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Anybody aware of any models of prehistoric, pre-cultural social organization that isn't hunter-gatherer?

govols 8 Mar 1
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Hello. Is this the kind of information you're looking for?

Archaeologists have found strong evidence that wheat and barley were refined into cereals 23,000 years ago, suggesting that humans were processing grains long before hunter-gatherer societies developed agriculture.

[news.harvard.edu]

YES! Thanks for the starting point...

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I'm not sure what you mean by this question, but I recently read a book by Tom Steel called the Life and Death of St Kilda, which gives a fascinating account of what happened to that isolated community from the mid 17th Century to the 1930's, from hunter gatherer to subsistence farming, subsidy and extinction.
Religion and disease, and "tourism" all playing their part.

Found this article: [news.harvard.edu]
Oven - Would you believe it?!

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There seems to be evidence of pre-global flood civilizations. Such as the buried pyramids in the Crimea.

Hello. Found this article, if you're interested:
[news.harvard.edu]

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The only alternative to self-sustainment is to be a parasite.
You can imagine a warrior clan that survived by taking food from the hunter/gatherers, rather than acquire it themselves; like Cave Pirates. 😀
But they would be entirely dependent on their victims for their own survival; which is always the case, whether you're a tapeworm, a Cave Pirate, or a Socialist. 😀

So, evidence of their existence should be co-located with those hunter/gatherer societies, and I don't know of any.

I guess a nomadic group, that survived just by 'grazing', would be something different...

Hello. Found this article, if you're interested:
[news.harvard.edu]

@Naomi Hi Naomi. Cool, thanks! 🙂

"The only alternative to self-sustainment is to be a parasite." That's a good analogy for the Democrat politicians . . . .success by living off the gains from others without having to go to work.

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The alternative is agricultural?

Hello. Found this article, if you're interested:
[news.harvard.edu]

@Naomi

Thank you

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There wasn't much else to do, was it? I should imagine our caveman ancestors didn't spend a great deal of time on bio- farming 😉

Well, I don't know of, and can't find any other ideas of very early societies, but I'm trying to avoid allowing ignorance to become certainty. So, I tossed out a question to the membership to see what pops up.

@govols

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. If there aren't things documented, fossilised, painted on the walls of caves, .... etc there's a good chance it's because they weren't in existence.

One of my friends is an accomplished archeologist/anthropologist. She always jokes about this: "if you dig a site hoping to find remaining of early telegram system lines, and you can't find any wire, you can't turn around and say, well they must have had wireless systems' 😎

@Lt-JW They were already baking, would you believe it?! 😂
[news.harvard.edu]

@Naomi

I personally believe there are questions we would never find answers to no matter what. One of them is; how and when we originated?

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