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FaithJones comments on Aug 18, 2019:

The US has been positive for the world in many areas (thanks). If I had to name a couple of negative No. 1s though, the US tortured more prisoners than any other country for several years during the Bush Jr and Obama administrations. The US is also the only country ever to have been convicted of ...

dmatic replies on Aug 18, 2019:

@FoundationSage But, some of those women were anti-American? Kind of embarrassing...:) imho

I don't need to believe every word this man says to know that he is telling the truth.

chuckpo comments on Aug 9, 2019:

I haven't watched the video yet, but I picked up on something you said introducing it. ** I don't believe in the either/or version of the truth at all, I believe in the Bothness of it. And even if I am right, that doesn't make someone else wrong.** What you're describing is postmodernism, ...

dmatic replies on Aug 17, 2019:

@TommyApplecore Thanks for the explanation of why you don't like THAT question, Tommy, and for allowing me to 'poke' you a bit with my further inquiry. The 'turditions' of men need elimination, often, for us to think clearly about the path that lies ahead, in my opinion. Many of the things our forefathers believed and taught were wrong....that's all. Not that they were bad people, but they, too, had been mistaught. So, I wasn't trying to get you to recite anything you don't believe as true. Not that our forefathers had everything wrong, either. Not saying that they had everything wrong. But, what our description of "reality" is, is important to me, in this conversation. There is a reality....That is what we all want to discover, correct? We don't just wish to live a life of imagination do we? Of course, maybe one thinks there is no reality, that it is all a figment of our imaginations? So, either Jesus was real, is real, and will be real....or He is not. Either Jesus exsisted or He didn't. I know....that so dual in nature... If He didn't exist, He didn't speak, He didn't teach He didn't raise a few people from their deaths, whatever that may be...so, we don't need to be confused by thinking that anything people say he said is real...it was only their imaginations...so who cares what they imagined? If He did exist and people living while he did gave us a record of what He said and did, then we can deal with what they said He said. Biosphere seems to think Jesus was deluded, and the people that gave their accounts of his actions and words were also devious, so he, apparently, doesn't have to deal with what He is reported to have said. Easy peasy...just dismiss it as gobbledygook! besides, what Jesus is reported to have said is so uncomfortable! And so many that claim a belief in Him and His words have been SOOOO hypocritical...so it must all be a lie....pass me another beer! Let's eat, drink, and be merry, for tomorrow we die! Easy.....or deluded....until one comes face to face with Him! Now what? The satanist who was sure it was all a lie...until he died in a wreck....and the demons came to collect his soul...and it scared the hell out of him...and he repented in death! And the mercy of God prevailed and saved him even in his death....and he came back to life in the 'natural'......so very very relieved. He had understood he had made the wrong choice, in life.....while he was actually dead! God graciously gave him another chance...and he is a Christian today. Try to tell him that Jesus is not real! Gotta go/

I don't need to believe every word this man says to know that he is telling the truth.

chuckpo comments on Aug 9, 2019:

I haven't watched the video yet, but I picked up on something you said introducing it. ** I don't believe in the either/or version of the truth at all, I believe in the Bothness of it. And even if I am right, that doesn't make someone else wrong.** What you're describing is postmodernism, ...

dmatic replies on Aug 17, 2019:

@chuckpo Beautifully written, chuckpo! First, my comment about intellectualism was not meant to be pejorative, rather, I meant it as a compliment. The way I view things is, in general, that there seem to be three 'ways' to approach our existence and trying to find answers: one is experientially, the second is through the intellect, and the third is by faith...or, the gift of simply accepting the idea that there is so very much a person doesn't know.....yet. The third way seems to be the most peaceful....but I'm not saying it is the best....though it might be. The second way may be the most difficult...though that doesn't make it a bad choice....but trying to understand everything is very difficult...just ask Jordan! (That's why I, too, love the guy!) I appreciate his chosen path! By experiencing everything, one does achieve a certain level of understanding, though it does seem to be rather impossible to experience everything.... I loved this line in your piece, chuckpo: "Most of what we think we know, we only believe, but we call it knowing. That arrogance puts your unsinkable boat on the bottom of the ocean. Assumption of truth is NOT knowing. "

How Christianity was created.

dmatic comments on Aug 16, 2019:

Wow. I take it you've been wounded yourself? Jesus, Himself, said that many would come in His name but would deceive many. Don't fall for their deceptions.

dmatic replies on Aug 16, 2019:

@FoundationSage Apalled...in a sense. But, He knew that from the beginning. He is not surprised by it....obviously. Are you a follower of the true Jesus? Or, should I say: Are you a true follower of Jesus?

I don't need to believe every word this man says to know that he is telling the truth.

chuckpo comments on Aug 9, 2019:

I haven't watched the video yet, but I picked up on something you said introducing it. ** I don't believe in the either/or version of the truth at all, I believe in the Bothness of it. And even if I am right, that doesn't make someone else wrong.** What you're describing is postmodernism, ...

dmatic replies on Aug 16, 2019:

@Biosphere, @TommyApplecore @chuckpo, Well, Tommy, a very apropos (apt) video, I'm fascinated that he is speaking about the same things we are! Appreciate your thoughts, too, chuckpo, on the video of the Franciscan. He seems like a nice man, but the idea that God is unknowable is wrong, to put it bluntly. God is Love, and, obviously, there is much to know abut Love! His manifestation to us will unfold as He directs...but even He says of the New Covenant...ALL will know Me.....from the least to the greatest! Remarkable promise! Believe it!

I don't need to believe every word this man says to know that he is telling the truth.

chuckpo comments on Aug 9, 2019:

I haven't watched the video yet, but I picked up on something you said introducing it. ** I don't believe in the either/or version of the truth at all, I believe in the Bothness of it. And even if I am right, that doesn't make someone else wrong.** What you're describing is postmodernism, ...

dmatic replies on Aug 16, 2019:

@Biosphere By the way, Bio, what would you bet your "soul" on? :)

I don't need to believe every word this man says to know that he is telling the truth.

chuckpo comments on Aug 9, 2019:

I haven't watched the video yet, but I picked up on something you said introducing it. ** I don't believe in the either/or version of the truth at all, I believe in the Bothness of it. And even if I am right, that doesn't make someone else wrong.** What you're describing is postmodernism, ...

dmatic replies on Aug 16, 2019:

@chuckpo No, you answered the question, in that you didn't "know" if Jesus was raised from the dead. I assumed, initially, that everyone believes Jesus existed. Actually existed in history. The question I asked was if anyone here believed if He was "resurrected" after dying. How can any of us "know" that unless we've seen Him alive? Or, conversely, seen Him dead? You know the old dilemma of trying to prove a negative. Basically, I'm a simple man....maybe too simple...but I'm trying to keep up with you intellectuals. What I do know is that there are a lot of opinions out there about a lot of stuff, and I understand Bio's hesitancy to believe anything that anybody says! Everybody, of course, thinks they are right about everything they think. It's really kinda comical. By the way, I appreciate your humility and honesty. Regarding who Jesus is, or was...we can get to that if we are so led, but, you will find out if we do that I am not 'orthodox or heterodox' whatever they imply. I just want to find out and know the truth about stuff. I do think there is truth out there, by the way, which is what I seek.

So, Greta Thunberg is coming to you, American folks.

dmatic comments on Aug 15, 2019:

Never heard of her, till now.

dmatic replies on Aug 16, 2019:

@AhrimanXV I must be really out of the loop....never heard of them either, but appreciate you trying to bring me up to speed....:)

The Mobius represents the same paradox .

Biosphere comments on Aug 10, 2019:

I have done the following thought experimented many times-- 1) If (in past history) it's true that god spoke personally to only a handful of people and provided them information/facts about the orgin of the universe and our lives as humans, and included instructions about how to live and behave, ...

dmatic replies on Aug 16, 2019:

@Biosphere Thanks. OK, so, may I ask what you think is the "concept of the Bible"? Listen, my friend, I definitely understand a reaction to the many deceptions or false teachings by the many that don't get it. I'm just trying to understand you.. Thanks

I don't need to believe every word this man says to know that he is telling the truth.

chuckpo comments on Aug 9, 2019:

I haven't watched the video yet, but I picked up on something you said introducing it. ** I don't believe in the either/or version of the truth at all, I believe in the Bothness of it. And even if I am right, that doesn't make someone else wrong.** What you're describing is postmodernism, ...

dmatic replies on Aug 16, 2019:

@TommyApplecore You are a much more informed person regarding JP's opinions than I, so I don't know how you mean that JP agrees with you that the question I asked shouldn't be asked? If you care to explain, fine. You say the question brings division? about some "creed"? I'm not a creed guy, so not sure what the problem is. May I ask you if you think division is wrong? When I read the scriptures, I see that Jesus, Himself, said something like: Do not think I came to send peace on earth...but a sword. (of division). So, may I ask, instead, the same question I asked Bio, namely, do you believe Jesus even existed?

I don't need to believe every word this man says to know that he is telling the truth.

chuckpo comments on Aug 9, 2019:

I haven't watched the video yet, but I picked up on something you said introducing it. ** I don't believe in the either/or version of the truth at all, I believe in the Bothness of it. And even if I am right, that doesn't make someone else wrong.** What you're describing is postmodernism, ...

dmatic replies on Aug 16, 2019:

@Biosphere OK, Thanks, Bio. May I ask if you believe that a guy named Jesus even existed? (Joshua, Yahshua, Y'Shua)

I don't need to believe every word this man says to know that he is telling the truth.

chuckpo comments on Aug 9, 2019:

I haven't watched the video yet, but I picked up on something you said introducing it. ** I don't believe in the either/or version of the truth at all, I believe in the Bothness of it. And even if I am right, that doesn't make someone else wrong.** What you're describing is postmodernism, ...

dmatic replies on Aug 16, 2019:

@TommyApplecore @Biosphere @chuckpo Sorry you don't like questions, Tommy. The appearance of my question was not designed to divide between orthodox and heterodox, neither of which I understand the meaning of. The reason I ask it, is that it is fundamental. Fundamental in the sense of us understanding each other. I have a little bit better understanding of each of you, by the way, as I observe how it was handled. Thank you.

So, Greta Thunberg is coming to you, American folks.

dmatic comments on Aug 15, 2019:

Never heard of her, till now.

dmatic replies on Aug 15, 2019:

@Naomi Thanks Naomi!

I don't need to believe every word this man says to know that he is telling the truth.

chuckpo comments on Aug 9, 2019:

I haven't watched the video yet, but I picked up on something you said introducing it. ** I don't believe in the either/or version of the truth at all, I believe in the Bothness of it. And even if I am right, that doesn't make someone else wrong.** What you're describing is postmodernism, ...

dmatic replies on Aug 15, 2019:

@chuckpo My above answer was to your previous post, the one before your second which appeared before I completed mine! Ha> Of course He likes you searching! He enjoys the hide 'n seek game with all His children!

I don't need to believe every word this man says to know that he is telling the truth.

chuckpo comments on Aug 9, 2019:

I haven't watched the video yet, but I picked up on something you said introducing it. ** I don't believe in the either/or version of the truth at all, I believe in the Bothness of it. And even if I am right, that doesn't make someone else wrong.** What you're describing is postmodernism, ...

dmatic replies on Aug 15, 2019:

@chuckpo Sounds logical to me! I'm presently in the midst of reading two books (about half-way through both of them), but have put them down a few days ago because I got too busy....Anyway, the first, The Righteous Mind, is written by a moral psychologist. The second, Why Buddhism Is True, is written by an evolutionary psychologist. Both books seem to presume the "Truth" of evolution...whatever that may mean, with all the unproven theories and hypotheses they assume as truth! It is interesting to me that God, the Intelligent Designer of all that is, has me reading them at the same time. Have you read either?

Memorable Quote: Presidential Candidate, Joe Biden; “We Choose “TRUTH” Over FACTS .

WilyRickWiles comments on Aug 13, 2019:

A little embarrassing (for Biden), but I'll take it over "truthful hyperbole."

dmatic replies on Aug 15, 2019:

@WilyRickWiles Thanks. Is that a little like "wily"?

I don't need to believe every word this man says to know that he is telling the truth.

chuckpo comments on Aug 9, 2019:

I haven't watched the video yet, but I picked up on something you said introducing it. ** I don't believe in the either/or version of the truth at all, I believe in the Bothness of it. And even if I am right, that doesn't make someone else wrong.** What you're describing is postmodernism, ...

dmatic replies on Aug 15, 2019:

@chuckpo Another 'by the way'...belief is an interesting thing, as is knowing, as is hope. I believe God is in control of His-story. I KNOW He is in control. And....I hope He is! If He isn't, we are in very big trouble!

I don't need to believe every word this man says to know that he is telling the truth.

chuckpo comments on Aug 9, 2019:

I haven't watched the video yet, but I picked up on something you said introducing it. ** I don't believe in the either/or version of the truth at all, I believe in the Bothness of it. And even if I am right, that doesn't make someone else wrong.** What you're describing is postmodernism, ...

dmatic replies on Aug 15, 2019:

@chuckpo By the way, I didn't ask the question to make you uncomfortable, but if the question does, that's ok.The good 'ol Apostle Paul said;;;If Jesus didn't rise from the dead, we, of all people, who put our hope in that 'fact' are the most to be pitied!

I don't need to believe every word this man says to know that he is telling the truth.

chuckpo comments on Aug 9, 2019:

I haven't watched the video yet, but I picked up on something you said introducing it. ** I don't believe in the either/or version of the truth at all, I believe in the Bothness of it. And even if I am right, that doesn't make someone else wrong.** What you're describing is postmodernism, ...

dmatic replies on Aug 15, 2019:

@chuckpo Thanks for the honesty! So, let me ask you why you believe in life after death? Do you have any proof of that? Or is it simply a hope, so that the pain of nihilism can be kept at bay?

Memorable Quote: Presidential Candidate, Joe Biden; “We Choose “TRUTH” Over FACTS .

WilyRickWiles comments on Aug 13, 2019:

A little embarrassing (for Biden), but I'll take it over "truthful hyperbole."

dmatic replies on Aug 15, 2019:

Huh?

has anyone explained to the fascist Democrats that evil doers could care less about their background...

jake1956 comments on Aug 15, 2019:

You can't debate someone whose argument is rooted in emotion. Facts and data means nothing to them

dmatic replies on Aug 15, 2019:

Well, you CAN, but you might get emotional...

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ScottforKing comments on Aug 13, 2019:

In other words, if I may quote Ganhi: "Be the change you wish to see in the world."

dmatic replies on Aug 15, 2019:

@ScottforKing Yes. I've a huge stick pile to remove first, from my own backyard!

I don't need to believe every word this man says to know that he is telling the truth.

chuckpo comments on Aug 9, 2019:

I haven't watched the video yet, but I picked up on something you said introducing it. ** I don't believe in the either/or version of the truth at all, I believe in the Bothness of it. And even if I am right, that doesn't make someone else wrong.** What you're describing is postmodernism, ...

dmatic replies on Aug 15, 2019:

@Biosphere @chuckpo @TommyApplecore, Ok, we might as well jump in...Who, here, believes that Jesus died, but rose again...dead for three days, but God raised Him from the dead to life? And He is alive today?

The Mobius represents the same paradox .

Biosphere comments on Aug 10, 2019:

I have done the following thought experimented many times-- 1) If (in past history) it's true that god spoke personally to only a handful of people and provided them information/facts about the orgin of the universe and our lives as humans, and included instructions about how to live and behave, ...

dmatic replies on Aug 15, 2019:

@TommyApplecore, @Biosphere Bio, I agree with your principle, we are all brothers, with the same Father...the Father of spirits. I am very grateful to our Father for sending our brother, Jesus (Yahshua) to help show us the Way, His Father's Way, and for giving us hope that He is able to accomplish His plan, which is mysterious to most. I believe He is reconciling the whole world to Himself, through His Son...that is...ALL of His creation! I do believe "The Bible"...though many versions and translations have been mistaken in their understandings...and, not everything written within it are "God's Words". Some of the recorded owrds are shatan's and some are peoples... I do believe He has given me a love for Truth...and yes, absolute Truth, which I consider a very big blessing! I look forward to getting to know you, too, brother!

The Mobius represents the same paradox .

Biosphere comments on Aug 10, 2019:

I have done the following thought experimented many times-- 1) If (in past history) it's true that god spoke personally to only a handful of people and provided them information/facts about the orgin of the universe and our lives as humans, and included instructions about how to live and behave, ...

dmatic replies on Aug 15, 2019:

@TommyApplecore Thanks, Tommy, I know what you mean about our own opinions of ourselves, sometimes, until we get to the point of thinking of ourselves soberly! But, I find it a bit hard to believe that our Father would say that you are a flake of paint, unless you were so egotistical that that kind of poke was necessary! Ha, it's pretty funny though, isn't it? I remember back in December 1999, or it may have been a bit earlier, when all the hysteria of Y2K was raging, that I asked God what was going to happen...kinda complaining that He hadn't specifically told me...since I had been entertaining the idea that God was teaching me to be prophet...Ha! He answered :It is not for you to know the times and seasons specifically,....then He added: You guys are more worried about your own reputations than you are Mine! I bowed my head in humility, knowing He was exactly right! What He told you about your mission sounds an awful lot like what my wife and I read this morning in 1 Thessalonians...Make it your ambition to live quietly and mind your own business...

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ScottforKing comments on Aug 13, 2019:

In other words, if I may quote Ganhi: "Be the change you wish to see in the world."

dmatic replies on Aug 14, 2019:

Is that kinda like "Removing the log from our own eye first, so that we can see clearly to help remove the speck out of the other's?

The Mobius represents the same paradox .

Biosphere comments on Aug 10, 2019:

I have done the following thought experimented many times-- 1) If (in past history) it's true that god spoke personally to only a handful of people and provided them information/facts about the orgin of the universe and our lives as humans, and included instructions about how to live and behave, ...

dmatic replies on Aug 14, 2019:

@Biosphere, @TommyApplecore Imaginations are imaginations. Are they real? Of course, they are real imaginations. Is reality an imagination? Reality is reality. God, if that's what one wants to call the Creator of this reality, is real, of course, and He must exist within and without the imaginations of His creatures. It has been said that "in Him, we live and move and have our being"...and He is creating us in His image....does that mean in His imagination? Certainly, imagination is real. However, imagination can sometimes seem to get people in a bit of trouble. Sometimes, it also seems imaginations are not real. God, the ultimate reality invites us to seek for Him and He promises to be found by us IF we seek Him with all our heart. He is our Father, so to speak, and the Book says that it is His pleasure to conceal a thing...instead of broadcasting the obvious, He enjoys the "game" of hide and go-seek. He is like a loving Father who enjoys playing hide and go-seek with His children. There seems to be nothing to worry about, however, simply because He has a plan to reveal Himself to all of His creation...every last one...indeed, a glorious future awaits...one that cannot be imagined...

I don't need to believe every word this man says to know that he is telling the truth.

chuckpo comments on Aug 9, 2019:

I haven't watched the video yet, but I picked up on something you said introducing it. ** I don't believe in the either/or version of the truth at all, I believe in the Bothness of it. And even if I am right, that doesn't make someone else wrong.** What you're describing is postmodernism, ...

dmatic replies on Aug 14, 2019:

@Biosphere You're not late, you're right on time! Welcome! {I think I am going to enjoy this conversation, too, chuckpo!}...If I may, Bio, I need to see if I understand your assertion as being a reluctant Nihilist. You wish there were meaning and purpose in life, but you're a little skeptical?...and even a bit afraid of hoping that, indeed, there may be, because you have been disappointed before?

I don't need to believe every word this man says to know that he is telling the truth.

chuckpo comments on Aug 9, 2019:

I haven't watched the video yet, but I picked up on something you said introducing it. ** I don't believe in the either/or version of the truth at all, I believe in the Bothness of it. And even if I am right, that doesn't make someone else wrong.** What you're describing is postmodernism, ...

dmatic replies on Aug 13, 2019:

@TommyApplecore, @chuckpo Thanks, brothers! It was a good day, then about 7:30 the well quit. No water! Raced into town thirty miles away, bought a control box and a pressure switch before the store closed and traded those two out one at a time, but no luck. Probably the submersible pump...boo, but could be a blessing in disguise. Wouldn't want this to happen if the world economy collapses or "the Great Tribulation" starts. Good to go into something like that, if it happens, with a new pump! Anyway, thanks for the responses. Chuckpo, you wrote: "Interesting path to walk alone." I think we are discovering that we are, none of us, walking this thing alone! The voice of the Spirit accompanies us, and guides us...into ALL Truth, too. I didn't mean to give the impression my journey has been 'rough', either. It's just been my journey....exciting, to say the least! I like your attitude, too. Trying to always 'scour' the internal thoughts, examining yourself to see if you are on the right path. Definitely necessary to eliminate "missing the marks" along the way and finding oneself lost! Though even that can lead to discovering things about ourselves and world and its Creator. Yesterday, I allowed myself the pleasure of driving into the big city, to see a couple of my favorite people. One, a remarkable 98 year old neighbor, whose little homestead is now a cornfield, and the other, one of my long-time best friends, who is a fine artist, who has built his own gallery and is the most prolific painter I've ever seen. We had a nice long talk...even mentioned this conversation and the Mobius , which, by the way, he was already familiar with! You've both enriched my life....Thanks!....Carry on!

The Mobius represents the same paradox .

Biosphere comments on Aug 10, 2019:

I have done the following thought experimented many times-- 1) If (in past history) it's true that god spoke personally to only a handful of people and provided them information/facts about the orgin of the universe and our lives as humans, and included instructions about how to live and behave, ...

dmatic replies on Aug 12, 2019:

@Biosphere, @TommyApplecore Now, this is strange....to me. I just read and commented on the previous post by you, Tommy, and now you're talking about knowing and unknowing in this one. Biosphere...check out my comments and the ones from Chuckpo and Tommy on that thread! Deep. God is not imaginary, so let's get that out of the way first. he has certainly, however, given us all imaginations, or the ability to imagine. The Bible declares that He communicates to everyone, I think. Many times through dreams in the night...sometimes through our thoughts consciously, sometimes with a still, small voice...or, even when necessary, a booming one! Gotta go now...but, please, carry on with this...

I don't need to believe every word this man says to know that he is telling the truth.

chuckpo comments on Aug 9, 2019:

I haven't watched the video yet, but I picked up on something you said introducing it. ** I don't believe in the either/or version of the truth at all, I believe in the Bothness of it. And even if I am right, that doesn't make someone else wrong.** What you're describing is postmodernism, ...

dmatic replies on Aug 12, 2019:

@chuckpo, @TommyApplecore I am so glad I 'stumbled' on to this conversation. Love you both! I am definitely not in either of your leagues, and I hesitate to attempt to contribute to such a deep and high topic,...but, now that I have dealt with the hesitation, I will dive in with some personal experience in my past. Today's the anniversary of my birth, they tell me, so, I'm grateful for another year to try to figure all this stuff out! When I was younger, I ran across Hermann Hesse and Sidhartha on a record album, where the story of some wise person concluded it with: "There is a reality, my boys, and nothing can change that. However, truths, that is, opinions of reality, are countless in number, and each is just as true as it is false." The saying has stuck with me all these years, as a sort of guide. Even though, I'm not sure I understand it yet. The second experience I want to relate, was again in my relative youth, and my own experience with drugs and "insane assylums"....another story :)...anyway, I was during that stage of my life on a quest to "know"....an exciting but exhausting endeavor, as you both know. Anyway, after escaping the hospital, and hitchhiking a short way away, it began to rain and i found myself under an overpass, in my hospital gown and slippers, confused as to what to do next, when a voice spoke to me: He said: "Son, I know." That was it. It was the most humble I've ever been! And I was in perfect peace after hearing. I now knew....that He knew. I didn't have to know. A HUGE burden had been lifted..... Thanks guys for sharing. Please continue if led....

Human beings, today, seem to be concerned with their "rights", to the point where they even seem to ...

Biosphere comments on Aug 6, 2019:

It's possible that god(if it exists) takes a "hands off" approach to interacting with living entities. Actually, that is brilliant method to observe how individuals will behave if they are convinced that there are no repercussions for their actions. Even though there is plenty of religious ...

dmatic replies on Aug 12, 2019:

@Biosphere Thanks, you're good being human! I needed the smile this morning. Or should that be a good human being...? Cheers back, as I sip my coffee...and wonder if you're....

Human beings, today, seem to be concerned with their "rights", to the point where they even seem to ...

Biosphere comments on Aug 6, 2019:

It's possible that god(if it exists) takes a "hands off" approach to interacting with living entities. Actually, that is brilliant method to observe how individuals will behave if they are convinced that there are no repercussions for their actions. Even though there is plenty of religious ...

dmatic replies on Aug 11, 2019:

@Biosphere How do I know when to blame it on the beer?

Neil DeGrasse Tyson lambasted for mass shooting perspective Tweet- [thelibertarianrepublic.

dmatic comments on Aug 6, 2019:

Thomas Paine's quote sums it up: “To argue with a man who has renounced the use and authority of reason, and whose philosophy consists in holding humanity in contempt, is like administering medicine to the dead, or endeavoring to convert an atheist by scripture.”

dmatic replies on Aug 9, 2019:

@Seriousreason Exactly! The world is cracking up...

Viewed differently, differently seen.

dmatic comments on Aug 1, 2019:

Thank you. Not sure why you want to get this Jordan Peterson, but, I'll try to respond, though I don't have the time to do so...:) Your first sentence startled me: "God is the creator and we are the masters of our path." This seems to be contradictory. I think I understand that you are trying to...

dmatic replies on Aug 9, 2019:

@7sails Indeed! He has given you that responsibility. Carry on.

I haven’t been on any “social” media for a bit.

pbuck0145 comments on Aug 8, 2019:

Regressive leftism has hijacked the liberal agenda. Classical liberals now have more in common with the GOP than with the Dems.

dmatic replies on Aug 9, 2019:

@Wicked With God, all things are possible. He is our answer! The left not only hates good, they hate God.

Human beings, today, seem to be concerned with their "rights", to the point where they even seem to ...

Biosphere comments on Aug 6, 2019:

It's possible that god(if it exists) takes a "hands off" approach to interacting with living entities. Actually, that is brilliant method to observe how individuals will behave if they are convinced that there are no repercussions for their actions. Even though there is plenty of religious ...

dmatic replies on Aug 9, 2019:

@Biosphere Well, I think you are very well spoken and your writing exceeds your critique, but, may I then ask: "Do you claim to be such a person?"

Human beings, today, seem to be concerned with their "rights", to the point where they even seem to ...

Biosphere comments on Aug 6, 2019:

It's possible that god(if it exists) takes a "hands off" approach to interacting with living entities. Actually, that is brilliant method to observe how individuals will behave if they are convinced that there are no repercussions for their actions. Even though there is plenty of religious ...

dmatic replies on Aug 8, 2019:

@Biosphere If you care to explain, I'd like to know more about a materialistic perspective...Thanks. Sometimes, it may seem that creations of creators are meaningless, unless one sees from the creator's eyes.

Human beings, today, seem to be concerned with their "rights", to the point where they even seem to ...

Biosphere comments on Aug 6, 2019:

It's possible that god(if it exists) takes a "hands off" approach to interacting with living entities. Actually, that is brilliant method to observe how individuals will behave if they are convinced that there are no repercussions for their actions. Even though there is plenty of religious ...

dmatic replies on Aug 7, 2019:

With God, ALL things are possible. God already knows how lowly human beings will act and react. You are right about plenty of 'religious propaganda floating out there. The goal is to find the Truth. The Reality that is. Nihilism, intentional? Of course. But, what is its purpose?

Viewed differently, differently seen.

dmatic comments on Aug 1, 2019:

Thank you. Not sure why you want to get this Jordan Peterson, but, I'll try to respond, though I don't have the time to do so...:) Your first sentence startled me: "God is the creator and we are the masters of our path." This seems to be contradictory. I think I understand that you are trying to...

dmatic replies on Aug 7, 2019:

@7sails He HAS created your will. He is changing you into that which you will be. Trust Him to do so. Phil. 1:6

Neil DeGrasse Tyson lambasted for mass shooting perspective Tweet- [thelibertarianrepublic.

dmatic comments on Aug 6, 2019:

Thomas Paine's quote sums it up: “To argue with a man who has renounced the use and authority of reason, and whose philosophy consists in holding humanity in contempt, is like administering medicine to the dead, or endeavoring to convert an atheist by scripture.”

dmatic replies on Aug 6, 2019:

@Seriousreason Glad to hear it. Truth is truth, no matter the age, or era, in which it was spoken. Strange times in which we live, where nonsense is being taught, and accepted, as truth, by the non-discerning.

Viewed differently, differently seen.

dmatic comments on Aug 1, 2019:

Thank you. Not sure why you want to get this Jordan Peterson, but, I'll try to respond, though I don't have the time to do so...:) Your first sentence startled me: "God is the creator and we are the masters of our path." This seems to be contradictory. I think I understand that you are trying to...

dmatic replies on Aug 6, 2019:

@7sails I put the word free in quotes, because that is where my question lies. What does one mean "free"-will. Free from influence? Free from limitations? I have learned a bit about the truth of the counsel of from scripture, that he who trusts in himself is a fool (Proverbs 28:26), and I have seen evidence that some think they guide themselves and are masters of their own destiny, but they are not aware of God's directing their goings. (Proverbs 20:24) That's all I'm saying. God works within us to will....to choose...His good purpose...so Thank God our wills are not free from His influence!

Proving The Bubble

dmatic comments on Jul 5, 2019:

"We can be certain the burst approaches. We can never be certain when it will occur. It is difficult to tell how much was driven by innovation, but even this can only help the economy catch up to the expanded monetary base." I pulled this from the short article and would like to ask a question ...

dmatic replies on Aug 5, 2019:

@FrankZeleniuk If you didn't say it, that's what I heard. :) They used to publish the "money supply" figures in the paper, but no longer. Anyway, they used to have a category called M1, which included all the supposed currency that was in circulation plus "checkable deposits".... I am with you against the crooked system, by the way! Though I think it will take a collapse and reorganization after the shock!

[youtu.be] Jordan Peterson Rants, Great Summary.

TommyApplecore comments on Aug 5, 2019:

This clip is often described on Youtube as Peterson's finest moment, and I think it is. Unguarded, passionate, and truthful, he seems to conjure an entire 'reason for being' out of thin air and launch it at us as the very real challenge that life actually *is*. It's a miracle alright. And we ...

dmatic replies on Aug 5, 2019:

Brilliant!

I am a libertarian By the way, not the Libertarian Party, I value my liberty and yours.

camerakid61 comments on Aug 4, 2019:

I love a person who speaks their mind!

dmatic replies on Aug 5, 2019:

Good, and I trust, you love those who don't as well!

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FaithJones comments on Aug 1, 2019:

You would probably lose most modern readers at 'God is the creator'. You might think that there is a deity and that's an action it took but this is phrased as an empiric conjoined fact when actually there is no evidence for or against it, just a theory saying what happened since, which all ...

dmatic replies on Aug 5, 2019:

@FaithJones Mature enough? That's an interesting way to put it. And...fatal flaw? I agree that we have all different paths and purposes in the grand scheme of things, and it seems that we have all a "fatal flaw"...in that it appears we all are "mortal".... But, it also appears that death is not the only fate that awaits us. Not believing things wholeheartedly without reliable evidence is a path that is one of the necessary ones. Your path may not be as peaceful as the one who seems to have "faith", whatever you think that path to be, but you are seeking to "know", and that is a very good thing. Reality is, indeed, or can be, a fun-filled adventure. I have faith that you will find the truth...

Viewed differently, differently seen.

dmatic comments on Aug 1, 2019:

Thank you. Not sure why you want to get this Jordan Peterson, but, I'll try to respond, though I don't have the time to do so...:) Your first sentence startled me: "God is the creator and we are the masters of our path." This seems to be contradictory. I think I understand that you are trying to...

dmatic replies on Aug 5, 2019:

@7sails I believe we have been given a will, but am not sure how "free" it is. Still trying to figure that out. May I ask you what you mean by "free" will, before I answer more completely? Thanks

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FaithJones comments on Aug 1, 2019:

You would probably lose most modern readers at 'God is the creator'. You might think that there is a deity and that's an action it took but this is phrased as an empiric conjoined fact when actually there is no evidence for or against it, just a theory saying what happened since, which all ...

dmatic replies on Aug 4, 2019:

@FaithJones I wasn't joking. About names...and their relation to God and God's plan...Have you considered that it was your Creator Who named you? How that happens is interesting to say the least, but, names, no doubt, are interesting, and probably signify more than we know. Faith, by the way, is a great name! Being a critic is not all-bad either. Just sayin...

Viewed differently, differently seen.

FaithJones comments on Aug 1, 2019:

You would probably lose most modern readers at 'God is the creator'. You might think that there is a deity and that's an action it took but this is phrased as an empiric conjoined fact when actually there is no evidence for or against it, just a theory saying what happened since, which all ...

dmatic replies on Aug 4, 2019:

@FaithJones Maybe then you could change your name to LoveJones...no reason to vanish, though.

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dmatic comments on Aug 1, 2019:

Thank you. Not sure why you want to get this Jordan Peterson, but, I'll try to respond, though I don't have the time to do so...:) Your first sentence startled me: "God is the creator and we are the masters of our path." This seems to be contradictory. I think I understand that you are trying to...

dmatic replies on Aug 4, 2019:

@7sails OK then. Thanks

Proving The Bubble

dmatic comments on Jul 5, 2019:

"We can be certain the burst approaches. We can never be certain when it will occur. It is difficult to tell how much was driven by innovation, but even this can only help the economy catch up to the expanded monetary base." I pulled this from the short article and would like to ask a question ...

dmatic replies on Aug 4, 2019:

@FrankZeleniuk Well, I'm glad you're safe and didn't get accosted by any socialists, or fascists masking as anti-fascists! Guess I cannot even imagine a system where everyone just minted their own money....who could trust it?

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FaithJones comments on Aug 1, 2019:

You would probably lose most modern readers at 'God is the creator'. You might think that there is a deity and that's an action it took but this is phrased as an empiric conjoined fact when actually there is no evidence for or against it, just a theory saying what happened since, which all ...

dmatic replies on Aug 2, 2019:

@FaithJones Someday the knowledge of God and His glory will cover the earth like the waters cover the sea.

Viewed differently, differently seen.

dmatic comments on Aug 1, 2019:

Thank you. Not sure why you want to get this Jordan Peterson, but, I'll try to respond, though I don't have the time to do so...:) Your first sentence startled me: "God is the creator and we are the masters of our path." This seems to be contradictory. I think I understand that you are trying to...

dmatic replies on Aug 2, 2019:

@7sails Interesting. My clue to who your god is, comes from the thoughts you express here. So, back to your assertion that you are the master....does that make your god your slave?

You might find this amusing. [spiked-online.com]

dmatic comments on Aug 1, 2019:

I have found Peterson's humility to be refreshing, unlike, for example, this author's contribution.

dmatic replies on Aug 2, 2019:

@Facci Totally agree, Facci!

Proving The Bubble

dmatic comments on Jul 5, 2019:

"We can be certain the burst approaches. We can never be certain when it will occur. It is difficult to tell how much was driven by innovation, but even this can only help the economy catch up to the expanded monetary base." I pulled this from the short article and would like to ask a question ...

dmatic replies on Aug 1, 2019:

@FrankZeleniuk Hi, Frank! I'm busy, but doing well, thank God. How are you? You wrote: "Government controlling the supply or quantity of money makes it less sound." Who do you think should control the supply and quantity of money?

[nytimes.

dgerts comments on Jul 24, 2019:

Most of that debt is owed to Americans in some form: https://www.thebalance.com/who-owns-the-u-s-national-debt-3306124 It's bad but we've been worse: https://www.justfacts.com/nationaldebt.asp And just like now, a lot of that WW2 debt was owed to Americans. Any reasonable guesses on how it ...

dmatic replies on Jul 25, 2019:

dgerts, Good question. I anticipate a complete collapse...and then a restructure where a jubilee will be declared...with another declared fifty years later, until we learn how to avoid debt slavery. From your article: "Public Debt. The public holds the rest of the national debt of $16.1 trillion. Foreign governments and investors hold 30% of it. Individuals, banks, and investors hold 15%. The Federal Reserve holds 12%. Mutual funds hold 9%. State and local governments own 5% The rest is held by pension funds, insurance companies, and Savings Bonds." It's not been that long ago I used to hear that China owned over $5Trillion..why now only a little over a $T? When the government owes all these pension finds, what are they going to do when the debts are called in, so they can fund their pension obligations? Print more? Of course, until people lose faith in the system and it collapses.

Wealth Across Epochs, Part 1

PalmThis comments on Jul 24, 2019:

Is that a "Trick Question"? Washington would be richer in knowledge and we haven't seen Trump's taxes yet. lol

dmatic replies on Jul 25, 2019:

@timon_phocas They both have my respect.

Hegelian Dialectic The Marxist revolution [onafhanklik.com]

dmatic comments on Jul 21, 2019:

I think these Luciferians are being used without them even being aware of it.

dmatic replies on Jul 25, 2019:

@Facci Agreed! And, for a purpose!

so.

purdyday comments on Jul 23, 2019:

Ziva's back!? Oh boy, YaY!

dmatic replies on Jul 25, 2019:

@Wicked I'm blessed to have Dish!

so...did everyone else like the Mueller fiasco?

JobyOneKenobi comments on Jul 24, 2019:

He definitely had his staff write that report.

dmatic replies on Jul 25, 2019:

@JobyOneKenobi Please! Say it ain't so!

God is absolutely amazing! May I ask a stupid question?

VonO comments on Jul 24, 2019:

>>How did God come into 'existence'? Was there ever a "time" when God was not? Does God have a body? A Spiritual body? He didn’t. No. No. No. There’s the quick answers :) Obviously it would take much longer to give longer answers.

dmatic replies on Jul 25, 2019:

So, If God does not have a body....how does He sit on a throne? When the angels appear before Him, what do they see? Spirits, apparently, live in bodies? God lives in us? Thanks, VonO...Just wondering...If you have some thoughts, I would love to read them, but no need to spend too much of your valuable time on them....answers will come soon enough, I suppose....

so.

purdyday comments on Jul 23, 2019:

Ziva's back!? Oh boy, YaY!

dmatic replies on Jul 24, 2019:

When does the new season start?

Hegelian Dialectic The Marxist revolution [onafhanklik.com]

dmatic comments on Jul 21, 2019:

I think these Luciferians are being used without them even being aware of it.

dmatic replies on Jul 24, 2019:

@Facci Did God make wolves?

Hegelian Dialectic The Marxist revolution [onafhanklik.com]

dmatic comments on Jul 21, 2019:

I think these Luciferians are being used without them even being aware of it.

dmatic replies on Jul 23, 2019:

@Facci No, pretty sure we're not on the same page, here...what I am alleging is that the Luciferians think they are plotting the evil they intend, from their own wills and motivations, not realizing that God is using them.

Hegelian Dialectic The Marxist revolution [onafhanklik.com]

dmatic comments on Jul 21, 2019:

I think these Luciferians are being used without them even being aware of it.

dmatic replies on Jul 22, 2019:

@Facci You think they are not being used and they are aware of it?

Maybe the best single article I’ve ever read on the politics if the Israel/Arab divide and how it ...

JimbobNE comments on Jul 21, 2019:

Yes, there is a divide. Democrats support the groups who tried to destroy Israel many times. Republicans support Israel, the only real democracy in the middle east, and feel the gains from the 6 day war by Israel are their rightful gains from a war of Arab agression. Israel has the right to defend ...

dmatic replies on Jul 22, 2019:

@JimbobNE, @Babou I read the article you linked but did not see any reference to the Stern Gang collaborating with the Nazis, unless it didn't register in my brain. But, you are very right about the evil perpetrated preceding the so-called Israeli State's birth.

Maybe the best single article I’ve ever read on the politics if the Israel/Arab divide and how it ...

JimbobNE comments on Jul 21, 2019:

Yes, there is a divide. Democrats support the groups who tried to destroy Israel many times. Republicans support Israel, the only real democracy in the middle east, and feel the gains from the 6 day war by Israel are their rightful gains from a war of Arab agression. Israel has the right to defend ...

dmatic replies on Jul 22, 2019:

@JimbobNE Interesting. Another major war, to be won by whom in your estimation? No solution for the Middle East? That is depressing, too.

Maybe the best single article I’ve ever read on the politics if the Israel/Arab divide and how it ...

Naomi comments on Jul 21, 2019:

Hello. I don't fully understand Israel/Arab divide and the US involvement - it's complicated, but I can't help thinking that Palestinian Christians are conveniently forgotten... Judeo-Christian is a term grouping Christianity and Judaism together. If Christianity and Judaism are supposed to go hand ...

dmatic replies on Jul 21, 2019:

@Babou, @Naomi Everybody is a 'believer' in their own 'religion'. Religion is simply ones way of life, and everyone has a way of life, that they think right in their own eyes. Truth is. Falsity ain't. It is time to love one another.

Maybe the best single article I’ve ever read on the politics if the Israel/Arab divide and how it ...

JimbobNE comments on Jul 21, 2019:

Yes, there is a divide. Democrats support the groups who tried to destroy Israel many times. Republicans support Israel, the only real democracy in the middle east, and feel the gains from the 6 day war by Israel are their rightful gains from a war of Arab agression. Israel has the right to defend ...

dmatic replies on Jul 21, 2019:

@JimbobNE Actually, I was not taking sides. I agree with Naomi in a previous post. It is a very complicated issue. Would be happy to talk about it though. But, I do stand by my statement that nobody has the 'right' to treat others 'wrongly'. Do you disagree?

Maybe the best single article I’ve ever read on the politics if the Israel/Arab divide and how it ...

Naomi comments on Jul 21, 2019:

Hello. I don't fully understand Israel/Arab divide and the US involvement - it's complicated, but I can't help thinking that Palestinian Christians are conveniently forgotten... Judeo-Christian is a term grouping Christianity and Judaism together. If Christianity and Judaism are supposed to go hand ...

dmatic replies on Jul 21, 2019:

@Babou You are free to go ahead and fix it.

Maybe the best single article I’ve ever read on the politics if the Israel/Arab divide and how it ...

Naomi comments on Jul 21, 2019:

Hello. I don't fully understand Israel/Arab divide and the US involvement - it's complicated, but I can't help thinking that Palestinian Christians are conveniently forgotten... Judeo-Christian is a term grouping Christianity and Judaism together. If Christianity and Judaism are supposed to go hand ...

dmatic replies on Jul 21, 2019:

You are so very right, Naomi. On both counts. A complicated issue to be sure, and left out of the 'debate' is the fate of Christians. It may not fully be resolved until the King of the Jews, the Author of the Christian faith, comes back to straighten us all out. Even so, come quickly Lord!

Maybe the best single article I’ve ever read on the politics if the Israel/Arab divide and how it ...

JimbobNE comments on Jul 21, 2019:

Yes, there is a divide. Democrats support the groups who tried to destroy Israel many times. Republicans support Israel, the only real democracy in the middle east, and feel the gains from the 6 day war by Israel are their rightful gains from a war of Arab agression. Israel has the right to defend ...

dmatic replies on Jul 21, 2019:

Yet, no one has the 'right' to mistreat others 'wrongly'.

There seems to be so much garbage in the Russia investigation, that we may never find out what ...

iThink comments on Jul 20, 2019:

make no mistake - Atty General Barr and a lot of other people know all there is to know about who did what. You and I may never know and it is doubtful anyone will be formally charged with crimes for what was done. ...move on folks - nothing to see here.

dmatic replies on Jul 21, 2019:

@Jeeper752 Exactly, Jeeper. Getting principled judges in place is also necessary, before the stuff hits the fan takes time, too. Patience may also be called for with the Epstein case, and all the trails that will be followed and bad guys exposed in that saga. Lots of corruption and dirty dealing will be exposed as that bird sings.

There seems to be so much garbage in the Russia investigation, that we may never find out what ...

RobBlair comments on Jul 20, 2019:

Was Mueller prevented from completing his report? Did Mueller not do a good job (dishonest illegitimate)? What other garbage are we talking about?

dmatic replies on Jul 21, 2019:

This article was from December of 2018.

There is a call for South Africans to pray for the boy (16), Dallyn, who along with his father (45) ...

dmatic comments on Jul 18, 2019:

Will do, but how is the father?

dmatic replies on Jul 21, 2019:

@Jenna Thanks, Jenna! This is all so very sad. The injustices are very frustrating to even imagine. God bless you.

Proving The Bubble

dmatic comments on Jul 5, 2019:

"We can be certain the burst approaches. We can never be certain when it will occur. It is difficult to tell how much was driven by innovation, but even this can only help the economy catch up to the expanded monetary base." I pulled this from the short article and would like to ask a question ...

dmatic replies on Jul 20, 2019:

@FrankZeleniuk What, pray tell, are these 'certain properties'? Does the size of the monetary base have anything to do with the size of the wealth that it represents? Or is it a closed system? If a closed system, how would it grow? Thanks

There is a call for South Africans to pray for the boy (16), Dallyn, who along with his father (45) ...

dmatic comments on Jul 18, 2019:

Will do, but how is the father?

dmatic replies on Jul 19, 2019:

@Jenna Thanks, please keep us informed about Dallyn.

"IF reality is a feedback loop.

dmatic comments on Jul 16, 2019:

Joseph Rudyard Kipling wrote a poem entitled "IF", I think. Deep....like you!

dmatic replies on Jul 18, 2019:

@TommyApplecore THANK You! Still striving to be that 'man'.

My Jordan fix - short clip on what is a Christian Marxist - how we miss inherent contradictions and ...

chuckpo comments on Jul 18, 2019:

A couple of thoughts. One issue I take with JP is he speaks of labels like there is no variation within them, but you can imagine individuals taking some ideas from marxism, for example, but not all of the ideas. At some point the full breadth of life doesn't exist within labels. Life's too big. ...

dmatic replies on Jul 18, 2019:

you wrote: "I loved when JP said, maybe we're here to continually keep looking. "..I actually wrote that line down as I listened. Gonna use it in a song....or a poem... But, to the first part of your comment....I think he was speaking about the label of "believer", as to what it means, so he was showing the variations of that term. Oh, no. That was the second video I clicked on....sorry. Ok, I've recovered... I think he was trying to show the dissonance in trying to hold two very different philosophies in one's head at once. Kinda like the terms "pro-choice and Christian", or, rather, pro-child murder and Christian. They don't go together and it's Ok to make a choice between the two. If compromise is one's idea of the right path, riding the fence may prove to be very chafing.

"IF reality is a feedback loop.

chuckpo comments on Jul 16, 2019:

You definitely march to the beat of your own drummer. Pretty good place for innovation. Maybe everything you've thought and written isn't bullocks. BUT, you may have to connect a few more dots for people (including me) to get what you're saying out. I've talked to people who are high--they always ...

dmatic replies on Jul 17, 2019:

@chuckpo TommyApplecore, I, too, would like to peruse your meanderings...er, imaginings...

"IF reality is a feedback loop.

dmatic comments on Jul 16, 2019:

Joseph Rudyard Kipling wrote a poem entitled "IF", I think. Deep....like you!

dmatic replies on Jul 17, 2019:

@TommyApplecore You posted it here? I did not see it. Where did you post it? Would like to check it out...

Neoliberal Corporatism: The global concentration of power in the hands of a few (powerful ...

Mrgeo315 comments on Jun 26, 2019:

@Naomi I think a lot of it has to do with our currency setups, fractional reserve banking, central banks and complacent citizens of many governments. The rise of globalism is absolutely rooted in corporatism, elites attempting to take control with their massive resources. The consolidation of ...

dmatic replies on Jul 15, 2019:

@Mrgeo315 So the gold 'standard' is not standard? Back in the day, the government needed more money in circulation, so they simply and overnight said: Well, now, since we have this much weight in gold in the vaults, but people need currency to use to trade with and there is getting to be more people trading, and more stuff to be traded for, we will now just declare that the gold that used to be worth, or back so many 'dollars', will now be worth, and back, double the amount of currency! Viola', and, shortly, they ran into the same problem, and so that the economic system would not grind to a halt they magically increased the number of dollars the finite supply of gold they actually owned was now worth double again? Seems like a scam to me. The game would be just get control of all the gold, and then one could make the rules...as long as the people still had faith in the scam....

Neoliberal Corporatism: The global concentration of power in the hands of a few (powerful ...

Mrgeo315 comments on Jun 26, 2019:

@Naomi I think a lot of it has to do with our currency setups, fractional reserve banking, central banks and complacent citizens of many governments. The rise of globalism is absolutely rooted in corporatism, elites attempting to take control with their massive resources. The consolidation of ...

dmatic replies on Jul 14, 2019:

@Mrgeo315 Busy weekend....I am a bit confused, about how a gold "standard" would work if the "value of gold" could be anywhere from $35 an ounce, to $87,000 an ounce. Thanks...We're collecting signatures at local annual festival in our state to require the state to refund 35% of property taxes paid...to get it on the ballot for the people to govern the governors....

Neoliberal Corporatism: The global concentration of power in the hands of a few (powerful ...

Mrgeo315 comments on Jun 26, 2019:

@Naomi I think a lot of it has to do with our currency setups, fractional reserve banking, central banks and complacent citizens of many governments. The rise of globalism is absolutely rooted in corporatism, elites attempting to take control with their massive resources. The consolidation of ...

dmatic replies on Jul 13, 2019:

@Mrgeo315 Guess I'm not even sure how the gold standard would even work....Any help would be appreciated. Thanks

AOC Marxism and the Gates of Hades Karl Marx said that "no capital was created by the ...

ScottforKing comments on Jul 11, 2019:

It appears to me that most of the people at this web site, me included, would have some trouble with some of the thinking in your article, however, after reading it, I wondered if you had a plan to return us to a better place with more sanity.

dmatic replies on Jul 12, 2019:

@mccarthy keep spreading the word, Mr. Revere!

Neoliberal Corporatism: The global concentration of power in the hands of a few (powerful ...

Mrgeo315 comments on Jun 26, 2019:

@Naomi I think a lot of it has to do with our currency setups, fractional reserve banking, central banks and complacent citizens of many governments. The rise of globalism is absolutely rooted in corporatism, elites attempting to take control with their massive resources. The consolidation of ...

dmatic replies on Jul 12, 2019:

@Mrgeo315 So, you are saying the valuation of the gold would change? I thought you were for a stable system? One where the valuation of the currency or monetary units, or gold units would remain constant? Just skimmed an article suggesting the gold would need to rise to $87,000 an ounce in order to straighten out the system considering the $22T debt....It's a mess...due to debt and interest charging. The problem is not fiat money. The problem is debt and finance!

Is facial recognition the new fingerprinting, or something much worse? [reason.com]

PalmThis comments on Jul 9, 2019:

The bible says that we'll give up our freedoms eventually. Would you rather let the convicts go free or do you think it's better to give up your freedoms? There are 2 ways to look at that. The more cameras that we have, the better chance to catch the evil ones. That comes at a price though! We'd ...

dmatic replies on Jul 12, 2019:

@PalmThis Thanks, Palm. I will be interested to read it...

Is facial recognition the new fingerprinting, or something much worse? [reason.com]

PalmThis comments on Jul 9, 2019:

The bible says that we'll give up our freedoms eventually. Would you rather let the convicts go free or do you think it's better to give up your freedoms? There are 2 ways to look at that. The more cameras that we have, the better chance to catch the evil ones. That comes at a price though! We'd ...

dmatic replies on Jul 11, 2019:

@Don_Provolone Oh, I think I get it, you're calling me a simpleton? I have read Revelation, by the way, a number of times, though I don't claim to understand it all, yet. Maybe you could show me where it says that "we" will give up our liberties? What I have read is that "we" overcome him by the blood of the Lamb, the word of our testimony and we loved not our lives to the death. Thanks

Is facial recognition the new fingerprinting, or something much worse? [reason.com]

PalmThis comments on Jul 9, 2019:

The bible says that we'll give up our freedoms eventually. Would you rather let the convicts go free or do you think it's better to give up your freedoms? There are 2 ways to look at that. The more cameras that we have, the better chance to catch the evil ones. That comes at a price though! We'd ...

dmatic replies on Jul 11, 2019:

@Don_Provolone Not sure what you mean. Sorry?

AOC Marxism and the Gates of Hades Karl Marx said that "no capital was created by the ...

ScottforKing comments on Jul 11, 2019:

It appears to me that most of the people at this web site, me included, would have some trouble with some of the thinking in your article, however, after reading it, I wondered if you had a plan to return us to a better place with more sanity.

dmatic replies on Jul 11, 2019:

Liberty and Justice FOR ALL, including the individuals that make up society, would be a great place.

AOC Marxism and the Gates of Hades Karl Marx said that "no capital was created by the ...

dmatic comments on Jul 11, 2019:

Socialism and Communism, if not done voluntarily, are the most violent form of beastial government on earth, inciting the base nature of humanity to covet and plunder and steal and kill.

dmatic replies on Jul 11, 2019:

@Seasteader Exactly, and this is why The U.S. is exceptional.....or at least used to be, in that the rights of the individual were protected!

Neoliberal Corporatism: The global concentration of power in the hands of a few (powerful ...

Mrgeo315 comments on Jun 26, 2019:

@Naomi I think a lot of it has to do with our currency setups, fractional reserve banking, central banks and complacent citizens of many governments. The rise of globalism is absolutely rooted in corporatism, elites attempting to take control with their massive resources. The consolidation of ...

dmatic replies on Jul 11, 2019:

@Mrgeo315 But how would business be carried out, if we used gold? There is not enough gold out there?

Is facial recognition the new fingerprinting, or something much worse? [reason.com]

PalmThis comments on Jul 9, 2019:

The bible says that we'll give up our freedoms eventually. Would you rather let the convicts go free or do you think it's better to give up your freedoms? There are 2 ways to look at that. The more cameras that we have, the better chance to catch the evil ones. That comes at a price though! We'd ...

dmatic replies on Jul 11, 2019:

@Don_Provolone Apparently, we all die... Maybe, though I;m not sure about that. Those who take the mark will also die, of course. Revelation suggest if one does not take the mark, though he may get his head chopped off, he will live and reign with Christ for a thousand years. I ws just asking Palm, where it said that we will give up our liberty... Thanks

Neoliberal Corporatism: The global concentration of power in the hands of a few (powerful ...

Mrgeo315 comments on Jun 26, 2019:

@Naomi I think a lot of it has to do with our currency setups, fractional reserve banking, central banks and complacent citizens of many governments. The rise of globalism is absolutely rooted in corporatism, elites attempting to take control with their massive resources. The consolidation of ...

dmatic replies on Jul 11, 2019:

@Mrgeo315 Of course you had reason to use the word excess in your understanding of wealth. My point was to show that both individuals were consuming wealth. Some consume more wealth than others. Some, obviously have more stuff (wealth) than others. In a free system, each person may pursue as much wealth accumulation as one wants to pursue. And others are free not to pursue more wealth than they need. As is understood, some choose to put their efforts into putting wealth in heaven, where moth and rust do not consume them...and, thereby having wasted their efforts to acquire, if they get greedy here on earth, or seek security through storing more and more of it. The point I was trying to make, albeit poorly, was that wealth is not something that is simply something in excess. It is anything and everything made valuable by human effort. How valuable is determined by the law of supply and demand. One thing I think you forgot in your reasons for increases in prices of goods, is interest collecting on borrowed 'money'. But, I agree that those 'expenses' add to the cost of producing wealth. Along with increased labor costs etc. The money supply should increase as more wealth is created, and more trade is being done, and that would not cause a devaluing of the currency. However, the Fractional Reserve banking system, with its loans and subsequent interest collecting, the debt based currency IS the main enemy of money holding its representative value.

I stumbled on this statement: "Prisoners on death row may offer their organs.

dmatic comments on Jul 10, 2019:

Of course they may. Not sure that's the least they can do to atone for their crimes, though.

dmatic replies on Jul 10, 2019:

@Naomi Actually, I am for Capital punishment simply because God instituted it. No one should be put to death for something they didn't do, of course, but it is impossible to atone for a murder, for example, if by atoning, you mean restoring the victim back to life. So, the least a convicted murderer could do...the least, mind you, is be sorry for his/her crime. To donate his/her organs after the execution would be fine gesture toward that end.

I stumbled on this statement: "Prisoners on death row may offer their organs.

dmatic comments on Jul 10, 2019:

Of course they may. Not sure that's the least they can do to atone for their crimes, though.

dmatic replies on Jul 10, 2019:

@Naomi Depends on the crime they seek atonement for...but the least may be to acknowledge their guilt and show their remorse, if they guilty.

Neoliberal Corporatism: The global concentration of power in the hands of a few (powerful ...

Mrgeo315 comments on Jun 26, 2019:

@Naomi I think a lot of it has to do with our currency setups, fractional reserve banking, central banks and complacent citizens of many governments. The rise of globalism is absolutely rooted in corporatism, elites attempting to take control with their massive resources. The consolidation of ...

dmatic replies on Jul 10, 2019:

@Mrgeo315 Got called away while I was responding to your earlier post and now it is lost...but, (and I just want to understand your definitions and for you to understand mine) you wrote: "Stores of food, water, fuel, medicines, transportation, electricity, etc, etc, even firewood and toilet paper, they are all forms of wealth to varying degree's in my perception as they can be excess resources. " I agree that all that 'stuff' is wealth....but you seem to add the addendum that wealth is excess? It may not seem important, but I think it is one of the basics, alluded to earlier...that wealth is anything and everything made valuable by human effort. In economics it is a study of all that 'stuff' that is made valuable by human effort. How it is produced (created) how it is distributed and how it is consumed. The guy who eats one pea for dinner is consuming wealth, as is the guy that has a rib eye with all the trimmings. I suppose "excess" wealth can be looked at as what is in the cupboard, that isn't being consumed that night for dinner, but it is wealth, nonetheless. That's the "store" so to speak. But, just because someone does not even own a cupboard does not mean he/she is not consuming wealth. OK, enough of that...on to some more of your thoughts... Gold and silver are wealth whether or not they are coined, as "money", because human effort was exerted to discover, mine and smelt them, if that is what they do...the value attached to each, is regulated by the law of supply and demand... Money's function, is to act as a trade convenience. Sometimes, due to a lack of money, wealth is NOT being created...and obviously, then, is not being traded. The fact that people have not used gold and silver, generally, as 'money", and yet, very much wealth has been created shows that money does not need to have inherent value to accomplish its purpose. When "trade" happens, the distribution and then consumption of wealth happen. When trade does not happen, distribution is limited. "Trade" seems to be a vital function of an economy. You've said a lot in that post from which the following is taken: " In the dollar standard, if prices are going up versus the ease of obtaining dollars to transfer wealth, ease of access of resources is becoming more limited, then real wealth is shrinking. The value of money depends entirely on if you want to consider only real money as money or the fiat US dollar as money. One of they key definitions in real money is that it maintains it's value over time. Currency does not. " OK, I agree with you that the measure (money) or standard should remain consistent..not sure i understand your statement 'if prices are going up versus ?...then real wealth is shrinking'. May I ask you if you know why prices go up? And do you know why ...

Neoliberal Corporatism: The global concentration of power in the hands of a few (powerful ...

Mrgeo315 comments on Jun 26, 2019:

@Naomi I think a lot of it has to do with our currency setups, fractional reserve banking, central banks and complacent citizens of many governments. The rise of globalism is absolutely rooted in corporatism, elites attempting to take control with their massive resources. The consolidation of ...

dmatic replies on Jul 10, 2019:

@Mrgeo315 I just was made aware of your longer post before the last one and need to digest it before responding completely, but you wrote: "Here in the United States, the current ease at which most resources are attained and even thrown away has taken something from most in my opinion, and basic understanding is a huge part of it." You are SO right! Basic understanding....which some would have called common sense in the 'old days', is so uncommon in today's culture....Ok, back to reading the rest of your post. Thanks!

Neoliberal Corporatism: The global concentration of power in the hands of a few (powerful ...

Mrgeo315 comments on Jun 26, 2019:

@Naomi I think a lot of it has to do with our currency setups, fractional reserve banking, central banks and complacent citizens of many governments. The rise of globalism is absolutely rooted in corporatism, elites attempting to take control with their massive resources. The consolidation of ...

dmatic replies on Jul 10, 2019:

@Mrgeo315 Not sure I agree that it is a 'side note', Mrgeo! I think you've hit on the real issue! A fake economy? Interesting. If/when the situation changes....could that mean when the whole fake thing comes crashing down? Actually, I am amazed it has continued as long as it has, the ruse being 'bought' by the unsuspecting public, and has not crashed yet. The fact that NO ONE seems to care that our government is 23 Trillion in debt....and they continue to spend borrowed "money" and are not fearful of bankruptcy seems to prove your astute observation that it is fake! Some years ago, I heard God tell me that there was coming an economic collapse and chaos in the cities...I suppose it's possible I just made that up in my own thoughts, but, my wife and I responded accordingly, as if, indeed, He warned of such a future, which made sense to me. Anyway...if/when it happens we will, thank God, be better off than most. Hopefully, we will be able to help people make it through the transition...into a real economy that is just!

The economy is like a game of Monopoly.

Crikey comments on Jul 3, 2019:

I am very impressed that JBP managed to make such an astute observation. Capitalism is a very effective mechanism for the redistribution of wealth. The less you regulate it, the more effective it becomes (obviously). Progressive taxation (with a minimum of loopholes) is one effective brake ...

dmatic replies on Jul 10, 2019:

@Crikey Not sure what a lefty sub-forum is, but a thread defining your thoughts would be interesting...if you are willing to investigate your conclusions. You may think the definition of socialism is "the radical idea of sharing", or that it is the workers that own and control the means of production, but you would be naive. As far as "free health care for everybody in the world"....wouldn't that be nice, and sweet, and wonderful. Wouldn't it be nice if everything was free? Let's just get rid of "money", too. Someday, we may advanced enough to actually consider our neighbor's interests above our own, and be totally selfless....but I'm not sure the violence that is socialism will get us there. nor will the covetousness of capitalism, I suppose.