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Love?
What does it mean to love someone?
Is it easier to love than to be loved?
Love is a word so easily and often said, but what does it truly mean? When I tell my children, I love them I mean that I would lay down my life for them, or take another’s, life to protect them. That I will give up my desires and labor on their behalf.
When I tell my wife that I love her, I mean that I have bared all that is vulnerable within me, my pride, my ego, my hopes and dreams, my fears and insecurities. That I promise to give no other any of myself and that I will stand fast in times of trouble. And that I trust in her to seek what is best for me and to do me no harm.
I do not know that I have ever felt “loved”. I know that I am loved. My mother, my wife, my children. Friends and mentors, those I’ve helped along the way, all these have spoken of their love for me, and many demonstrated the truth of their words. And yet……
So, great sages of IDW, tell us of love and life and the things we must all learn.
Or stop by "Eclectic Encyclopedia " Group and besiege the sages with your own questions, comments and observations
#Love #Philosophy#Relationships#Friends#Family

Boardwine 8 Apr 19
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We used to think that love came from God. Then God died and we figured out that it has an evolutionary and biological basis.

Thinking about it just now, I've loved 4 people in my life. My kids, my first girlfriend, my mother. I've held deep affection for some other people, but love is not a word I use lightly.

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Wow, not enough ink in my computer to do justice to those questions but I will comment on one teeny tiny bit. You said you've never felt love. You think you are loved but never felt it.

Being loved given you strength and confidence. Knowing some one is there for you no matter what happens is like a barrier to stress. Not feeling anxious, I think, is heavy influenced to the degree you believe you are loved.

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Well, at least you asked a simple, concrete question [sarcasm]

Wow. Yeah. Mine's pretty close to yours, I guess. The way it looks to me is I look forward to the next time I spend with my wife. That's never changed. She's my person. But, like most ignorant people, we started taking each other for granted early on. You just forget--get busy and lower the priority you place on each other. About four years ago, we came close to ending our marriage, and that slap in the face was enough to spark a ton of learning and change. Now, our marriage is better than it's ever been. All of the cliches took on real meaning and relevance. We both have some stuff going on now that's pretty rough, but we know we're connected and engaged with each other. Stuff is hard to explain, and that's the best I can do on the romantic one. My young adult kids haven't quite launched yet. I love having them around. I love their young, growing values, and I'm engaged in active relationships with them. I make the mistake of over-mentoring because I want for them to be better than me. That's the main source of conflict. But, it's good. We're functioning ably in our mucked up little system of imperfect people. My family is my life.

I can't write a textbook definition of love. It's too hard. We don't have a very good language in the US for talking about emotions or emotional things--that place when you can only use your hands a lot in ways that also don't help you communicate sense. Have to think about this some more.

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According to the Greeks of Old. There are.about 7 types of Love:.Eros, Storge , Philia, Agape, Philautia, Pragma and Ludus. One of these may transmite.int another over time or can be a combination of... something like a marriage.

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Love is very valuable to me my husband has in the most simple to the most impossible ways proved his love for me And I to him. It is so much more than a word respect, honor, life, death, growth, fear, comfort, 1000's of words and meaning are meant to be represented in the little word LOVE

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Love, properly defined, is a verb: placing what is best for another person before your own desires.

Our culture mistakenly thinks love is a 'warm, fuzzy feeling comprised of rainbows, kittens, and glitter.' That's why our culture has a divorce problem, and more generally has difficulty having serious, committed relationships.

P.S. - if you're having relationship troubles, find The Five Love Languages online. Take the quiz with your partner, and learn how to effectively show love to each other. There's even an app to help you practice it until it becomes a habit.

Then, get Real Love in Marriage by Greg Baer and do the workbook with your partner.

If you want to make it work, those two things are the best advice you'll find.

@jneedler, okay, kittens. That part's true.

@jneedler, I'm hesitant to recommend books myself. Not that there isn't useful information in them. Not that they don't offer unique lenses into various aspects of marriage. But, I find people--and I myself have--walk away feeling like something's missing. There is an important connection to others that isn't recreated well in text. In fact, I find that books nearly always fail to create the safety in the relationship that is necessary to make strong emotional connections.

I like to point back to the dating, early marriage period--back when it all just worked. What was different about then? Well, the relationship is often THE big priority in both partners, safety is absolutely there (not just physical, but physical too)--enough safety where the partners can explore each other and each other's values and hopes.

Once we let other priorities take over and push the marriage/relationship down to accommodate, we start taking each other for granted, and it's a slow decline toward resentment, self-protection, mistrust, boredom, disenchantment, etc. We just make that one critical mistake.

Anyway, I could go on forever on the topic, because it's so important to me. I've read a lot of books, and even the ones I've chosen as most influential don't capture the emotional space needed to repair attachment injuries. You can learn you need to repair the injuries, but they don't really convey how to do it. And, that's the most important part. I'm do a lot of think now about how I can create that safety and embed an emotional experience into text in a way that resonates with real people in real troubled relationships. I don't yet have the answers...

@chuckpo You're right about several things, including probably the kittens.

I've read many, many 'relationship' books in my quest to improve myself/my marriage.

The Five Love Languages is the best book I've found for how to connect emotionally with your partner - I can't recommend it highly enough. And now there's an app, you don't even have to read the book!

Real Love in Marriage better explains my simplistic definition of love (above), but more importantly: it shows how many of our 'natural' (learned) behaviors are actually incompatible with Real Love. It helps you understand what you are doing wrong in your relationship, and why - even if you thought your partner was the problem.

I can't recommend these two highly enough, out of the many, many books I've read. If you haven't seen them, and want real, applicable help for your relationship, these are the best.

@jneedler, I've read Love Languages, even used it. The other one I haven't read, so I'm curious. I'll check it out. You might add Hold Me Tight to your list. It's by Dr. Sue Johnson. That's one of the books I say has really important points, but I've yet to find that space for emotional connecting in books describing what an emotional connection would look like. I think it's an emotional process you have to experience, and you really can't experience that outside of the safety to have the conversation. Even as that safety is created, it's extraordinarily difficult for people to stop protecting themselves and risk again with their partners. So many people are stuck in this negative cycle they don't understand. Takes a bit of work to see it and then respond in a better way. Anyway, love this topic. And, I like your sense of humor.

Hey @jneedler, can you link me to How to Find Real Love in Marriage? I can't seem to find it. Are you sure that's the title? Could it be Real Love in Marriage: The Truth About Finding Genuine Happiness Now and Forever? Is the author Baer?

@chuckpo Yep, that's the one. Sorry for my confusion - my brain remembers ideas and concepts much better than specific words :/

Edit - went back and edited previous comments with the correct info. Thanks for helping me get it right.

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