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Are you a patriot or a rebel?

Those who fought in the American Revolution were not patriots (of England) but rebels, and those who fought for the South in the Civil War were not patriots (of the Union) but rebels. Given the current state of America, I am not a patriot. I am a rebel who hopes that a few sane states can secede from the disaster that America has become.

Are you a patriot or a rebel?

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fschmidt 6 Aug 11

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I have a little bit different attitude about the Confederate States of America. Those states had seceded, as they had every right to do, and created a nation of their own. The men fighting in the Confederate were not rebels, they were being patriots fighting to protect their homes, and families from a foreign invader. In that sense I am very much a patriot, and I do not hold the existing government in our current Union as being legitimate, and therefore will not be "patriotic" when it comes to them. If we could see a true civil war be carried out that would bring us back to a federal government that respects, and follows the Constitution, that I would support. Otherwise if the former states that created the CSA decide to follow that path I will be there standing with them.

The constitution would have never been ratified in the first place if the rights of states to secede from the union hadn’t specifically been in there. This has been swept under the rug.

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The effort to announce or publish secession acknowledges the legitimacy of that which is being left behind.

How about instead of Patriot or Rebel the idea is merely to be human?

I do not willingly aid and abet satanic torturers and murderers of children, therefore all power flowing to them from me is no longer going to happen on my watch.

Far fetched?

Bonding Code:

9.2 - Escalation
" A law enforcement officer will lose his bond if he oppresses a citizen to the point of civil. rebellion when that citizen attempts to obtain redress of grievances (U.S. constitutional 1st so-called amendment).
" When a state, by and through its officials and agents, deprives a citizen of all of his remedies by the due process of law and deprives the citizen of the equal protection of the law, the state commits an act of mixed war against the citizen, and, by its behavior, the state declares war on the citizen. The citizen has the right to recognize this act by the publication of a solemn recognition of mixed war. This writing has the same force as the Declaration of Independence. It invokes the citizen's U.S. constitutional 9th and 10th so-called amend guarantees of the right to create an effective remedy where otherwise none exists."

THE COMMERCIAL LIEN RIGHT AND THE MILITARY LIEN RIGHT

"In American history, the Declaration of Independence served the legal purpose of making a Solemn Recognition of Mixed War, which is a Notice of Military Lien Right, a warning of No Trespass, an assertion that any killing or taking of human life necessary for the protection of the legal remedies of the common citizen is being done, in the immediate situation described in the Solemn Recognition or Notice, not as murder, but as lethal self-defense of the commercial and social remedy against the cited domestic enemy or enemies. The Declaration of Independence is the legal model or format for the construction of the Solemn Recognition of Mixed War and the Notice of Military Lien Right."

First Congress of the actual federal Congress (ended in 1789):

"That the question was not whether, by a declaration of independence, we should make ourselves what we are not; but whether we should declare a fact which already exists:
That, as to the people or Parliament of England, we had always been independent of them, their restraints on our trade deriving efficacy from our acquiescence only, and not from any rights they possessed of imposing them; and that, so far, our connection had been federal only, and was now dissolved by the commencement of hostilities:
That, as to the king, we had been bound to him by allegiance, but that this bond was now dissolved by his assent to the late act of Parliament, by which he declares us out of his protection, and by his levying war on us a fact which had long ago proved us out of his protection, it being a certain position in law, that allegiance and protection are reciprocal, the one ceasing when the other is withdrawn:"

Earlier in human history:

"That this right of resistance was recognized as a common law right, when the ancient and genuine trial by jury was in force, is not only proved by nature of the trial itself, but is acknowledged by history.
Hallam says, “The relation established between a lord and his vassal by the feudal tenure, far from containing principles of any servile and implicit obedience, permitted the compact to be dissolved in case of its violation by either party. This extended as much to the sovereign as to inferior lords. If a vassal was aggrieved, and if justice was denied him, he sent a defiance, that is, a renunciation of fealty to the king, and was entitled to enforce redress at the point of his sword. It then became a contest of strength as between two independent potentates, and was terminated by treaty, advantageous or otherwise, according to the fortune of war. There remained the original principle, that allegiance depended conditionally upon good treatment, and that an appeal might be lawfully made to arms against an oppressive government. Nor was this, we may be sure, left for extreme necessity, or thought to require a long enduring forbearance. In modern times, a king, compelled by his subjects’ swords to abandon any pretension, would be supposed to have ceased to reign; and the express recognition of such a right as that of insurrection has been justly deemed inconsistent with the majesty of law. But ruder ages had ruder sentiments. Force was necessary to repel force; and men accustomed to see the king’s authority defied by a private riot, were not much shocked when it was resisted in defence of public freedom.” - 3 Middle Ages, 240-2." Essay on The Trial by Jury, Lysander Spooner, 1852

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I’m “patriotic”, or perhaps a better word would be nostalgic, to the original ideals and principles that this once great nation was founded on but I realize that is long gone now. That nation could only survive when the majority of its citizenry came from Western European stock who were only looking for a system of government that would allow them the freedom to use their own ingenuity and hard work to pursue success. Today that nation is terminally ill due to a cynical termite culture that has enjoyed obscene profits by undermining the very culture that accepted it and the country today would be unrecognizable to its original founders. I’m definitely in rebellion to this new and ugly monstrosity.

Andyman Level 8 Aug 11, 2020
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I'm patriotic to the "old order." As a conservative I've never been asked what I want to conserve...

Answer: Liberalism. The real liberalism of our founding Fathers and the Enlightenment. I guess that makes me a rebel and a radical.

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