Interesting film:
America: Imagine the World Without Her

Send them to any other Country to live on their own. We could make it an enrichment thing. But, definitely they can not have equally brain drained friends along. If they do a full year, it would be worth more then 2 years of our University experience. So they would pay the hosts what they would have payed for the School of their choice. Would have to write an essay on the other Country, and present it to get credit.

There needs to be a mechanism by which people can stand aside from those with whom they have serious irreconcilable differences, and consent to live and let live - just not together. Ideally, that would take the form of having separate national identities.

I always thought it was a mistake during and after the civil war for people to decide that states could not secede from the union. While that decision stands, there are only two options left when USA becomes bitterly divided:

1. Work it out diplomatically
2. Fight it out to the bitter end

Marxists don't do diplomacy. Division is their playbook. The Marxist insurgency needs to be neutralized before the young people can be rescued. If that cannot be done, the prospect for peace looks bleak in the short term, and the question is whether USA can survive what comes next.

I’m curious to know the age groups of everyone answering this question: I’m 23 and I don’t hate this country, I just want to know the truth behind it... to continue making it a better place for everyone who originated here or came here from somewhere else, to enjoy. I’m reading the book “Killing Custer” by James Welch with Paul Stekler... and I’m learning about the many massacres the US Army created against Native Americans (Marias Massacre/200 people mostly women and children) or how the US government and natives repeatedly broke treaties that they created (Treaty of Fort Laramie 1868 ) Because the US wanted gold and land while the native people just wanted their holy sites (The Black Hills). What do we do with these truths of our history? Acknowledge them? Ignore them? Say they’re in the past? America is flawed, we are not a utopia and that’s okay, but its hard to ignore the pitfalls of our past, especially when our past really wasn’t benefiting ALL people at once. Was the price we paid (slavery, conquering natives and their land to gain more wealth) for the creation of this country and progress worth the divisiveness we are seeing in extreme volumes today?

This is a great example of the exceptionalism of America. I defy you to name one other nation who has been so magnanimous in the face of absolute victory.

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America does have its flaws. But the dieals of what America is supposed to be from the founding fathers are most excellent ideas. The big flaw is people care too much about how they feel and know nothing of the Consitution and care only for money and power.

I can point to women walking alone on the streets and say, "they can walk without a husband or an escort. They can wear what they want."

I can point to PEACEFUL protesters and say "as long as they hurt no one, block any passages, nor damage property, they are free to protest the government."

I can point to an Amish person, a Muslim person, an Atheist, or an [insert religion here] person, and acknowledge that we have the freedom to celebrate and honor our religions.

I can point to the fact that people can change their economic standing with hard work, good luck, and big dreams, and enjoy the fact that America does not have a caste system (like in, say, India).

I can point to the smiling (sometimes not smiling) faces of children and say, even if they have temper tantrums about not getting a new toy, they have the ability to go to school and not be child labor forces.

God bless America.

America is the one Country in existence where people can raise themselves out of abject poverty purely based on how hard they feel like working. America has the most freedoms. People clambor to get into America on a daily basis and that isn't based on some wild eyed leftists view of what they want this Country to be, it's based on what this Country is. America isn't perfect and neither are the people within it. There is no perfect Country but America is as close to perfection as any Country in history has ever reached. Let's not tear it down, let's tweak it and build upon it and let's do that in the interest of actual improvement, not in the interest of quelling a few dissenting voices. Let's make changes that are truly good for everyone.

I would say that America is great because of it's vision of possibilities and its successes, limited as they may be. The declaration declares that all men are created equal- we are born powerless and at the mercy of the world. In this we are indeed equal, but in most other respects we are not and it does not take a rocket scientist to see the truth of this. The declaration also states that we are endowed by our creator with the unalienable rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Yes, America is flawed. Show me a nation in the world that is NOT flawed. As a government, to quote Mr. Lincoln, of the people, by the people, for the people, our elected representatives have indeed let us down by whittling away at the liberties granted by the constitution, but I would suggest that there is no other nation in which the pursuit of happiness has as much chance for success as in America. There is no guarantee of happiness under any government on earth, but the freedom to pursue it, even in the face of uncertainty, is one of the foundational principles of America that socialist societies dare not counsel.
Everyone seems to be obsessed with the country's history of slavery but never seem to remember that the United States and Great Britain had both abolished the African slave trade by 1808 and the American Civil War put an end to it for the rest of the Western hemisphere at the cost of more than 350,000, mostly white, Union soldiers' lives.
The founding fathers were not perfect either. Yes some were slave owners but it needs to be remembered that slavery, immoral as it was, was not illegal at the time and though The New York Times' 1619 Project would have us believe that slavery was the sole reason for the colonization of America, a little honest research will show that this is a disingenuous argument. Yes our founders were flawed. Socialists seem to think that the human creature can be perfected and that government is the agency for achieving it, and once we have achieved that perfection then we'll all be equal in all other respects. Where everyone is equal no one is free.

The people that came/come here (legally)!!!
If you think things need to be fixed in this country, get back to the idea that "if you work, you eat, if you don't, you don't"

Since the "woke" left believes the US should ditch the national anthem and replace it with John Lennon's "Imagine", I'm going to suggest they get on with the imagining bit. Imagine, the western continent had never been infiltrated by parts of Europe and later parts of Asia.
Would there have been wars? Yes. The native inhabitants were like all other places on the planet. They had various societies and beliefs. Some were warlike, some more peaceful. Some captured slaves, some did not. Either way, would there have been an industrial revolution? Would we now, today have such luxuries as running water into our homes, electricity, transportation by land, sea, and air that takes us to other places?
As one of my old friends once told a woman who was "fighting" for his indigenous rights, "Lady, if you think I want to live in a tepee and wear a loin cloth, and hunt my groceries with a bow and arrow, you're out of your F@#%ing mind. I like this white-man sh@#"

Tell them to do a little research into Canadian history - let's say back to 2015 or so. When they see how our dipshit dictator has destroyed what was once a country that we were so proud to call our own, they may change their tune a bit on what they consider to be a flawed USA

How about a bit of levity before immolating meat and guzzling kegs on this fine Fourth? To quote the Firesign Theatre:

What makes America great?
It's candied apples and ponies with dapples
You can ride all day
It's girls with pimples and cripples with dimples that just won't go away
It's spics and wops and niggers and kikes with noses as long as your arm
It's micks and chinks and gooks and geeks and honkies (honk! honk!) who never left the farm!

Thank you Mr. and Mrs. America!

I “edited” this as it had gotten too unweildy

I'm late to the game here, and I'm glad because reading some great comments here gives me hope and a reason to smile on this, my favorite holiday of the year. I love this country. Yes, we're going through a difficult phase, but our constitution is not outdated... it's still a masterpiece, and I pray goodness and truth will prevail in the end. I wish you all a blessed day.

Happy Independence Day to all my fellow AmeriCAN’s.
We still live in the BEST country on EARTH !
Let’s make it even better by being positive

It is possible both to think that America is the vehicle for the best possible world and to think that America is flawed. Moreover, America can be flawed regardless of what people think or are taught. The issue preventing reconciliation is that many people have internalized a false myth of America and refuse to let go of their blind patriotism to join their fellow citizens in improving it.

Have that person become a foreign exchange 'student of life' for a year, in a Country that is socioeconomically different than the U.S.A. Some place where the things they take for granted are not readily available, like fresh water out of the tap, waste disposal, internet, freedom of religion, or freedom of expression. Require that they find and hold employment in this Country while they are there, and live independently off of the daily wages that they are paid. And, as a lesson, have them complain to the government of their new Country about all the things they find so 'unfair, here in America.

we must kill the abrahamic law and the rest of the religions can mesh together

Outlaw political parties. All elected representatives must be independent, and serve the people they represent.

No side will ever convince the other. We have become so ideologically opposed that the only case I make nowadays is that we should part ways. Doing so would make everyone across the political spectrum much happier.

Our Constitution and Bill of rights. Our system is flawed, all systems are, but ours is set up to be dynamic and self correcting, while at the same time preventing sweeping sudden change based on political whims. As much as those who try to disparage our country like to point to our past mistakes we have not always lives up to our founding principles, those principles and hard work of our citizens has brought us to where we are now. The United states is inarguably safer, more comfortable, more equitable nation than just a few decades ago and we have every reason to believe that if we can stop tearing ourselves apart and remember that we the people are all in this together commit ourselves to compromise, and conduct ourselves with civility that our upward trend will contiue.

What makes America great, and exceptional, is our system of government, fashioned as it was by men with a profound distrust of government and its natural tendency to accumulate more and more power. The underlying belief in the primacy if the individual is what gives our government meaning. Everything in its original structure was designed to prevent government from trampling on individual rights. It is probably the only government in history so designed.

From the instant of its founding, politicians have tried to undermine those rights. Even today, when those rights are under assault from all quarters, our enemies still haven’t been able to simply assume control, much as they might like to. That’s how strong we’re the original foundations.

John Adams said our Constitution was appropriate for a moral people. Our country is still great. Are we a people worthy of it? We are finding out right now.

Pragmatism for me defines American greatness.

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You can quibble about the details but it is uniquely American.

why is the current era so hung on an adjective. united states of America, not great amrrica