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This is what a mentally unhealthy neighbor threw out into the middle of our cul de sac because she ...
govols comments on Jun 22, 2019:
Finder's keepers?
Tremendous progress was made today welding the complex fore and aft spars on the Seawolf. Primary ...
govols comments on Jun 21, 2019:
What do you mean by cope? I haven't done it in a while but I remember machining titanium to be fairly easy if turning or milling, but sort of gummy if trying to tap. I remember it as far more like aluminum than stainless or hasteloy where machining is concerned. How is the welding going? Do NOT grit blast anything if welding is to follow. I've forgotten more than I remember, but I have notes and coworkers. If you have challenges post them up.
[foxnews.com] But....but....but....it's all made up. No historical accuracy at all.
govols comments on Jun 21, 2019:
Does anyone really think there's no historical accuracy? I'm not a faith filled believer, nor an atheist. I'm not a credentialed scholar. I'm freaking astounded by history, culture, and religion. I've read enough and watched enough lectures by very learned people to know that the bible would be considered a HUGE contribution to our potential understanding of ancient history, poured over by scholars for centuries if it had been lost and then dug up sometime in the recent past by archaeologists. All of the most modern methods of critical interpretation would be deployed to try to sort the history from the lore, facts from traditions, truth from moral and cultural instruction. Whole departments would be built aimed at deconstructing and sorting the text, each chunk of new information directed toward literature, philosophy, history, sociology, psychology, anthropology, etc. Well, maybe.
The New Society (I believe that we are on the cusp of a new, unprecedented and largely ...
govols comments on Jun 20, 2019:
I'm interested in your project, but every time I think about diving into it...like, really since some our earliest interactions... Damn. It's big.
Do you think i should add 2nd moderator to this site if so who and should it be ? Thanks folks
govols comments on Jun 20, 2019:
Why do you think one might be needed?
From one of my sons.
govols comments on Jun 20, 2019:
I don't get it.....
Was the introduction of abstract art a sign of the complete disconnection of man and spirit? Does...
govols comments on Jun 19, 2019:
Google "venus figurine" to see what abstract art is capable of offering the human spirit.
If you have seen this one before it may be worth seeing again, it's that good. [facebook.com]
govols comments on Jun 19, 2019:
I find him really hard to tolerate when he has a script.
To start things off, here's a podcast link from May 21st, 2019 Defending The West From The West - ...
govols comments on Jun 19, 2019:
We (from other cultures) can take your material innovation and raise it, because we don't have to bother with your ideas of individual sovereignty and liberty.....
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govols comments on Jun 19, 2019:
We (from other cultures) can take your material innovation and raise it, because we don't have to bother with your ideas of individual sovereignty and liberty.....
Thunderbolts Project (archive) [youtube.com] Say, what's your take on Electric Universe theory?...
govols comments on Jun 19, 2019:
The video doesn't play. what was the title?
America’s Forgotten History of Illegal Deportations - The Atlantic
govols comments on Jun 18, 2019:
Articles so flagrantly biased are poor presentations to offer if reasoned consideration is to be hoped for. But, that's not the intent; the intent is to stir an emotional reaction from those already persuaded to the ideology being promoted. Alas, and so it goes.
Camille Paglia @ Lafayette, "Gender Issues in Ancient Art," Full Event [youtube.com]
govols comments on Jun 18, 2019:
Thanks. The trans teacher on South Park is like her antithesis. M'kay?
Have you confronted an anti-semite? What has been successful in reducing the prejudice/strife and ...
govols comments on Jun 18, 2019:
I've never confronted an anti-semite because I don't understand the phrase. Semite is a word associated with language, and many peoples share languages with common origins. If one means anti-Jew or anti-Zion, say it.
I came across the statement that Islamophobia and antisemitism are words that prevent the criticism ...
govols comments on Jun 18, 2019:
Those words don't quite prevent criticism, but they *are* used to marginalize the ideas expressed and to demonize the person who presents them.
Eat the weeds is a web site that helps in identifying plants that used to be a part of the diet of ...
govols comments on Jun 18, 2019:
Very cool idea. Thanks for the link.
OK, I think that we need a NEW platform to express our ideas and have conversations. I've been on ...
govols comments on Jun 18, 2019:
Do you have a new site? All of the platforms are different, used for purposes they're best at. Are you suggesting some new integrated site or what?
Psychological Barriers to Evolutionary Psychology: Ideological Bias and Coalitional Adaptations, ...
govols comments on Jun 17, 2019:
What a refreshingly comprehensible abstract.
Speak of the Devil: How Demonizing "Whiteness" Spreads White Nationalism | Bret Weinstein - YouTube
govols comments on Jun 17, 2019:
There's something like depth that's missing from both the ideas underlying intersectionality, and the understanding that most people have of those ideas. The understanding that a lot of us have is the whole Oppression Olympics thing that's so easily mocked. I'm not sure many people know the story of where the notion came from. The basic cause that prompted the concept was a lawsuit regarding workplace discrimination. A black woman sued GM? Ford? because she wasn't hired. The ruling was that no discrimination occurred because the company employed blacks, and the company employed women. The take away, given the notion that the company was obviously guilty of some sort of oppression, was that a new way of describing the oppression was required. The company was willing to enslave women into one sort of job, and blacks into another sort of job, but was then yet unwilling to enslave black women specifically because they suffered from a special sort of special. Black women are especially oppressed by not just the patriarchy, and not just by systemic racism, but by a combination of both as a result of their lived experience of being both women and black. The special form of oppressive victimization they experience from society arises at the "intersection" of womanhood and blackness. The entire theory is an attempt to innovate a legal tactic. The strategy is to use novel interpretation with and against the existing legal structure in order to re-imagine the meanings of law and order themselves. White men aren't the targets of the theory; the status quo of the rule of law is the target. That sometimes white men become the victims is but a happy coincident. The underlying idea is that the entire legal system is a product of those with power in previous generations handed down a system that inherently designed to keep in power their own posterity--at the expense of everyone "not them." The framework of intersectionality isn't the idea of overlapping forms of privilege and victimization, but instead that law and order is a product--and the form--of oppression. The Critical Legal Theory from which intersectionality derives is that tactics must be innovated to serve the strategy of reinventing jurisprudence itself. Very much like it matters less who is allowed to vote than it does who counts the votes, it matters less who makes the laws than it does who interprets and fabricates the language used during adjudication.
Speak of the Devil: How Demonizing "Whiteness" Spreads White Nationalism | Bret Weinstein - YouTube
govols comments on Jun 17, 2019:
One of my big objections right now is the entirety of the left "power/oppression" and "zero sum" view of the world. If the world is as they view it then they are, by definition, attempting to take over the use of power in order to impose a new distribution system upon the previously privileged. Given their continuous insistence that the power to present has been privileged toward the hetero-normative cis-gendered white male ruling class for which all whites are assigned some level of blame, they've actually, for real, without question, declared war on the straight white male and all of his kin. It's all right there in their own damned "Theory."
The Seawolf was designed to solve the 7 main technical problems of Seasteading: 1) Corrosion - ...
govols comments on Jun 16, 2019:
What is an upright spar type structure, and have current titanium vessels been publicly inspected for any issues you're saying the material eliminates?
This Father's Day is tough. Estranged from my son and being erased from his life by his mother who ...
govols comments on Jun 16, 2019:
I believe human is a set, and person is a subset. I have no moral or emotional attachment to the set of all humans. There are millions of both men and women among the set of persons, all of whom I regard as largely decent and worthy of trust. The set of humans who have demonstrated personhood to me number in the dozens and include both men and women. The rest I assume to be animals until I know them well enough to develop a mutual trust. It fits my experience.
At a risk of starting a massive debate, I will say in advance that I will NOT be discussing the ...
govols comments on Jun 16, 2019:
I think you're framing it unfairly. Both sides agree about making choices regarding the getting of pregnant. It's the matter of how pregnancy ends where objections arise.
Father's Day is rough. Getting many happy wishes that ring hollow from people who know I'm being ...
govols comments on Jun 16, 2019:
A topic I know nothing about, and am frankly quite uncomfortable with. Still, if I could manage empathy I would offer it. You're going through shit that no parent should face and I wish none were. You're in my thoughts.
Hello. I'm under the impression that some members at higher levels have been behaving like Big ...
govols comments on Jun 16, 2019:
I don't see it. Maybe you and other more active members just tend differently in conversation and purpose, but since the most frequent postrr9 are, Well, the most frequent posters, they're who you hear from....
I feel this video creates a great visual of how rage travels through those whom fail to acknowledge ...
govols comments on Jun 15, 2019:
The video fails to play.
What are some of your thoughts on the United Nations 2030 project, and also the tribute song devoted...
govols comments on Jun 15, 2019:
The song was impossible to listen to.
Apparently only Dems can collect opposition research on candidates from foreign governments. Good ...
govols comments on Jun 15, 2019:
Yep.
Beware of the Trolls Alert - Every now and then we all run into one of these, appealing to a group ...
govols comments on Jun 14, 2019:
My biggest problem with people online is the ones with whom I share no apparent interest. They sometimes make my scrolling finger sore.
Black Pigeon Speaks BANNED From YouTube - YouTube
govols comments on Jun 14, 2019:
It's back on now...or was an hour ago.
Transcript of 14th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution: Civil Rights 1868 AMENDMENT XIV Section...
govols comments on Jun 12, 2019:
No commentary?
In an attempt to expose academic fields corrupted by postmodern ideology
govols comments on Jun 12, 2019:
Is there wealth enough among us that fuck it money might be raised to support such lights of truth?
I need help. I'm trying to get my head around the difficulties we actually face where social, ...
govols comments on Jun 12, 2019:
Totally rebutted by a meme? https://idw.community/idw/images/posts/23663_8ws99erv7kfbn97_full.jpeg?v=2
Is science-denialism the same on the Left as it is on the Right? Conservatives (mostly in the US) ...
govols comments on Jun 12, 2019:
This topic pisses me off. Science is about exploring and explaining, but is always about skepticism. People don't deny science; people question conclusions and inferences. Such questioning and skepticism isn't denial, but science.
Is science-denialism the same on the Left as it is on the Right? Conservatives (mostly in the US) ...
govols comments on Jun 12, 2019:
I'll stipulate that science seeks fact, but not that it seeks truth.
Will President Trump be able to drain the swamp? will most democrats fall in the purge? will Killary...
govols comments on Jun 12, 2019:
There will be no swamp draining. The administrative state and the managerial class are millions strong, fairly wealthy, and enjoy both great power and position security.
I disagree with Andrew Yang on many things. But if I had to have one of these Democrats in the White...
govols comments on Jun 12, 2019:
It's kinda crazy that political preference has come down to degrees and directions of hatred, eh?
Jimmy Kimmel is a racist, misogynistic,homophobic, bigoted, straight white man! Oh and a hypocrite ...
govols comments on Jun 11, 2019:
Thanks....
Get out and see the sunshine, it is far better the virtual world.
govols comments on Jun 11, 2019:
Yep. Been there, done that. Now that you mention it, though, think I'll go piss off the back porch and see it again.
Any thoughts [medium.com]
govols comments on Jun 11, 2019:
I doubt the sanity of the author.
Most atheists believe in the supernatural. Most atheists and agnostics believe in supernatural...
govols comments on Jun 10, 2019:
I have less difficulty with God than with generic good/evil or spirit world type stuff. For now my opinion of the nature of humans as animals is sufficient to explain evil, and his nature as conscious as sufficient to explain good.
Third Discrimination Suit Filed Against Masterpiece Cakeshop No matter how many times you win, the ...
govols comments on Jun 10, 2019:
This is bull crap. The proper ruling for some case at some point needs to be to acknowledge that custom art can't be forced from someone against their own morals for the purpose of making them express on your behalf political, social and moral views with which they don't agree.
Faith or Works? In the Bible there are about 69 references to the "Last Judgment" and it would ...
govols comments on Jun 10, 2019:
Faith. I think it was Aristotle who said all human actions are aimed at "some good," but also pointed out that a great deal of practice is required to either apprehend the nature of the actual good and its component parts, or to act toward it consistently and intentionally. A really bright person with incredible moral and ethical insight, vast reserves of self-discipline, might manage on his own to earn the positive judgment of God. The rest of us need faith in the grace that God might lend us if we can but manage to seek his will and follow it as best we can discern it. We're too flawed to perform in the world as though in the image of God. Still, even non-believers, given faith at least in the idea of moral good, can seek the strength to follow it toward good actions, practice at least NOT DOING wrong. Even the determinists among us, through faith in free-won't, can practice some free will no matter the chemical biological demands of out behavioral response to stimulus.
To find out 100% facts
govols comments on Jun 9, 2019:
Depends on the sort of information you're after. Google is good if you go to multiple sites. The key is YOU being open minded and looking for truth. Sometimes it hurts.
Is this real, American folks? Sounds crazy.
govols comments on Jun 5, 2019:
Yes, it's real. It isn't about a nutter judge here or there, but about the fact that all of the precedence is in place such that every court that rules according to current established law would apply the additional phrasing as it was applied to previous rulings to prior phrasing.
I finally get it!!! The Leftists call anything and anyone who supports their nation over another as ...
govols comments on Jun 4, 2019:
The single issue of current times is globalism. It isn't left/right. The global left and global right frown on any ideas that tend toward local, national, regional, sectional...non-global thinking or attitudes. There is a collection of monists across the left/right spectrum that seeks to globalize solutions to to the human condition. Some want global merchantilism, others global governmental structures, others global environmental policies... The common thread is a certain "one world/one human condition and experience" sort of belief structure. Well, that and empire sorts of thinking.
assange is having “health issues”. Legit? Not legit? Surprising? Not surprising? ...
govols comments on May 31, 2019:
The Russians did it.
[youtube.com] Ask yourself....do you really want to know just how deep the rabbit hole goes?
govols comments on May 31, 2019:
One of the biggest points he's trying to make is the need to prioritize the value of citizenship and to weight that value against the need to increase the value of shareholder ownership. His view, it seems to me, is that the purpose and nature of a functional NATION is to worry as much (or more) about the value to the shareholders--stake-holders--of the nation itself, as is worried over the value of global corporations. Nationalism is about sustainability. A nation has to be able to provide great opportunity to three sections of people within it. No matter the status of an endeavor's value to human achievement, the very fucking good, the adequate, and the "you suck at that but try this" categories have to all be aimed toward a common greater good of general prosperity at every level of both ability and achievement. The scientist might look a bit down at the engineer, who might look down a bit at the technician; everyone looks up to the septic tank pumper when the toilets back up into the bathtubs and sinks.
[youtube.com] Ask yourself....do you really want to know just how deep the rabbit hole goes?
govols comments on May 31, 2019:
This video has more ads than any I've seen.
Hillary is waiting in the wings ... Don’t look now, but Hillary Clinton hasn’t counted ...
govols comments on May 30, 2019:
I have no doubt she is currently running. She may never announce, but she is actively seeking the nomination.
How in the Hell do you forget how to build a Pyramid?
govols comments on May 30, 2019:
The one who had the last one built had all of the builders killed?
Today if you care too, can we explore the mysteries world of TRUTHS AND LIES. and sounds simple you ...
govols comments on May 29, 2019:
Silence is a reasonable choice sometimes.
Modernists Defeated - So it should!
govols comments on May 29, 2019:
Feet, fire. Keep them there.
Well Godless Woman, let's get a conversation started. You like sex, good we could for days, you like...
govols comments on May 29, 2019:
The old testament has a modern scholarly translation in the form of The Jewish Study Bible. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00OKPCRLG/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8=1
Wrote another response to Uri Harris... and got this one published! [arcdigital.media] ...
govols comments on May 28, 2019:
I think you put together accurate representations of both the current fundamental divide, and the nature of the alliance among classically liberal conservatives and progressives against the illiberal bane of identity politics and social justice. (There are no "liberals;" there are only progressives who go so far for a given era that they have to change what they call themselves from time to time to retain some place in electoral politics.)
Who made God? The problem with the view that God is a programmer or designer is that it makes God...
govols comments on May 28, 2019:
Part of the reason there even IS a God is that we can't imagine the complexity of our experience without there being one (or more). God said, "I am." We humans can't really conceptualize that notion. Everything has a beginning, a cause, a purpose...to even pretend to imagine a form of being that exists outside of our own limitations is simply that: pretense. Some things are incomprehensible, and that's the simplicity of God. We say, "WHY am I here?" God says, "I am." That's the difference between complexity and simplicity, and a manner of being that we mere mortals can't quite wrap our heads around.
[youtube.com] Thoughts?
govols comments on May 28, 2019:
On atheism, yes, many have really struggled with the fact that belief is fundamental to western morality, and that practice of religious faith and traditions is part of how the culture has historically grown and propagated across time. The big question for atheists is "Yeah, and now what the hell do we do?" There are many atheists who are attempting to demystify morals and ethics in a way that can serve as a practical "cult" to stand in stead for faith. Whether God revealed Himself to the ancients or the ancients invented Him to explain the world and to instruct social norms, I'm not sure that matters where the above is concerned. I'm simply unconvinced that any of us are bright enough to outsmart God whether He's the real deal or the sum of the moral and pragmatic wisdom of thousands of generations of humans, being, together.
I ply or 2
govols comments on May 28, 2019:
Nuh uh.
Chuckle [youtu.be]
govols comments on May 26, 2019:
wow.
So spot on!
govols comments on May 26, 2019:
Oh, good lord. That's awesome.
Ok Powerful Men Tend to be Over Sexed? Am I Right Here? Kennedy, Clinton how many Others. Anyone ...
govols comments on May 26, 2019:
It's not power but status. *Women of a certain type* seek high status partners even if it means persuading the high status individual to betray a current relationship. They want these high status partners because their own self-worth relies on the status they gain by counting coup against rival females. They're not nymphomaniacs, they're greedy, selfish, insecure, vanity driven whores. IMHO......
Tribalism is not only dangerous, but in the end, stupid. If you demonize other factions, you are ...
govols comments on May 25, 2019:
I just have a sneaking feeling that most of us can't globalize very well. We don't have it in us to empathize with people from dissimilar cultures half way around the globe. It's just too freaking large a scale. Sure, some have it down to some degree, and yes, most of us have figured out how to identify with a broader community than just a small town or neighborhood, but even at the national level most places have their sectional, social, and economic divisions. I'm not saying we aren't equipped to deal with humanity on a broader scale, but most of us simply can't muster the emotional motivation to bother. Our preference is to live in as small an environment as possible, and the more people we identify with, the more complex our maps of the world have to be. All that said, nothing about being tied to smallish collectives of mostly shared identities and beliefs necessarily requires inter"denominational" hatred or malevolence.
Radio Host Rush Limbaugh and other Palm Beach, Florida residents to bulldoze nuisance sea turtle ...
govols comments on May 24, 2019:
Following law to logical conclusions?
Suppose someone had some spare money. What would be the best thing they could do with it?
govols comments on May 24, 2019:
Suppose someone had some spare money. Okay, now you're just making stuff up.
How can we best do good? It must be better to strive to do good rather than bad ...
govols comments on May 24, 2019:
How can we best do good? Well, first you have to know good. Then you have to practice. Alternatively, you can know a whole lot about "not good" and practice NOT doing those sorts of things. It's all about practice, building the habits of doing and not doing as often and correctly as you can manage.
America has LESS racial prejudice under Trump [mrctv.org]
govols comments on May 23, 2019:
***Another theory is that Republicans and Trump supporters may actually have real concerns not based on race, such as the economy, healthcare, and taxes. But who knows. *** Gee...Ya think?
Would anyone be interested in explanation into the "deep under belly" (as I have named it) of ...
govols comments on May 23, 2019:
Sure, lay it on us.
Is anyone else concerned about the lack of skilled tradesmen in this country????
govols comments on May 23, 2019:
Very troubled that so much hand talent with good minds are shunted off to college and shoehorned into desk work before they ever learn what it feels like to craft good forms from base materials.
5G might kill municipal broadband [pagetwo.completecolorado.com]
govols comments on May 23, 2019:
Good post. Thanks.
When you can say what you want.
govols comments on May 23, 2019:
Yep. But nobody wants to hear that.
Labour Knew about the Muslim Grooming Gangs - YouTube
govols comments on May 23, 2019:
infuriating.
Did the Trump administration take the right step in the right direction, to try and protect free ...
govols comments on May 23, 2019:
I don't see any harm from it and any ideas on how we might make social-mass-internet-political-media less tyrannical will have to begin with information.
Hi everyone, here is a thought to pour into the mix. A genetic shyt storm is blowing through ...
govols comments on May 23, 2019:
I don't understand what you mean by genetic _ storm.
Would anyone want to do a mock interview with me ?
govols comments on May 23, 2019:
What do you mean by mock interview? Playing the other idiot trying to figure out how to accomplish the technical aspects of pulling it off?
Where is Ruth? a honest Question deserves a honest answer, and a honest discussion, and I think a ...
govols comments on May 23, 2019:
You've posted on this theme a few times. Have you seen reporting that she hasn't been attending arguments or something?
[digitaltrends.com] Nasa thinks it may be able to cool Yellowstone in order to prevent it ever ...
govols comments on May 23, 2019:
I wonder if the National Aeronautics and Space Agency consulted with the team over at the US Geological Survey on this. Dumb asses.
Kushner replied 'on it!' after Manafort sought post for banker
govols comments on May 23, 2019:
So, are you calling out nepotism? Here? In America? Say it ain't so!
I joined this group for one reason. To learn from reasonable debate on any and all topics. My views ...
govols comments on May 23, 2019:
What's a 12 to 6 elbow?
With the metoo movement slowing down from its media peak, some new results of its reach are starting...
govols comments on May 23, 2019:
The only hope I can muster is that at least in the linked article they referred "sexualization of women's bodies" instead of the latest SJW fad leading them to the language of "sexualizing of Female Bodies" or some crap. No, there's no hope. We're doomed.
Aloha Atheists of IDW.!!!! It would appear I have inherited the august title of Originator of ...
govols comments on May 23, 2019:
We're in an audit today.
Something different.
govols comments on May 23, 2019:
Hard to tell...Is that paper swans on a stick? Looks cool...
The First Amendment of the United States Constitution was submitted 09/1789 and completed 12/1791, ...
govols comments on May 23, 2019:
Revised 1992?
What is you farvote pet? I like all animals. Horses all at the the number 1 spot for me. 😂
govols comments on May 22, 2019:
I've had a dog and hamsters. I feed birds. My outdoor spaces are infested with lizards. Cats show up and keep me. I don't have pets. I serve cats...
One Space or Two? Here's a quick answer for those who migrated from manual typewriters & IBM ...
govols comments on May 22, 2019:
Since you're here, I saw an article that credited one person with words, and another with style. Does that translated to piss poor writer X, edited by Y?
Very interesting.....
govols comments on May 22, 2019:
I don't get it. I'm guessing they're playing with 50 millions cells in a fetus, trying to get people to realize how quickly a baby develops. Bad play. That suggests a clump of cells rather than a unified individual living and growing human, being.
Yup [youtube.com]
govols comments on May 22, 2019:
Yup. (Maybe.)
First Amendment In the US we have the standard of “clear and present danger” in illegal ...
govols comments on May 22, 2019:
Ya know, most of this sort of thing is easier to deal with once one accepts that the constitutional powers of the legislature have been allowed by the courts to be delegated to the executive. The legislature has a constitutional power to issue letters of marque, the CIA is a quasi-private global information and tactical company, and the president is delegated the authority by congress to order reprisals.
Moral obligation under the us constitution [morallaw.org]
govols comments on May 22, 2019:
I have a hard time finding any moral obligation within the constitution. It is a legal rather than moral document.
@Admin or other group members. Does anyone know why I'd be listed as the originator of this group? I...
govols comments on May 22, 2019:
This is wonderfully comical.
Pro lifers are the biggest hypocrites. They say every life has value but fight any opion that leads ...
govols comments on May 22, 2019:
Pro-choice and pro-life are both rhetoric; both are phrases intended to conjure emotional responses. This is one of those topics that can't be resolved. The topic isn't abortion or choice. The topic is fundamentally the question of life itself. Is human life sacred? Is each human individual as sacred as the next? At what point is an embryo a human life? I don't see agreement being negotiated on those questions.
QUESTION: PERSON A IS VERY ABUSIVE TO PERSON B PERSON C KNOWS OF SAID ABUSE. NEVER IN 15 YEARS ...
govols comments on May 21, 2019:
Person B is responsible for her or his self. As is person A and C. Stand.
My Daughter's and dating.
govols comments on May 21, 2019:
LOL!
The Wave - YouTube
govols comments on May 21, 2019:
Okay, I'm 12 minutes in. This is messed up.
So yesterday, I sought out the Sam Harris and Jordan Peterson debate/conversation -hosted by Bret ...
govols comments on May 21, 2019:
These conversations are revolving around several broad ways of perceiving the world. Sam has this weird faith in human reason and the ability of science to eventually know the world well enough that we can reason our way to a moral truth that is almost physically real. Jordan and I disagree, I think in part because we both see that the human animal, given the reality of both bio- and psychological- diversity, a hell of a lot of us won't ever be able to pull off such a moral foundation intellectually. With Bret, the obvious reality that much off our moral landscape is adaptation, within both individuals and societies, to problems associated as much with the human-interaction-environment as with survival of the individual, community, and their offspring. I think Bret sees something I see. Jordan is right that the stories tell something important and that many people will need such stories as a short cut to reasoned ethic development. Sam is possibly right that universal ethical and moral thought might be able to enunciate the ideas better than ancient stories, but Bret and Jordan see a reality in which the only way such ideas could be widely disseminated and adopted would be through emotional (irrational) persuasion. There--a few thoughts to kick things off.
And now, for something completely different...
govols comments on May 21, 2019:
Reminded me of Ron White. "Roll em back up."
The name of the you tube channel is "Blue Collar Logic" - the content is always very well ...
govols comments on May 21, 2019:
There's some good stuff they've put together.
[quillette.com] The West is really bored, too much free time, whats next? and..... WHY? I ...
govols comments on May 21, 2019:
maybe some people should consider intimacy within a loving relationship
[gatestoneinstitute.org] Afghan War: Hope for Exit, No Hope for Peace Anyone with any ...
govols comments on May 21, 2019:
It's amazing how poorly the "west" managed the deconstruction of the empire era. The borders drawn seemingly with no regard for traditional lands and cultural cohesion is just crazy. I wonder if anyone understands just how messed up the whole region is.
I saw this article in Zero Hedge this morning and found it a bit alarming. Now I don't rent ...
govols comments on May 21, 2019:
This is crazy. I would be soooo pissed.
“Socialism is not only, or even principally, an economic doctrine: It is a revolt against human ...
govols comments on May 21, 2019:
This I believe. Much modern "science-base" policy is based on a mistaken idea the humans have no built-in nature.

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