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Why I Changed My Mind About Evil! (I Was WRONG)

What do you all think of JP's recent monologue on good versus evil?

KeithThroop 9 Aug 19
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Sears displays the process of maturity in faith. He is growing and that growth is reflected in his videos.

Much like Cornilius and Lydia seeking God while not yet saved in the book of Acts. He still needs to trust Christ and to receive Him as his Saviour to close the loop. That is the moment of conversion.

@eschatologyguy Isn't it fun watching it come into being?

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The devil is not creative, he imitates and perverts what God has created. Satan knows Gods word better than we do. Over and over the Bible instructs parents to raise their children to remember God’s commands and works, but satan has tried to take that responsibility and shift the obligation of raising children to the government. It seems harmless at first, but it is not the role of government. When we ignore God’s defined roles for parents, families, church, and government it will always lead to the break down of society. God is true and creative, satan will imitate those traits and try to appear truthful and creative, but he is deceitful by his very nature. We can not pretend that something false is ever of God.

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It may seem strange or bizarre but consider Isaiah 45:7

JP has it as 'G-D is all about freedom' & Satan is all about control ~ it might be an insight for some who are coming out of the slumber of spiritual darkness or they are becoming aware and starting to mature/grow up - spiritually. The screenshot of JP made me think of the cross message to Christians.

What I think of good vs evil is exemplified borrowing the words of a fictional character Thulsa Doom and what he says to Conan:

"My child, you have come to me my son.
For who now is your father if it is not me?
I am the wellspring from which you flow.
When I am gone, you will have never been.
What would your world be, without me? My son."

Deception, sanctimonious projection of establishing the boundaries, and the contradiction/hypocrisy of being gone, questioning your reality, and the usual 'what if' or generally consistently the liberal will say "imagine".

Its not the kind of "do whatever you like" freedom. There's the freedom to do what we ought, and that equates with liberty in my book. A free-for-all with everyone doing his own thing will only result in problems

@eschatologyguy "In those days there was no king in Israel and everyone did what was RIGHT because he could see it." (My paraphrase)

@FuzzyMarineVet it was "doing right in their own eyes." Sounds innocuous enough, until you read what they actually did, which was chase after other gods.

I think what the ancient Israelites did was something like what we would refer to today as having all of their bases covered with regard to other gods. Pretty human choice. Much like some Chinese would have the statue of Buddha side by side with the statue of Mary. And many Filipinos having Catholic symbols with a statue of Buddha in their wall altars or small china cabinets.

@Weltansicht I've always wondered why the Almighty has not destroyed yet the fallen watchers. Then I came across this passage.

Jeremiah 31:35-36
"Thus saith the LORD, which giveth the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar; The LORD of hosts is His Name: If those ordinances depart from before Me, saith the LORD, then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before Me for ever."

I'm entertaining the probability that when the Almighty assigned the supervision of the nations to these watchers, He must have sworn an oath that it was for keeps. That's why they remain for now. Which also necessitates God rolling up creation "like a garment" after He has saved those who believed from among Israel and from among the ingrafted gentiles, and this happens at the end of Messiah's thousand year reign. And that would be after the third day of Hosea 6:1-2, when all thus saved will then live "in His sight."

Hey, you will have God-vetted migrants! 😁

@eschatologyguy Bring them on. If only Congress would fix the system so they don't have an underclass of serfs in America and everyone living here can enjoy the same liberty, then we can invite more people to come without being exploited.

@FuzzyMarineVet I was actually talking about us Gentile believers who will be ingrafted into the commonwealth of Israel as the God-vetted migrants 😊

@eschatologyguy I am familiar with it, I always thought verse 37 was the compelling driving force behind the science push to 'explore' the depths, of the oceans and space.

I hold to Jeremiah 31:31-34 and that 35-37 as a carrot stick of sorts of vanity for those of the agnostic variations.

If you believe in G-D and G-D doesn't exist, so what? You have lived a life of delusion and by your choice.

If you don't believe in G-D and G-D does exist, you're screwed by your volition.

G-D laughs at them and holds all accountable to derision. Psalm 59:8 ~> which is where/why I try to laugh at everything while I have a very somber outlook personally, maybe maniac depressive sort of 😲🥴👀😝🤣🤪😲 then again takes alot to really provoke me 😉

@eschatologyguy Amen.

@Weltansicht Psalm 59:8 definitely refers to the pre-church age, post-church age and mid-church age heathen that reject His Anointed, that deny the band between God and His Son. Another passage that would give additional light to this would be Psalm 2.

Psalms 2:1-3,7,12
[1]Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?
[2]The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against His anointed, saying,
[3]Let us break Their bands asunder, and cast away Their cords from us.
[7]I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto Me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten Thee.
[12]Kiss the Son, lest He be angry, and ye perish from the way, when His wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in Him."

And who's the "Him" there? The Son, of course. Jacob's Trouble is coming to shake Israel awake from her unbelief. Talking about Messiah, Hoseah 5:15 says "I will go and return to My place, until they acknowledge their offence. In their affliction, they will seek Me earnestly."

When Israel acknowleges her offence and seek Him earnestly, that's the time He will return. He just said "I will go and return to My place," didn't He? That means He already came, and Israel's rejection of Him caused the smiting of 70AD and the subsequent Diaspora. But despite the coming Jacob's Trouble that will utterly humble Israel (and every other nation on earth), it ends well with the Kingdom of David re-established.

When the Roman occupiers denied the Sanhedrin the right to institute capital punishment, the early rabbis bewailed it, walking around in sackcloth and ashes as they thought the scepter had already departed from Israel. Unknown to them, there was already a baby born in Bethlehem that would wield the scepter. And He is from everlasting.

@Weltansicht Islam is the only heathen system that comes to mind that actively wants to break this band. In their Islamic escathology, they have this islamic messiah called the Mahdi, his sidekick who they refer to as the returned Yeshua (who returns to break crosses and tells nominal professing Christians to convert to Islam). And they also have an "antichrist" that they must all fight against under pain of hellfire. And guess who they label as the "antichrist" and fight against? Israel's Messiah. Explains Psalm 2, doesn't it?

@eschatologyguy I am not sure I follow your explanation on Islamic escathology; I am not as well read on Quran as I am on other things, it is repetitively boring to me on most things. However, my understanding of it from Anjīlīn Tarom Sofla ( انجلين ) is you are referring to al-Masīḥ al-Dajjāl.

The Muhammad al-Mahdi is supposed to emerge in the end time to bring truth, peace, justice and redemption to Islam.

There is no one who understands these things or stands with G-D on these things, by Divine Decree, except the chief prince of the children of Israel. Daniel 10:21

@Weltansicht

As I understand it, Michael is the faithful watcher assigned to the nation of Israel. He is not the Messiah, as I understand it

The one Islam will be labeling as al-Dajjal will be God's Anointed, Israel's Messiah. They have to be gaslit to believe that the real Messiah is the false one so they'll have the hutzpah to go against Him and make war with Him. Remember Islam wants to eradicate Israel. That should make any self-aware ethnic Israeli suspicious of anything that comes out of their mouth.

And Israel's Messiah? He shows them Who's Boss with Ezek 38:22. Then God sends the 7 shepherds (Micah 5:5-6), AKA the "strangers, the terrible of the nations" to finish the job (Ezek 28:7; 31:12; Isa 14:16). You can use your imagination what weapon they'll be using in Zach 14:12.

After they defeat the invaders, they sadly - I believe - will turn on each other. Like at the close of WW2, but this time it's not with a cold war. Then you'll have Isaiah 25:5 and 29:5.

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Well, I'm with him on some level, but he feels better about it than I do; he believes in God. I have become utterly convinced of evil--though its almost easier to believe in intergenerational conspiracies among factions of the governing elites--and have almost persuaded myself that evil is/has an organizing Spirit. It's really weird knowing the Devil but not knowing God. It's a hard way of understanding the world. Still, the Good, the True, and the Beautiful remain self-evident to me, so I have some hope that someday I'll find the organizing Spirit. There's a lot of me to be burned away if I ever manage it.

It was definitely easier with belief in hand than it is to try to live faithfully without belief.

There are two ultimate world views. One says that we are a product of a cosmic accident, and the other, that we are designed by a Creator. The logical one for me is the latter, as the former doesn't really make sense. There's no meaning in accidents.

@eschatologyguy

That's pretty helpful. Thanks.

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The first step in being able to see evil is the most critically important step. That first step would be an honest self assessment. Try to see the things you say and do that might somehow have an evil component to them and then make an honest effort to change your thinking along those lines.

"...tricked into living the nightmare of evil..." I would say that this "trickery" is self inflicted. People "trick" or "lie to themselves" constantly. They rationalize their evil alliances in hundreds of ways in order that they soothe their guilt by NOT trying to change themselves.

For those who deign to tell others how foolish and stupid they look by their belief in God to have any appearance of sincerity and conviction at all I challenge them to substitute the word "GOD" for the word "Allah"
Only then will we see the strength of their convictions regarding existence of "Deity". Any takers on this challenge? ...didn't think so.

"If you are blind to God then you also are blind to Satan"

A very poignant insight!

No one needs to look outside his own soul to find evil, for evil lies in the heart of every man. The test of righteousness is the ability to cage that evil and express the good that can also be found there along side it.

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Way better than some sermons I've heard in my life.

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