Him I don't have any wifi just on my phone I just wish people to better research thanks

Just want people aware to research on their own

You missed the point of the post. Starting conversation is a good way to share information and research of. Some information was removed from the post due to pictures being lost so my intented reason was to make sure people do their own checking into it first. Thank you for your comment

There has been research done that shows low sperm counts in young men. The reason for the post was to make sure people do their own research we are responsible for our children.

Intresting way of thinking very cool

The earth's atmosphere protects us from most of the radiation, outside of it we need protection or you fry. Solar radiation will burn your skin after a couple of hours unless you cover up or have a high factor suncream.

I never said either Way if you read the whole post you could see I just want people to make sure they do so to be safe and educated

@Gerri4321 Why would you encourage people to “do their own research” about something, unless you thought there was a reason for them to be concerned about it?

@InternetDorkWeb because we all should be responsible to keep our family safe. And the have been reports of low sperm counts in young men, and we are responsible for the future generations

I never said I was for or against 5G it was a conversation starter and a think before you jump at best and cell phones in pockets and low sperm counts another concern to consider

Seen not done? Never let someone do the research for you

@Gerri4321 Oh OK.. I better get researching all of these cancer treatment options that are available these days. Very complex and there are 100's of them. 'Cause I may get cancer some day. And I wanna be a smart shopper.. and I need to do my own research NOT rely on someone elses. MMMmmK

@Gerri4321 Show me your research then ... I mean, seriously, "never let someone do the research for you" is how we stayed stuck in caves of over 100,000 years before we started communicating that research by other means...

Who do you believe on subjects? Why? How was the research conducted? What was the control? What or how many samples were involved?

See, your logic fails, and while i get you being afraid of something you can't see or can't get your noodle around - making literally dumb statements like what I quoted doesn't get you anywhere.

Can 5g (hell, ANY) electromagnetic waves do damage and possibly cause cancer? Yes. No Doubt. But it is NOT limited to 5g and it's NOT as great a hazard as any one of a hundred other things I can list out for you.

Sunlight causes cancer - so maybe we should ban it, right? (btw, that's electromagnetic radiation as well...)

@Paisley_Pirate my point was to not only let other's do the research for you. We all are responsible to do are own research to keep are family safe so if you go to one source and look and it say's safe and never look past that your not researching enough souces to get all information possible to make a safe well infromed choice

@Gerri4321 - fair enough - but it wasn't really what you said. You are absolutely correct though, in stating to not take only one study - note why I said a bunch of times across this thread to you and others, when you start looking, look at what the methodology was in the studies.

I've worked and played around EM pretty much my entire life - from CB radios to remote control, to wifi and direct LOS communication systems to large size motors and generators that throw off their own EM impulse - I can show you how to use a Gauss meter to get readings off of electricals. I teach about EM "noise" in classes about industrial automation. I keep up wthi this stuff because I am interested in it... and seeing a lot of the hype about something that has quite literally been around for a lot of years, with enough studies to choke a horse, with those studies showing slight upticks that are there, but close/ within the margin of error every time - except those times when people who want to stop EM communications for other reasons (following the money here) decide to show how "BAADDDD and SCAARRRYYYY" EM can be - THAT is why I am more than a bit skeptical.

Just like now, in my county, we have a movement to stop a new wind farm from being built because it "Causes Cancer" - (from EM "noise" ) - it's bogus and driven in no small part by the natural gas and oil producers who don't want their oil taken out by other sources of energy. (Had to dig around the internet for over an hour to find that one out... but follow the money is always a good way to find motivation)

@Paisley_Pirate you got to know and the only way to know is to look long deep wide and follow the Rabbit I just want the next Generation to be safe it is on us to be sure.

@Gerri4321 Agreed on that! Keep looking - ESPECIALLY when they say "the science is settled"... that's about the time I grab my wallet.

There are just a lot more things out there that can damage us - chemicals especially - EM isn't so big a deal, as we are already exposed to it from the Sun and in a lot stronger doses than what these cell phones do - That said, yes, use some common sense in how you use it.

I'll make this my last statement: from the many studies I've read through (and yes, many) the reality is , the most dangerous way your cell phone is to you is if you are talking or texting on it while driving. Period. And it's not even close. Hang Up and Drive!

@Paisley_Pirate thank you for you sad but thoughtful memories. My Father worked the Steele mills and passed away at 50 from lymphoma many from the mill did. I read many stories like yours sorry for your loss.

@Gerri4321 Thank you, and sorry for your loss, as well. My dad was 62 when he died, and I don't dwell on the down. I am very blessed to have the shop he built behind their house that we used to work on cars and do all kinds of crazy builds of stuff - I go there and talk with him sometimes (a lot of times, to be honest) and feel his presence there.
He was the one that got me hooked on CBs and radio at an early age, and why I got so good at electrical controls systems. My nephew is a Master Electrician now because (at least in part) to hanging around with his Paw-Paw and learning how stuff worked.

I hope you remember the good times. Those are the important ones.

@Notestine read the whole post. Or stay silent

@Gerri4321 Read all of your post. Commented on your post. Guessing you're a 'Flat Earther;'

@Gerri4321 In your brief bio there are 14 spelling and grammatical errors. If you want to be taken seriously on any social media, you should probably have someone competent fix that up for ya.

Thanks for the laugh lmao

@Notestine anyone who points out and counts the mistakes as this has no agurment on the subject thanks for commenting anyway.

@Notestine read the bible to find the truth or not your chioce.

T totally agree with your assessment of the paranoid hysteria over the 'new thing' that's always present. Microwave ovens were scary when they first came out etc. With the number of cell phones in almost constant use... if they were a significant cancer threat.. we'd have huge numbers of victims. You also nailed the 'low voltage' aspect. Unlike sunshine (Melanoma) , I haven't seen any data that firmly ties cell phone use to any cancer. There's a little out there that suggests that they 'MAY' cause cancer.

Nasa means to deceive in Hebrew scientists? trust scientists? I think I will stick with the research that I found to military and other connections

@Gerri4321 well, in that case get rid of your WiFi before it cooks your brain

WiFi uses the same frequency bands as microwave ovens, just like your point that the Military uses the cell phone bands so of course military=bad, so therefor 5g is bad

And what's this Hebrew scientist? You saying it's a Jewish/NASA conspiracy?

Whatever

@Phrankhs you came to the conclusion of jew, hebrew conspiracy not me. I just said the meaning of the word. Military bad by you your opinion. I don't have wifi on on phone.

Honestly, my biggest worry is colon or some other waist region cancer. I wear mine in a belt holster almost all the time, and it pings signal to the cell tower... I could get something eventually... but I know that the risk of that is not zero, it's also not large by any stretch... the crap in my food is more likely to kill me.

@Gerri4321 You are giving Phrankhs grief for "you came to conclusion of jew, hebrew conspiracy" - yet you are the first one to mention this "Nasa means to deceive in Hebrew scientists?" How else would he jump to this line of thinking except YOU asked for it.

I see elsewhere in here you mention you have epilepsy and other neurological damage - perhaps you may wish to check your meds - and I mean this sincerely, and with no animosity at all - you aren't making much sense.

@Paisley_Pirate I was not giving anyone grieve for anything just saying what the word means does not mean assuming I believe in a jew nasa conspiracy is true. But the point I was trying to make is nasa has lied about a few thing's in history

@Gerri4321 Well, I know they faked the moon landings - they had Stanley Kubrick do them . He was such a perfectionist that he insisted they be filmed ON LOCATION... (sarcasm)

Sorry, couldn't resist. AFA NASA failures and lies - sure, they are a government agency and yes, I agree, they do lie sometimes - generally when it gains them something politically. 5g research? Not sure what their angle would be to drive them to lie about that one? They've come out on a lot of other things as being cancerous or other health related issues so I don't see why this one would be different?

@Paisley_Pirate I really just want people to be aware and safe

@Gerri4321 Again, reasonable!

Look, For further understanding of why I get into risk assessment - my father was in the US Navy in the early 1950s, and was on decontamination crew for 3 different ships that were used as targets by Nukes in the US Military testing program out in the Pacific. They would board and clean those ships as they were being towed back to San Diego area to be used for target practice off California.

After 3 trips, he and his section were transfered to another ship, and they went on a WestPac tour - they got as far as Yakuska, Japan, and were all sicker than dogs - bluntly, it was radiation sickness - a Japanese doctor knew what it was, and they got iodined etc and surgeries on the fast spreading cancers etc.

Dad not only lived through that, several years later got married, had several kids, and had cancer again in 1969-70 - my young childhood is remembering St. Johns Hospital and the Nuns who would sit in the waiting room with us while Mom was up with Dad. He was operated on for gall bladder cancer and got better.

Several years after that, they found out he hadn't been released to go back to work - he went back to the Dr that did the operation, who didn't believe he was the same person. After he told the doctor what was said when he was being put under, the doctor then got really curious - and asked about an hours worth of questions regarding diet, exercise and life habits - some of which are now part of cancer treatment regimen - Dad beat those odds...

The radiation finally killed him, but it took until 2000 to do it. He got to see all his grandkids get born and all that kind of stuff. And the US Government recognized his death as "Service Related" -

None of us kids had any ill effects from the ionizing radiation he was exposed to (that we know of ) and though we lost one sibling at 6 weeks to an allergic reaction to immunizations (which meant the rest of us went years long on ours) and we each have some allergies (thanks both Mom AND Dad for that) it wasn't radiation that caused that, either.

I realize I'm getting way off the weeds here - but the point is, from the individual perspective, I may well be a really really far outlier, but I understand that if I do something not normal, I will inherently be taking on risk - where if I sit in the dead center and never take any risks, the bad things can still happen.

This is why I do question some of the hell-bent "sky is falling" ism of the anti-radiation movement - a lot of people don't understand what can and cannot happen with radiation ( and EM radio waves are a form of radiation) - plus the years doing radio AND the study I do on the side to help mitigate "noise" (errant radio interference down control lines induced from high voltage to low voltage lines etc) are something that I have gotten to know and understand. And with that understanding comes the draining away of the fear that some people would have us live under.

If you read all that, thanks (and apologies) but I think sometimes understanding where a person comes from is kind of important.

Cheers!

@Paisley_Pirate My father was a seaman at the Bikini Island testing. He and the other swabbies were sent out on deck after the detonation to mop up the heavy water that had rained down on his ship, They were later told that they would most likely be sterile, but hey, sorry! Gladly, the docs were wrong. Four living boys from six pregnancies, and mostly healthy as far as we can tell. Hard to believe they were STILL doing this shit in the 50's, they definitely knew better by then.

@Psykozen Yes, this was like 1956 or 58, but yeah they did clear into the 60's. Dad outlived all of his bunkmates that he kept up with by 20 years. He had some really odd blood issues - not going to lie - the craziest one I remember was, when I was about 15 or so, he had a mustache, and one night one side of it just fell out. As did some huge clumps of hair in other spots all over his body - literally overnight this showed up. Went to the doctor, who told him the cholesterol in 1 egg would have been enough to push a stroke or heart attack, and the hair falling out was caused by fatty pockets just under the skin caused by extremely high cholesterol. They struggled for years getting his blood chemistry anywhere near normal.
Also, he absorbed so much that when they x-rayed him, his bones glowed in the xrays. Crazy talk - and probably sounds improbable coming off the internet, but I swear it's true.

Also got my first taste of full redaction by the government when I was a teenager. They got his service medical records - his copy was something like 90 pages. Had his name and service number at the top, and everything else on every page was redacted. There was one physician at the VA in the entire state that could look at his files. The cool part was, once they started talking about it, within a couple of months, we had done a bunch of research at the library and sent off letters to Japan to find out about longer term treatments from radiation exposure. Our government sure didn't do much, except Mom got a nice letter from President Clinton thanking Dad for his sacrifice.

Great point!

They like lots of other frequencies, as well.... look up ULF as an example... (or an example of why your statement really doesn't mean a whole lot...)

Sorry guys, lots of years playing with radio and wifi and other electromagnetic energy - makes me a bit jaded towards anyone hating on any of it... I do absolutely know that EM energy can cause damage - however, the risk assessment on it is pretty solidly on the side of "safe" so long as you don't get stupid with it (like climb up a 5g or any other cell tower while it's active...)

I have epilepsy and nerve damage in may brain and eyes I can feel the effects of light and when I sleep with with my cell phone or not.

Gerri not getting too open, but if you "feel" cell phones being transmitters use caution in crowds. With 5G network all phones will be transmitters using smaller microwaves sending more atoms through everything. No one knows how much the average person can take, you and I, with millions of others, are not average. Radiation is basicly electrons going through you, so "they" are guessing the type and how much, no proof because it has never been done long term.

I disagree with the research I have done and others as you can see I left the source of this information available so it can be reseached

Physicians for Safe Technology

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Well for some reason i can't respond to the post itself. Text is all whacky & it won't paste so i'm editing this response to add the means by which i'm keeping it off my house.

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@Tommy6915 thank you that was my intention to get people to share information and research before jumping on board.

@Gerri4321, i'll let you know how it goes