Abortion is murder at anytime

Lightman comments on Feb 20, 2021:

2 cells do not a human make, nor 4 nor 8 nor is... so apart from the fact that scientists say life begins at conception... human life per se doesn't. You need to understand their concept or definition of life and human .

Lightman replies on Feb 21, 2021:

@Hanno Actually I don't... If the answer is there already or is as obvious as the nose on your face I see no reason to repeat myself. Not my fault you don't get the miscarriage argument. I do so do many others and I've never had to explain it to anyone before. And I don't know what "pronounce" has to do with anything.

Abortion is murder at anytime

Lightman comments on Feb 20, 2021:

2 cells do not a human make, nor 4 nor 8 nor is... so apart from the fact that scientists say life begins at conception... human life per se doesn't. You need to understand their concept or definition of life and human .

Lightman replies on Feb 21, 2021:

@Hanno I answered that already and it relates to miscarriage and murder. They cant call all abortions murder and not include miscarriage.

Abortion is murder at anytime

Lightman comments on Feb 20, 2021:

2 cells do not a human make, nor 4 nor 8 nor is... so apart from the fact that scientists say life begins at conception... human life per se doesn't. You need to understand their concept or definition of life and human .

Lightman replies on Feb 21, 2021:

@Hanno I note certain people avoiding addressing my questions. well let me once more make clear to them the one salient point here... The topic states "Abortion is murder at any time." I have addressed that. It is clearly incorrect. Murder BTW is... murder /ˈməːdə/ Learn to pronounce noun noun: murder; plural noun: murders 1.the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another. I note... Unlawful and human being... the main point I have patently made clear.

Why hasn't anti-Muslim sentiment gone down after the spike due to 9/11?

TheMiddleWay comments on Feb 20, 2021:

The Washington Post article from where that graph comes from makes it a point to state that Jews are the most targeted with hate crimes with Muslims being second. and if you look more closely, you'll see that other religions are in third place with anti-christian hate crimes coming in forth. Yet all...

Lightman replies on Feb 20, 2021:

@TheMiddleWay Doesn't it... when did Islamic terrorism start and when did it have a decided uptick... the tail doesn't wag the dog...

Why hasn't anti-Muslim sentiment gone down after the spike due to 9/11?

TheMiddleWay comments on Feb 20, 2021:

The Washington Post article from where that graph comes from makes it a point to state that Jews are the most targeted with hate crimes with Muslims being second. and if you look more closely, you'll see that other religions are in third place with anti-christian hate crimes coming in forth. Yet all...

Lightman replies on Feb 20, 2021:

@TheMiddleWay Not being a crt fan I actually look at it as people being killed. Innocent people. Does 9/11 ring a bell, ISIS... The war for the Caliphate, Bin Laden, Yemen, the list goes on and on and on and the deaths are in the thousands not just a handful or a hundred or so (over years) I never even mentioned Jews... As for scapegoats... scapegoat /ˈskeɪpɡəʊt/ Learn to pronounce noun noun: scapegoat; plural noun: scapegoats 1. a person who is blamed for the wrongdoings, mistakes, or faults of others, especially for reasons of expediency. I suggest many in the Muslim world, those we call Islamic radicals are not scapegoats. They would live among you just as they live amongst us. We have ethnic enclaves here and I can tell you first hand we had many "ordinary" Muslims dancing in the streets and proclaiming a victory over the US when 9/11 happened. Scapegoats? Not likely. We don't have white supremacist groups going around killing people here but hey we don't talk in colours like you people do. We have had many thwarted terrorist activities though and the occasional one where a few innocent people have been killed, but not by white supremacists. We have things like the Islamic Youth group who preach racial superiority and division etc, etc, etc... these were mainstream and right in front of us if only we cared to look. This is what Multiculturalism fosters.

Abortion is murder at anytime

Lightman comments on Feb 20, 2021:

2 cells do not a human make, nor 4 nor 8 nor is... so apart from the fact that scientists say life begins at conception... human life per se doesn't. You need to understand their concept or definition of life and human .

Lightman replies on Feb 20, 2021:

@Forra888 YOu were the first one here changing the argument to late term abortion... that was my point... that is moving the goalposts sunnyboy. So gee I guess my facts were right eh... I'm not angry hateful or ignorant... perhaps you need to stop looking in the mirror. Here's one for you. If one of your beautiful daughters was brutally raped and fell pregnant would you allow her to have an abortion or would you make her carry the result of that rape around in her for 9 months. Perhaps doing her permanent mental problems.

Why hasn't anti-Muslim sentiment gone down after the spike due to 9/11?

TheMiddleWay comments on Feb 20, 2021:

The Washington Post article from where that graph comes from makes it a point to state that Jews are the most targeted with hate crimes with Muslims being second. and if you look more closely, you'll see that other religions are in third place with anti-christian hate crimes coming in forth. Yet all...

Lightman replies on Feb 20, 2021:

Geez they are scapegoats eh... not that certain Islamic groups (Muslims) actually perpetrate terrorist acts etc?

As a conservative or right or republican, can you state something that progressives or the left or ...

Alysandir comments on Feb 19, 2021:

Speaking as a libertarian, I'll attempt to do both, along with what I believe each would say in response to the accusation. Progressives have the right of it when they say that conservatives do not care about the poor. I think the conservative response to that charge would be that it isn't ...

Lightman replies on Feb 20, 2021:

@Alysandir You have know idea who I am... only an egotistical fool would make that remark.

Abortion is murder at anytime

Lightman comments on Feb 20, 2021:

2 cells do not a human make, nor 4 nor 8 nor is... so apart from the fact that scientists say life begins at conception... human life per se doesn't. You need to understand their concept or definition of life and human .

Lightman replies on Feb 20, 2021:

@Shortstuff 2 cells are not a human etc, etc, etc... my point was the ridiculous arguments being used.

Abortion is murder at anytime

Lightman comments on Feb 20, 2021:

2 cells do not a human make, nor 4 nor 8 nor is... so apart from the fact that scientists say life begins at conception... human life per se doesn't. You need to understand their concept or definition of life and human .

Lightman replies on Feb 20, 2021:

@Forra888 LOL So now you move the goalposts to late term abortion. Personally I'm against it.

Abortion is murder at anytime

Lightman comments on Feb 20, 2021:

2 cells do not a human make, nor 4 nor 8 nor is... so apart from the fact that scientists say life begins at conception... human life per se doesn't. You need to understand their concept or definition of life and human .

Lightman replies on Feb 20, 2021:

@MassDebater, @Hanno Here is another opinion addressing your question. Why life does not begin at conception? No new life is formed — the egg and the sperm were already alive — and fertilization is not instantaneous. Nearly 48 hours pass from the time sperm first bind to the outside of the zona pellucida, the human eggshell, until the first cell division of the fertilized egg. Just for starters. Also there is no certainty that a fertilized egg will make it full term, through the embryo stage to the fetus stage and to the successful delivery of a baby. How far back would you like to take it... is masturbation by males a sin after all they simply waste their sperm and deny it a chance to fertilize and egg. What about deliberately taking contraception? Pregnancy doesn't start the day you have sex — it can take up to six days after sex for the sperm and egg to join and form a fertilized egg. Then, it can take three to four days for the fertilized egg to completely implant itself in the lining of the uterus. So is taking the "abortion" pill murder?

Abortion is murder at anytime

Lightman comments on Feb 20, 2021:

2 cells do not a human make, nor 4 nor 8 nor is... so apart from the fact that scientists say life begins at conception... human life per se doesn't. You need to understand their concept or definition of life and human .

Lightman replies on Feb 20, 2021:

@MassDebater I brought it up because anti-abortionists do not accept that they are 2 different things.

Abortion is murder at anytime

Lightman comments on Feb 20, 2021:

2 cells do not a human make, nor 4 nor 8 nor is... so apart from the fact that scientists say life begins at conception... human life per se doesn't. You need to understand their concept or definition of life and human .

Lightman replies on Feb 20, 2021:

@lnosbourne Not as such science is science facts are facts and politics is politics... for me politics doesn't enter into the abortion debate . Do you consider miscarriage murder ? It can , after all, occur anytime after conception Do you think a viable human has no brain and or no heart? These are not there at conception.

Abortion is murder at anytime

Lightman comments on Feb 20, 2021:

2 cells do not a human make, nor 4 nor 8 nor is... so apart from the fact that scientists say life begins at conception... human life per se doesn't. You need to understand their concept or definition of life and human .

Lightman replies on Feb 20, 2021:

@lnosbourne don't like the facts ? don't start the topic .

As a conservative or right or republican, can you state something that progressives or the left or ...

Alysandir comments on Feb 19, 2021:

Speaking as a libertarian, I'll attempt to do both, along with what I believe each would say in response to the accusation. Progressives have the right of it when they say that conservatives do not care about the poor. I think the conservative response to that charge would be that it isn't ...

Lightman replies on Feb 20, 2021:

@TheMiddleWay yawn kiddies.... ganging up again I see.... tsk tsk tsk...

As a conservative or right or republican, can you state something that progressives or the left or ...

Hanno comments on Feb 19, 2021:

To me the Achilles heel of the conservatives has always been religion, or rather the over dependence on it. And with that as Tracy stated, the right to marry whoever you want etc etc that contradict the main religions. Then I support a progressive wealth tax in exchange for a reduced or flat ...

Lightman replies on Feb 19, 2021:

@TheMiddleWay thanks for the hint... btw I am already looking into it. :-)

As a conservative or right or republican, can you state something that progressives or the left or ...

Hanno comments on Feb 19, 2021:

To me the Achilles heel of the conservatives has always been religion, or rather the over dependence on it. And with that as Tracy stated, the right to marry whoever you want etc etc that contradict the main religions. Then I support a progressive wealth tax in exchange for a reduced or flat ...

Lightman replies on Feb 19, 2021:

@TheMiddleWay It would see the Supreme court sees your democracy as secular. The separation of church and state is a legal and political principle which advocates derive from the First Amendment to the United States Constitution, which reads, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof". The phrase "separation of church and state", which does not appear in the Constitution itself, is generally traced to an 1802 letter by Thomas Jefferson to the Danbury Baptists, where Jefferson spoke of the combined effect of the Establishment Clause and the Free Exercise Clause of the First Amendment. It has since been quoted in several opinions handed down by the United States Supreme Court.

As a conservative or right or republican, can you state something that progressives or the left or ...

Alysandir comments on Feb 19, 2021:

Speaking as a libertarian, I'll attempt to do both, along with what I believe each would say in response to the accusation. Progressives have the right of it when they say that conservatives do not care about the poor. I think the conservative response to that charge would be that it isn't ...

Lightman replies on Feb 19, 2021:

@TheMiddleWay People can choose to be wrong if they like... I choose to be correct and consistent.

As a conservative or right or republican, can you state something that progressives or the left or ...

Hanno comments on Feb 19, 2021:

To me the Achilles heel of the conservatives has always been religion, or rather the over dependence on it. And with that as Tracy stated, the right to marry whoever you want etc etc that contradict the main religions. Then I support a progressive wealth tax in exchange for a reduced or flat ...

Lightman replies on Feb 19, 2021:

@TheMiddleWay Yes I am aware of that... most unsettling if you ask me. But I'd have thought in a country that pushes freedom and free speech that it would be a more secular democracy than a theocracy. BTW you don't have to be an atheist to believe in or live in a secular democracy. Oh and as for your assertion that evangelical Christians have taken over the "conservative movement" and the Republicans. We don't see it from here. Are you saying there are no Christians in the Democrats or they are simply not evangelicals? Just what is the proportion of evangelical christians in the US? 15% love the way you guys even break religions up into colours... that would be WHITE evangelicals... Hardly a majority eh. Even christians in general are simply about what 70%? My bet is many of them don't even vote these days.

As a conservative or right or republican, can you state something that progressives or the left or ...

wolfhnd comments on Feb 19, 2021:

As pointed out "right" is subjective, right for whom? For example who benefits from open borders and cheap imports if you think it is just the Globalists and Corporatists you would be wrong. The entire soft underbelly of society benefits. The lazy security fixated Millennials, the professional ...

Lightman replies on Feb 19, 2021:

@TheMiddleWay Progressive cannot tolerate dissent...

They will have to cheat again [youtu.be]

Lightman comments on Feb 19, 2021:

Will Trump run again? Only as an Independent if the Republicans don't endorse him. Will it happen? Who knows... (not if Romney or McConnell have their way) Either way, he will be doing Progressive Democrat heads in for the next 4 years either way.

Lightman replies on Feb 19, 2021:

@Forra888 Lost me there. All of who and cooperate about what?

They will have to cheat again [youtu.be]

Forra888 comments on Feb 19, 2021:

If we refer to him as "KIng Trump" This just might send the lefties and haters stir crazy and more stupid. lol.

Lightman replies on Feb 19, 2021:

More stupid? Is that possible?

As a conservative or right or republican, can you state something that progressives or the left or ...

wolfhnd comments on Feb 19, 2021:

As pointed out "right" is subjective, right for whom? For example who benefits from open borders and cheap imports if you think it is just the Globalists and Corporatists you would be wrong. The entire soft underbelly of society benefits. The lazy security fixated Millennials, the professional ...

Lightman replies on Feb 19, 2021:

@tracycoyle That is not what I said at all... but blind ideology is just plain stupidity.

Minimum wage is a crock [youtu.be]

Lightman comments on Feb 15, 2021:

If minimum wage is a crock then you won't mind working for a dollar and hour then eh...

Lightman replies on Feb 19, 2021:

@rway As I've explained... Australia has already proven you wrong. You simply choose to ignore facts put before you. lol... you certainly do have a one tracked mind don't you.

As a conservative or right or republican, can you state something that progressives or the left or ...

wolfhnd comments on Feb 19, 2021:

As pointed out "right" is subjective, right for whom? For example who benefits from open borders and cheap imports if you think it is just the Globalists and Corporatists you would be wrong. The entire soft underbelly of society benefits. The lazy security fixated Millennials, the professional ...

Lightman replies on Feb 19, 2021:

@TheMiddleWay Hardly anyone leans only 1 way or the other most people have a mix of political leanings according to the issue at hand. I am (like yourself apparently) Left leaning and Conservative, I tend to be socially Conservative and Economically more Left leaning. Progressivism and Woke thinking does not enter into my life. Except via external lunacy. People can be of the Left or of the Right and or Conservative/Progressive on either side, people who think and look at policies can be swinging voters... tribal voters IMO are just useless.

As a conservative or right or republican, can you state something that progressives or the left or ...

lnosbourne comments on Feb 19, 2021:

Leftists policies end up in disaster with the right of the population having to clean it up, basically politics in a nutshell. What drives the leftist mind is only God can answer. May be off topic but the divide is so big now anything the left wants is the opposite of the right mostly in spite and ...

Lightman replies on Feb 19, 2021:

Mostly in Australia that is the scenario... the Left come in and the Right cleanup after it. which is why the Conservative right spend the most time in government, by a long way.

As a conservative or right or republican, can you state something that progressives or the left or ...

Hanno comments on Feb 19, 2021:

To me the Achilles heel of the conservatives has always been religion, or rather the over dependence on it. And with that as Tracy stated, the right to marry whoever you want etc etc that contradict the main religions. Then I support a progressive wealth tax in exchange for a reduced or flat ...

Lightman replies on Feb 19, 2021:

Religion and politics are 2 different things. Conservatives can be atheists or humanists just as easily as they can be religious. Most support a secular form of Democracy. In Australia for example Catholics used to only support the socialist workers party... Labor. That hardly supports your theory.

As a conservative or right or republican, can you state something that progressives or the left or ...

Hanno comments on Feb 19, 2021:

I found this question difficult to answer. It is primarily because the whole political spectrum moved left the past 200 years. For example equal rights for all, originally a classical liberal concept is now a right wing concept and in the left it has been replaced with equity (equal outcomes ...

Lightman replies on Feb 19, 2021:

The political spectrum doesn't move... people move... If you allow children to be indoctrinated by the Progressive Left if you allow the media to become almost totally Progressive Left the outcome is inevitable.

As a conservative or right or republican, can you state something that progressives or the left or ...

Alysandir comments on Feb 19, 2021:

Speaking as a libertarian, I'll attempt to do both, along with what I believe each would say in response to the accusation. Progressives have the right of it when they say that conservatives do not care about the poor. I think the conservative response to that charge would be that it isn't ...

Lightman replies on Feb 19, 2021:

Conservatism is not pro-rich nor anti-poor. CONSERVATISM is: a political philosophy advocating the preservation of the best of the established order in society and opposing radical change, or simply change for its own sake. That is what a Conservative would say.

What To Do?? [creativedestructionmedia.com]

JacksonNought comments on Feb 19, 2021:

The coup failed. The Trump supporters stormed the Capitol, but the security was able to evacuate properly, and then most of the insurrectionists were more preoccupied with selfies and social media cred. Trump tried to extort votes, it didn't work. The coup is over, Biden is the president now.

Lightman replies on Feb 19, 2021:

There was no coup...

Minimum wage is a crock [youtu.be]

Lightman comments on Feb 15, 2021:

If minimum wage is a crock then you won't mind working for a dollar and hour then eh...

Lightman replies on Feb 19, 2021:

@rway https://www.fwc.gov.au/ You are ignorant apparently... even after I provided plenty of information. Note it is part of government not a bullshit bureaucratic Commission. so bugger off and stop wasting my time.

Minimum wage is a crock [youtu.be]

Lightman comments on Feb 15, 2021:

If minimum wage is a crock then you won't mind working for a dollar and hour then eh...

Lightman replies on Feb 19, 2021:

@rway don't waste my time... Obviously you will never agree or address the reality I posted.

Minimum wage is a crock [youtu.be]

Lightman comments on Feb 15, 2021:

If minimum wage is a crock then you won't mind working for a dollar and hour then eh...

Lightman replies on Feb 19, 2021:

@rway lol... do some research and look it up we have a "Fair Work Commission" Here's some help for you... The Fair Work Commission (FWC), until 2013 known as Fair Work Australia (FWA) is the Australian industrial relations tribunal created by the Fair Work Act 2009 as part of the Rudd Government's reforms to industrial relations in Australia. Operations commenced on 1 July 2009. It is the successor of the Australian Industrial Relations Commission, and also performs functions previously performed by the Workplace Authority and the Australian Fair Pay Commission. Since March 2012, Iain JK Ross has been the President of FWC, and Bernadette O'Neill is its current General Manager. As of 29 May 2019, it operates under the portfolio of the Australian Attorney-General, the Hon. Christian Porter MP. FWC's functions include the setting and varying industrial awards, minimum wage fixation, dispute resolution, the approval of enterprise agreements, and handling claims for unfair dismissal.

The Texas deep freeze fiasco shows the folly of throwing money at green energy.

Lightman comments on Feb 19, 2021:

Global warming is a scam and you can blame Al Gore for it .

Lightman replies on Feb 19, 2021:

@GeeMac Exactly and the IPCC in its original documentation points this out... unfortunately it seems to have disappeared from the Internet.

Unity !!! [youtu.be]

Lightman comments on Feb 18, 2021:

Obviously Don Lamond is a total jerk.

Lightman replies on Feb 19, 2021:

@Serg97 Like I said... a total jerk.

Minimum wage is a crock [youtu.be]

Lightman comments on Feb 15, 2021:

If minimum wage is a crock then you won't mind working for a dollar and hour then eh...

Lightman replies on Feb 19, 2021:

@rway Australia has proof that it does . Your continual obfuscation does nothing to disprove it.

Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation Says Math, Showing Your Work, Correct Answers Are Racist As Bill...

DrHiebert comments on Feb 18, 2021:

These two are not good for our world

Lightman replies on Feb 18, 2021:

Prove it with some actual facts...

Is a multi-cultural society a good thing?

KeithThroop comments on Feb 18, 2021:

I agree with Theodore Roosevelt, who famously said that, “There can be no fifty-fifty Americanism in this country. There is room here for only 100% Americanism, only for those who are Americans and nothing else.” The article below helps to bring out some of what he meant, and it helps to explain...

Lightman replies on Feb 18, 2021:

Go Teddy, pity there aren't more of them in the world today.

Minimum wage is a crock [youtu.be]

Lightman comments on Feb 15, 2021:

If minimum wage is a crock then you won't mind working for a dollar and hour then eh...

Lightman replies on Feb 18, 2021:

@rway Because it works and is fair.

Is a multi-cultural society a good thing?

Lightman comments on Feb 18, 2021:

Oh dear still cant paste

Lightman replies on Feb 18, 2021:

Here is the article I tried to paste on Australian Multiculturalism... Popular Support Not Required Michael Warby Adelaide Review 1st December, 2000 Some questions to test your understanding of recent Australian history: which was the first major Australian political party to adopt multiculturalism as official policy? Who was the first Federal politician to refer to multiculturalism in Parliament? Who was the second? Which Federal Government was the first to make multiculturalism public policy? When did multiculturalism achieve the support of a majority of Australians? The answers are the Liberal Party, Malcom Fraser when Liberal Immigration spokesman, Michael Mackellar his successor as Liberal Immigration spokesman, the Fraser Government and not before the mid 1990s. These are some of the fascinating facts in Mark Lopez's masterful study of how multiculturalism came to be adopted as a basic principle of public policy in Australia. The Origins of Multiculturalism in Australian Politics 1945-1975 (Melbourne University Press) is a wonderful case study of the public policy process in Australia---the real one, not the banally formal or the stupidly conspiratorial versions sometimes presented. To me, as an ex-public servant, former political activist and someone involved in advocacy work, Mark Lopez's presentation of the ins and outs of the process of the rise of multiculturalism all ring true. Apart from careful diligence in the use of evidence, the prime source of Mark Lopez's achievement seems to be his use of interviews with all the key participants supported by careful examination of the documentary evidence. While Lopez never actually suggests anything of the sort, one does get the sense that many of the key participants were only too willing to talk about how clever they were. What Lopez tells is a fascinating story, the story of how a small number of activists---of a variety of ethnic backgrounds, including Anglo-Celtic---sought to change public policy. They did so not by convincing the general public and using the pressures of mass electoral politics---as late as 1994, an opinion poll recorded 61% disapproval for multicultural ideas (what one wit has called the demand that residents adapt to newcomers). What the activists did instead is follow classic techniques of elite and pressure-point politics. They wrote papers (many were academics), they formed committees and organisations, they got into advisory structures, they tried to determine the wording of official reports and speeches, they lobbied key politicians. Ironically, much of this activity, particularly after the election of the Whitlam Government in December 1972, was directed towards the ALP. Most of the multiculturalists came from New Left or other progressivist backgrounds and ...

Is a multi-cultural society a good thing?

SpikeTalon comments on Feb 2, 2021:

I'm skeptical that there will ever be a unifying culture in the US. The culture wars are just heating up...

Lightman replies on Feb 18, 2021:

Multiculti simply allows others to invade the country with their own culture and national values, not adopt integrate or assimilate.

Is a multi-cultural society a good thing?

sqeptiq comments on Feb 18, 2021:

As diversity increases, American society will grow more rancorous.

Lightman replies on Feb 18, 2021:

Diversity simply increases division.

Minimum wage is a crock [youtu.be]

Lightman comments on Feb 15, 2021:

If minimum wage is a crock then you won't mind working for a dollar and hour then eh...

Lightman replies on Feb 18, 2021:

@rway But you can legislate a minimum wage and set up a "tribunal" to monitor it as we have in australia.

Does teaching "white guilt" also cultivate a "white pride" backlash?

TheMiddleWay comments on Feb 17, 2021:

To me, ***minority pride comes from achievements gained despite obstacles placed upon them by the majority.*** *Black pride* comes from achievements gained despite slavery, jim crow, and racism from a non-black majority, i.e. whites. *Gay pride* comes from achievements gained despite sexism, ...

Lightman replies on Feb 18, 2021:

@TheMiddleWay And what is happening today? Stop cherry picking and address the reality... To my way of thinking... PRIDE... is a very over-rated thing. Here in Australia we don't have the American culture, we don't put people up on pedestals, those that do we ignore . We have what is known as the tall poppy syndrome... look it up. We have a tendency towards humility not Pride and we respect quiet achievers unlike the US. We also don't talk in colours as those in the US seem to have a habit of.

Does teaching "white guilt" also cultivate a "white pride" backlash?

saramarylop3z comments on Feb 17, 2021:

Expressing pride in the accomplishments of our ancestors, regardless of race, is completely justifiable imo, as well as should be encouraged rather than dismissed based on racism, sexism, bigotry, etc. Everything in our history, the good, the bad, and the ugly, helped shape where we are today. I...

Lightman replies on Feb 18, 2021:

"I can't speak for all white people, but I don't see the same levels of abuse towards white people that would give way to a widely accepted white uprising. " Perhaps you need to study a society where "white" people are in the minority then. What is it the Chinese call foreigners? What has happened in South Africa and Zimbabwe? There are examples all over the world.

Minimum wage is a crock [youtu.be]

Lightman comments on Feb 15, 2021:

If minimum wage is a crock then you won't mind working for a dollar and hour then eh...

Lightman replies on Feb 18, 2021:

@rway Because it may not be considered the minimum .. .

Does teaching "white guilt" also cultivate a "white pride" backlash?

TheMiddleWay comments on Feb 17, 2021:

To me, ***minority pride comes from achievements gained despite obstacles placed upon them by the majority.*** *Black pride* comes from achievements gained despite slavery, jim crow, and racism from a non-black majority, i.e. whites. *Gay pride* comes from achievements gained despite sexism, ...

Lightman replies on Feb 17, 2021:

PRIDE cometh before a fall...

Does teaching "white guilt" also cultivate a "white pride" backlash?

Lightman comments on Feb 17, 2021:

Some people are just obsessed with race... I have no idea why .

Lightman replies on Feb 17, 2021:

It's not like you have a choice in it .

I am not sure if I have this quote right but, it reminds me of how those on the Politically Right ...

Lightman comments on Feb 16, 2021:

LOL... you are kidding right?

Lightman replies on Feb 17, 2021:

@Skkaarj I was referring to the quote you mentioned. BTW there are trolls and people with closed minds on the Right and Left as well as the Conservative and Progressive sides of politics... that would be 4 sides not 2. You can be Left or Right and a Progressive or a Conservative LWP LWC RWP RWC Most people I know are very even handed and not fringe dwellers or trolls.

Minimum wage is a crock [youtu.be]

Lightman comments on Feb 15, 2021:

If minimum wage is a crock then you won't mind working for a dollar and hour then eh...

Lightman replies on Feb 17, 2021:

@rway Ah nothing is inevitable except maybe the sun going Super Nova eventually. we are discussing a minimum wage btw I did not specify a "Living wage" which is something slightly different... I suggested a "living" wage ie the minimum wage you can live on. Oh and to that other guy with the slogans... welfare is not communism. Look it up.

Minimum wage is a crock [youtu.be]

Lightman comments on Feb 15, 2021:

If minimum wage is a crock then you won't mind working for a dollar and hour then eh...

Lightman replies on Feb 16, 2021:

@rway No one suggested "continually" ratcheting up anything. The idea of a "living" wage or a "minimum" wage is hardly self-serving or cruel. It is called welfare in many countries.

Minimum wage is a crock [youtu.be]

Lightman comments on Feb 15, 2021:

If minimum wage is a crock then you won't mind working for a dollar and hour then eh...

Lightman replies on Feb 15, 2021:

@rway Ah I read your "yeah" as being conditional. I wouldn't accept work for $1 an hour... unless that was the average wage and cost of living was very low. BTW we have awards and minimum wages in Australia... it works very well.

Minimum wage is a crock [youtu.be]

Lightman comments on Feb 15, 2021:

If minimum wage is a crock then you won't mind working for a dollar and hour then eh...

Lightman replies on Feb 15, 2021:

@rway LOL if you are so inept and unqualified for a job... guess what... you probably won't pass the interview or get the job. Your argument is moot. So to my question... would you work for a dollar and hour?

WHO runs cover for China’s deadly Covid deceptions Jennifer Oriel February 15, 2021 The ...

Alysandir comments on Feb 14, 2021:

I would suggest that the WHO - much like many companies and organizations - sees China as the future world leader. Do I think that they are in China's pocket? No...at least not any more or less than companies like the NBA and Disney, who make conscious decisions about how to promote their product ...

Lightman replies on Feb 15, 2021:

@Alysandir yawn... You are just a legend in your own mind aren't you. first off your initial post was unclear. Secondly to be in one's pocket does not mean "own" "To be under one's control or influence, especially in an underhanded or unethical way, such as by bribery or extortion. It's pretty obvious that our national legislators are all in the corporate bigwigs' pockets!" But hey you are the font of all wisdom what would we mere mortals know eh?

The revenge plan [youtu.be]

Rick-A comments on Feb 14, 2021:

Mean as hell! Her face is the face a Satan.

Lightman replies on Feb 15, 2021:

@JobyOneKenobi :-)

WHO runs cover for China’s deadly Covid deceptions Jennifer Oriel February 15, 2021 The ...

Alysandir comments on Feb 14, 2021:

I would suggest that the WHO - much like many companies and organizations - sees China as the future world leader. Do I think that they are in China's pocket? No...at least not any more or less than companies like the NBA and Disney, who make conscious decisions about how to promote their product ...

Lightman replies on Feb 15, 2021:

@Alysandir LOL and you wonder why you think people cant have a conversation with you... The WHO are supposed to be impartial and independent. They are supposed to have free and fair access to all information they require. Not happening.

WHO runs cover for China’s deadly Covid deceptions Jennifer Oriel February 15, 2021 The ...

Alysandir comments on Feb 14, 2021:

I would suggest that the WHO - much like many companies and organizations - sees China as the future world leader. Do I think that they are in China's pocket? No...at least not any more or less than companies like the NBA and Disney, who make conscious decisions about how to promote their product ...

Lightman replies on Feb 14, 2021:

@Alysandir Did I say "own" no... Seems to me you are being a bit too pedantic. Not being American, I don't have a US bias BTW.

WHO runs cover for China’s deadly Covid deceptions Jennifer Oriel February 15, 2021 The ...

Alysandir comments on Feb 14, 2021:

I would suggest that the WHO - much like many companies and organizations - sees China as the future world leader. Do I think that they are in China's pocket? No...at least not any more or less than companies like the NBA and Disney, who make conscious decisions about how to promote their product ...

Lightman replies on Feb 14, 2021:

You don't think there is an unnatural closeness? You don't think that China's financing of the WHO influences them? The fact that the head of the investigating team espoused the CCP line even though other members questioned this doesn't give you doubts?

How the Trump Administration Permanently Transformed U.

Lightman comments on Feb 13, 2021:

good grief I hate this paste crap going on here...

Lightman replies on Feb 14, 2021:

@Krunoslav Oh dear and the name calling continues... well this stubborn old man apparently isn't as gullible or stupid as you and apparently he knows more as well. I posted my opinion, and I will not post page after page of proof for someone who will just deny it. You are already ignoring the pertinent fact I posted twice that for 40 years none of the conspiranut claims have come true. Stop wasting my time. The proof is there for all to see. I suggest you open your eyes.

How the Trump Administration Permanently Transformed U.

Lightman comments on Feb 13, 2021:

good grief I hate this paste crap going on here...

Lightman replies on Feb 14, 2021:

@Krunoslav I made my point... you don't believe anything I tell you... I'm not wasting my time... more than I already have. 40 years of conspiracy rubbish and you tell me I'm wrong ROTFLMAO

How the Trump Administration Permanently Transformed U.

Lightman comments on Feb 13, 2021:

good grief I hate this paste crap going on here...

Lightman replies on Feb 14, 2021:

@Krunoslav Look in the mirror you may just see I'm actually right.

How the Trump Administration Permanently Transformed U.

Lightman comments on Feb 13, 2021:

good grief I hate this paste crap going on here...

Lightman replies on Feb 14, 2021:

@Krunoslav China is the CCP try calling someone else names it has no affect on me. I knew about the Trilateral Commission long before you mentioned it here I know a lot about Conspiranut garbage. It's rubbish, just like the Freemasonry rubbish,the Bilderberg Group, the Protocols of Zion, the Hollow Earth, the Frankfurt School, Fluoridation, Vaccination, Chemtrails, No man on the moon, Weather Control, Reptilian elite, 9/11 an inside job, Jews control the world, the Club of Rome.... honestly I looked into the TC way back in the 70's when I looked up the Club of Rome and the Bilderberg group. None of the conspiracy theories involving these groups have ever come to pass. Not in over 40 years...

How the Trump Administration Permanently Transformed U.

Lightman comments on Feb 13, 2021:

good grief I hate this paste crap going on here...

Lightman replies on Feb 14, 2021:

@Krunoslav Don't blame the rest of the world for China's bad behaviour and need for world domination. Oh and puhlease don't start on the Trilateral Commission conspiracy rubbish ok.

How the Trump Administration Permanently Transformed U.

Lightman comments on Feb 13, 2021:

good grief I hate this paste crap going on here...

Lightman replies on Feb 13, 2021:

Tonight, we sit down with Miles Yu, who served as Senior China Policy Adviser to Mike Pompeo when he was Secretary of State. While many today still harbor illusions about the Chinese regime, the CCP seeks to “replace the US-led international order with its own authoritarian model of governance,” Yu says. And “their internal designation of the United States as chief adversary has never changed.” there... pasted... why couldn't I paste it above hmmm? If you want to know the truth about China the main sentence describes their aspirations and goal perfectly. the CCP seeks to “replace the US-led international order with its own authoritarian model of governance,” They have been using the UN and other globalist bodies for years to achieve this goal.

Time To Get Rid of Mitch McConnell "There's no question — none — that President Trump is ...

Lightman comments on Feb 13, 2021:

Said this ages ago.... Mitch should join the Democrats.

Lightman replies on Feb 13, 2021:

DITCH MITCH? Oh yeah...

What the hell is wrong with this country??

Alysandir comments on Feb 12, 2021:

Do you want it in alphabetical or chronological order? If nothing else, this has been an interesting case study about exactly how much the people who claim to be the protectors of the Constitution and our civil liberties, actually care about us and what we think. How quickly our high-minded ...

Lightman replies on Feb 12, 2021:

the Pandemic will pass... (no thanks to China of course) But the Progressive mindset will not be eradicated so easily.

Dunn v.

Eric123 comments on Feb 12, 2021:

Capital punishment is abhorrent. The U.S. has a violet culture. maybe a good start would be if U.S. movie industry and media stopped normalizing violence.

Lightman replies on Feb 12, 2021:

@Eric123 oops... :-)

The presentation [youtu.be]

Lightman comments on Feb 12, 2021:

Trump defense destroys the Dems... yep, pity it is only metaphorically. Pelosi and her followers need to go after this farce.

Lightman replies on Feb 12, 2021:

The Democrat supporters are hiding from this... they should hang their heads in shame... SHAME DEMOCRATS SHAME.

China refuses to give WHO raw data on early COVID-19 cases By Jeremy Page and Drew Hinshaw ...

Lightman comments on Feb 12, 2021:

hmmm still no ability to paste

Lightman replies on Feb 12, 2021:

@wolfhnd will give it a go... never had to do it before just started about a month back.

China refuses to give WHO raw data on early COVID-19 cases By Jeremy Page and Drew Hinshaw ...

Alysandir comments on Feb 12, 2021:

No idea what this poll is about. China is a major international power; OF COURSE it's a threat to the world. Hell, France is a threat to the world by virtue of being a nuclear power. So what are we really discussing here? China's massive COVID cover-up? Their massive pollution problem? The fact ...

Lightman replies on Feb 12, 2021:

@wolfhnd Oh they can be hypocrites without realising it... I doubt they understand the consequences of most things they do.

China refuses to give WHO raw data on early COVID-19 cases By Jeremy Page and Drew Hinshaw ...

Alysandir comments on Feb 12, 2021:

No idea what this poll is about. China is a major international power; OF COURSE it's a threat to the world. Hell, France is a threat to the world by virtue of being a nuclear power. So what are we really discussing here? China's massive COVID cover-up? Their massive pollution problem? The fact ...

Lightman replies on Feb 12, 2021:

@Alysandir, @wolfhnd You are forgetting the overwhelming hypocrisy of the Progressive Left there W.

China refuses to give WHO raw data on early COVID-19 cases By Jeremy Page and Drew Hinshaw ...

Alysandir comments on Feb 12, 2021:

No idea what this poll is about. China is a major international power; OF COURSE it's a threat to the world. Hell, France is a threat to the world by virtue of being a nuclear power. So what are we really discussing here? China's massive COVID cover-up? Their massive pollution problem? The fact ...

Lightman replies on Feb 12, 2021:

@Alysandir ah no... I don't assume what people will answer. I simply asked a question.

China refuses to give WHO raw data on early COVID-19 cases By Jeremy Page and Drew Hinshaw ...

Alysandir comments on Feb 12, 2021:

No idea what this poll is about. China is a major international power; OF COURSE it's a threat to the world. Hell, France is a threat to the world by virtue of being a nuclear power. So what are we really discussing here? China's massive COVID cover-up? Their massive pollution problem? The fact ...

Lightman replies on Feb 12, 2021:

Yeah pick one its a poll... the article is more important than the poll ya know. Here's one for you... Pandemic... China changed an epidemic into a Pandemic.. deliberately. P.S. I think you'll find the article is about China and Covid.

China refuses to give WHO raw data on early COVID-19 cases By Jeremy Page and Drew Hinshaw ...

iThink comments on Feb 12, 2021:

Any Communist dictatorship obviously presents an implicit if not explicit threat to the security of the rest of the world. China is the biggest and most powerful Communist Dictatorship today in terms of economic, technological and military capabilities. USA (and India and well, every other nation) ...

Lightman replies on Feb 12, 2021:

Barme stresses the continuity of CCP thinking: “Xi says today we will never forget our original intent. The party has an incredibly integrated and elaborate theory. Xi integrated this theory in the context of China’s global position and role. The media cannot be oppositional, the party must control everything. It’s terrifying stuff and unbelievably boring. They want to eliminate humanity from the human race. It’s a war against all human spirituality.” One of the biggest changes of today, Barme says, is that “they seem so assured of power that they don’t need to make practical concessions any more”. This is difficult for Western policymakers and intellectuals to understand, Barme says, because to enter into the mind of the Chinese Communist Party “demands a different way of ordering reality”.

China refuses to give WHO raw data on early COVID-19 cases By Jeremy Page and Drew Hinshaw ...

iThink comments on Feb 12, 2021:

story seems incongruent. For a while there it looked like the W H O and CDC and the politicians in USA were protecting China or hiding the truth about China re the COVID 19. Now W H O is claiming that China is hiding info from them? My skeptical distrusting mind tells me they are playing a shell ...

Lightman replies on Feb 12, 2021:

We call it "2 bob each way"

China refuses to give WHO raw data on early COVID-19 cases By Jeremy Page and Drew Hinshaw ...

Lightman comments on Feb 12, 2021:

hmmm still no ability to paste

Lightman replies on Feb 12, 2021:

Dennis Richardson, a former head of the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade and a former Australian ambassador to Washington, tells Inquirer: “China is now far more ideological. The way they’ve handled the COVID-19 matter should make people worry. This is a classic authoritarian power response, which simply tells lies. Within those constraints, it still makes sense that you try to have the most constructive relationship that you can.” but I can as a reply :-(

[youtube.com] Well worth listening to

Naomi comments on Feb 11, 2021:

Hello. Don't forget Bret Weinstein; he describes himself as progressive and he is far from demented. Lol!

Lightman replies on Feb 12, 2021:

@Naomi You need to find more than one person who thinks he's a Progressive. for interest Just what Progressive policies does he support?

[youtube.com] Well worth listening to

Naomi comments on Feb 11, 2021:

Hello. Don't forget Bret Weinstein; he describes himself as progressive and he is far from demented. Lol!

Lightman replies on Feb 11, 2021:

@Naomi Well you said he's a Progressive and I think that proves my point.

[youtube.com] Well worth listening to

Naomi comments on Feb 11, 2021:

Hello. Don't forget Bret Weinstein; he describes himself as progressive and he is far from demented. Lol!

Lightman replies on Feb 11, 2021:

who?

[youtube.com] Well worth listening to

RitBorg comments on Feb 11, 2021:

Demented no, misinformed, yes. They honestly believe (as many across the world in more than a dozen nations have) that their policies will bring about the Utopia. Much like teenagers (who think they know everything) experience is a great teacher, they just don’t have any experience with the ...

Lightman replies on Feb 11, 2021:

Oh I think they are more than just misinformed. People when confronted by irrefutable truth usually tend to agree or change their mind... not Progressives... Progressives cannot tolerate dissent.

This from the head of the capital hill police.

rway comments on Feb 11, 2021:

She's not delusional. She knows full-well that she's full of shit. (although... I picked "not sure" because she seems to be losing it lately...) Her peers know it too, but apparently she raises more money than the other Democrats; so they keep her around like the rich Aunt that everybody hates. ...

Lightman replies on Feb 11, 2021:

Lately...? try for at least the last 4 years...

Today February 10, 2021 – My brother said that President Trump is guilty of what happened on ...

TyKC comments on Feb 10, 2021:

Not true. Both Gore and Clinton conceded. Trump never did. That's the difference whether you like it or not.

Lightman replies on Feb 11, 2021:

@TyKC Like I said I told the truth now you are lying... go away... altering stuff will not make you right. Did she tell him not to concede or not? Yes she did. As for the rest you keep proving me right there too... you keep shooting yourself in the foot.

CrazyNancy & the RevengeMOB Former Capitol Police Chief Blows Hole in Dems Case Against Trump.

SpikeTalon comments on Feb 11, 2021:

The Dems assume too much on that.

Lightman replies on Feb 11, 2021:

@SpikeTalon Been that way for a while now.

CrazyNancy & the RevengeMOB Former Capitol Police Chief Blows Hole in Dems Case Against Trump.

SpikeTalon comments on Feb 11, 2021:

The Dems assume too much on that.

Lightman replies on Feb 11, 2021:

This from the head of the capital hill police... The timing of the breach, 12:52 PM, is notable because President Trump did not conclude his speech until about 1:13 PM, making it impossible that the group that breached the Capitol did so under the former president’s direction. The fact that President Trump’s speech was given about 20-30 minutes’ walking distance from the Capitol makes it even less likely that his words caused the insurrection. Pelosi has this information yet she carried on with her obsessive juvenile impeachment. For some reason these days I cannot cut and paste information as an original post only as a reply

Doctors Around the World Issue Dire WARNING: “DO NOT GET THE COV!D VA((INE” – THE SILENT WAR ...

Lightman comments on Feb 10, 2021:

Is this an anti-vaxxer thing?

Lightman replies on Feb 11, 2021:

@Tati Sounds like it

Today February 10, 2021 – My brother said that President Trump is guilty of what happened on ...

TyKC comments on Feb 10, 2021:

Not true. Both Gore and Clinton conceded. Trump never did. That's the difference whether you like it or not.

Lightman replies on Feb 10, 2021:

@TyKC I didn't change anything just told the truth... which you still cherry pick

Equality, Democracy and Freedom are subversive concepts. [youtu.be]

Lightman comments on Feb 10, 2021:

"All men are created equal" is patently wrong. It's a nice thought, but it is wrong.

Lightman replies on Feb 10, 2021:

Oh and... A legacy of the Age of Enlightenment, the motto "Liberté, Egalité, Fraternité" first appeared during the French Revolution. Although it was often called into question, it finally established itself under the Third Republic. for those not French speaking... “Liberty, Equality, Fraternity”

I see that the Australian Government has accepted the WHO stance that Covid did not come from the ...

Lightman comments on Feb 10, 2021:

Why do you post lies about the government?

Lightman replies on Feb 10, 2021:

@Eric123 From the article... In an interview on Nine’s Today program, the host Karl Stefanovic told the health minister that “everyone thinks this is a cover-up”. Hunt responded that he would await the final report. “At the end of the day, they have to do their work, we get on and do our work,” Hunt said. And.... it doesn't say in the article anywhere that Morrison said anything like your claim. Happy to correct you.

I see that the Australian Government has accepted the WHO stance that Covid did not come from the ...

Lightman comments on Feb 10, 2021:

Why do you post lies about the government?

Lightman replies on Feb 10, 2021:

@Eric123 The Guardian is a LW rag and I read it it doesn't say what you said. BTW Morrison and Hunt do not make up a Government.

What do Liberal activists believe Conservatives believe?

saramarylop3z comments on Feb 10, 2021:

I don't think many liberals understand how conservatives think, but to be fair, many conservatives don't understand how liberals think. (Myself included) My personal perception of politics, on both sides, is that it's become very stigmatic. Unfortunately, the loudest extremists on both sides have...

Lightman replies on Feb 10, 2021:

Some would say they don't think... they feel....

Today February 10, 2021 – My brother said that President Trump is guilty of what happened on ...

Alysandir comments on Feb 10, 2021:

Not to sound like a broken record, but we live in the Era of Perception. It is only necessary that enough people perceive something to be true, for it to be true. This is why there isn't any common ground to be found between the political poles, because no one can agree on what is factual any more.

Lightman replies on Feb 10, 2021:

@turnerjolene48 Well they do have the benefit of having most of the media and most big tech companies on their side...

Today February 10, 2021 – My brother said that President Trump is guilty of what happened on ...

TyKC comments on Feb 10, 2021:

Not true. Both Gore and Clinton conceded. Trump never did. That's the difference whether you like it or not.

Lightman replies on Feb 10, 2021:

Clinton told Biden to never concede... Clinton still feels she was robbed by Russians.

Keeping it real.

WayneHawthorne comments on Feb 10, 2021:

And she said: "Catch me if you can."

Lightman replies on Feb 10, 2021:

And Ben Johnson caught her in 3 seconds flat.

I see that the Australian Government has accepted the WHO stance that Covid did not come from the ...

Lightman comments on Feb 10, 2021:

The government has debunked and rejected the frozen food claim. The government also has not accepted the who finding re the lab at all, not yet. Greg hunt has accepted the who claim and Tim Wilson hasn't... I suggest there are many opinions within the government on this.

Lightman replies on Feb 10, 2021:

The Victorian Liberal party MP Tim Wilson told Sky News: “The WHO’s credibility is on the line, based on the report they’ve produced, where it should be impartial, provide the facts and evidence, so that we know the origins of Covid-19 and the pandemic that has brought the world to a standstill, rather than seeking to hide or suppress information.”

Feminism apparently makes up problems where there shouldn't be any while at the same time it manages...

Lightman comments on Feb 9, 2021:

The Blessed Virgin Mary? You lost me right there. Not a Catholic and I believe in secular democracy. I personally don't see "Mary" as the model for a modern woman to live. I also don't pray to "Mary" you know **Idolatry** and all that.

Lightman replies on Feb 10, 2021:

@Krunoslav I suggest you go listen to what she said yet again. After all that is what I addressed. BTW never assume... Also I never mentioned a particular religious belief. I simply addressed what she said. Also I think you will find my comments on Mary and Catholicism are accurate.

Feminism apparently makes up problems where there shouldn't be any while at the same time it manages...

Lightman comments on Feb 9, 2021:

The Blessed Virgin Mary? You lost me right there. Not a Catholic and I believe in secular democracy. I personally don't see "Mary" as the model for a modern woman to live. I also don't pray to "Mary" you know **Idolatry** and all that.

Lightman replies on Feb 10, 2021:

@Krunoslav BTW I was referring to the opening statement by the first woman.

Feminism apparently makes up problems where there shouldn't be any while at the same time it manages...

Lightman comments on Feb 9, 2021:

The Blessed Virgin Mary? You lost me right there. Not a Catholic and I believe in secular democracy. I personally don't see "Mary" as the model for a modern woman to live. I also don't pray to "Mary" you know **Idolatry** and all that.

Lightman replies on Feb 10, 2021:

@Krunoslav Me insecure? ROTFLMAO Mary? Give me a break Also I never said it was about me. You read some weird things into stuff. Also I never said anything led to a secular democracy.

What do Liberal activists believe Conservatives believe?

SpikeTalon comments on Feb 9, 2021:

Especially the free speech and gun rights points. A good portion of those on the left do believe that the right enjoys free speech strictly to offend or harass others verbally without facing any consequences, and that's not why those on the right think free speech is important in civilized society. ...

Lightman replies on Feb 10, 2021:

@SpikeTalon You'd be surprised then how many here don't... they think that RW is Conservative whereas a Conservative can be either wing, just as a Progressive can.

What do Liberal activists believe Conservatives believe?

TheMiddleWay comments on Feb 9, 2021:

I think liberals understand perfectly well how conservatives that label them "communists" or "libtards" think. I think conservatives understand perfectly well how liberals that label them "trumptards" or " fascists" think. That's because when you view the other side as a stereotype, as a cartoon,...

Lightman replies on Feb 9, 2021:

I think you need to have a good lie down.

so apparently there is this new revolutionary mask that kills the rona.

Lightman comments on Feb 9, 2021:

Are you sure you got it right? seems to me your pulling our leg or someone is pulling yours. BTW this would be global news if it was real... so far not a peep...

Lightman replies on Feb 9, 2021:

@Joehlert11 so it is not on the market yet...