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Donald Trump accuses Jews of being disloyal

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Sounds really anti-semitic? Can one of you trump-whisperers explain why it's not? Try to stay on subject while you do it.

HighQ 7 Aug 21
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Best of luck to anyone casting their lot with the Rashida Tlaib’s and Ilhan Omar’s of the world. But credit where credit is due. Any article that manages to create an anti-Semitic villain, while making Tlaib and Omar the aggrieved victims, is an outstanding bit of writing!

GeeMac Level 8 Aug 21, 2019
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Trump is a zionist, he's given more money to Israel than any other president

Pandora Level 3 Aug 21, 2019
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People are pack animals. We tend to associate with our own kind, travel in the same circles for life.
The pack mentality in colleges made me a devils advocate.
Follow the shepherd not the sheep.
It has always amazed me how leftists and Jews and feminists and gays in particular, support Islam.

David42 Level 7 Aug 21, 2019
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A bit more of the quote:

"I cannot even believe that we're having this conversation," Trump said in response to a question about Omar's call to end US aid to Israel. "Five years ago, the concept of even talking about this, even three years ago, of cutting off aid to Israel because of two people that hate Israel and hate Jewish people, I can't believe we're having this conversation."

"Where has the Democratic party gone? Where have they gone where they're defending these two people over the State of Israel? I think any Jewish people that vote for a Democrat — I think it shows either a total lack of knowledge or great disloyalty"

govols Level 8 Aug 21, 2019

Exposing leftist narratives, govols? Politics foul!

It doesn't un-damn him, but it certainly changes the perspective a bit.

Absolute lunacy. This is nuts even for Trump. It's the sort of thing Ilhan Omar was talking about when she talked about being expected to have allegiance to another country. In this instance, Trump is the person pushing for it. Imagine if he said something like "Irish people are supposed to have dual loyalties to the United States and Ireland or the Vatican."

And wow, he keeps outdoing himself. "King of Israel." "Second coming of God"! That will get Jewish people to like him.

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@HighQ - Michelle Obama accuses women who don't vote for Hillary as disloyal to women, Hillary kindergartens against her opponents and Shapiro (a Jew) accuses Jews who vote leftist as being disloyal.

So you agree with Trump that there are a lot of disloyal Jews.

@HighQ So you think we should have a double standard depending on the source.

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Meh.......antisemitism much like racism is an overused word. When he says "disloyalty" I believe he's referring to disloyalty to the Israeli state which shouldn't be concern to American voters. I've no loyalty to Israel because I am not Israeli .
But overall I think he's trying to point out that the American progressive left is no friend to Israel. Which is true. I don't view the statement as anti-semitic but Im not a Jew. I'll have to wait for Ben Shapiro to tell me what to think about this 😊

@HighQ No. Why would it be? You can point out disloyalty or stupidity without linking it to some immutable characteristic such as race or ethnicity. Now, if one were to say that they are disloyal or stupid BECAUSE they are Jews....that would be antisemitic. Words have meanings.

@HighQ 1) That's not what he said and 2) No. He could have just as easily said if your black and vote democrat you're a moron. That wouldn't be racist. Had he said you're a moron because you're black THAT would be racist.

Racism
Description Racism is the belief in the superiority of one race over another. It may also include prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against other people because they are of a different race or ethnicity, or the belief that members of different races or ethnicities should be treated differently.

@HighQ Yes. "BECAUSE they are of a different race or ethnicity," Not because of their actions and they HAPPEN to be of a different race or ethnicity. By your definition any critique of those of a different race or ethnicity would be racist.

@HighQ Then you don't understand the meaning of racism. He's making a negative judgement on a ACTION(i.e. voting democrat) not the group doing so(i.e Jews)

@HighQ I disagree with you're interpretation of the semantics of the statement.

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Disloyal to whom or what?

govols Level 8 Aug 21, 2019

You assume a lot.

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