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Just my thoughts on the toxicity of CO2:
Everybody at the EPA who really believes CO2 is a toxin should be fired on the spot. By what criteria did they come to that conclusion? Every time you exhale, the level of CO2 in your breath is upwards of 4% (40,000 ppm.) A level 100 times greater than the current 'dangerously high' level in the atmosphere.

Cuzilla47 4 Mar 10
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CO2 is deemed a toxin by the government so that it may potentially eliminate its producers as government deems it necessary. I'm waiting for the brainiacs who have vilified carbon dioxide to become alarmist over the high level of nitrogen in the atmosphere. Fifth grade science has been ignored by the wizards of smart for decades and modern education is a sham.

I know and understand the 'Watermelons' goals here. CO2 from energy production and transportation are what allows us and Western Civlization to thrive. By having control over CO2 emissions, the greens can literally control/destroy the entire country.

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  1. CO2 can displace oxygen in a closed space, or a low-lying open space, so is considered deadly in those circumstances.
  2. In ancient Earth, high CO2 concentrations meant huge dense forests. That became the coal which we now mine for fuel.
  3. The EPA is still filled with appointees, potentially dating back to the Carter administration. Think Deep State.

You are correct. I have been reading and studying energy and energy production since I was in high school (1965 grad.) I am deeply saddened by he level of ignorance in the general population concernng these matters. The infiltration of academia by collectivist ideologues are using green propaganda to convert the students into mindless automatons.

I also occasionally hear Venus used as proof of CO2's ability to heat the planet, which is absolutely nonsense.

  1. Venus has 96% CO2 atmosphere, Any human is deluded if they think we can get Earth's atmosphere anywhere near that level of CO2. When I ask how much O2 we have in the atmosphere, I can see the incomprehension in their face. Basic science behind combustion is lost on them.
  2. Venus' atmosphere is very thick at 93bar, and its temperature, much like any other planet can be derived with a very good approximation using the ideal gas laws alone - which include no such parameter for composition of the gas.
  3. Venus' surface temperature is from Geothermal activity - not greenhouse effect, and NASA knows it : [nas.nasa.gov]

@Issunbo, As far as I now, all of what you say is true. In addition, Venus is a great deal closer to the Sun, so by the inverse square law of heat radiance, at 67 million miles from the Sun, it receives roughly twice the solar energy as Earth. So not just geothermal heat. That much heat here would have killed off life long ago, without "Climate Change."

Meanwhile back on Earth, anyone who chooses to actually look at the CO2 record will find a steady decline in the last several thousand years. If the trend continued, all plant life would have died soon. The human contribution of about 3% to the CO2 in modern times will have delayed the death of plant life by a few hundred years.

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CO2 is food for plants. Plants are food for animals, including people. The circle of life.

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I don't take the EPA too seriously...

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