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Nazis identified at the white power putsch [propublica.org]
ZuzecaSape comments on Jan 9, 2021:
Sure are a lot of Nazis with Spanish names these days.
WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 9, 2021:
Like Franco (a fascist to be precise)?
Nazis identified at the white power putsch [propublica.org]
w0tn0t comments on Jan 9, 2021:
You missed this #ANTIFA #BLM scum! Utah Man with a History of Organizing Violent Antifa, BLM Protests, Was Inside the Capitol. A young man named John Sullivan was there. He's from Utah and the founder of "Insurgence USA," which is a group dedicated to "racial justice and police reform." ...
WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 9, 2021:
🐑 = you
Democrats are made up of this group of people.
WilyRickWiles comments on Jan 9, 2021:
Amazing that you're just back at the same idiotic narrative after the failed white supremacist coup.
WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 9, 2021:
@Tom81 It's really not hard to not storm Congress with Nazis.
Democrats are made up of this group of people.
WilyRickWiles comments on Jan 9, 2021:
Amazing that you're just back at the same idiotic narrative after the failed white supremacist coup.
WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 9, 2021:
@Serg97 He said nothing as usual. Might as well be a bot.
Friday Night Massacre: Marxist Democrats Kill ALL social media of hundreds of prominent ...
WilyRickWiles comments on Jan 9, 2021:
Comes with the territory of being a Nazi. Suck it up.
WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 9, 2021:
@DeplorableToo
Friday Night Massacre: Marxist Democrats Kill ALL social media of hundreds of prominent ...
WilyRickWiles comments on Jan 9, 2021:
Comes with the territory of being a Nazi. Suck it up.
WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 9, 2021:
@DeplorableToo And up is down!
Democrats are made up of this group of people.
WilyRickWiles comments on Jan 9, 2021:
Amazing that you're just back at the same idiotic narrative after the failed white supremacist coup.
WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 9, 2021:
@Tom81 Did you not see what happened on Wednesday? Quite a few well-known self-identifying Nazis there. Of course symbolism and party affiliation aren't the extent of white supremacy.
Under what time and circumstance is the use of violence warranted?
WilyRickWiles comments on Jan 8, 2021:
Police riots are always wrong.
WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 9, 2021:
@SpikeTalon Both parties support police unions. The "center-left" to the far right support "law and order."
well well there we wily blm broke in
WilyRickWiles comments on Jan 8, 2021:
This game is getting tiring
WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 8, 2021:
@farmerguy56 I can found?
Under what time and circumstance is the use of violence warranted?
WilyRickWiles comments on Jan 8, 2021:
Police riots are always wrong.
WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 8, 2021:
@Naomi It has been very difficult to do any real reform at the city level, even under a federal and state mandate. The business and real estate lobbies strongly resist any counterbalance to the police. And at the end of the day, even the Democratic Party favors "law and order." Until racism and sexism have been vanquished in society, that order will be racist, sexist, and favor the political right. And police policy tasks them with controlling any gathering of people in public that is counter to those traditional hierarchies. Hence why police are twice as likely to break up a leftist protest. https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-polices-tepid-response-to-the-capitol-breach-wasnt-an-aberration
Under what time and circumstance is the use of violence warranted?
WilyRickWiles comments on Jan 8, 2021:
Police riots are always wrong.
WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 8, 2021:
@Naomi Those unions have really racist histories, too. In Chicago, Black officers used to have their own union. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afro-American_Patrolmen%27s_League
Under what time and circumstance is the use of violence warranted?
WilyRickWiles comments on Jan 8, 2021:
Police riots are always wrong.
WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 8, 2021:
@Naomi The police unions are definitely part of the problem. They also have de jure and de facto legal privileges. And they are backed up by the business and real estate lobbies of big cities.
I guess it's not rioting when nativist white men do it because they alone are patriotic citizens who...
RobD1 comments on Jan 7, 2021:
i guess its not rioting if its Blm or anitifa in portland and they firebomb a federal building and try to force entry for 100 days straight
WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 8, 2021:
@RobD1 Lol, I wish Kamala said that.
Unfortunately
AdrianRainbow comments on Jan 8, 2021:
Why are you surprised, all this 'progressive' BS was bound to garner a reaction, hopefully, the left wing fascists, and right wing fascists, will wipe each other out.
WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 8, 2021:
@AdrianRainbow Taylor Swift and y'all reactionaries!
This group is supposed to be anti-socialist! Better check out the people on SLUG.
Rick-A comments on Jan 7, 2021:
We know they now control the “machines” with the help of McConman, Romney Commie and Barrless and so it’s going to be a brutal effort to recover. The Republicans are fucked!
WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 8, 2021:
@farmerguy56 Governor. He's a big Trump guy now! Trump pardoned him!
Under what time and circumstance is the use of violence warranted?
WilyRickWiles comments on Jan 8, 2021:
In the case of the failed coup, they were fighting to preserve white supremacy and patriarchy. I am sure they truly feel that those systems are just and that civil rights are injustice, but that is objectively false.
WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 8, 2021:
@Geofrank There was a trend of decreasing unemployment that began under the Obama administration and continued to record lows, including for Black people, under Trump, before skyrocketing upward this year. Even at its lowest, the Black unemployment rate was double the white unemployment rate. That's an example of white supremacy. But it still has no direct connection to the failed white supremacist coup that happened a couple days ago.
Under what time and circumstance is the use of violence warranted?
WilyRickWiles comments on Jan 8, 2021:
Police riots are always wrong.
WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 8, 2021:
@REN777 The former.
Unfortunately
AdrianRainbow comments on Jan 8, 2021:
Why are you surprised, all this 'progressive' BS was bound to garner a reaction, hopefully, the left wing fascists, and right wing fascists, will wipe each other out.
WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 8, 2021:
"Look what you made me do"
Trump talking the responsible path to recovery and restoring sanity. [foxnews.com]
WilyRickWiles comments on Jan 7, 2021:
Today is the day that Donald Trump became President.
WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:
It's a bit, sadly.
“Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been ...
WilyRickWiles comments on Jan 7, 2021:
One of my favorite comrades.
WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:
@Rick-A And yet you keep engaging them!
Is this what an antifa infiltrator looks like?
Tom81 comments on Jan 7, 2021:
And is this what life under the Harris administration will look like?
WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:
Maybe ask this guy.
“Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been ...
WilyRickWiles comments on Jan 7, 2021:
One of my favorite comrades.
WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:
@Tom81 I'll take that as a yes.
Is this what an antifa infiltrator looks like?
1patriot comments on Jan 7, 2021:
this is your friend's son inlaw dressed up as a patriot but i am sure you knew that already Nancy Pelosi son inlaw
WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:
@1patriot No, he stood momentarily with the son in law while the son in law was reporting. https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-afs:Content:9889126158
“Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been ...
WilyRickWiles comments on Jan 7, 2021:
One of my favorite comrades.
WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:
@Tom81 Quit the ad hominems and straw men already. If you have a particular point of contention with an argument I've actually made, bring it. Or are you just constantly triggered by my avatar?
“Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been ...
WilyRickWiles comments on Jan 7, 2021:
One of my favorite comrades.
WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:
@Tom81 If only communism were that far advanced!
Is this what an antifa infiltrator looks like?
1patriot comments on Jan 7, 2021:
this is your friend's son inlaw dressed up as a patriot but i am sure you knew that already Nancy Pelosi son inlaw
WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:
@1patriot As JacksonNought shared earlier: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election-2020/jake-angeli-qanon-shaman-stormed-capitol-b1784091.html
Is this what an antifa infiltrator looks like?
1patriot comments on Jan 7, 2021:
this is your friend's son inlaw dressed up as a patriot but i am sure you knew that already Nancy Pelosi son inlaw
WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:
@1patriot He stood with a reporter, yes.
Is this what an antifa infiltrator looks like?
1patriot comments on Jan 7, 2021:
this is your friend's son inlaw dressed up as a patriot but i am sure you knew that already Nancy Pelosi son inlaw
WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:
Nope. He's a Q guy.
MAGA mob including Klansman who posed with Kelly Loeffler surrounds GA capitol in pursuit of GA ...
DrHiebert comments on Jan 7, 2021:
Left-wing media wouldn't acknowledge the summer riots, looting and burning and when they did, they referred to it all as "mostly peaceful". The right stands up against a stolen, crooked election, and the left is losing their shorts. The left shoots and kills an unarmed girl and you can barely ...
WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:
@wolfhnd True, it is "aspirational fascism." It's not real fascism if you haven't united the capitalist elites.
MAGA mob including Klansman who posed with Kelly Loeffler surrounds GA capitol in pursuit of GA ...
DrHiebert comments on Jan 7, 2021:
Left-wing media wouldn't acknowledge the summer riots, looting and burning and when they did, they referred to it all as "mostly peaceful". The right stands up against a stolen, crooked election, and the left is losing their shorts. The left shoots and kills an unarmed girl and you can barely ...
WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:
It's this simple. Rebelling for justice is good. Rebelling for fascism is bad. Also ACAB.
MAGA mob including Klansman who posed with Kelly Loeffler surrounds GA capitol in pursuit of GA ...
1patriot comments on Jan 7, 2021:
must be your friends
WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:
Not a MAGA chud. Nor a supporter of Kelly Loeffler. Nor a Republican of any sort. Nor am I trying to "stop the steal."
Did you join the pro-Trump rally at the Capitol yesterday? If you decided not to, why not?
Naomi comments on Jan 7, 2021:
It's peculiar that while three Australians are honest enough to say that they would've attended the rally, I get no response from any Trump supporter in America (well, apart from one person in a different post). Why is that then? Any idea @WilyRickWiles, @Bastion, @N0DD? Do you think they're ...
WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:
I think they're waiting for a narrative to form that will allow them to support the coup attempt without openly associating themselves with the known Nazis who were involved. You can see some people already trying to pin some of the violence on supposed antifascist agitators. It is embarrassing because it justifies the "SJW" narratives that people around here are always railing against.
The communists at The Economist have some thoughts. /s
w0tn0t comments on Jan 7, 2021:
Utah Man With a History of Organizing Violent Antifa, BLM Protests, Was Inside the Capitol https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2021/01/07/utah-man-with-a-history-of-organizing-blm-protests-was-inside-the-capitol-n2582766
WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:
See below (and more here https://forward.com/news/461612/a-guide-to-the-extremists-and-hate-groups-that-invaded-the-capitol/ )
This group is supposed to be anti-socialist! Better check out the people on SLUG.
pbuck0145 comments on Jan 7, 2021:
Cancel culture is a leftist tactic, which users of this site need to oppose.
WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:
It's a McCarthyist tactic.
This group is supposed to be anti-socialist! Better check out the people on SLUG.
Rick-A comments on Jan 7, 2021:
We know they now control the “machines” with the help of McConman, Romney Commie and Barrless and so it’s going to be a brutal effort to recover. The Republicans are fucked!
WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:
@farmerguy56 Yeah, that's why our Mayor worked for the Republican Party in private practice. And our previous two mayors privatized everything in sight.
The election's been certified.
WilyRickWiles comments on Jan 7, 2021:
You really showed them, ya boomers!
WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:
@FrankZeleniuk Good luck with that pipe dream of capitalism in one country, btw. It's never been tried.
The election's been certified.
WilyRickWiles comments on Jan 7, 2021:
You really showed them, ya boomers!
WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:
@FrankZeleniuk I'm a critic of capitalism/neoliberalism. You and everyone else here have conflated capitalism with every ideology under the sun that isn't white supremacist capitalism in one country. I'm actually one of the few people around here who actually knows what's going on.
The election's been certified.
WilyRickWiles comments on Jan 7, 2021:
You really showed them, ya boomers!
WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:
@FrankZeleniuk Blowback is a bitch!
STOMP OUT COMMUNISM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WilyRickWiles comments on Jan 7, 2021:
Bash the fash!
WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:
@farmerguy56 No, I'm staying far away from superspreading Nazis.
Now what?
Edgework comments on Jan 6, 2021:
It was the Senate, actually. Do you really believe everything you hear on TV? After all this, do you believe anything you hear on TV? Your questions are useful to provoke discussion, but I’m dismayed by the way you reflexively accept the left’s framing of the topic, and their language. ...
WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:
@SpikeTalon 🙈 🙉 🙊
STOMP OUT COMMUNISM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WilyRickWiles comments on Jan 7, 2021:
Bash the fash!
WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:
@farmerguy56 You don't know what communism is!
I guess it's not rioting when nativist white men do it because they alone are patriotic citizens who...
AdrianRainbow comments on Jan 7, 2021:
No, it wasn't, it was a mostly peaceful demonstration that was false flagged by Antifa.
WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:
@AdrianRainbow There's a reason there aren't many conservative comedians.
I guess it's not rioting when nativist white men do it because they alone are patriotic citizens who...
wolfhnd comments on Jan 7, 2021:
Have you ever made any contribution to society? Creating strawmen is not a contribution. Where we are at now was predictable in the 60s. What kind of children did we expect the narcissistic and ultimately nihilistic 60s generation to produce? The Jack Dorsey's and Mark Zuckerberg's are ...
WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:
@wolfhnd You're a friend of Matthew Heimbach.
I guess it's not rioting when nativist white men do it because they alone are patriotic citizens who...
wolfhnd comments on Jan 7, 2021:
Have you ever made any contribution to society? Creating strawmen is not a contribution. Where we are at now was predictable in the 60s. What kind of children did we expect the narcissistic and ultimately nihilistic 60s generation to produce? The Jack Dorsey's and Mark Zuckerberg's are ...
WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:
@wolfhnd And you're a Nazi apologist at best.
I guess it's not rioting when nativist white men do it because they alone are patriotic citizens who...
wolfhnd comments on Jan 7, 2021:
Have you ever made any contribution to society? Creating strawmen is not a contribution. Where we are at now was predictable in the 60s. What kind of children did we expect the narcissistic and ultimately nihilistic 60s generation to produce? The Jack Dorsey's and Mark Zuckerberg's are ...
WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:
@wolfhnd @AdrianRainbow I answer 🤡 with 🤡
I guess it's not rioting when nativist white men do it because they alone are patriotic citizens who...
AdrianRainbow comments on Jan 7, 2021:
No, it wasn't, it was a mostly peaceful demonstration that was false flagged by Antifa.
WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:
Matthew Heimbach is an antifascist in deep cover, huh.
This group is supposed to be anti-socialist! Better check out the people on SLUG.
Rick-A comments on Jan 7, 2021:
We know they now control the “machines” with the help of McConman, Romney Commie and Barrless and so it’s going to be a brutal effort to recover. The Republicans are fucked!
WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:
@farmerguy56 https://youtu.be/zEKYQ4GOqmk
I guess it's not rioting when nativist white men do it because they alone are patriotic citizens who...
wolfhnd comments on Jan 7, 2021:
Have you ever made any contribution to society? Creating strawmen is not a contribution. Where we are at now was predictable in the 60s. What kind of children did we expect the narcissistic and ultimately nihilistic 60s generation to produce? The Jack Dorsey's and Mark Zuckerberg's are ...
WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:
Also, if you answer what you think is a straw man with a straw man, don't expect to get a thoughtful response in return.
I guess it's not rioting when nativist white men do it because they alone are patriotic citizens who...
wolfhnd comments on Jan 7, 2021:
Have you ever made any contribution to society? Creating strawmen is not a contribution. Where we are at now was predictable in the 60s. What kind of children did we expect the narcissistic and ultimately nihilistic 60s generation to produce? The Jack Dorsey's and Mark Zuckerberg's are ...
WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:
@wolfhnd You're brainwashed or drank too much of your own Kool-Aid. The whole lot of you.
I guess it's not rioting when nativist white men do it because they alone are patriotic citizens who...
wolfhnd comments on Jan 7, 2021:
Have you ever made any contribution to society? Creating strawmen is not a contribution. Where we are at now was predictable in the 60s. What kind of children did we expect the narcissistic and ultimately nihilistic 60s generation to produce? The Jack Dorsey's and Mark Zuckerberg's are ...
WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:
Wake up dude, the world is leaving you behind. Father Coughlin is long gone.
I guess it's not rioting when nativist white men do it because they alone are patriotic citizens who...
RobD1 comments on Jan 7, 2021:
i guess its not rioting if its Blm or anitifa in portland and they firebomb a federal building and try to force entry for 100 days straight
WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:
@1patriot It will be a cold day in hell before I ally with Nazi scum like Matthew Heimbach.
I guess it's not rioting when nativist white men do it because they alone are patriotic citizens who...
RobD1 comments on Jan 7, 2021:
i guess its not rioting if its Blm or anitifa in portland and they firebomb a federal building and try to force entry for 100 days straight
WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:
It isn't? You see, I can be objective, but I'm going to guess that you're going to conflate that with every leftist protest and with every leftist. Moreover, you don't see that white supremacy is not morally equivalent to racial justice, for example.
Ashli Babbit - we must remember her and her name, and most importantly, what she believed in! As I ...
WilyRickWiles comments on Jan 7, 2021:
This wasn't a riot? https://twitter.com/WontPassDaBoof/status/1346960000376303619
WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:
@Genghis Seen this? https://twitter.com/PhilipinDC/status/1347028917685800961?s=09
I guess the South rose again. Cue someone telling me this is a Democrat...
timon_phocas comments on Jan 6, 2021:
Just like Jeff Davis, Pierre Beauregard and Nathan Bedford Forrest, staunch Republicans all!!
WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:
@parsifal I didn't erase anything. I'm arguing that parties are coalitions and their ideological factions change over time. You're arguing that they are static over 100+ years.
Ashli Babbit - we must remember her and her name, and most importantly, what she believed in! As I ...
WilyRickWiles comments on Jan 7, 2021:
This wasn't a riot? https://twitter.com/WontPassDaBoof/status/1346960000376303619
WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:
@Genghis Not sure why you think this was tamer than most of the BLM protests over the summer unless you have a really selective memory or are referring to the police rioting.
Ashli Babbit - we must remember her and her name, and most importantly, what she believed in! As I ...
WilyRickWiles comments on Jan 7, 2021:
This wasn't a riot? https://twitter.com/WontPassDaBoof/status/1346960000376303619
WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:
@Genghis Though I do agree that use of force during protests and riots that target property should be heavily restricted. Tough that they picked the US Capitol as their target and weren't clear about their intentions. Also there's the fact that known Nazi brawlers like Matthew Heimbach were among them. And in general they seemed to be aspiring fascist militants.
Ashli Babbit - we must remember her and her name, and most importantly, what she believed in! As I ...
WilyRickWiles comments on Jan 7, 2021:
This wasn't a riot? https://twitter.com/WontPassDaBoof/status/1346960000376303619
WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:
@Genghis They also ransacked offices.
Now what?
Edgework comments on Jan 6, 2021:
It was the Senate, actually. Do you really believe everything you hear on TV? After all this, do you believe anything you hear on TV? Your questions are useful to provoke discussion, but I’m dismayed by the way you reflexively accept the left’s framing of the topic, and their language. ...
WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:
One of the alleged antifa guys in the photos being passed around is fucking Matthew Heimbach. Might have to go back to Trump season 1 to remember who he is. Hint: he's a Nazi.
Ashli Babbit - we must remember her and her name, and most importantly, what she believed in! As I ...
WilyRickWiles comments on Jan 7, 2021:
This wasn't a riot? https://twitter.com/WontPassDaBoof/status/1346960000376303619
WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:
@Genghis This wasn't the entry to the building. This was where the woman was shot. She was in the very front.
Ashli Babbit - we must remember her and her name, and most importantly, what she believed in! As I ...
WilyRickWiles comments on Jan 7, 2021:
This wasn't a riot? https://twitter.com/WontPassDaBoof/status/1346960000376303619
WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:
@Genghis So the breaking of windows and doors in that video is not a riot? Just making sure. Though I might agree that riot isn't the most useful word in any context.
Now what?
Edgework comments on Jan 6, 2021:
It was the Senate, actually. Do you really believe everything you hear on TV? After all this, do you believe anything you hear on TV? Your questions are useful to provoke discussion, but I’m dismayed by the way you reflexively accept the left’s framing of the topic, and their language. ...
WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:
@SpikeTalon Neoliberals always want to blame "agitators" or "infiltrators" for leftist unrest. Never want to own up to the fact that they might be complicit in an injustice that has inspired people to rebel.
4 Dead, 52 Arrested, 2 Pipe Bombs Located Amid Rightist Attack on Congress [thehill.com]
rway comments on Jan 7, 2021:
So... *Mostly Peaceful* then, actually quite boring by the Left's newspeak standards.
WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:
The arrests at least! Certainly not the rest.
Now what?
JacksonNought comments on Jan 6, 2021:
Again, when does the shooting start? https://twitter.com/BGOnTheScene/status/1346904244008456193
WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:
@MichelleD Another way to think of this sort of thing. You think ethnic studies are a Marxist conspiracy, no? Did you know they were a demand by the Civil Rights Movement in response to a university system that Black and brown people were barred from participating in, and that studies in the social sciences were important for public sector work as we briefly began to confront the racism of Jim Crow and redlining? Then a year after the work began, Nixon shut it down. And we've had neoliberal disinvestment, privatization, and overpolicing since then. The Democrats support equality of opportunity as long as you're rich and upper middle class and the Republicans support the unadulterated interests of the rich. Their opposing interests and the different groups of people they need to coopt to hold power have to do with the industries in which they work. When you're closer to capital and financialization, you're more free to follow your ideals and try to make a better world. You're also not tied to any one national market because of how capitalism works and you have an incentive to get along with different people. But if you're into mining, you're kind of tied to one market, foreign policy, and labor dynamic. Meanwhile, if you're an ordinary person, your work makes you as atomized. You can either strive to be a professional (the neoliberal option), find a patron who will reward or punish you for your deference (the conservative option), or liberate yourself through collective power (the leftist option).
Now what?
Tom81 comments on Jan 6, 2021:
https://www.newswars.com/eyewitness-tell-alex-jones-antifa-provocateurs-may-have-led-charge-to-storm-us-capitol/
WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:
Dude, you don't think Alex Jones was in on it?
Now what?
Edgework comments on Jan 6, 2021:
It was the Senate, actually. Do you really believe everything you hear on TV? After all this, do you believe anything you hear on TV? Your questions are useful to provoke discussion, but I’m dismayed by the way you reflexively accept the left’s framing of the topic, and their language. ...
WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:
@SpikeTalon I don't accuse Proud Boys of infiltrating leftist protests in any meaningful way. Only thing I can think of is that guy in Minneapolis who was breaking windows and got caught right away.
Now what?
JacksonNought comments on Jan 6, 2021:
Again, when does the shooting start? https://twitter.com/BGOnTheScene/status/1346904244008456193
WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:
@MichelleD By globalists do you mean neoliberals, e.g. in the financial, technology, pharmaceutical, and entertainment industries, who back the Democrats? Or do you mean the entire capital class, including the energy, defense, property, and supply oligarchs that back the Republicans? Do you really think they have aligned interests and that they would have the Alex Joneses of the world stage this attack on Congress, but not with any intention of succeeding? Solely to divide people based on the political differences between someone like Trump and someone like AOC? With Trump, Biden, and the left in on it? Or by globalist do you just mean a Jewish or atheist cosmopolitan who supports social justice? You do know capitalism is a global system, in which the US has hegemony, no? No Marxism or Jewish people needed to explain it. Never mind that there is nothing wrong with internationalism, atheism, or being Jewish, and there is no "blood and soil" birthright to North America for white people.
Now what?
JacksonNought comments on Jan 6, 2021:
Again, when does the shooting start? https://twitter.com/BGOnTheScene/status/1346904244008456193
WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:
@MichelleD Are you going to plead ignorance? Sounds like the Know Nothings! https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Know_Nothing About which Abe Lincoln had some words: https://harpers.org/2008/02/lincolns-whig-credo/
Now what?
JacksonNought comments on Jan 6, 2021:
Again, when does the shooting start? https://twitter.com/BGOnTheScene/status/1346904244008456193
WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:
@MichelleD How do you explain what happened today? What motivated those people? Any parallels in history?
Now what?
JacksonNought comments on Jan 6, 2021:
Again, when does the shooting start? https://twitter.com/BGOnTheScene/status/1346904244008456193
WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:
@MichelleD I'll concede that they've duped a lot of ordinary people. I understand that perspective from having lived it. I don't need to engage it intellectually. Many, though, are little tyrants who want to lord over their wives, employees, neighbors, and marginalized people. Fuck those people.
Now what?
JacksonNought comments on Jan 6, 2021:
Again, when does the shooting start? https://twitter.com/BGOnTheScene/status/1346904244008456193
WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:
@MichelleD But tell me more about intellectual Trumpism.
Now what?
JacksonNought comments on Jan 6, 2021:
Again, when does the shooting start? https://twitter.com/BGOnTheScene/status/1346904244008456193
WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:
@MichelleD Read some history. At least if you identify with white supremacy, you will be able to do it consciously and affirmatively.
Now what?
JacksonNought comments on Jan 6, 2021:
Again, when does the shooting start? https://twitter.com/BGOnTheScene/status/1346904244008456193
WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:
@MichelleD Hell, I was a Republican.
Now what?
JacksonNought comments on Jan 6, 2021:
Again, when does the shooting start? https://twitter.com/BGOnTheScene/status/1346904244008456193
WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:
@MichelleD And yes, neoliberals are agents of systemic racism as well, but not in the same sort of "hood off" manner. They're not the terrorists we saw today.
Now what?
JacksonNought comments on Jan 6, 2021:
Again, when does the shooting start? https://twitter.com/BGOnTheScene/status/1346904244008456193
WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:
@MichelleD As I commented here: https://idw.community/article/106639/can-only-white-people-be-racist?aid=191933
Now what?
JacksonNought comments on Jan 6, 2021:
Again, when does the shooting start? https://twitter.com/BGOnTheScene/status/1346904244008456193
WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:
@MichelleD I'm not about demonizing individuals over personal racism. The issue is systemic racism--i.e. a racist power dynamic. Like you said, people with power use racism to divide ordinary people. That is what the Republican Party is the manifestation of. You had alluded to things like racism being a Marxist hoax. The violence at the Capitol today and how Republicans and law enforcement enabled it is an example of systemic racism.
Now what?
Edgework comments on Jan 6, 2021:
It was the Senate, actually. Do you really believe everything you hear on TV? After all this, do you believe anything you hear on TV? Your questions are useful to provoke discussion, but I’m dismayed by the way you reflexively accept the left’s framing of the topic, and their language. ...
WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:
@SpikeTalon It was clearly well-organized by the MAGA chuds. They had all sorts of supplies and roles organized ahead of time. And the famous IDW-affiliated celebrities were there with them, cheering them on.
Now what?
JacksonNought comments on Jan 6, 2021:
Again, when does the shooting start? https://twitter.com/BGOnTheScene/status/1346904244008456193
WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:
@MichelleD And as I said recently in another conversation: "Always be a critical media consumer. E.g., NYT is biased in favor of the foreign policy establishment, The Atlantic is propaganda for neoliberal elites (not unlike The Economist), Politico is access journalism (e.g. they may get scoops but may be beholden to their sources), teleSUR is biased in favor of the Venezuelan and Cuban governments, Al Jazeera is biased in favor of the Qatari government, Vox represents the center-left establishment, Jacobin leans toward class-reductionist Marxism, and The Marshall Project advocates for criminal justice reform on behalf of its funders. My media diet: The New York Times, The Washington Post, The Intercept, Financial Times, The Guardian, AP, Reuters, AFP, NPR, Axios, Politico, BBC News, teleSUR, Al Jazeera, The New Republic, The American Prospect, Vox, Boston Review, The New Yorker, ProPublica, BuzzFeed News, Democracy Now!, New York Magazine, The Nation, Dissent, Jacobin, The Baffler, In These Times, Current Affairs, The Atlantic, Sludge, The Marshall Project, FiveThirtyEight, CIR, PRI, Type Investigations, ICIJ, The Center for Public Integrity, Chicago Sun-Times, WBEZ, Chicago Reader, Block Club Chicago, The Chicago Reporter, South Side Weekly, Crain's Chicago, Injustice Watch"
Now what?
JacksonNought comments on Jan 6, 2021:
Again, when does the shooting start? https://twitter.com/BGOnTheScene/status/1346904244008456193
WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:
@Bay0Wulf is just a hater.
Now what?
JacksonNought comments on Jan 6, 2021:
Again, when does the shooting start? https://twitter.com/BGOnTheScene/status/1346904244008456193
WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:
@MichelleD I did... the KKK thought civil rights for Black people was a Marxist conspiracy. Positions change over time when there is positive social change from a starting point of injustice. Not to say that Democrats are right on everything. They are neoliberals who are opportunists on social issues and don't care about ordinary people. Meanwhile the Republicans are open white supremacists. That's why I'm a leftist--like the original Republicans. https://reason.com/2018/10/14/dont-blame-karl-marx-for-cultu/
I guess the South rose again. Cue someone telling me this is a Democrat...
wolfhnd comments on Jan 6, 2021:
Well I suppose it isn't any worse than displaying the hammer and sickle, an ideology that was responsible for millions of murders. There is a certain lack of sophistication in people that would do either.
WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:
@wolfhnd Is it?
Now what?
MichelleD comments on Jan 6, 2021:
What's the chance the storming of Capitol hill was staged by deep state?
WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 6, 2021:
@Rick-A Those are your guys!
Now what?
MichelleD comments on Jan 6, 2021:
What's the chance the storming of Capitol hill was staged by deep state?
WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 6, 2021:
Now what?
JacksonNought comments on Jan 6, 2021:
Again, when does the shooting start? https://twitter.com/BGOnTheScene/status/1346904244008456193
WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 6, 2021:
@MichelleD White supremacism and patriarchy aren't a Marxist hoax. But if it's not clear after today it never will be. There's more than two sides--every source of information will have some bias. One has to think critically. Best to start with mainstream assumptions and then test them as you learn more from trusted sources.
Meanwhile , Dames Against Feminism recently tweeted .
WilyRickWiles comments on Jan 6, 2021:
This imaginary Karen can go to hell!
WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 6, 2021:
@Zilladog I know what you like. Licking boot!
I guess the South rose again. Cue someone telling me this is a Democrat...
timon_phocas comments on Jan 6, 2021:
Just like Jeff Davis, Pierre Beauregard and Nathan Bedford Forrest, staunch Republicans all!!
WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 6, 2021:
@timon_phocas Jackson is Trump's favorite President btw.
I guess the South rose again. Cue someone telling me this is a Democrat...
timon_phocas comments on Jan 6, 2021:
Just like Jeff Davis, Pierre Beauregard and Nathan Bedford Forrest, staunch Republicans all!!
WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 6, 2021:
@timon_phocas Maybe it would help you to read those NYTimes articles above from '64. Do you remember Goldwater and his alignment on civil rights?
I guess the South rose again. Cue someone telling me this is a Democrat...
timon_phocas comments on Jan 6, 2021:
Just like Jeff Davis, Pierre Beauregard and Nathan Bedford Forrest, staunch Republicans all!!
WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 6, 2021:
@timon_phocas Do you identify as a Rockefeller Republican?
I guess the South rose again. Cue someone telling me this is a Democrat...
timon_phocas comments on Jan 6, 2021:
Just like Jeff Davis, Pierre Beauregard and Nathan Bedford Forrest, staunch Republicans all!!
WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 6, 2021:
@timon_phocas Ah a Republican from my own state. Like I used to be! Tell me, what part of the country was that and what was the breakdown by region and political party (let alone ideology) of the votes?
I guess the South rose again. Cue someone telling me this is a Democrat...
wolfhnd comments on Jan 6, 2021:
Well I suppose it isn't any worse than displaying the hammer and sickle, an ideology that was responsible for millions of murders. There is a certain lack of sophistication in people that would do either.
WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 6, 2021:
Or the American flag!
I NEVER REALIZED THERE WERE SO MANY COMMUNISTS ON SLUG.
Rick-A comments on Jan 6, 2021:
They all collect social security and depend on Biden to keep them in jobs. Small people who hide in basements and work for the city catch dogs.
WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 6, 2021:
@Rick-A You might want to get that Wily Derangement Syndrome checked out!
I NEVER REALIZED THERE WERE SO MANY COMMUNISTS ON SLUG.
Rick-A comments on Jan 6, 2021:
They all collect social security and depend on Biden to keep them in jobs. Small people who hide in basements and work for the city catch dogs.
WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 6, 2021:
I'm an entrepreneur!
I NEVER REALIZED THERE WERE SO MANY COMMUNISTS ON SLUG.
eschatologyguy comments on Jan 6, 2021:
I can give you a list. In fact two are among your post's recent visitors.
WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 6, 2021:
OK, McCarthy.
I guess the South rose again. Cue someone telling me this is a Democrat...
timon_phocas comments on Jan 6, 2021:
Just like Jeff Davis, Pierre Beauregard and Nathan Bedford Forrest, staunch Republicans all!!
WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 6, 2021:
@timon_phocas I'm not a Democrat, btw.
I guess the South rose again. Cue someone telling me this is a Democrat...
timon_phocas comments on Jan 6, 2021:
Just like Jeff Davis, Pierre Beauregard and Nathan Bedford Forrest, staunch Republicans all!!
WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 6, 2021:
@timon_phocas Tell me more about how Trump and/or the Republicans today would support radical Reconstruction or even the Civil Rights Movement.
I guess the South rose again. Cue someone telling me this is a Democrat...
timon_phocas comments on Jan 6, 2021:
Just like Jeff Davis, Pierre Beauregard and Nathan Bedford Forrest, staunch Republicans all!!
WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 6, 2021:
@timon_phocas Did you read the things I posted? Can you see how it challenges your narrative? Can you see that you're also arguing with a straw man?
Now what?
MichelleD comments on Jan 6, 2021:
What's the chance the storming of Capitol hill was staged by deep state?
WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 6, 2021:
Now what?
saramarylop3z comments on Jan 6, 2021:
Well, I for one am not suprised. I was briefly suprised they broke in, but not all that suprised they tried. MSM and politicians are absolutely reacting exactly as expected. "White supremacists", "domestic terrorists", have been so over used, they have no real impact anymore. Riots, and ...
WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 6, 2021:
"Look what you made me do."
Now what?
timon_phocas comments on Jan 6, 2021:
Howdy @Admin, The Dems and their media arm will construe this as insurrection and try to invoke the Insurrection Act to punish any conservative gathering.
WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 6, 2021:
Nah they'll do nothing or use it to repress more leftists. The elites still support "law and order" and the status quo that they protect is white supremacist and patriarchal. Then a future unified elite will use this type of coup opportunistically.
I NEVER REALIZED THERE WERE SO MANY COMMUNISTS ON SLUG.
WilyRickWiles comments on Jan 6, 2021:
And my red flag goes up!
WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 6, 2021:
@MichelleD Solidarity Forever!
I guess the South rose again. Cue someone telling me this is a Democrat...
timon_phocas comments on Jan 6, 2021:
Just like Jeff Davis, Pierre Beauregard and Nathan Bedford Forrest, staunch Republicans all!!
WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 6, 2021:
@parsifal I mean I'd love for your narrative to be coherent. We need to finish Reconstruction!

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