Sorry @Tom81 for any confusion i caused. I was trying to be sarcastic and i never intentionally troll, and i of course realize that my proposal will not be implemented.

But my proposal was only to apply to firms with a large capitalization or that use the H1B system.

And i doubt it would annihilate Facebook or Google, let alone "capitalism" .

My own opinion is that allowing tech billionaires to censor speech (as Facebook, Google, and Apple do) outweighs whatever marginal benefit they have to the economy, so even if it did give them an involuntary downsizing, it might be a net plus.

As to breadlines, poverty, and starvation, well, thanks to our current policies (supported by our plutocrats), we have greatly reduced manufacturing capacity. So we're already on our way

@TheMiddleWay Because this would be considered discrimination based on race, and it's illegal.

@TheMiddleWay Why should the white person be penalized for something that didn't happen to the black person in the past, and wasn't done by the white person?

@TheMiddleWay In my many years of interviewing people, I've never met any two candidates that were exactly alike. However, under such a theoretical scenario, I would argue that giving preferential treatment to blacks over whites (all things being 'equal' does indeed violate the law. I'm not sure about your quote above (no reference to follow-up on ‍).

Be that as it may, I also don't recall any business owner that took a racist position when it came to hiring. We all knew that not hiring a qualified candidate because of race was a sure fire way to lose business to your competition when that candidate was ultimately hired there.

@ktpinto I agree --- you shouldn't be penalized for something you didn't do. But if the law were targeted correctly, it would only "penalize" large corporations that publicly decry systemic racism, and not the common person. Systemic racism may very well exist, but the owners of the system are the owners of Google, Apple, Facebook, and similar monopolistic or quasi-monopolistic behemoths. So any giant corporation, say with a capitalization over $20 billion, should be required to hire the correct percentage of minorities (including undocumented aliens in sanctuary states) as engineers, lawyers, and top-level executives. If the new hires need training, then they can provide it, selling assets, if needed, to finance this program.

Seems like a win-win proposition to me.

@TheMiddleWay Thanks for the source. The link, however, leads to a wall of text that I'm not about to read. Instead, let's just assume your statement is true. The latter half strikes me as irrelevant, since no one files a federal lawsuit claiming they were "discriminated FOR" in getting the job because of their race. Rather, the race of the person who did NOT get the job would be highlighted, and they could file the discrimination claim.

@TheMiddleWay And there's the problem: our pasts aren't collective. My family only came here 100 years ago from an empire that doesn't exist anymore, and they were poor and they worked their butts off to get to the point we're at. They had nothing to do with slaves or slavery. Why should their descendants be penalized for something that isn't a part of their past at all? Also, not every black person in this country is descendant from US slave families. You want collectives pasts? Go find descendants of slave owners and let them not be hired, and then hire a proven descendant of US slaves.
This is why your idea is flawed.

@dan6 "If the law were targeted correctly". Aaaaaand, how often has that been known to happen? Mega-million dollar corporations have loopholes for everything, why would this be any different?
And again, why should a white person be penalized because a company needs the "correct percentage" of minorities? And what exactly is the "correct percentage"? You're basically asking for legal racism against whites. Why can't a company hire a person for having the skills needed? Instead of said law being that you have to hire x amount of blacks, how about the law be that you have to hire x engineers with whatever skill set needed, no matter what skin color (undocumented is another story that I won't go into)?
And then focus on - just like with every other "race" issue - the problems with the education system and the welfare system that cause all these other problems.

Thanks @ktpinto for your reply.

You are certainly right. Big business gets the loopholes it wants.

So the chance that my proposal is actually implemented is close to zero. I just meant it as a hypothetical.

And it would only make sense if it were not applied equally, but only to the monopolies, or companies abusing the H1B system.

Most importantly, if a company donates millions of dollars to BLM, then they are going on the record as declaring that "systemic racism" is real, when they own the system. They should have to eat their own dog food, instead of just seeing this as a PR matter.

In a multi-cultural system, nobody is going to be happy, but here we are anyway and the plutocrats should be doing their share to make things more tolerable.

@TheMiddleWay Others have already posted what I'd like to add, so I won't bother doing so here. I did, however, want to say thank you for the civil and thoughtful discourse.

@TheMiddleWay Oh, really. Fine, then I want my reparations. 40 acres and a mule, I believe. Who are you to choose what part of this country's history I get a part of?

@TheMiddleWay I guess that’s why the college entrance standards were lowered for blacks? It was only sixty years ago so one can understand your being a bit behind...

And similar proposal from democrats this past summer - adjust the scoring for black students. I guess if it comes from the socialists it’s acceptable to you...

@TheMiddleWay actually I was referring specifically to the standards being lowered in the name of “racial diversity”. Surely as an educator you are familiar with It?

@TheMiddleWay First thing is I. Not your fucking nanny. If you can’t bring yourself to use google, not my problem. It merely indicates how cowardly you are when confronted with something that makes a shambles of your pettiness.

Black scores are adjusted up. Asian scores have even been adjusted down. Fact.

Does you being a white apologist apply elsewhere?

You are a racist and your liberal ideas are like the rest of the ideologues - indefensible.

@TheMiddleWay I’m talking to a racist and that doesn’t cut any slack from me.

You’re dancing again, teacher, and it won’t work. You stated clearly that all things being equal you’d choose a black candidate first. A choice you’d make based on someone’s skin colour. Well, bright spark, you have simply showed how race is a significant factor. That’s racism in any language but yours.

Point of fact, I was talking about SAT scores. In America. I’m not going to spoon feed you. The collected knowledge of the world is online and you can’t avail yourself of it. That’s means one of two things - either you’re suffering some physical/mental condition that renders you stupid, or you’re too fucking lazy to look. I’ve seen examples of both from you.

I can only hope you have limited influence on whoever has the misfortune to be in your presence.

@TheMiddleWay Still dancing?

Apparently you don’t appreciate being called out for being a racist. You are, let’s settle that first.

Second, adjusting SAT scores continues to today - had you been as adept at doing some simple research as a kid in gr 4 (sorry kids, no offence) you would have learned that.

What’s coming - two step or polka?

@TheMiddleWay Not quite yet teacher, you’ve yet to acknowledge you are a racist. Until then I’ll be here,to remind you how pathetic you are...

@TheMiddleWay I’m happy to do just that. You’re a racist, a shallow ignorant man who fancies himself special. You’re not. You’re a racist and worse - you seem to celebrate being one.

@TheMiddleWay i am quite happy calling you out, racist.

Dance all you like, you’re a racist.

@TheMiddleWay And you’re a racist...

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