Can someone please explain what is Islamaphobia ?
i ass-u-me it is a fear of Islam, which would mean, i think, a fear of the Islamic faith. so how is someone who maybe critical of the faith be considered a racist.....i fear all doctrines of religious faiths ... so what does that make me ?
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Feel free to reply to any comment by clicking the "Reply" button.I think they are trying to say a phobia is an irrational fear of Islam. It doesn't have to mean race although people who are Counter-Jihad often get accused of being racists. It is absurd to be called racist because the majority of Muslims in the world are actually non-Arab. Indonesia has the largest Muslim population of any country in the world.
#islamophobia #jihad #Eurabia
Godless
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Apr 3, 2020
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At the literal level, it is a fear of Islam, but that is not how it is applied today. It is more of a generic term for anti-Islamic bigotry, when someone has an unjustified or irrational hatred towards a person or group of people simply because they subscribe to Islam. It is similar to Homophobia, where people aren't literally afraid of homosexuals, but they hate them. It can be demonstrated by anyone, but in most cases applies to far-right deeply religious groups, in a "pot calling kettle" scenario.
Often it is evangelical Christians, true-blue patriots who believe in American ideals and the Constitution, but only when it applies to their own religion. They will waive off any criticism of their anti-religious-freedom by claiming Islam is a "political ideology" and not a true religion. They will fight tooth-and-nail to try and prevent the possibility of "Sharia Law" from being allowed in the US, while being perfectly okay with trying to force their own dogma into legislation. They will say that the Quran is full of evil verses calling for violence, while ignoring the violence in the Bible. They will state that extremist groups like Al Qaeda and ISIS are 100% representative of the Muslim community, or that more mainstream Muslims should have to apologize for the actions of fundamentalists, while saying that groups like the Westboro Baptist Church are not "true Christians" and therefore their religion is truly peaceful and loving. They will say that the dark and violent days of their religion are long in the past, while Islam is violent today - ignoring cases such as Christian missionaries going to Uganda to champion a "kill the gays" law, and rampant sexual assault in the Catholic Church which is swept under the rug.
You will find these are the same people claiming that Hitler was an atheist, and that more people were killed "in the name of atheism" than any religion. They are the same people trying to ban abortion because they are pro-life, yet they also want to ban anything that can reduce unwanted pregnancy - birth control, factual non-abstinence-only sexual education in school, allowing gay people to adopt from foster care, etc. They are the same people who would rather ban religious displays from a government building or a public school, rather than allow different religious viewpoints from being given equal accommodation and representation. They are the same people who will say that any violence by a Muslim (or even just a person of Middle Eastern descent) is clearly an act of religious extremism, but if a white Judeo-Christian person commits a violent act is it a lone-wolf mental health issue. When a Christian cult in Panama, calling themselves The New Light of God, massacres a group of people, these people will label them Satanists. When a student at a college in Oklahoma, watching several YouTube videos on Christian beliefs and posting on social media about his love of Jesus, murdered a fellow student claiming that the victim was practicing witchcraft, these people will say there is no connection to religious extremism in the crime.
To summarize, is Islam a violent and problematic religion? Yes, absolutely. Is it any more violent or problematic than any other dominant religion in the world today? No, not really. So when someone dismisses "Islamophobia" try looking at their own beliefs to see if they really are thinking critically, or are just prejudiced in their own dogma.
JacksonNought
Level 8
Mar 27, 2020
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You're kidding, right?
Not in the slightest.
i would say that instead of playing identity politics as the radicals enjoy and politicize
we should teach all faiths to the children in schools to gain the moral understanding of the world they will live in .....this i believe would be beneficial to understanding and removing ignorance
i think they would learn that the premise of all faiths is to Love your Fellow human as you would yourself
and to teach children as they get older to avoid the trappings of ideological indoctrination, an open minded approach to study "isms" NOT to follow an ideology of one set of principles that always try to control the narratives, [today its this Social Marxist Agenda based on identity or oppression history]
we should not allow any set of guidelines from any faith that would encourage or interpret oppression and harm ....... not to pick on Sharia Law but if peoples wish to live under that guideline of rules then stay in the country that operates with that
North America should have no place for that ..... tolerance yes but not at the cost of losing our individualism, or any Freedoms. Implementing any type of limits on freedom of thought expression and speech is, to me. and should be to all who have grown up in our western society , seen as an act of War/ Aggression
Criticism of anyone's opinions should be vital, and encouraged, in all classes and levels of education , politics etc especially in the Sciences
i would prefer we develop a basis of moral conduct and obligations without the need for strict observance to these medieval religious practices. I understand religion is politics and it is about controlling the behaviour of the masses for some false / fantasy type redemption
Someone who judges people based on their religious affiliation, rather than their lawful or ethical stance or character. All the people who want to impose some religious rule on other people are a type of fascist, whether they are islamo-facists, or Christian Facists here in the US, or any other religion.
Ignoring that facist tendency to impose religion on others, and even more - actually using someone's religion as an excuse to be prejudiced against them is "Islamophobia."
So if you fear all doctrines, you're just a critical thinker. But if you're trying to whip up fear or dislike of Muslim Americans, you're Islamophobic.
damo9f
Level 5
Mar 10, 2020
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Generalizations like that dissolve when you are informed. Read the Koran. Not what someone says about it. READ IT. Not all religious philosophies are the same. Similarities are not sufficient to lump them all together as equivalent. Would you say a loyal member of the NAZI party should be judged on their individual merits and disregard their membership? That is what you are proposing.
i don't believe the word Islamaphobia or islamaphobic is proper i do have an issue with some doctrines over others
whether by intent or manipulation, in my review of many faiths, i am the most weary and have distrust is with Islam
i have concerns with anyone who takes the written words of any of these faiths too literally so i would say i would rather be cautious with my selections, regardless what people think or say
“Slander is the only recourse when the argument is lost.” - Socrates.
So an indefensible attack on our Constitution can only continue if the attackers can convince you you are wrong to defend it. Political correctness their main tool to achieve that. Don't let them get away with it, and don’t be nice about it, because when they find out they can’t intimidate you, they intend to kill you! They are lying cowards and might not try if you show some backbone.
If you think I am exaggerating, read the Koran. Start at Hadith 9-5.
TimTuolomne
Level 9
Mar 10, 2020
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Phobia is a baseless and unreasonable fear ...
To be afraid of Islam is neither baseless or unreasonable.
After all, they have been doing what they are still doing today for over 1400 YEARS.
We have 1400 years and Thousands of examples to look at.
Fear of Islam is not a “Phobia”.
Bay0Wulf
Level 8
Mar 10, 2020
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I must agree with your rationale
Islamaphobia is a phony term invented by the progressive left in an attempt to unjustly point the finger at that those who dare to speak up and question the rather dangerous/disturbing doctrines put forth by Islam. I too question all religions, and I'd say that makes you a truly independent thinker. Never stop thinking for yourself, for the instant you stop doing so is the instant someone else with an agenda will attempt to step in and do your thinking for you.
SpikeTalon
Level 10
Mar 10, 2020
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True enough. "Anti-Islamic bigotry" would be a better term.
@Terence57 Sometimes. Every doctrine from the middle ages or earlier has some primitive parts. Christian theology too. If you focus on that and ignore the main lessons of each doctrine in order to whip up anti-Immigrant feeling, or anti-Muslim, then that's bigoted.
Trump is now blaming the Chinese too, btw. He'll do most anything to win.
@damo9f
I'm going to stay on point, here. If someone takes reprehensible actions based on a word-for-word doctrine that is the source of those actions---there is no definitional bigotry in dealing w/ such an individual, group of individuals, or cohort of any size. Bigotry-as-such is exclusive of those concerns. Naming the persons and the source of their actions is not only not bigotry, it is necessary.
casting the first stone is one of my favourite phrases, especially to point out hypocrasy and all faiths are filled with hypocritical interpretations
to be open minded one must begin with a criticism of their own belief system otherwise you should not criticize the other ......not that i follow my own advise all the time, i am human and to be human is to err
@jpnese
Again---There is no need to embelish. Apples to apples. Keep it simple. What is the source of the teaching and what does it say---
Are you at risk living next door to someone who follows the direct teachings of a Jesus or a Buddha, or of a Mohammad. Who is imploring and who is demanding? Who says "render unto Caesar" and who allows no demarcation between the secular and sacred realms?
There is no equivalency, appeasment, or mutual satisfaction available. When the best thing you can say about someone's code of conduct or religious belief is that they don't actually follow it, you know all you need to about that system.
@Terence57 - in the last few posts you're talking about "The New Testament" and "Jesus." Does this mean you reject that the Old Testament is part of the Christian religion?
It clearly says to stone people.
If you pick and choose your books in the bible when talking about Christians, maybe we can similarly point to the more modern books and stories from Islam? "Islam" itself is a derivitave of "Salaam" = "Peace."
Seems like you're using different standards only when evaluating Muslims.
@damo9f
You've heard the phrase, "New Covenant."[biblehub.com]
There's bunches. You don't have to be a scholar to find this stuff. I'm sure as hell not one.
You're getting into the weeds. Jesus said what he said. Whatever the failings of persons and institutions which purport to follow Him, he said what he said. Muhammad said what he said. Sane people don't generally follow, or advocate following people whose solutions boil down to denigrating, taxing or killing people who don't see it your way. Sane people don't kill or advocate killing people who decide to pick a different path than the one they're on. And sane people don't look for ways to justify any of that.
Pick your elixer, poison, whatever. "There ain't no 'taters where yer diggin."
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