What about access "virtual/computer-generated child pornography" or text stories containing pedophilia? It's natural to assume that this could put more kids at risk if the potential pedophile becomes motivated to act out on his fantasies. But what if it leads to less sexual exploitation of children? However, this topic hasn't been formally researched due primarily to stigma related to promotion of anything other than punitive or prohibition measures. What do you think?
You realize that the very question and ideology is pushing indirectly for the sexualization of women and children and is supporting the agenda of Planned Parenthood International that was published in the 1990's as their agenda for sex education and normalizing sex with children? That the groups who are pushing this globally also trade in women and children on a global level and that Netherland is right now trying to get rid of the sex industry as they have found that it actually does more damage to women and not less and aids in the drug and crime issues not help prevent them.
Not a road to go down as the evidence historically and via other research and social activity has shown as other forms of deviant behavior are normalized the more crime and social destructive behavior increases. History is full of examples and no we are not better then our ancestors at dealing with it.
NO! Give them a toy and they'll be satisfied... for a while. But for how long before they want to escalate?
Encouraging any sort of this behaviour justifies in their minds that its ok. First 'just' cartoons, that's harmless. Then photos, because it's 'only a photo, doesn't harm the child'. Then a short jump to videos, because 'if you're taking photos, might as well film'. Everything in baby steps, with an eventual goal far from the start.
Dolls will only normalise, and encourage escalation and progression.
Would you do the same with other forms of sexual abuse? Would allowing groping stop rape?
There have been a few studies of how porn effects groups. There's enough data to show that allowing 'child sex robots' is only going to normalise child sex and lead to assaults.
"Should pedophiles be allowed to have "child" sex robots?" - yes, but I don't think it'd be beneficial. The goal for a healthy society is to promote couples into a stable marriage that produces children. Pedophilia is not necessarily permanent and appeasement is not a treatment shown to work for any psychological defect (or anything). "People with [both prepubescent and pubescent children] attractions can sometimes be nudged into focusing on adults..." "However, pedophiles who fall under the "classic type," and are attracted only to prepubescent children, usually under age 11, often don't change their focus...", "In these situations pretty much you can only repress things, and you would use androgen [drug] therapy to do this."
the "robots" would only placate the pedofiles sick impulses and eventually would become passe'. Sooner or later the pedofile will give in to the impulsed to have sexual contact with a living breathing human. No, I think the best way to handle pedofiles would be to cut off their hands and render them impotent
I don't know how you would know unless they've already run up against the law. And if you assume that anyone interested in such by definition is a pedo, then you create a whole new level of 'enforcement' that I can't think would be beneficial. As to the impact on someone with those tendencies - I would think it only encourages it, and eventually would be insufficient. However, it might keep some from harming children. On balance, I'd rather discourage the production of the dolls than try to enforce something 'before the fact' and that means the threat is real to children. A line I feel unqualified to draw - and I can't think of anyone that would be so qualified.
How often have we been told that virtual violence in video games/movies/music, etc., does not encourage societal violence? Are these same voices now going to claim that virtual pedophilia will not encourage child abuse?
Has anybody else noticed how much violence has increased over the last couple of decades?
A country that thinks of rights and needs of pedophiles ahead of children is in deep trouble. Children are future of any healthy nation, pedophiles are not. Simple as that. And if you have been molested or know someone who has been molested or have children of your own who could be molested by pedophiles or preyed upon, than the answer should be perfectly clear. Pedophiles are predators, they are not less harmful to society than sociopaths or psychopaths. Any society that have embraced any of these types, payed a heavy price for it and was ultimately unsustainable type of society. The answer is obvious and most defiantly no, pedophilia has no place in society that is anything but completely decedent and at the verge of collapse.
I know that society no longer supports the type of activity I am about to describe!!!
In the mid-1950's, I was still in grade school and lived in a small town, in the middle of nowhere, where everyone knew everyone!!!
An adult male was seen molesting a boy!!! Before the Sheriff could get a signed arrest warrant, the suspect was pulled from the river DEAD!!!!!
END OF PROBLEM!!!!!!! Never heard of another similar incident in that area!!!!!!
When I was young, I was firmly against the death penalty. No longer.
There are crimes that require the removal of people from society.
This is not about punishment. It's about those who are incapable of controlling their actions and urges to hurt others. It's also about those who deprive others of their lives to advance an idea or belief. Remove them altogether.
Like all things these actions can be used by some to exert power over people though fear. Considering humans will be incharge there must be checks and balances in place.
I look at what I've just written and shake My head at myself in disbelief.
I know killing is just wrong but letting these people kill and maim is also wrong.
The death penalty means no re-offending.
All goes to prove that the human race is "BATSHITCRAZY"
Dolls should absolutely be allowed. I know for a fact of be quite happy with a doll. I don't have to worry about hurting a kid, I can be satisfied, and dress her up without her throwing a tantrum.
I think it would reduce CSA by giving people like me a safe outlet. I almost offended because I have no safe outlet and was pressed into a "doomed to offend" mindset.
@Naomi - I can't remember where I saw this (as it was over 10 years ago), but basically-
A crew went out to a place in a more remote area in Africa. The place didn't have electricity, but some places did have generators, and TVs
(the place was pretty poor and a large part of the community would gather around to watch an hour or two of videos every night). The local markets were, for some reason, flooded with hardcore porn videos, so that's pretty much all that anyone watched. A big part of the town was interviewed (of varying ages), and it came out that the videos had normalised hardcore sex, especially to the younger people. People were copying what they saw, and (because young kids had been exposed to it), the general age that people began to have sex at, lowered by several years. You had 14 year olds being interviewed stating that they were expected to do the same things you would see professional porn stars do in the most hardcore types of porn on video. Not surprisingly, sexual assaults (particularly in the form of date rape) went up dramatically too. Dramatic changes in the space of about 3 years, just due to the introduction of porn videos into the community.
Food for thought.
While I have an issue with Pedophiles in general, as in it is NOT acceptable behavior, I have more of an issue around the laws and the abuse of the laws. I absolutely disagree with feeding the impulses or fetishes, whatever you want to call it, but where is the line? For example, if you look at CP you are deemed a Pedo, if you look at snuff movies, are you deemed a murderer? If you watch murder movies are you a murderer? Arguably they also feed impulses and desires, as does any porn or violent movies. Do you watch rape videos? Are you then a rapist? If you watch the Fast and the Furious are you deemed a danger to others on the road? Simplistic yes, but the reason still stands. If a person can be charged for seeing CP, having CP, or buying a CP doll, then what stops the law from charging you with murder (because you might one day murder someone), or stop the sale of performance cars because you might speed? Before you dismiss that as ridiculous, it is and has been debated in law school around the western world recently. The jury is not out yet.
Not sure if that makes sense. As Adrian said, an emotional topic.
As you say, the research has not been done, so any comment is going to be an emotional one, because people are, in general, reactionary melts who think that compassion is a virtue.
It's perfectly natural to be repulsed by the idea in the first instance, and the vast majority will never go any further than that because they are uncritical, and still prey to their emotions.
Your poll already illustrates how people would dismiss any research into the actual effects of virtual pedophilia because of their feelings, their compassion.
Compassion is an act of selfishness that does nothing but spare the feelings of the compassionate.
I hate to use the words "enable" and "normalize", but unlike consensual relationships between adults, I can't quite think of better words for making dolls for pedophiles. So, I think it kind of comes off as a "first step" rather than a "deterrent" to engaging in the actual act.
Also, those dolls in the picture remind me of Mannequin
Julian Assange once advocated for free and widely available access to child pornography. Despite our gut feelings to the contrary, he argued a good case. The idea was that some people are stricken with the sickness of pedophilia, and will support the abuse of children to produce such material. If such pornography is unavailable in some regions, then it creates a market demand to produce such, placing more kids in danger and increasing the incident rate of actual child abuse.
Might have rather minimal effect if any at all, but suppose it's worth a try. Let the pedos have access to sex dolls, maybe that would be enough to satisfy their perversion? Won't know for sure until such would be tried. Sex dolls are inanimate objects, better they be used than children any day.
All these stories about offenders receiving their just desserts, giving the appearance of loose ends being tied up are extremely naive.
Statistically the figures of children being abused by parents or carers are quite shocking, something like 1 in 6, so before you run ahead with "justice" fantasies just remember that most violators are known to the victim and in most cases present as a "normal" family.
Just remember that when you look around at a school or church gathering. Its rarely a shadowy figure lurking beneath a bridge.
I am still waiting for Mormon video games about the Doomed , and medival dragon themed board games made by Jehovah's witnesses ; to " turn children into violent school shooters" as claimed by wealthy non-denominational television evangelists (who seem to have forgotten why they were so upset about the simulated animal cruelty in Pokemon pinball casino games ).