Absurd? I rest my case. LOL

It would be an absurd question if that was the question! The question was about the possible negative effects on the country of origin.

Hi. thanks for your input. I realise that Canada has a merit-based immigration system. How do you think it's working?

@Naomi Merit based immigration has worked well for many years...not so at the moment as illegal freeloaders are slowing down the legal applicants process time. The government has opened a new department for these illegals and that is costing the average tax payer more and more.We are in a mess here in Canada!

All because of bloody "Peter Pan" Trudeau. XD

@Naomi Our little TURD! fouling up our country with his global socialist ideology!

So, how is the merit-based immigration system supposed to work, especially when it used to work well? Is it like those who wish to immigrate to Canada have to apply while they're still abroad? Or can they just turn up with the intention of finding jobs and apply?

Hi. Thank goodness you understand my question! lol

Hello. I believe that you have a merit-based immigration system. How does that work for overseas skilled workers who wish to work in Australia? Does that mean they have to find jobs in Australia while they're still outside, and then apply for permanent residency?

Actually, a lot more people are leaving New York and California to move to Texas, because NY and CA have Democrat policies that lead to high taxes, less earning potential, fewer jobs, etc.

And yes, as more and more Democrats abandon those leftist sanctuaries because of untenable living/economic conditions ..... Texas is voting more and more Democrat now, voting for the same policies they just fled.

Do people ever learn?

Ah, I knew it wasn't a good example - ignorance on my part. If you could get back to the premise of the discussion, I would be grateful.

Hi. Thanks for your input. I think everybody agrees that all governments are corrupt more or less. When you say "Most migrants send money back to their home country... for example Africa receives more money from the diaspora than from foreign aid.", does it mean that the diaspora are giving their money to their governments and not to their families?

@Naomi they send money to the families. But more often than not the money is used to live lavish lives and isn't invested into anything worthwhile.

@militantMom I grew up in Africa they were more luxurious cars around me than I see around me now in Europe just as example.
You can find kids without birth certificates this day in Africa and according to a 2010 stat 80% of the population did not have a bank account.
The reason why blacks are doing poorly around the world is simply because of the way they deal with money.
You could go the Stefan Molyneux route and say blacks are low IQ to justify the matter, but if you have an exceptional IQ and are a junkie for example, it amounts to nothing.
Being 25 and living with your parents who give you money to get around your daily life is common practice where a 25yo westerner is expected to be already fully independent.

Thank you for your insightful contribution. I thought I sensed something personal in your first comment.

I wouldn't go down the path of IQs. I think there is a flaw to a debate on a general premise like the black have the lowest IQ and the Asian have the highest IQ.

I used to know a Japanese lady who wanted to live in England permanently, and when she failed to fulfil the legal requirements, she asked her rich father to fix all the documents she needed. I eventually lost touch with her and I wasn't sorry. So, while many institutions are corrupt, there are also people who are prepared to break laws in order to get what they want.

Meanwhile, I think there are people who care about the homelands they belong to, wherever they may be, like the physician BrunosDad talks of. I also met an Indian doctor who works in England and he spends some of his own earnings to make prosthetic limbs for those back in India. When I was a student, I met some African students on campus. Some were mature students and were already qualified engineers and architects. I think they were in England on some kind of exchange scheme, so they were taking home with them whatever they learnt in England so that they could utilise it to further develop their countries. There are many stories like these, I'm sure, but I feel it a little wrong that these good people are doing admirable things out of their own pockets...

I wholeheartedly support individual liberty. Of course, who wouldn't like to have a better life? Why not emigrate to another country if that's where opportunities lie for you to do better? But, I dare say those who can actually do that are lucky ones. Other less fortunate ones are still there stuck in the status quo.

Everyone knows that we can't save the world (well, apart from SJWs, perhaps), but we all want our friends and families to do well, right? We need good education, good vocational programs. good healthcare, good welfare, good housing, good transport systems... good everything. And we need well-educated, skilled people to realise these things for us, right?

You talk about foreign aid. Do you know how it is normally utilised on the receiving end in Africa? Is it likely just absorbed by the corrupt governments and not spent for those who really need it?

@Naomi The situation with foreign aid is quite simple to explain:
The population never sees a dime of it.
Whenever you donate to charity, most of the money is spent to run said charities, then if you are lucky a school/orphanage/village irrigation system is built. A ton of pictures of people smiling next to the building are taken, then there is usually no maintenance behind, so within 5 years more aid is needed. think of it like giving a Ferrari to a poor person, he's happy until he realizes to cost of owning it... He'll try to sell it one way or an other before long.
As for government and international aid, once the ribbon is cut, that's the last time you'll see any activity on given inaugurated thing most of the time. We don't need to talk about corruption, it's not that. It's an international bribe hidden as aid. Everyone knows the money never reaches the alleged target, and if a miracle happens and it does, it's because the tap is leaky.

Ah, that's interesting as well as disheartening. When I was much younger, my father used to say "Our country can afford to give lots of money to poor countries, but one has to ask what those poor countries are doing for themselves by themselves.", and his words stuck in my head. While the receivers are guilty for not appropriately utilising the money given to them , I think that the givers are just as guilty as the receivers for feeling good about themselves by giving away money and not helping address the fundamental problems. It's like I give money to an alcoholic homeless person, because I feel good about myself by doing it, only to let him/her buy more alcohol and not helping him/her come off alcohol. Like I said, we can't help the world as individuals, nor can we come up with any solution, but this is definitely something we should think about. Thanks ever so much for your contribution. I feel I've learnt a lot. All the best.

Thank you for thinking so hard. I'll gladly wait for more thoughts from you.

Hi. I found this article about merit-based immigration systems, not a specific example as such, but still. Incidentally, the UK doesn't have one nor does the US?
[bloomberg.com]

@Naomi, thank you. I'll check it out.