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Abortion bans failed in the 19th century. They'll also fail in the 21st-
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SpikeTalon 10 Sep 16
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Some one needs to pay better attention. 2246 fetal bodies at a Doctors house. Really!!!

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About half of the patients that receive an abortion don't survive the operation.

Murder bans, theft bans, ... "Reason" totally misses on this one. I'll also point out that trashing Roe v Wade does not change New York or California's stance on abortion. Suggesting that it will return abortion to an underground practice is fear mongering.

If it was overturned at a Federal level, states that still support such will face more backlash over their laws, just as sure as the pro lifers face backlash in certain states for trying to enact restrictions. No fear mongering on this one, plenty of women died back in the times when abortion was illegal, and even back then there was an underground support system, I have no reason to believe that would be any different nowadays. Government bans do not work, that has been demonstrated time and time again. Regardless of my personal disdain for abortion procedures, the Government involving itself in personal affairs such as reproductive business is far too intrusive.

Regarding the first part of your comment, did you mean nowadays or back then when it was illegal? If you meant nowadays, you're way off on that one, as I personally know quite a few women who had abortions and they are fine to this day and one woman had six abortion procedures and still gave birth three times.

@SpikeTalon Its a play on terms. In every abortion the child dies.

Of course if there is no child, then there should be no restriction or concern about abortion. If there is a child that dies, then government, even from a libertarian POV, has a role to play in the preservation of life. And, as with murder and theft, even if the practice still pervades, the government remains correct in obstructing it.

@RobBlair The problem there though is that abortion was already ruled a legal procedure, the argument over whether abortion is murder is a moot point as there is still much debate over such. While there are certainly some pro life libertarians, the platform as a whole generally supports the pro choice stance. This is one topic where there is much division, and each side feels they are the correct ones. I think education is the key, the more people are educated the less likely they may seek an abortion right away. I do get your point though.

@SpikeTalon Are you saying that some Libertarians think murder should be legal?

@dmatic Abortion = murder may be your opinion, which is fine, but others may view the issue differently than you and not consider such murder. Personally, when it comes to the abortion debate I don't care for either side, as each side believes their stance is the correct one.

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