant. The numbers still are far below the flu. That also means quarantine ...

WilyRickWiles replies on Mar 22, 2020:

Except there is no immunity to it like there is for the flu. Can you explain what happened in Italy and Hubei?

Politics U.

WilyRickWiles comments on Mar 22, 2020:

It was a slush fund for corporations without the needed terms and assistance for workers and small businesses.

WilyRickWiles replies on Mar 22, 2020:

@BobCoffey1 I thought you thought this was all a hoax.

Politics U.

WilyRickWiles comments on Mar 22, 2020:

It was a slush fund for corporations without the needed terms and assistance for workers and small businesses.

WilyRickWiles replies on Mar 22, 2020:

@BobCoffey1 Yeah let's just do what we did in 2008 again but even worse for ordinary people!

Stephanie Kelton: Just Use ‘the Computer’ to Give People More Money

Jeeper752 comments on Mar 22, 2020:

How many idiots does NYT have on staff?

WilyRickWiles replies on Mar 22, 2020:

Opinion writers aren't always staff members.

Donald Trump Called To Resign After Sleeping During Coronavirus Meeting: COVID19 Response A Failure

Boardwine comments on Mar 21, 2020:

The left is shit. You’re a douche. Go fuck yourself.

WilyRickWiles replies on Mar 22, 2020:

@Hanno The website automatically populates it. "Newspeak"--get out of here with your hyperbole. He was microsleeping at minimum--your argument is pedantic.

Donald Trump Called To Resign After Sleeping During Coronavirus Meeting: COVID19 Response A Failure

Boardwine comments on Mar 21, 2020:

The left is shit. You’re a douche. Go fuck yourself.

WilyRickWiles replies on Mar 21, 2020:

@Hanno No, I did not author that text. It's the headline of the article. You're out over your skis again.

She's been preparing for this...

Boardwine comments on Mar 21, 2020:

Do strong women make you nervous?

WilyRickWiles replies on Mar 21, 2020:

You've got to admit it's pretty funny.

Donald Trump Called To Resign After Sleeping During Coronavirus Meeting: COVID19 Response A Failure

Boardwine comments on Mar 21, 2020:

The left is shit. You’re a douche. Go fuck yourself.

WilyRickWiles replies on Mar 21, 2020:

What does the left or me have to do with this? Don't shoot the messenger!

You may have heard that Kelly Loeffler, the appointed Republican senator from Georgia, and her ...

Facci comments on Mar 21, 2020:

It is not illegal for congress.

WilyRickWiles replies on Mar 21, 2020:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/STOCK_Act

Will you fight?

Onajourney comments on Mar 21, 2020:

Oh shut the hell up. I cannot believe we have gone from Russian collusion to deadly virus. Wake up citizens, you are being played.

WilyRickWiles replies on Mar 21, 2020:

"Total hoax!"

IF YOU CAN’T GIVE IT TO EVERYONE, NO ONE GETS IT.

WilyRickWiles comments on Mar 20, 2020:

Which cities are crumbling?

WilyRickWiles replies on Mar 21, 2020:

@Tomberlin48 Maybe we should let the original poster respond about what he means by "crumbling" before this conversation gets more off track.

IF YOU CAN’T GIVE IT TO EVERYONE, NO ONE GETS IT.

WilyRickWiles comments on Mar 20, 2020:

Which cities are crumbling?

WilyRickWiles replies on Mar 20, 2020:

@johnlondon Are they really crumbling though? Cities are getting more prosperous as rural and former manufacturing hubs decline, especially with decreased immigration.

This guy managed to experience and put together the story of the modern reactionary movement.

WilyRickWiles comments on Mar 20, 2020:

At least he can admit that he's a reactionary.

WilyRickWiles replies on Mar 20, 2020:

@govols I'm not. I stand for what they react against.

Initial unemployment claims expected to rise above 2 million.

Hanno comments on Mar 20, 2020:

This is of course all Trumps fault. Right?

WilyRickWiles replies on Mar 20, 2020:

@Hanno Someone has to balance out this fan club.

Thanks to capitalism, grocery shelves keep getting restocked during emergencies- ...

WilyRickWiles comments on Mar 19, 2020:

Lol. I love how capitalism is never at fault for it's failures. Shortages that actually require temporary central planning to solve: "a taste of socialism."

WilyRickWiles replies on Mar 20, 2020:

@BobCoffey1 Did you not see my message above? "I only bought what I needed, thank you very much. The McMansionites on the other hand..."

Spending In The World As We Know It - YouTube

Jeeper752 comments on Mar 20, 2020:

An imaginative and well done advertisement for Bernie, though that wasn't revealed till the end. That makes it self-contradictory. Spending all the time and effort to produce this video which spends nearly its entirety decrying fiat currency and profligate government in support of a candidate ...

WilyRickWiles replies on Mar 20, 2020:

@Jeeper752 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_Monetary_Theory

Where is Trump's Roadmap for COVID19?

DesireNoDesires comments on Mar 20, 2020:

you do realize you are socializing in the comment section of this post...right?

WilyRickWiles replies on Mar 20, 2020:

Let's hope the virus can't travel over the tubes!

Spending In The World As We Know It - YouTube

Jeeper752 comments on Mar 20, 2020:

An imaginative and well done advertisement for Bernie, though that wasn't revealed till the end. That makes it self-contradictory. Spending all the time and effort to produce this video which spends nearly its entirety decrying fiat currency and profligate government in support of a candidate ...

WilyRickWiles replies on Mar 20, 2020:

It's actually pro-MMT.

Let's not do what this article proposes.

Jeeper752 comments on Mar 20, 2020:

What amazes me is the degree of panic than has been built up over this virus that less dangerous than many diseases already dealt with. This is NOT the Black Death or Measles. The article proposes sweeping structural changes to society to deal a transitory illness. The original poster adds ...

WilyRickWiles replies on Mar 20, 2020:

Think about how many hospital beds your hospital has. Now think about how quickly they will be filled by the 10% of COVID19 cases that are severe. That effects everyone who needs health care--not just those with the virus. It's happening in NYC already.

Initial unemployment claims expected to rise above 2 million.

purdyday comments on Mar 20, 2020:

Got a tingle up your leg Ricky?

WilyRickWiles replies on Mar 20, 2020:

No. Just here to convey reality, because someone has got to do it.

COVID-19: NYC should brace for impact and shut down now

TimTuolomne comments on Mar 20, 2020:

Anyone else seeing a computer generated projection and not data??

WilyRickWiles replies on Mar 20, 2020:

Psst...it's in the article.

Initial unemployment claims expected to rise above 2 million.

Hanno comments on Mar 20, 2020:

This is of course all Trumps fault. Right?

WilyRickWiles replies on Mar 20, 2020:

There is only so much we can do to prevent diseases from spreading. The novel coronavirus presented a particular challenge, and as chance would have it human missteps made it worse at many steps along the way. There were missteps by China, missteps by the federal government, and yes, missteps by Trump. Is it all his fault? No.

Initial unemployment claims expected to rise above 2 million.

TimTuolomne comments on Mar 20, 2020:

The current unemployment is around 1.26 million people for various reasons. 3/4 of a million is a reasonable number to expect to also be temporarily unemployed until things return to normal.

WilyRickWiles replies on Mar 20, 2020:

@TimTuolomne Neither do I. Just saying that a single metric increasing 8x into the millions (and setting records) is highly significant.

Initial unemployment claims expected to rise above 2 million.

TimTuolomne comments on Mar 20, 2020:

The current unemployment is around 1.26 million people for various reasons. 3/4 of a million is a reasonable number to expect to also be temporarily unemployed until things return to normal.

WilyRickWiles replies on Mar 20, 2020:

Specifically, according to Goldman, initial unemployment insurance claims will rise from 281,000 to 2,250,000.

Where is Trump's Roadmap for COVID19?

Rick-A comments on Mar 19, 2020:

POTUS has no idea that you even exist, and frankly posting your diatribe on the IDW is simply an indication to the rest of us of how delusional and removed from reality you are. Your making an even bigger fool of yourself than you usually manage to accomplish.

WilyRickWiles replies on Mar 20, 2020:

@Hanno I've long stopped expecting arguments of substance from you. I am looking for an actual roadmap, by the way. Some of us argue in good faith.

Where is Trump's Roadmap for COVID19?

Serg97 comments on Mar 19, 2020:

I just heard that all of California is on lock down!! As of 5 hours ago, 19 people in California have died from corona virus!!! The population of California is just short of 40,000,000!! The death rate is all the way up to (.)0000475% of the population!!! How many died in traffic accidents this ...

WilyRickWiles replies on Mar 20, 2020:

@Serg97 I know my hospital only has a few hundred, and that's in a big city. For suburban hospitals it's around a hundred something, and probably less for rural.

Where is Trump's Roadmap for COVID19?

Facci comments on Mar 19, 2020:

Google the daily updates and press conferences. It is a good place to start. Everything you say must start, has been underway for days and is common knowledge. We may not get past this until everyone has been exposed and many people die, but that is not the fault of government. It is merely ...

WilyRickWiles replies on Mar 20, 2020:

@Hanno He does not have to predict the future exactly, but he needs to make goals, projections, and contingency plans based on the current available information.

Where is Trump's Roadmap for COVID19?

Serg97 comments on Mar 19, 2020:

I just heard that all of California is on lock down!! As of 5 hours ago, 19 people in California have died from corona virus!!! The population of California is just short of 40,000,000!! The death rate is all the way up to (.)0000475% of the population!!! How many died in traffic accidents this ...

WilyRickWiles replies on Mar 19, 2020:

@Serg97 You know many many more people get severe cases and are hospitalized than die, right? And that affects everyone in the medical system--not just people with COVID19. Do you know how many hospital beds are at your hospital?

Where is Trump's Roadmap for COVID19?

Rick-A comments on Mar 19, 2020:

POTUS has no idea that you even exist, and frankly posting your diatribe on the IDW is simply an indication to the rest of us of how delusional and removed from reality you are. Your making an even bigger fool of yourself than you usually manage to accomplish.

WilyRickWiles replies on Mar 19, 2020:

Do you have an argument with the substance, sir?

Where is Trump's Roadmap for COVID19?

Facci comments on Mar 19, 2020:

Google the daily updates and press conferences. It is a good place to start. Everything you say must start, has been underway for days and is common knowledge. We may not get past this until everyone has been exposed and many people die, but that is not the fault of government. It is merely ...

WilyRickWiles replies on Mar 19, 2020:

@BobCoffey1 Oh I won't. There's an income cap.

Where is Trump's Roadmap for COVID19?

Serg97 comments on Mar 19, 2020:

I just heard that all of California is on lock down!! As of 5 hours ago, 19 people in California have died from corona virus!!! The population of California is just short of 40,000,000!! The death rate is all the way up to (.)0000475% of the population!!! How many died in traffic accidents this ...

WilyRickWiles replies on Mar 19, 2020:

What I want to know is how much spare capacity is in the hospitals from night to night.

Where is Trump's Roadmap for COVID19?

Facci comments on Mar 19, 2020:

Google the daily updates and press conferences. It is a good place to start. Everything you say must start, has been underway for days and is common knowledge. We may not get past this until everyone has been exposed and many people die, but that is not the fault of government. It is merely ...

WilyRickWiles replies on Mar 19, 2020:

Yes, such efforts are underway, but the President has not announced a roadmap. We don't know how those efforts fit into a larger plan. We don't know whether to expect to shelter in place for two weeks, two months, a year, or longer. And that makes it very difficult to make decisions about what to do with our lives and our resources.

Thanks to capitalism, grocery shelves keep getting restocked during emergencies- ...

WilyRickWiles comments on Mar 19, 2020:

Lol. I love how capitalism is never at fault for it's failures. Shortages that actually require temporary central planning to solve: "a taste of socialism."

WilyRickWiles replies on Mar 19, 2020:

@SpikeTalon My point is that only the federal government has the resources and the authority to authorize and coordinate a response on the scale needed, missteps aside.

Spending In The World As We Know It - YouTube

Serg97 comments on Mar 19, 2020:

And it was all started by a DEMOCRATIC president took us off the gold standard and devalued the dollar by half!!! When we had the gold standard the government could only print money when they had the gold to back it!! Now the dollar is backed by a promise, nothing else, and you know how well the ...

WilyRickWiles replies on Mar 19, 2020:

We can't go back.

Thanks to capitalism, grocery shelves keep getting restocked during emergencies- ...

WilyRickWiles comments on Mar 19, 2020:

Lol. I love how capitalism is never at fault for it's failures. Shortages that actually require temporary central planning to solve: "a taste of socialism."

WilyRickWiles replies on Mar 19, 2020:

@SpikeTalon It always amazes me how the right is willing to dump entire social insurance programs that provide a public good because of marginal and anecdotal waste. But then waste and abuse by corporations is totally fine! No, private organizations don't and didn't have the means to respond to this.

Thanks to capitalism, grocery shelves keep getting restocked during emergencies- ...

WilyRickWiles comments on Mar 19, 2020:

Lol. I love how capitalism is never at fault for it's failures. Shortages that actually require temporary central planning to solve: "a taste of socialism."

WilyRickWiles replies on Mar 19, 2020:

@SpikeTalon Funny how capitalism is so vulnerable to shocks. And while it may not be rational to buy 20 rolls of toilet paper, some stocking up is rational in response to a crisis where authorities have been slow to respond, information gathering is delayed, and the emerging data and policies suggest that the economy may be shut down for more than a year.

Thanks to capitalism, grocery shelves keep getting restocked during emergencies- ...

WilyRickWiles comments on Mar 19, 2020:

Lol. I love how capitalism is never at fault for it's failures. Shortages that actually require temporary central planning to solve: "a taste of socialism."

WilyRickWiles replies on Mar 19, 2020:

@BobCoffey1 I only bought what I needed, thank you very much. The McMansionites on the other hand...

Thanks to capitalism, grocery shelves keep getting restocked during emergencies- ...

WilyRickWiles comments on Mar 19, 2020:

Lol. I love how capitalism is never at fault for it's failures. Shortages that actually require temporary central planning to solve: "a taste of socialism."

WilyRickWiles replies on Mar 19, 2020:

@SpikeTalon I hate to break it to you, but the shortages in American grocery stores right now have nothing to do with Cuba or socialism.

Senate Intel chair unloaded stocks in mid-February before coronavirus rocked markets yet continued ...

TimTuolomne comments on Mar 19, 2020:

Dr Li Wenliang's warning that managed to leak to the West was 30 December, before he was arrested. Anyone well enough informed would have been smart to unload their holdings that may have been affected immediately on such news.

WilyRickWiles replies on Mar 19, 2020:

@TimTuolomne Surely you meant something when you made the distinction.

Senate Intel chair unloaded stocks in mid-February before coronavirus rocked markets yet continued ...

TimTuolomne comments on Mar 19, 2020:

Dr Li Wenliang's warning that managed to leak to the West was 30 December, before he was arrested. Anyone well enough informed would have been smart to unload their holdings that may have been affected immediately on such news.

WilyRickWiles replies on Mar 19, 2020:

@TimTuolomne They are two different countries, sir.

Senate Intel chair unloaded stocks in mid-February before coronavirus rocked markets yet continued ...

TimTuolomne comments on Mar 19, 2020:

Dr Li Wenliang's warning that managed to leak to the West was 30 December, before he was arrested. Anyone well enough informed would have been smart to unload their holdings that may have been affected immediately on such news.

WilyRickWiles replies on Mar 19, 2020:

@TimTuolomne And you said "China holdings" before editing.

Senate Intel chair unloaded stocks in mid-February before coronavirus rocked markets yet continued ...

TimTuolomne comments on Mar 19, 2020:

Dr Li Wenliang's warning that managed to leak to the West was 30 December, before he was arrested. Anyone well enough informed would have been smart to unload their holdings that may have been affected immediately on such news.

WilyRickWiles replies on Mar 19, 2020:

It's American holdings that he sold.

Trump's answer when asked why he calls it the Chinese virus: ' because it comes from China'.

WilyRickWiles comments on Mar 18, 2020:

Do you think we should punish China because it's the source of the virus, like Tom Cotton suggests?

WilyRickWiles replies on Mar 19, 2020:

@Hanno Let it go.

Trump's answer when asked why he calls it the Chinese virus: ' because it comes from China'.

WilyRickWiles comments on Mar 18, 2020:

Do you think we should punish China because it's the source of the virus, like Tom Cotton suggests?

WilyRickWiles replies on Mar 18, 2020:

@Edgework Wow, that would be rich.

Trump's answer when asked why he calls it the Chinese virus: ' because it comes from China'.

WilyRickWiles comments on Mar 18, 2020:

Do you think we should punish China because it's the source of the virus, like Tom Cotton suggests?

WilyRickWiles replies on Mar 18, 2020:

@Hanno Sanders has nothing to do with this, but if you're going to follow me from thread to thread calling me out for supposedly misrepresenting another Trump quote, I'm going to need you to produce a quote of Sanders "blaming white males for other people's failures."

Trump's answer when asked why he calls it the Chinese virus: ' because it comes from China'.

WilyRickWiles comments on Mar 18, 2020:

Do you think we should punish China because it's the source of the virus, like Tom Cotton suggests?

WilyRickWiles replies on Mar 18, 2020:

@SpikeTalon Do you see how using the language "Chinese virus" might stir up such anti-Chinese sentiment, though? I think it's irresponsible of him and I wouldn't be surprised if it was intentional.