I like this group because this is where both theists and atheists gather and decent conversations ...

Hanno comments on Oct 4, 2020:

As a NZer, I will be voting yes... however under strict circumstances. The circumstances they impose to allow assisted death is strict, that is why so many support it.

Hanno replies on Oct 5, 2020:

@Felix , @Naomi Yeah... that’s kinda what strict conditions mean... It was a Dutch girl.... and that would not be legal under the proposed NZ law.

Walter Reed attending physician swipes at Trump for motorcade visit to supporters | TheHill

KeithThroop comments on Oct 4, 2020:

Hmm ... Some questions come to mind: Weren't they following proper safety protocol in the car? Could the drivers have volunteered rather than have been ordered? Does this doctor actually know how the Secret Service does things? Doe he know whether or not they sought expert advice? After all, doesn't...

Hanno replies on Oct 4, 2020:

@TheMiddleWay Killer assignment? Seriously? 0,2% of death IF they get infected. Full PPE gear, risk of getting infected small, making the total risk of dying much less than 0,2%. You don’t think you are exaggerating a bit?

Trump out tomorrow [youtu.be]

TheMiddleWay comments on Oct 4, 2020:

Maybe. After all... ***White House acknowledges Trump's condition had been worse than revealed*** ...

Hanno replies on Oct 4, 2020:

True... they downplayed his condition and was not willing to answer if he had oxygen support on Friday. His poor doctor was clearly told what to say. However, they also probably erred on the side of caution. He is the president after all.

STEM Gap explained in one comic

Machiavelliwar comments on Oct 4, 2020:

There are also the Women who did sign up for Stem. I know three of these ladies, who are now owners of Knit shops or sheep farms. They work for a while, then quit and do very much more communal women type things, very competently!

Hanno replies on Oct 4, 2020:

True, however I also know some who are now chemistry professors, CEO’s, and full time engineers. Another friend was pressed to be a doctor by her father...all she wanted was to be a housewife. 6 years medical school and never practiced. I suppose you could find same stories of men engineers who ended up being estate agents etc.

Trump is going to die, isn't he?

TheMiddleWay comments on Oct 2, 2020:

4% chance based on his demographics.

Hanno replies on Oct 3, 2020:

4% is the CASE fatality rate... not the INFECTION fatality. A while back CDC estimated the CFR to be about 10x the IFR (down from 80x at the beginning). As testing numbers increases the difference is getting smaller... however Trumps actual chances of survival is better than 99%. Still, he could not make it, however very unlikely considering he will receive the best treatment that exists.

Despite an individual's propensity for math, the math that a society uses influences the way that ...

tracycoyle comments on Oct 1, 2020:

> It's an exclusionary system that promote strict equality: a positive number is not equal to a negative number because they don't belong to the same class. I disagree with this statement, and therefore the conclusions that proceed from it. A positive number is no different than a negative ...

Hanno replies on Oct 1, 2020:

@TheMiddleWay And right there is you problem. I would love me some -$1in my home loan. And that is the whole point. They are of equal value... yet they are not the same. Just like white and asians are not the “same” but equal. Men and woman are not the same by “equal”. Your original comment “blacks are not equal to a white persons” etc is not just racist but wrong. This “math is racist” is one of the driving forces behind identity politics which is itself both racist and wrong. And Tracy is exactly right. Your original premise is wrong and everything after that does not matter.

Despite an individual's propensity for math, the math that a society uses influences the way that ...

tracycoyle comments on Oct 1, 2020:

> It's an exclusionary system that promote strict equality: a positive number is not equal to a negative number because they don't belong to the same class. I disagree with this statement, and therefore the conclusions that proceed from it. A positive number is no different than a negative ...

Hanno replies on Oct 1, 2020:

@TheMiddleWay Uncertainty of 100 +-1. You mean that that the negative uncertainty of -1 is less than the positive +1 uncertainty? +1 And -1 are most definitely equal in value. This is very basic math.

FOR ANYONE NOT SUPPORTING TRUMP Do you dislike that he made cruelty to animals a FELONY?

TheMiddleWay comments on Sep 29, 2020:

No. No. False: Isis is still active in 2020 False: Market forces, not policy, are responsible for surge in oil production. Yes. No. No. No. No. Yes: given that he's given about the same amount of land to private interest and will likely do the same with those 375k. No No. False: has not ...

Hanno replies on Sep 29, 2020:

@TheMiddleWay I mean I would love to comment on your responses but just don’t have the time to do a meaningful job. I am surprised at your acceptance of the existence of the “Deep State”. Even though I do not fully understand the concept and thinks that it means different things to different people. I am really only interest in the “Deep State” concept on how it applies to the two main NZ political parties who I believe (without much evidence I must add) are bought and owned by China.

FOR ANYONE NOT SUPPORTING TRUMP Do you dislike that he made cruelty to animals a FELONY?

TheMiddleWay comments on Sep 29, 2020:

No. No. False: Isis is still active in 2020 False: Market forces, not policy, are responsible for surge in oil production. Yes. No. No. No. No. Yes: given that he's given about the same amount of land to private interest and will likely do the same with those 375k. No No. False: has not ...

Hanno replies on Sep 29, 2020:

@Naomi This is only a forum with a few hundred participants... and most only have a few moments a day to comment. Most only come here to vent frustrations. I am only here to learn human behaviour and how it responds to input. If this was a serious debate it would be much different.

Why is it not known how many have been killed through atheism?

Hanno comments on Sep 28, 2020:

As was pointed out many times before... you are confusing non-belief with anti-religion. As a Christian you are anti-Islam, anti-Buddhism, anti-Hindoesm... the list goes on. Christians been killing these other religions for centuries, and visa versa. And what is worse, you believe these people ...

Hanno replies on Sep 29, 2020:

@2FollowHim You missed the crusades heh? Forgot about the Old Testament... you know the one Jesus said will never pass away? Your comment that Hindoes kills is ignorant in the extreme. Hindus, the only religion ever not to have invaded another country. You missed the British colonisation of the India? I know significantly more about Jesus and his teachings than you.... we’ve had these discussions before remember? and I pointed out very quickly how little you know about your own Bible.

i am sure you know how to add

maxmaccc comments on Sep 28, 2020:

Citation needed for the source of the figures.

Hanno replies on Sep 28, 2020:

Interesting, very hard to find the numbers. Why? Eventually found the 2018 number... it is according to the CDC, exactly. It was not obvious to find... had to look for it. However nothing from CDC on 2019 or 2020. Searched for the same data for NZ and found it all immediately. Why is the US data hidden? (Start looking for my tinfoil hat, LOL).

The Helmut Norpoth model

WilyRickWiles comments on Sep 28, 2020:

I remember when Trump claimed he was going to win NY in 2016. Still not going to happen, and one of the dumbest predictions someone can make.

Hanno replies on Sep 28, 2020:

@WilyRickWiles Haha, most likely he will not... he might not be even win the presidency. Who knows... I am just laughing at your “dumbest predictions” jibe...

The Helmut Norpoth model

WilyRickWiles comments on Sep 28, 2020:

I remember when Trump claimed he was going to win NY in 2016. Still not going to happen, and one of the dumbest predictions someone can make.

Hanno replies on Sep 28, 2020:

Funny that... I remember also everyone predicting a Hillary presidency... Also some twerp on here saying Bernie Sander is the one... talk about dumbest predictions... Lol!

where is it....

camerakid61 comments on Sep 27, 2020:

I'm picturing that this prank took place in Australia and the spider in question was a Funnel Web!

Hanno replies on Sep 27, 2020:

Haha... yes... Australia it would work. Not so much NZ, we have NO poisonous (as in deadly) spiders here.

Chaotic Scene Unfolds As Car Plows Through Trump Supporters In California, Multiple Injuries ...

TheMiddleWay comments on Sep 26, 2020:

I don't understand, however, why they are releaseing those drivers after they are found and caught. These are literally "attacks with a deadly weapon" and shouldn't be released IMO

Hanno replies on Sep 27, 2020:

Lots about the States I do not understand. Sometimes when a driver does that the police send 400 bullets to him... other times, they just watch and then let them go. I know the devil is in the details, however the responses are at the extremes.

Jim Caviezel on Christian Persecution in the Middle East and Being a Christian in Hollywood - ...

JeffHoneyager comments on Sep 24, 2020:

I can't find a location in Grand Rapids MI that is showing Infidel. :(

Hanno replies on Sep 26, 2020:

@KanjaG Brooklyn theatre in Pretoria used to show art films (sometime a controversial ones even)... maybe they will show it at some point.

Kamala Harris called Tupac the best rapper alive.

Rick-A comments on Sep 26, 2020:

Could just be a mental disorder? Maybe this new disease thing called TDS that leftist get. You need to a leftist commie to catch this so I am safe 👍. I rewrote my comment in view of RoscoNovaro comment.

Hanno replies on Sep 26, 2020:

@Rick-A Same in Oz...

Back in May, trump said he would use the military to disperse the COVID vaccine.

Hanno comments on Sep 24, 2020:

During the early 1980’s Demoina floods in Mozambique, white Souths African military in uniform on military helicopters flew and saved civilians from roof tops, distributed food and medical aid. None of those Mozambican people thought the Apartheid monsters are attacking. They were very great ...

Hanno replies on Sep 24, 2020:

@TheMiddleWay My apologies. I misunderstood your post. Please ignore my comments on that.

Back in May, trump said he would use the military to disperse the COVID vaccine.

Hanno comments on Sep 24, 2020:

During the early 1980’s Demoina floods in Mozambique, white Souths African military in uniform on military helicopters flew and saved civilians from roof tops, distributed food and medical aid. None of those Mozambican people thought the Apartheid monsters are attacking. They were very great ...

Hanno replies on Sep 24, 2020:

@TheMiddleWay You may want to run that past a registered nurse or doctor. Have had many vaccinations in my life time in several different countries and I always had a RN or doctor gave them, had to stay 10 minutes afterwards and had to be contactable for 24 hours to check on side effects and possible infections.

Trump Declines To Promise Peaceful Transfer Of Power : NPR

Hanno comments on Sep 24, 2020:

Context... so important. Then important words... suggested, probable, allegedly, arguably... whenever you see these words, generally it means whatever the person is saying has no proof and is opinion or hearsay or just made up. In this case, only half the story. Hillary advised Joe NOT to ...

Hanno replies on Sep 24, 2020:

@Finch Thank you Finch.

Back in May, trump said he would use the military to disperse the COVID vaccine.

Hanno comments on Sep 24, 2020:

During the early 1980’s Demoina floods in Mozambique, white Souths African military in uniform on military helicopters flew and saved civilians from roof tops, distributed food and medical aid. None of those Mozambican people thought the Apartheid monsters are attacking. They were very great ...

Hanno replies on Sep 24, 2020:

@TheMiddleWay You suggest people administer the vaccine themselves? Also when there is a panic will you be sending something as valuable as a life saving vaccine via a UPS? You also need to take into consideration that he said this in May when their was full scale panic and Trump was accused of not doing anything. Now, in retrospect I would not go with the military either, however if this was a more deadly disease and a vaccine was available, you cannot really fault him for wanting to use the thousands of military medical staff to assist. There are only upsides using ALL you medical capabilities during a national emergency. He did not say that non-military will not be allowed to help?

Back in May, trump said he would use the military to disperse the COVID vaccine.

Hanno comments on Sep 24, 2020:

During the early 1980’s Demoina floods in Mozambique, white Souths African military in uniform on military helicopters flew and saved civilians from roof tops, distributed food and medical aid. None of those Mozambican people thought the Apartheid monsters are attacking. They were very great ...

Hanno replies on Sep 24, 2020:

And history repeated itself in early 2000’s http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/662472.stm Military can be a force of good and very effective at it.

Trump Declines To Promise Peaceful Transfer Of Power : NPR

Hanno comments on Sep 24, 2020:

Context... so important. Then important words... suggested, probable, allegedly, arguably... whenever you see these words, generally it means whatever the person is saying has no proof and is opinion or hearsay or just made up. In this case, only half the story. Hillary advised Joe NOT to ...

Hanno replies on Sep 24, 2020:

@TheMiddleWay Demonstrably true: https://www.google.co.nz/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1238156

Trump Declines To Promise Peaceful Transfer Of Power : NPR

Hanno comments on Sep 24, 2020:

Context... so important. Then important words... suggested, probable, allegedly, arguably... whenever you see these words, generally it means whatever the person is saying has no proof and is opinion or hearsay or just made up. In this case, only half the story. Hillary advised Joe NOT to ...

Hanno replies on Sep 24, 2020:

@TheMiddleWay By ignoring what he said about the SCOTUS! Lol! It looks like you need to learn perspective as well as context. Trump talk a lot of crap... almost as much as Clintonx2, Obama, Bushx2... and every senator and congressmen. Now compare your three statements about Trump with what Hillary/Biden said. Trump not clear if he will accept results if there is evidence of fraud. Hillary/Biden very clear they will NOT accept results if they loose irrespective of fraud or not. Enough perspective for you?

Trump Declines To Promise Peaceful Transfer Of Power : NPR

Hanno comments on Sep 24, 2020:

Context... so important. Then important words... suggested, probable, allegedly, arguably... whenever you see these words, generally it means whatever the person is saying has no proof and is opinion or hearsay or just made up. In this case, only half the story. Hillary advised Joe NOT to ...

Hanno replies on Sep 24, 2020:

@TheMiddleWay and @Finch Considering the bogus impeachment and all the constant lies the Democrats spread about him, the intense hatred by celebrities and the media backed by the super wealthy... Do you honestly think Trump is not worried that they will use ANY opportunity to cheat the US voter? Don’t you think they already did worse with the fake impeachment charges?

Trump Declines To Promise Peaceful Transfer Of Power : NPR

Hanno comments on Sep 24, 2020:

Context... so important. Then important words... suggested, probable, allegedly, arguably... whenever you see these words, generally it means whatever the person is saying has no proof and is opinion or hearsay or just made up. In this case, only half the story. Hillary advised Joe NOT to ...

Hanno replies on Sep 24, 2020:

@TheMiddleWay So you want to make an argument about what Trump said based on ONE news brief and IGNORE everything else? So you expect him to REPEAT his whole set of policies ever time he speaks because, you know, you cannot remember what he said yesterday or put things in context? Now if you were some protesting pawn I would accept your an idiot. You are not... so it begs the question why you pretend to be one.

Trump Declines To Promise Peaceful Transfer Of Power : NPR

Hanno comments on Sep 24, 2020:

Context... so important. Then important words... suggested, probable, allegedly, arguably... whenever you see these words, generally it means whatever the person is saying has no proof and is opinion or hearsay or just made up. In this case, only half the story. Hillary advised Joe NOT to ...

Hanno replies on Sep 24, 2020:

@TheMiddleWay Supreme Court... Your article writer reference it as the election... where the issue is voting . Yet you insist it is not. Why? Your are losing credibility here. Trump actually states that the transition will be peaceful, get rid of the problematic mail in ballots. So the whole “decline to promise peaceful transition” is dishonest. No world leader will promise to unconditionally submit to a peaceful transition. They all will insist on a free and fair election. Trump is stating what he sees as free and fair. You may disagree what free and fair is and for that the SCOTUS will decide if the election was free and fair.

Trump Declines To Promise Peaceful Transfer Of Power : NPR

Hanno comments on Sep 24, 2020:

Context... so important. Then important words... suggested, probable, allegedly, arguably... whenever you see these words, generally it means whatever the person is saying has no proof and is opinion or hearsay or just made up. In this case, only half the story. Hillary advised Joe NOT to ...

Hanno replies on Sep 24, 2020:

@TheMiddleWay I said he (Trump) takes short cuts in his speech. Not you. And yes, not counting mail in ballots is also problematic. Hence his call not to have them in the first place... just like almost all other countries in the world.

Trump Declines To Promise Peaceful Transfer Of Power : NPR

Hanno comments on Sep 24, 2020:

Context... so important. Then important words... suggested, probable, allegedly, arguably... whenever you see these words, generally it means whatever the person is saying has no proof and is opinion or hearsay or just made up. In this case, only half the story. Hillary advised Joe NOT to ...

Hanno replies on Sep 24, 2020:

@TheMiddleWay You are purposefully mis presenting what he said, and knowingly ignoring things he did say. Why?

Trump Declines To Promise Peaceful Transfer Of Power : NPR

Hanno comments on Sep 24, 2020:

Context... so important. Then important words... suggested, probable, allegedly, arguably... whenever you see these words, generally it means whatever the person is saying has no proof and is opinion or hearsay or just made up. In this case, only half the story. Hillary advised Joe NOT to ...

Hanno replies on Sep 24, 2020:

@TheMiddleWay Supreme Court.... Yet the very article you linked references his statement on the Supreme Court? Again, why are you propagating something you know is not true?

Trump Declines To Promise Peaceful Transfer Of Power : NPR

Hanno comments on Sep 24, 2020:

Context... so important. Then important words... suggested, probable, allegedly, arguably... whenever you see these words, generally it means whatever the person is saying has no proof and is opinion or hearsay or just made up. In this case, only half the story. Hillary advised Joe NOT to ...

Hanno replies on Sep 24, 2020:

@TheMiddleWay You are not stupid. From the context of Trumps speech it is very clear he is talking of the mail in ballots. Not all ballots. He takes short cuts in his speech. You are clearly bright enough to understand this. So it begs the question why you propagate a wrong interpretation of what was said. You are losing a lot of credibility by saying that.

Trump Declines To Promise Peaceful Transfer Of Power : NPR

Hanno comments on Sep 24, 2020:

Context... so important. Then important words... suggested, probable, allegedly, arguably... whenever you see these words, generally it means whatever the person is saying has no proof and is opinion or hearsay or just made up. In this case, only half the story. Hillary advised Joe NOT to ...

Hanno replies on Sep 24, 2020:

@TheMiddleWay You appear to miss the part where he said that the Supreme Court will decide. Continuation means he will contest and let the Supreme Court decide and then abide by the courts. Hence the insistence that he SCOTUS is able to perform the function. Then the whole issues around mail in ballots... this is not just in the US. There IS an issue with it. I do not see how you can state there is a world if difference.

Trump Declines To Promise Peaceful Transfer Of Power : NPR

Hanno comments on Sep 24, 2020:

Context... so important. Then important words... suggested, probable, allegedly, arguably... whenever you see these words, generally it means whatever the person is saying has no proof and is opinion or hearsay or just made up. In this case, only half the story. Hillary advised Joe NOT to ...

Hanno replies on Sep 24, 2020:

@TheMiddleWay The word suggested was used by the article writer. It shows that even the article writer felt that he could not outright state that this is what Trump meant. That there were more to what he said.

NO candidate for the Supreme Court put forth by Trump will be in ANY way acceptable to the Democrats...

Pand0ro comments on Sep 23, 2020:

So why did they not do that with Obama's candidate?

Hanno replies on Sep 23, 2020:

@Pand0ro If the dems had senate majority then, would they have not pushed it through? And if they had it now, would they not have stopped it like the Reps did before? So yes, might (majority) rule. Does not matter whether dems or reps.

NO candidate for the Supreme Court put forth by Trump will be in ANY way acceptable to the Democrats...

Pand0ro comments on Sep 23, 2020:

So why did they not do that with Obama's candidate?

Hanno replies on Sep 23, 2020:

Err... because they did not had a senate majority?

George Soros is not a Philanthropist.

FOTD13 comments on Sep 23, 2020:

Bill Nye has a Bachelors in Science for mechanical engineering. So technically he is a scientist.

Hanno replies on Sep 23, 2020:

@parsifal Does not mean I agree with Bill Nye. Just pointing out that he may call himself a scientist, however he is not “formally qualified” as one. Strictly speaking you can also call Greta a climatologist... or Kanye West a politician...

The man who posted this literally shot himself in the dick yesterday.

Hanno comments on Sep 23, 2020:

Where does he say that he wants to murder people? I Have needed the police on many occasions, however never for murder. Maybe a bit less putting up strawmen?

Hanno replies on Sep 23, 2020:

@JacksonNought Thanks, that explains a lot.

Right-Wing Pastor Says His Prayers Killed Ruth Bader Ginsburg

wolfhnd comments on Sep 23, 2020:

How many people died because the left was busy with impeachment while the pandemic spread. How many people will the green new deal kill. How many people died because the left has failed inner cities. How many people died because the left refused to address problems with China like drug exports....

Hanno replies on Sep 23, 2020:

Maybe true, however there are not “both sides”. I am no lefty socialist, however I am also not a rabid evangelical claiming my prayer has any effect, especially not killing people with it! There are many sides and maybe we need to stop having left right sides and ignore the loonies. Good start to completely distance yourself from such a person first and then point out that there is a lot of loonies our there. But yes, you are right, we have much bigger issues than some crazy Christian.

The man who posted this literally shot himself in the dick yesterday.

Hanno comments on Sep 23, 2020:

Where does he say that he wants to murder people? I Have needed the police on many occasions, however never for murder. Maybe a bit less putting up strawmen?

Hanno replies on Sep 23, 2020:

@JacksonNought So in your world protection is always from murder. Not from theft or verbal abuse... or from getting a beating when you go and try to burn his house/school/hospital/workplace down. Most people would think that would be from the latter... and not the former. You don’t think you are trying to paint your opposition with a dark brush a bit unfairly?

George Soros is not a Philanthropist.

FOTD13 comments on Sep 23, 2020:

Bill Nye has a Bachelors in Science for mechanical engineering. So technically he is a scientist.

Hanno replies on Sep 23, 2020:

That is just the way the US name their degrees. In many other countries the exact same degree would be called bachelor of engineering or technology. So that would not be a suitable argument that he is a scientist. You can however argue that he is working as a scientist and hence can be called one. Many examples of top scientists never having a formal education.

Intercept: Glenn Greenwald, As Joe Rogan's platform grows, so does the MSM and liberal backlash.

TheMiddleWay comments on Sep 23, 2020:

Is there MSM and liberal backlash? The article makes the case for them to actually be ignoring him, not lashing out against him in any coordinated or large scale way...

Hanno replies on Sep 23, 2020:

Dunno about the US media... however here in NZ the news articles and even cartoons are extremely anti-Trump. I note the same from my limited reading of European media. Even today we had an article praising Africa for its wonderful Covid response and how poor the Trump’s America is doing. It of course ignores the reasons why Africa has so much lower recorded cases and death rates (except of course South Africa), and states it is African leadership... which of course it is not. Africa’s response is no better or worse than almost everyone else’s as they are so constrained with the conditions in Africa. So I am not sure if the backlash is due to the increased fear that Trump will get re elected or the fact that he is getting more impartial coverage from the alternative media. But the MSM is becoming more and more vitriolic in their attacks on him. The exception I note is the Finnish newspapers who are very impartial.

Seems Legit

JacksonNought comments on Sep 23, 2020:

Once Trump unseals his college records and releases his tax returns!

Hanno replies on Sep 23, 2020:

@JacksonNought Is that so? You can become a SCOTUS without a licence to practice law? US is a strange country...

Seems Legit

JacksonNought comments on Sep 23, 2020:

Once Trump unseals his college records and releases his tax returns!

Hanno replies on Sep 23, 2020:

Haha... however neither are needed to be POTUS. So bit of a moot point...

Ask someone who believes or supports a trans person to define you what is a man or what is a woman ...

wolfhnd comments on Sep 22, 2020:

Sex traits are the biological definition of male and female identity, gender is the cultural definition of male and female identity and yin and yang are representative of how sexual identity effects society. There is no point in trying to simplify the interaction between these three aspects of ...

Hanno replies on Sep 22, 2020:

@Krunoslav No, sex and gender are related but not the same. We talk of ships as female and others as male even though they are not living things. Many languages (German and Greek etc) grammar are gender based. The whole reason we have the two words is to deal with the concept that caused so much problems for centuries. When you fill in a census form they ask your sex: male or female. Not your gender. Soon that may change and they add another block, however no one really cares what your gender is. We do care about your sex, we don’t want cross dressing men in girls toilets and showers or men competing against woman in sport. However men wanting to be woman... you have no right to tell them they can’t.

RedState: It looks like Sweden's herd immunity strategy worked.

MosheBenIssac comments on Sep 22, 2020:

What works in Sweden will not work in Spain or France. Even more so for the US. Whats works in Florida is not the same as Montana or Alaska. And no one is going to get it completely right.

Hanno replies on Sep 22, 2020:

Even the WHO has now conceded that “lessons from Sweden” needs to be learnt and considered by the rest of the world. We also see countries like South Africa where lockdown is impossible to achieve, now having achieved herd immunity and seeing the end of the epidemic.

An observation.

Krunoslav comments on Sep 21, 2020:

I have a question. What would be a scenario in which a believer, lets say a Christian and a non believer, lets say an actual atheist, would agree on that is intricately linked to ones belief system? And in what scenario would it matter and for what reasons for them to agree?

Hanno replies on Sep 22, 2020:

@Machiavelliwar Why would you assume that we have never been in that situation? I have been. And I answered you question. And no, you are not curious, else you would looked at Naomi’s video and the facts we presented. You mention extreme and rare cases where children kill. You do not need religion to tell you it is wrong. Only psychopaths need to be told that is wrong. Then what unprecedented killing are you talking about? You mean the 27 dead after riots involving 100 000s of people? Your joking right. You still have not answered our question: If no one told you raping and murdering was wrong, would you be going around right now raping and murdering. Just curious...

An observation.

Krunoslav comments on Sep 21, 2020:

I have a question. What would be a scenario in which a believer, lets say a Christian and a non believer, lets say an actual atheist, would agree on that is intricately linked to ones belief system? And in what scenario would it matter and for what reasons for them to agree?

Hanno replies on Sep 21, 2020:

@Machiavelliwar It is sad that you chose not to look at the very evidence that answers your question. It points to a closed mindedness that cannot be addressed by evidence or reasoning.

An observation.

Krunoslav comments on Sep 21, 2020:

I have a question. What would be a scenario in which a believer, lets say a Christian and a non believer, lets say an actual atheist, would agree on that is intricately linked to ones belief system? And in what scenario would it matter and for what reasons for them to agree?

Hanno replies on Sep 21, 2020:

@Machiavelliwar I would not kill a fellow human because I don’t need to. It brings me no advantage and only disadvantage. Watch little children. They intrinsically help each other and have empathy. They do not need to be taught this. Animals show the same behaviour. You just need to observe dogs. They are also selfish and everything else we are... again not being taught this. If I had to, I would kill another human. If he threatens my life or cause me or my “clan” severe hardship. Now you, you mean to tell me that if there was no one who told you murder, rape and stealing is wrong... you would be running around right now murdering, stealing and raping?

An observation.

Krunoslav comments on Sep 21, 2020:

I have a question. What would be a scenario in which a believer, lets say a Christian and a non believer, lets say an actual atheist, would agree on that is intricately linked to ones belief system? And in what scenario would it matter and for what reasons for them to agree?

Hanno replies on Sep 21, 2020:

@Machiavelliwar It is a bit sad that you think the animal world is about eaten or be eaten. You never watched young wild animals play? Or saw how a hippopotamus save an antelope from a crocodile. Or watched how the baboon fire guard protects the troop from predators. Or conversely how Lion males murdered cubs in order to mate their mothers... all human behaviours which exist in animals long before we evolved. Not to murder your kin and tribesman is ingrained in evolution. Animals who does that simply would go extinct. Conversely, when have religion ever stopped murder? Or war? No, the reason why we don’t murder and steal has nothing to do with religion mate.

An observation.

Krunoslav comments on Sep 21, 2020:

I have a question. What would be a scenario in which a believer, lets say a Christian and a non believer, lets say an actual atheist, would agree on that is intricately linked to ones belief system? And in what scenario would it matter and for what reasons for them to agree?

Hanno replies on Sep 21, 2020:

@Machiavelliwar You really need to watch documentaries on dolphins, chimpanzees and bonobos. The moral codes they live by are fascinating. Much work was done by Diane Fossey and others on this and this has been repeated by many others. Other than that.. not a single religion today existed 5000 years ago, yet we have cities and complex societies much older where the principles of morals and ethics are as well established. We also found that much older cave dwelling societies existed for example Stormsriver and Bloukrantz caves in South Africa that dates back to 70 000 that shows highly organised groups that would have needed basic morals to maintain those structures.

An observation.

Krunoslav comments on Sep 21, 2020:

I have a question. What would be a scenario in which a believer, lets say a Christian and a non believer, lets say an actual atheist, would agree on that is intricately linked to ones belief system? And in what scenario would it matter and for what reasons for them to agree?

Hanno replies on Sep 21, 2020:

@Machiavelliwar Well I can assure you it does NOT come from religion. The basic principles you are talking about predates religion and is found in many organised animal groups.

There is an epidemic of high ego children running around in Western Society and the adults are ...

Header comments on Sep 21, 2020:

Well written! Ego is They want us to pay for their student loans, they want us to give them a bailout in life, they want us to guarantee their income with universal basic income (UBI), they want free healthcare and they want cheap yet wonderful government housing. If you have not caught on, the ...

Hanno replies on Sep 21, 2020:

In NZ if a mother does not disclose the father pretending she does not know who he is... the tax payer steps in and becomes the father and pays her monthly maintenance. She can then continue to live with the father as a family pretending he is her new boy friend and they get a nice maintenance check every month for free. The leader of the Green Party was caught out doing that a couple of years ago. Ended her political career very quickly. However the loophole remains and many still use it.

"Yes, I was hired because I was Black. But that’s not the only reason." [washingtonpost.com]

Hanno comments on Sep 21, 2020:

Everything else being equal... same skills, experience, education, potential... But white, or male, would she have been hired?

Hanno replies on Sep 21, 2020:

@WilyRickWiles Very good. I am trying to explain why there will always be questions why she was hired as long her race was one of the key criteria. I agree with you that systemic racism did exist in the US and are still occurring some places in the world. You then propose that NYT and WaPo as well as AP, CNN etc are run by racist white people? Today. Ok. We should combat racism, and I never stated that you can’t because it would be racist, is another red herring. Using racist laws (affirmative action) to combat racism is ludicrous. The cure is labour laws that exclude race as a criteria completely and education that are available to all.

"Yes, I was hired because I was Black. But that’s not the only reason." [washingtonpost.com]

Hanno comments on Sep 21, 2020:

Everything else being equal... same skills, experience, education, potential... But white, or male, would she have been hired?

Hanno replies on Sep 21, 2020:

@WilyRickWiles No Wiley... you completely missed the point. She would NOT be hired. Because the answer would NOT have been because “yes, because you are black, but also bla bla”... It would have been simply “No, because you were the best applicant”. The moment you have to add a non-merit attribute, it is discrimination, whether you think it is justified or not. And as long as some kind of discrimination is involved, people will always ask why you got the job. The South African constitution states that racial discrimination is illegal unless it is justified... is if anything, honest. Because affirmative action always implies discrimination based on race or sex. It is NOT affirmative action if the applicant is the best one. The red herring you throw in about me thinking “non-whites are less qualified on the whole” is the oldest trick in the book. No, I do not think that, and it does not matter if I thought that because my original question specifically removed that option for this specific case. You can clearly see this in countries where discrimination is illegal, even if “justified”, like NZ. I have hired 5 people in 2019/20 financial year, 1 “black”, 2 brown and two white and no one asked why they were hired. They were simple the best applicants.

Ginsberg Gone. ELECTION SKULDUGGERY IN DISARRAY - YouTube

TheMiddleWay comments on Sep 20, 2020:

If so, there would be a reason why now and not keep it up forever. Near as I can tell, there is no singular incident that would have forced them to give up the ruse had they been one now instead of later

Hanno replies on Sep 20, 2020:

@TheMiddleWay that’s just stupid... then again I am just an observer and will not comment any further.

Ginsberg Gone. ELECTION SKULDUGGERY IN DISARRAY - YouTube

TheMiddleWay comments on Sep 20, 2020:

If so, there would be a reason why now and not keep it up forever. Near as I can tell, there is no singular incident that would have forced them to give up the ruse had they been one now instead of later

Hanno replies on Sep 20, 2020:

Don’t know much about the US Judiciary...however I think WorldSigh was attempting some black humour.

Why do so many believe that black men live in fear of being shot by racist police?

Krunoslav comments on Sep 20, 2020:

MSM (Mainstream Media) told them that its true. And its too convenient for the mental and emotional basket cases to accept that false story, than to actually have to take responsibility of their own lives and control their fake outrage.

Hanno replies on Sep 20, 2020:

@Admin Thanks, that was a very interesting problem. It is even more interesting when you try to a analyse how human brain work. I too got it wrong first time and I think if you don’t have some experience in formal probability, you will always get it wrong first time. In this case, what is really interesting, the more you THINK you know, the harder it is to see the correct solution. You are blinding yourself by your own insistence that you are clever and is right. Very important experiment to understand that you never understand enough to be always right.

Sorry folks, I laughed (slightly naughty)

FreedomRocker comments on Sep 19, 2020:

2 fingers in the strawberry, one in the chocolate, none in the vanilla....I must be dim, I don't get it.

Hanno replies on Sep 19, 2020:

@FreedomRocker Your a good guy... only perverts see it immediately. Not people... body parts...

You just know this will be the playbook

JacksonNought comments on Sep 19, 2020:

Perhaps Republicans should not be outright hypocrites, and wait until after the election / potential lame-duck before considering a replacement.

Hanno replies on Sep 19, 2020:

Interesting. Why do you think the election will be a potential lame duck?

Sorry folks, I laughed (slightly naughty)

FreedomRocker comments on Sep 19, 2020:

2 fingers in the strawberry, one in the chocolate, none in the vanilla....I must be dim, I don't get it.

Hanno replies on Sep 19, 2020:

You’re a virgin right?

Climate Alarmism and Fakery.

Lightman comments on Sep 16, 2020:

A study (the one cited by President Obama) by psychology P.h.D. student John Cook found that 97.1 percent of relevant published scientific articles agreed that humans contribute to global warming. This is not the same as saying that humans are a major contributor to global warming or that the ...

Hanno replies on Sep 18, 2020:

@Lightman Ah! That explains everything. So sorry from my side for misunderstanding standing your post. The @ Hanno made it looked like you were responding to me and the MW I thought was just a typo or autocorrect.

Climate Alarmism and Fakery.

Lightman comments on Sep 16, 2020:

A study (the one cited by President Obama) by psychology P.h.D. student John Cook found that 97.1 percent of relevant published scientific articles agreed that humans contribute to global warming. This is not the same as saying that humans are a major contributor to global warming or that the ...

Hanno replies on Sep 18, 2020:

@Lightman If you believe that the climate change, why are you offended by my comment? I did not refer to you at all. Do you disagree that anyone who denies that the climate change is lying or is delusional? What is wrong with my statement? You need to rethink who is acting like an idiot here.

Climate Alarmism and Fakery.

Lightman comments on Sep 16, 2020:

A study (the one cited by President Obama) by psychology P.h.D. student John Cook found that 97.1 percent of relevant published scientific articles agreed that humans contribute to global warming. This is not the same as saying that humans are a major contributor to global warming or that the ...

Hanno replies on Sep 18, 2020:

@Lightman You went and wrongly attributed Middleways comment to me. I did not mention you or referenced you at all.

Climate Alarmism and Fakery.

Lightman comments on Sep 16, 2020:

A study (the one cited by President Obama) by psychology P.h.D. student John Cook found that 97.1 percent of relevant published scientific articles agreed that humans contribute to global warming. This is not the same as saying that humans are a major contributor to global warming or that the ...

Hanno replies on Sep 18, 2020:

@Lightman Hi Light man. Please quote where I have stated that you, Lightman, does not believe in Climate Change. Then come back and apologise to me. I was not even taking to you or about you... I was talking to Middleway and wanted him to be sure where I was coming from. Middleware draw his own conclusions.

Climate Alarmism and Fakery.

Lightman comments on Sep 16, 2020:

A study (the one cited by President Obama) by psychology P.h.D. student John Cook found that 97.1 percent of relevant published scientific articles agreed that humans contribute to global warming. This is not the same as saying that humans are a major contributor to global warming or that the ...

Hanno replies on Sep 17, 2020:

@TheMiddleWay Try multiplying 1.2 and not .2. If you are uncertain by 10% then you can have 1.1 or 0.9 both correct. If you have say 10 linear factors then the answer can be 2,6 or 0,35 and the error factor 7 (heavily rounded). I am doing this from my phone far from home. I don’t mean chaos theory for the individual parameters (although in some ones it applies). I mean the equations they are used in are not all linear and now you have uncertainty for example in CO2 levels of x%, when you plug that into an exponential equation it becomes y%.... y being larger than x. Now the interplay between CO2 levels and plant life absorbing CO2 and the associated Methane production is much more uncertain than 10 or 20 percent. In chemistry we discovered buffers that surprisingly slow down pH changes. Now we know why it happens and can predict it. In analogous ways the sea and plant life buffer CO2 changes. How much is very difficult to guess as we cannot do controlled experiments on the planet. Ditto for the effects of water vapour, sun cycles, sea acidity, and then effects such as historical volcanic events. It becomes terribly complex and virtually impossible to make a prediction that is not at least factor 10 uncertain. Scientists are no only starting to address this issue.

Climate Alarmism and Fakery.

Lightman comments on Sep 16, 2020:

A study (the one cited by President Obama) by psychology P.h.D. student John Cook found that 97.1 percent of relevant published scientific articles agreed that humans contribute to global warming. This is not the same as saying that humans are a major contributor to global warming or that the ...

Hanno replies on Sep 17, 2020:

@TheMiddleWay Page 594... bottom right corner they address my issues. They honestly states that they just started to address the problem. The scientists are honest... it is the media and politicians who are not. The public don’t understand this.

Climate Alarmism and Fakery.

Lightman comments on Sep 16, 2020:

A study (the one cited by President Obama) by psychology P.h.D. student John Cook found that 97.1 percent of relevant published scientific articles agreed that humans contribute to global warming. This is not the same as saying that humans are a major contributor to global warming or that the ...

Hanno replies on Sep 17, 2020:

@TheMiddleWay I don’t have the rough calculations anymore as I had to estimate uncertainties in many parameters myself and it was almost two decades ago. However you can do it yourself. If you have an uncertainty of 20% in every factor, and you have 13 factors, and they are all linear, then the error factor exceed 10. That is the reason I had to invent Monte Carlo type uncertainty analyses in 2004 to reduce the uncertainty in my modelling so that we could build our nuclear power plant! This was never accepted by regulators by the way, and I am still an obscure engineer and not famous. But hey, other work I have done on water ingress was picked up by Chinese a decade later and used in their design (which was built!) so I was famous for a short while...lol! Now if you start using non linear effects... this happens much faster for smaller uncertainties and smaller no of factors. The uncertainty in past CO2 levels are bigger than that since we have had contradicting methods and the past effects on temperature due to these levels is much more uncertain as the total methane levels are so much more uncertain and it is very difficult to know atmospheric vapour levels or effects of radiation with increased or decreased snow cover...you can just go on and on. All this makes modeling climate change fun but very difficult and I have equated it to modeling the stock market. Only chaos theory really works and you can predict the past but not the future due to “butterfly effects” etc.

Climate Alarmism and Fakery.

Lightman comments on Sep 16, 2020:

A study (the one cited by President Obama) by psychology P.h.D. student John Cook found that 97.1 percent of relevant published scientific articles agreed that humans contribute to global warming. This is not the same as saying that humans are a major contributor to global warming or that the ...

Hanno replies on Sep 17, 2020:

@TheMiddleWay In history above I mean recorded history. We have to guess CO2 levels from things like Ice core drills etc and there is very large uncertainties in those numbers. Then the uncertainties in the interaction between plant life and higher CO2 levels, and sea absorption effects and then the effects this have on atmospheric water content and methane levels... all who are more potent greenhouse gasses. In 2006 I met Patrick Moore and was surprised to find others thinking like me. He, and others have much more work on this than me. I was too busy trying to solve the nuclear mass transport questions we were arguing over at the time.

Climate Alarmism and Fakery.

Lightman comments on Sep 16, 2020:

A study (the one cited by President Obama) by psychology P.h.D. student John Cook found that 97.1 percent of relevant published scientific articles agreed that humans contribute to global warming. This is not the same as saying that humans are a major contributor to global warming or that the ...

Hanno replies on Sep 17, 2020:

@TheMiddleWay Climate change is real. Anyone denying that is lying or completely delusional. However, we also cannot make claims that humans are the majority causer (what does it even mean? Humans cause more than 50% of the effect, or 5%, but is the largest causer of 30 possible causers?). Anyway, The core problem is two fold. The equations are not all linear, and secondly we are extrapolating. When you make small mistakes in non-linear equations, the mistake outcomes are not small anymore. In its extreme form you will know about chaos theory. Great for understanding the past, useless for predicting the future... else we would all be stock market millionaires. Then we are using past data to predict future data, while at the same stating that future regimes (eg levels of CO2) will be larger than anytime in history. From thermodynamics you will know that our best tested and used models all have ranges where we apply them and then switch to other equations or parameters when we exceed those ranges. We can do that because we tested beyond those ranges and interpolate. You will never design a plane based on extrapolating test data... you design the test in order to interpolate. Yet we are doing it with climate change. And the proof is in the pudding. I made these statements in 2002 when I for the first time had to verify and validate models and began to understand these things. And now in 2020, none of the predictions made pre 2002’has come true.

Study: up to ninety-five percent of 2020 US riots are linked to Black Lives Matter- ...

TheMiddleWay comments on Sep 16, 2020:

It's interesting that the article accuses the studies conclusion blaming the police on "This is a logical fallacy called post hoc, ergo propter hoc: Because one thing happened after another, the first thing caused the second" While at the same time doing *exactly* the same about BLM and riots: ...

Hanno replies on Sep 17, 2020:

@Bay0Wulf Haha... you should have seen me debate fundamental religious people and Holocaust haters... My problem is that I am open to all ideas and evaluate everything. I do learn lots of things on the way. It is not impossible that I will learn some stuff from the school teacher here. I did learn a lot from Wiley Ricky for example. Just not the stuff he wanted me to learn... lol!

Climate Alarmism and Fakery.

Lightman comments on Sep 16, 2020:

A study (the one cited by President Obama) by psychology P.h.D. student John Cook found that 97.1 percent of relevant published scientific articles agreed that humans contribute to global warming. This is not the same as saying that humans are a major contributor to global warming or that the ...

Hanno replies on Sep 17, 2020:

@TheMiddleWay I have a PhD in physics as well. And a masters in engineering For my masters I developed models to determine uncertainty analysis of nuclear fuel design. I am not a climate scientist, however I am an expert in uncertainty analysis and uncertainty does not care about your field of study. Ok, I am not a world leader anymore but I know quite a bit. Propagation of uncertainty matters for all types of modelling And I have studied the basics of the climate change models and looked at the uncertainty.in the input data. I am being kind when I say the uncertainty is a factor 10. I yet have to see a proper uncertainty analysis done on a full climate model that predicts climate change. It becomes stupid because of the uncertainty in some of the models. And that is what makes any claims that this or that is the major contributor to climate change dishonest.

Climate Alarmism and Fakery.

Lightman comments on Sep 16, 2020:

In 2012 the American Meteorological Society (AMS) surveyed its 7,000 members, receiving 1,862 responses. Of those, only 52% said they think global warming over the 20th century has happened and is mostly man-made (the IPCC position). The remaining 48% either think it happened but natural causes ...

Hanno replies on Sep 17, 2020:

@TheMiddleWay Haha... did that flew over your head? No, priests are not climate scientists... however they are experts on Jesus... so Mary was a Virgin? No false equivalence here mate... I am explaining to you your mistake to refer to authority.... look it up. It’s one of your logical fallacies.

BLM Riots Are Officially the Most Costly Manmade Damage to American Property in History ...

Hanno comments on Sep 16, 2020:

They ARE NOT BLM Riots!!! Get with the program! And that is not a photo of BLM riots. Those photos does not exist!

Hanno replies on Sep 17, 2020:

@dd54 Yes, I am teasing the school teacher.

BLM Riots Are Officially the Most Costly Manmade Damage to American Property in History ...

TheMiddleWay comments on Sep 16, 2020:

Not official yet Could reach 2B and be the most expensive. Or could be 1B and be the second most expensive. A shit show either way.

Hanno replies on Sep 16, 2020:

Yes... I am teasing the local school teacher.

BLM Riots Are Officially the Most Costly Manmade Damage to American Property in History ...

TheMiddleWay comments on Sep 16, 2020:

Not official yet Could reach 2B and be the most expensive. Or could be 1B and be the second most expensive. A shit show either way.

Hanno replies on Sep 16, 2020:

Well that is one photo, 999 to go...

Climate Alarmism and Fakery.

Lightman comments on Sep 16, 2020:

A study (the one cited by President Obama) by psychology P.h.D. student John Cook found that 97.1 percent of relevant published scientific articles agreed that humans contribute to global warming. This is not the same as saying that humans are a major contributor to global warming or that the ...

Hanno replies on Sep 16, 2020:

@TheMiddleWay You seem to misunderstand the difference to agreeing that humans contribute... And humans contribute the majority. Apply some critical thinking. Are the two statements the same? I agree humans contribute to climate change as does earthworms. I disagree that evidence shows that humans are the major contributor to climate change. I support the major tenets of atmospheric science that some gases capture heat etc, however I disagree that we know for sure that CO2 is the main cause. I support that fact that earth temperatures change however I disagree that the world is coming to an end next week. I modeled physical systems for more than a decade in my younger years. A neglected part of modelling involves uncertainty analyses because is so much work. The uncertainties in the models and data is large.

Climate Alarmism and Fakery.

Lightman comments on Sep 16, 2020:

In 2012 the American Meteorological Society (AMS) surveyed its 7,000 members, receiving 1,862 responses. Of those, only 52% said they think global warming over the 20th century has happened and is mostly man-made (the IPCC position). The remaining 48% either think it happened but natural causes ...

Hanno replies on Sep 16, 2020:

@TheMiddleWay The majority of catholic priests believe Mary was virgin. Good old critical thinking there hey?

Study: up to ninety-five percent of 2020 US riots are linked to Black Lives Matter- ...

TheMiddleWay comments on Sep 16, 2020:

It's interesting that the article accuses the studies conclusion blaming the police on "This is a logical fallacy called post hoc, ergo propter hoc: Because one thing happened after another, the first thing caused the second" While at the same time doing *exactly* the same about BLM and riots: ...

Hanno replies on Sep 16, 2020:

@TheMiddleWay Google it. There are thousands. Many have been removed however many remains. Have you not watch any news channel at all the past months? Just on YouTube there are hundreds. Just on this website dozens have been posted. Your telling me you have not seen any of it? Completely missed the existence of Chaz etc... You are not questioning the sanity of my claims because you have seen the photos and the videos and the reports. You are pretending and I always wonder what why people pretend or lie about something. In you case it is simple. Similarly Wiley Ricky pretended that no one died during the riots. When I directed them to the reports and their names he started calling me names. Do you also deny that people died during these riots?

Can't wait for november 3...The meltdowns will be epics [youtu.be]

SpikeTalon comments on Sep 16, 2020:

Leftwing groups like BLM and ANTIFA are already preparing for some serious rioting after the Election...

Hanno replies on Sep 16, 2020:

No... it is NOT BLM who is doing the rioting... our local school teacher assured me it’s not them.

Study: up to ninety-five percent of 2020 US riots are linked to Black Lives Matter- ...

TheMiddleWay comments on Sep 16, 2020:

It's interesting that the article accuses the studies conclusion blaming the police on "This is a logical fallacy called post hoc, ergo propter hoc: Because one thing happened after another, the first thing caused the second" While at the same time doing *exactly* the same about BLM and riots: ...

Hanno replies on Sep 16, 2020:

@TheMiddleWay Pretending that things do not exists is not critical thinking... you are just lying. Pretending that things don’t exist and then questioning the sanity of my views... is exactly gaslighting. And you not trying to get power over me... we will wait and see about that.

More than two-thirds of American students have no idea that six-million Jews were put to death in ...

TheMiddleWay comments on Sep 16, 2020:

> According to the study of millennial and Gen Z adults aged between 18 and 39, almost half (48%) could not name a single concentration camp or ghetto established during the second world war. Not surprising as it was close to 80 years ago. How many adults can name a single POW camp during ...

Hanno replies on Sep 16, 2020:

Well that would be something interesting to do in your own class room. I asked my kids and the girls did not know much but the boy did. Although only as much as it involved the WW2 games his been playing. What concerned me most was that they did not know what happened in Rwanda or Soviet Union, Cambodia or China. I also don’t think you can compare what happened with the Jews with details about the Vietnam POW camps and Korean War offensives. You are right about the silly 23% answer. It says nothing.

Study: up to ninety-five percent of 2020 US riots are linked to Black Lives Matter- ...

TheMiddleWay comments on Sep 16, 2020:

It's interesting that the article accuses the studies conclusion blaming the police on "This is a logical fallacy called post hoc, ergo propter hoc: Because one thing happened after another, the first thing caused the second" While at the same time doing *exactly* the same about BLM and riots: ...

Hanno replies on Sep 16, 2020:

@TheMiddleWay I was going to respond and then realised you are gaslighting me.

This post comes from a conversation I am having with Krunoslav.

Hanno comments on Sep 16, 2020:

You are grouping a very large group of people into one group. What about mental disability... or the disability to be born to abusive parents? Or the disability to have the wrong skin colour or sexual preference? Or to be born in the wrong country or religion? There are many disabilities other ...

Hanno replies on Sep 16, 2020:

@altschmerz My questions are all open ended because I do not know all the answers. I don’t expect you to have the answers either and did not expect you to answer them. Thanks anyway for your answers. I think I am trying to say that we are all disabled to some extent, depends on how you define “normal”. We have a real problem in some parts of the world where people are culturally disadvantaged. And we are requested to discriminate against other advantages cultures in order to help these cultures. My question is more how you juggle “hiring the best person for the job” vs employment diversity and inclusion. That is a tough one. I would say that you need to hire best person, however if that best person has a disability, do what needs done to give them a fair job opportunity.

Study: up to ninety-five percent of 2020 US riots are linked to Black Lives Matter- ...

TheMiddleWay comments on Sep 16, 2020:

It's interesting that the article accuses the studies conclusion blaming the police on "This is a logical fallacy called post hoc, ergo propter hoc: Because one thing happened after another, the first thing caused the second" While at the same time doing *exactly* the same about BLM and riots: ...

Hanno replies on Sep 16, 2020:

@TheMiddleWay Lack of evidence? The exact study group referred to by the article (ACLED). That was the whole point of the article. Lol! Then: Thousands of photographs. Hundreds of videos and testimonies. Many taken by BLM members themselves. Reporting on ALL news stations both left and right wing. Arrest of hundreds of people who confess ties to BLM and Antifa. Many of the riots occurred during BLM protests. Not seperate after fact that events. Now compare the that to the evidence that police is the cause of the escalation. You have a much better case to argue that maybe the police presence does have an effect on renewed violence. Only school children would believe that the riots are not caused by BLM or, the wilfully ignorant.

Study: up to ninety-five percent of 2020 US riots are linked to Black Lives Matter- ...

TheMiddleWay comments on Sep 16, 2020:

It's interesting that the article accuses the studies conclusion blaming the police on "This is a logical fallacy called post hoc, ergo propter hoc: Because one thing happened after another, the first thing caused the second" While at the same time doing *exactly* the same about BLM and riots: ...

Hanno replies on Sep 16, 2020:

@TheMiddleWay Sorry, the argument that the riots are not caused by BLM activism is so absurd that I cannot engage. Obviously the thefts are Primarily opportunists however the attacks on police buildings, the arson Of public buildings and businesses, attacks on court houses and murder of police officers and the suspects arrested are all members of various BLM and Antifa movements... is so obvious, that denial of such shows a wilful ignorance that exceeds my willingness to engage. The evidence or lack thereof are not nearly the same for both.

Study: up to ninety-five percent of 2020 US riots are linked to Black Lives Matter- ...

TheMiddleWay comments on Sep 16, 2020:

It's interesting that the article accuses the studies conclusion blaming the police on "This is a logical fallacy called post hoc, ergo propter hoc: Because one thing happened after another, the first thing caused the second" While at the same time doing *exactly* the same about BLM and riots: ...

Hanno replies on Sep 16, 2020:

@TheMiddleWay I was not there either. However there is a large volume of media showing that the riots and looters were done by the two groups I list above and therefore their is no need to use logical arguments to argue their involvement. Now it is true that there may be some riots not done by them, however the evidence strongly suggest the majority of riots are caused by them. However, to say that the police caused a renewed outbreak of rioting you do need to use logical arguments as there is no direct evidence for it. You are trying to use logical arguments when it is not required in order to invalidate a logical argument where it is required. Not being an expert in logic like you, I think it is called false equivalence. You may correct me.

Study: up to ninety-five percent of 2020 US riots are linked to Black Lives Matter- ...

TheMiddleWay comments on Sep 16, 2020:

It's interesting that the article accuses the studies conclusion blaming the police on "This is a logical fallacy called post hoc, ergo propter hoc: Because one thing happened after another, the first thing caused the second" While at the same time doing *exactly* the same about BLM and riots: ...

Hanno replies on Sep 16, 2020:

You imply that the riots were not done by BLM members and sympathisers, as well as Antifa members and sympathisers?

So first Trump was responsible for the Coronavirus and its spread,then he was responsible for the ...

TheMiddleWay comments on Sep 15, 2020:

> We all know where the virus came from and that it was a deliberate move to share the virus with the rest of the world. There can be no denying this point. Correct. No denying evolution. > there are many skeptics all over the world Correct. Less than 5% of scientists worldwide don't agree...

Hanno replies on Sep 16, 2020:

You just walk into that one... lol! Hint: people here are slightly better educated than your average school child... so unlike children, you actually need to know what you are talking about before you engage. Feel free to collect my English.

I was brought up by agnostic parents.

govols comments on Sep 15, 2020:

It sounds like you were being raised into the remnants of a moral tradition, but not handed down the stories it was rooted in.

Hanno replies on Sep 15, 2020:

@RoscoNovaro You could write that up and Netflix will pay to turn that into a movie!

What a surprise!

TheMiddleWay comments on Sep 15, 2020:

Maybe facebook shut this down because those numbers don't tell the whole story and send the wrong message to young adults: Aug 6, 2020 **'It's a bad sign': Sweden sees renewed rise in coronavirus infections among young adults** ...

Hanno replies on Sep 15, 2020:

@TheMiddleWay Yet you blame Trump for the problems USA have... and you follow the media that tells you that NZ is doing better than USA? Lol! You quote that Sweden failed to protect its elderly when EVERYONE has failed to do so. English not my first language and I am a numbers man... so lookout for plenty your and yours mistakes. My point is that opinions means very little and everyone is a critic. However facts and figures don’t care about your feelings.

I was brought up by agnostic parents.

camerakid61 comments on Sep 15, 2020:

Since man created gods, he also created morals and ethics. Now as to wether we follow these human created morals and ethics is a choice we all make. We alone will reap the rewards or suffer the consequences of our actions. Not in some heavenly kingdom or pit of fire, but throughout our lives.

Hanno replies on Sep 15, 2020:

Morals and ethics also exist to some extent in animals and the basics principles are consequences of evolution. Man was created by evolution and you can argue that morals and ethics evolved further with Man’s development of culture and society over the past 500 000 years or so. Man always tried to short cut those morals and ethics and paid heavily for it all through history.... and still today.

What a surprise!

TheMiddleWay comments on Sep 15, 2020:

Maybe facebook shut this down because those numbers don't tell the whole story and send the wrong message to young adults: Aug 6, 2020 **'It's a bad sign': Sweden sees renewed rise in coronavirus infections among young adults** ...

Hanno replies on Sep 15, 2020:

That’s right... numbers don’t tell the whole story... but “critics” opinions does? And your a teacher? You know Finland has had only a limited lockdown and opened its borders again very early? They had the best Covid response. Obviously Sweden could have done better... name one country who did not make mistakes. The point is that they learnt and now protect the right people and see the results now. Sweden and Finland are back to full economic activity while the rest of us are still scratching our heads how to lock down.

A simple issue that baffles me.

Felix comments on Sep 13, 2020:

You are free to think as you will, but you must be residing in some sort of lala land. Where did you get the idea that Christians think that the Bible is the divine word of God. I, as a devout believer would not expect any person to be able to interpret It is anything else but a book written by ...

Hanno replies on Sep 14, 2020:

1 Timothy 3:16-17. How do you believe if you do not believe the Bible? Do you make stuff up yourself then? How do you know what god wants. Does he speak to you directly? Or do you have people who tell you what to believe? So many questions. Honestly I have never heard of a Christians who don’t believe in the Bible... except people who make up stuff themselves such as the Jehovas etc and even then they create scriptures they claim somehow comes from god. Would be interesting to know more about your faith... from a academic point of view.

When I was beginning to understand the difference amongst theist, atheist, anti-theist and agnostic,...

Naomi comments on Sep 12, 2020:

In layman's terms according to Simple English Wikipedia: *Gnosticism says that humans are divine souls trapped in the ordinary physical (or material) world. They say that the world was made by an imperfect spirit.* *The imperfect spirit is thought to be the same as the God of Abraham. The ...

Hanno replies on Sep 13, 2020:

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A great idea, no?

Bay0Wulf comments on Sep 10, 2020:

I’d like to see a bit of the science behind this pollution fighting paint. Apparently, they attribute this property to the inclusion of; “the active component in photocatalytic paints—titanium dioxide”. I like Art ... I like Huge Wall Murals more than bleak Brick or Block Walls ... I like ...

Hanno replies on Sep 11, 2020:

It does not.

Why don’t blacks help blacks

Slugo comments on Jul 29, 2020:

Actually blacks give the most to charity percaptia. It all goes back to blacks so they give more.

Hanno replies on Sep 10, 2020:

Interesting. I read the OP and immediately thought that I know many blacks who give heavily to charity... However they are individuals and maybe in general it is not the case. Any credible references to your statement? I know Muslims give also very heavily to charity... much more than Christians, however that is mandated in both religions and Muslims in general take their religion more serious than Christians.

To all those on the left (the farther left, the better) I have a simple question and I invite you...

Edgework comments on Sep 7, 2020:

I initiated this thread with a few simple objectives. I’ve never been shy about my antipathy for all flavors of leftist thinking; given that the Democratic Party appears to have been taken over by the Democratic Socialists of America’s, and all their presidential candidates seem to have been ...

Hanno replies on Sep 7, 2020:

@Naomi thanks for the link. The top countries have all one thing in common... it is not so much whether they are capitalist or socialist or whatever... They all have a strong personal responsibility culture of working hard and doing the right thing. They all have a strong law abiding culture and focus on education and merit. Corruption is very low. If you look at less successful countries... this is absent or poorly developed.

To all those on the left (the farther left, the better) I have a simple question and I invite you...

Edgework comments on Sep 4, 2020:

I still haven’t heard anyone talk about the nuts and bolts of creating a socialist utopia in the United States, which, to be honest, is the stated goal of our current crop of socialists, as well as all who have come before. None of them are saying “Let’s be like Sweden; let’s be like ...

Hanno replies on Sep 7, 2020:

@Machiavelliwar I have my own opinions on money theory that are too complex to discuss on a forum like this. I am neither a socialist or a capitalist and is the opinion that we need key elements of capitalism to create wealth and need to employ some socialist elements to keep us from getting into a class war. The Scandinavian countries have progressed a long way down this path. They are of course all capitalist countries.

To all those on the left (the farther left, the better) I have a simple question and I invite you...

Edgework comments on Sep 4, 2020:

I still haven’t heard anyone talk about the nuts and bolts of creating a socialist utopia in the United States, which, to be honest, is the stated goal of our current crop of socialists, as well as all who have come before. None of them are saying “Let’s be like Sweden; let’s be like ...

Hanno replies on Sep 7, 2020:

@Machiavelliwar Modern monetary theory

To all those on the left (the farther left, the better) I have a simple question and I invite you...

Edgework comments on Sep 4, 2020:

I still haven’t heard anyone talk about the nuts and bolts of creating a socialist utopia in the United States, which, to be honest, is the stated goal of our current crop of socialists, as well as all who have come before. None of them are saying “Let’s be like Sweden; let’s be like ...

Hanno replies on Sep 6, 2020:

@WilyRickWiles, @Naomi Naomi, you will need to read Democratic Socialist of America website yourself to form an opinion. My opinion is that Social Democracy (most of Northern Europe) is not the same as Democratic Socialism advocated by many here. It is one of the big arguments I had with Wily. However, that is my opinion. You need to study Scandinavian economic models and compare with the DSA plans and decide yourself. I support many socialist ideas and ideals, however are not blind to the very large problems that brings... Ditto for capitalism.