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@spiketalon - posted about rhetoric in some "red states" about wanting to "prohibit interstate travel in pursuit of attaining an abortion

Here is my take on that idea:
Let us know your thoughts on this

Is there really a "move" to prohibit interstate travel for abortion service? Or is it merely rhetoric emanating from people who claim to be absolutely against abortion in any circumstance.
I refer to the the radical "christian mob" - (note lower case "C" in the word christian is intentional). I have no doubt that cultish christian groups like the family of Fred Phelps would be a case in point.

Even if someone who has great Political power and position in any given State wanted to try stopping interstate travel in search for an abortion it would be impossible to enforce. It is an absurdity to think such an action could be enforced to the point of making the question moot.

This whole argument it is extremely difficult - next to impossible to enforce. History tells us that all attempts to regulate morality end in complete failure. A valid comparison would be "prohibition" of alcohol in early 20ths century. Another would be the illicit drug trade. In both cases the "laws" prohibiting those things gave rise to a highly violent and Profitable underground / Black Market trade. It also created negative outcomes of a seriously clogged judicial system and profoundly overcrowded Prison facilities.

Almost certainly prohibition against abortion will do the same. There will be illicit, underground ways for people to get abortion where it is prohibited by State law.

The old saw - "you can't legislate morality" will ring loudly and true in the matter of prohibited abortion. Gradually, over time localities will cease to "enforce" the law. Exactly as has been done regarding the sale, purchase and possession of marijuana localities will cease to pursue enforcement.
It will become tacitly "legal" in the absence of active enforced prohibition.

When that happens my only wish is that the financial burden for abortions will NOT be borne on the shoulders of the taxpayers - in any way, shape or form.
In other words where the words "abortion" and "tax monies" are concerned the two should NEVER be used in the same sentence.

Prohibition of abortion is one thing - Use of Public funds (tax money) is quite another.
I am arguing that "Prohibition" in practical terms should not apply to Abortion itself (because it really cannot be practically nor effectively enforced) but on the use of Public funds for it.

In my mind this removes the burden of moral culpability from the general public and leaves it solely upon the collective conscience of the people who seek out promote and acquire abortion for themselves and others.

iThink 9 July 1
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Seems more of a Thought Experiment than anything that's likely to materialize.

Maybe - the point of posting is to stimulate discussion and debate. I like and appreciate when things I post or comments I make evoke responses from other users.
Nevertheless; I honestly believe that some form or level of permissiveness (with regard to Abortion) will ultimately come to pass in all 50 States.
With that in mind it seems logical - probable even - that the legal residents of each State would insist on the Funding for Abortion should come from the Private Sector and NEVER from the Public Sector.
Tax Paying citizens should NEVER become involuntary supporters of Abortion. If they wish to contribute voluntarily then so be it.
In all likelihood most voters would accept those terms.
This seems like a near perfect resolution to the debate on Abortion.

@iThink
Completely agree.

On the issue of Elective Abortion, the pragmatic arguments on either side were tossed aside.

My contention has been for a long time that if the legislatures (or even congress) had limited elective abortions to 12 to 15 weeks, the Pro-Life movement wouldn't have garnered enough support to win a bar fight.

As it stood, when Choice proponents forced the issue of elective abortion up to the point of birth (and beyond) normal people were backed into a corner------and most of us chose to err on the side of Life. What the Court did was simply identify Roe V Wade as a complete non-sequitur, which it is. The original Opinion was a jumbled mess. Even Bork said that he could envision Legislative action that would make abortion legal in all 50 states, but that Roe V Wade could not be justified on Constitutional grounds.

Thanks. T

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On a side note, did not receive a notification for this post despite the fact you tagged me in it, probably due to usernames being case sensitive I guess. Stumbled across this post by chance.

so sorry! I thought by tagging you that you were notified.

@iThink Think the tags are case sensitive, must be exactly like the username, otherwise it won't work. All good though.

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You can say that prohibitions of any sort would be doomed to eventually fail (which you'd be right about) based on such not being able to be enforced by the authorities all you like, but that still doesn't remove the fact that there are prohibition zealots out there who will try to ban interstate travel for women seeking abortions. Based on what I've observed over the years on the topic along with some present day examples, I don't think that is merely empty rhetoric from disgruntled prohibitionists, the talk is very real and currently going on. That said, it remains to be seen just how strong of an attempt(s) there will be to follow through on that idea, and we're going to find out soon enough.

Just because something is technically impossible to go through on, does not automatically mean stubborn (albeit rather dumb) human beings still won't attempt it, and let's face it some of those anti-abortion folks can be quite stubborn and determined in their respective quest.

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Hear ! Hear!👏🏻👏🏻

thanks

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