Shall group on the west coast, nothing since 2017. It's all been overhyped by Trump. They certainly weren't the people who stormed the Capitol. Rose City? Trump never mentioned that.

@Nealjoe sure, so if antifa is an idea so is 'white supremecy' and 'fascism'. None exist other than in theory, apparently, so what are you afraid of? If there are no communist organisations that exist, then no fascist organisations exist. I'm against both nazis and commies (and really, not much difference in their methods or ideology). You though, are a leftist conspiracy theorist.

@Tom81 Not a leftist. I normally vote straight Republican from here on our, I'll split my vote.

@Nealjoe Republican/Democrat it's all the same. If you support antifa or truly believe they haven't had much influence/taken much action this year then you are either misinformed (maybe you have swollowed MSM lies, like many others) or lying.
I spent my teens in the punk scene and have had many run ins with real neo nazis. I have met antifa types and can tell you that they are one and the same. I have lived in the eastern block (before communism fell) and have plenty of relatives that fought against commies and nazis (and everyone says the commies were worse, were more degenerate). Being in the centre, and having experience with both extremes, I can see that both sides have the same aim in mind, even though they spin it differently.

@Tom81 I know one thing. The breach of the US Capitol had NOTHING to do with Antifa. I don't need MSM to tell me how to think. I watched it happen in front of my eyes. I voted for Trump, but I'm sorry I did and I'm glad he lost. He's not Jesus and he's not Uncle Sam. He's disloyal to people who have been loyal to him. I won't be loyal to him. He's just a store loser. He know the election wasn't stolen from him, he just was able to convince people that was the case so he could invoke the Insurrection Act. Almost worked, but it didn't.

“Never argue with a fool. Onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.” - Mark Twain

What is Antifa? Tell me. Are they a secret organization? You know I'm talking about fake, contrived conspiracy theories. There do exist real conspiracies. Trump barely won the first time. He squeezed out wins in key state and lost the popular vote. This time he lost by a lot more and couldn't pull out the electoral vote. 74 million people love him, . But 81 million people hate him. Even more now. Even Mike Pence hates him. How open minded are you? No proof. They went to court 60 times and lost. Mark Twain would agree with me.

@Nealjoe So, when judges sit behind their gavel, are they oath? When someone swears out an affidavit, are they oath? One is answered with a 'yes' and one with a 'no.'

If you don't see the evidence, then you will never see it, no matter what. Republican poll observers were denied access. The videos were out there, youtube probably blocked them by now, but bitchute might still have them.

Even that one, simple fact should be enough to argue for looking more closely at what transpired. But we aren't even given an investigation, the MSM keeps shouting 'no evidence whatsoever' when hundreds of people swore oath to irregularities and we aren't even given a cursory glance by those in power. If you keep counting what was already counted and look into the fact that the Constitution says state legislatures determine how elections are held, then see that in Penn, Geo, Wis & Mich, election laws were changed not by legislatures, but by governors, secretaries of state and supreme courts. So if you keep counting the same stuff, of course you're going to get the same result. A 'recount' is as silly as playing Paper, Rock, Scissors, and when you win with Rock because the other guy had Scissors and he wants a rematch and you say, ok, but you can only use what you did before, well, how's that exploring any new territory?

And can you appreciate the idea that making two incongruous statements back to back is bound to get someone riled up? "I want to hear your conspiracy poison," followed by "open minds are the antidote." Does that truly sound in your mind that you are open? If it does, we really have nothing left to discuss, which is a terrible shame. Debate is awesome when it is truly debate. When it is someone going entirely on emotion, it in itself is poison. Emotion and opinion can never be argued as fact, the left uses this to shut down true debate.

So, if those are two statements you will continue to stand behind, then we have nothing more to say to one another, dude.

@jamesdomus1861 You're right. The judicial system is rigged as well.