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About stupidity
chuckpo comments on May 3, 2019:
Yeah, we're stupid. Ignorance isn't stupid. Not knowing you're ignorant is stupid. If not knowing you're ignorant was an energy, we'd have solved our costless renewable energy problem.
chuckpo replies on May 3, 2019:
@Pate49, no. I didn't take it that way. I'm still trying to get a grip on our conversation as well, haha.
About stupidity
chuckpo comments on May 3, 2019:
Yeah, we're stupid. Ignorance isn't stupid. Not knowing you're ignorant is stupid. If not knowing you're ignorant was an energy, we'd have solved our costless renewable energy problem.
chuckpo replies on May 3, 2019:
@Pate49, arrogance and ego? I'm not. Arrogance and ignorance? Arrogance is ignorant IF it's true we have no justification for being arrogant--which, of course, like everything else breaks down to a judgment--belief.
66%+ Female Grads DO NOT Want To Return To Workforce After "Home Duties" - YouTube
chuckpo comments on May 2, 2019:
1) Missing the obvious, most men don't want to go back to work either. Work often sucks, with little reward beyond the paycheck. Women aren't lazy or crazy. They're smart. We're just terrified to admit to ourselves that men don't want to work either. We should have THAT conversation, but you almost ...
chuckpo replies on May 3, 2019:
@RichardPD, so by what percent is it not rare in Scandinavia? And, how will you quantify social acceptance--especially as you're in the UK? It's rare in Texas and all over the USA. And, judging by not getting ANY pushback from people outside the USA in response to my points, except for you, I'm guessing it's probably rare outside the USA, as well. If you have evidence to support your assertions or some people from Scandinavian countries saying it's not rare there, I'm willing to listen. I have read research on Scandinavian countries and found not everyone agrees over there either. Also, you don't have much cultural variation in those countries. A lot of homogeneity across many factors. As more Muslims integrate around the world, it will be interesting to watch what influence that has on some things--especially religion (obviously) and gender--even sexual preference.
66%+ Female Grads DO NOT Want To Return To Workforce After "Home Duties" - YouTube
chuckpo comments on May 2, 2019:
1) Missing the obvious, most men don't want to go back to work either. Work often sucks, with little reward beyond the paycheck. Women aren't lazy or crazy. They're smart. We're just terrified to admit to ourselves that men don't want to work either. We should have THAT conversation, but you almost ...
chuckpo replies on May 3, 2019:
@RichardPD, so you're saying it's a step in the right direction of true equality? Okay. Choice isn't always a legal matter. Choice without social repercussion is a different beast. Even though a few men stay home with the kids, it's very rare, and society as a whole doesn't accept that as healthy male behavior. Like a lot of things. You can do it, but you're going to pay a pretty steep social price in judgment.
About stupidity
chuckpo comments on May 3, 2019:
Yeah, we're stupid. Ignorance isn't stupid. Not knowing you're ignorant is stupid. If not knowing you're ignorant was an energy, we'd have solved our costless renewable energy problem.
chuckpo replies on May 3, 2019:
@Pate49, hmmmm. I see stupid as choosing ignorance and in a way choosing arrogance--the belief we actually know more than we know, because we mistake belief for knowing. Is that an action? Could be.
66%+ Female Grads DO NOT Want To Return To Workforce After "Home Duties" - YouTube
chuckpo comments on May 2, 2019:
1) Missing the obvious, most men don't want to go back to work either. Work often sucks, with little reward beyond the paycheck. Women aren't lazy or crazy. They're smart. We're just terrified to admit to ourselves that men don't want to work either. We should have THAT conversation, but you almost ...
chuckpo replies on May 3, 2019:
@RichardPD, of course it's funded by taxation. Somebody's gotta work and pay in that system. Sucks if you're someone who'll never use that benefit. You have to work so others can use the benefit. I'm not sure what your topic has to do with my topic. Can you tie them together in a point?
What is so bad about hoping for social justice?
chuckpo comments on May 3, 2019:
Depends on which social justice you're talking about. The social justice concerned with equality of all people, or the weaponized political apparatus used for power and control. The former is cool. The latter is cavernous wind from infernal gasbags.
chuckpo replies on May 3, 2019:
@RichardPD, I'm not sure which part of that isn't self-explanatory. Social justice was hijacked for political power, enforced through the weaponization of political correctness and identity politics. Social justice is a thing, but it's something that got pushed into the background for a different political agenda.
66%+ Female Grads DO NOT Want To Return To Workforce After "Home Duties" - YouTube
chuckpo comments on May 2, 2019:
1) Missing the obvious, most men don't want to go back to work either. Work often sucks, with little reward beyond the paycheck. Women aren't lazy or crazy. They're smart. We're just terrified to admit to ourselves that men don't want to work either. We should have THAT conversation, but you almost ...
chuckpo replies on May 3, 2019:
@RichardPD, cool.
What is so bad about hoping for social justice?
chuckpo comments on May 3, 2019:
Depends on which social justice you're talking about. The social justice concerned with equality of all people, or the weaponized political apparatus used for power and control. The former is cool. The latter is cavernous wind from infernal gasbags.
chuckpo replies on May 3, 2019:
@RichardPD, apologies, but there's almost no way you couldn't have heard of this idea if you're anywhere in western society. Oh look! You are in a western country. Is there a particular word I used that's hanging you up?
What is so bad about hoping for social justice?
chuckpo comments on May 3, 2019:
Depends on which social justice you're talking about. The social justice concerned with equality of all people, or the weaponized political apparatus used for power and control. The former is cool. The latter is cavernous wind from infernal gasbags.
chuckpo replies on May 3, 2019:
@RichardPD, hahaha, I'm sure.
[politico.
Garsco comments on May 2, 2019:
Well, Barr had numerous direct discussions with Mueller over the month before the report was released. Mueller punted on the obstruction question. I thought Barr had very good explanations on the obstruction points before the Senate committee on Wednesday. **Bottom line though is Trump didn't fire ...
chuckpo replies on May 3, 2019:
@ObiRonMoldy **Mueller provided evidence of attempted obstruction, which is still a crime, but he didn't know if he had the legal standing to bring charges for it. See V2 168-178.** Come on. Does that square with you? Is Mueller a lacky? Guy's been around forever. He's like 75 years old, and a lawyer. Barr's 68. There's no reasonable foundation for this stuff--certainly no way any of these clowns get an 'excuse'. Why couldn't Mueller and his cadre of Democrat lawyers come up with a decision? Simple. Because of the politics. And, if that's true, he wasn't doing his job. He/THEY had an agenda. OBVIOUSLY. And, why are you leaving words out from what Mueller (and his team) actually said? Those guys knew what they were doing--as does every single lawyer politician on both sides. This is all extremely gross, and I think we endorse the corruption when we fail to call it all out or play into it.
So, I have 4 kids in jr.
chuckpo comments on May 2, 2019:
I doubt anyone can explain how it's not indoctrination, because it is indoctrination. And, the fact this is spun as 'wellness'? They're making wellness=right thinking. That's NOT wellness. If this is an instrument produced by the mental healthcare profession--which wouldn't surprise me--it's more ...
chuckpo replies on May 3, 2019:
@DrN1, yep we have educational psychology. I have a master's in that along the way. I studied research and statistics, though my interest was more in the philosophy of research, statistics, science as a whole, so I guided my education in that direction to the degree that I could. I also have education in the theory side of psychology on both the clinical side and practical side, though again I guided my practical-side in that manner from within a clinically oriented program. I'm not big on the medical model side of psychology, though I find value in some of the neurobiological research. I was initially drawn to CBT, because I can be brainy in my solutions to problems. I'm learning--trying to learn--to be more emotional and communicate with a more emotional language--to recapture some of the human elements I sacrificed in academic pursuits. I'm quite experiential now in my own orientation--far from that CBT/clinical lens. I've never actually seen education on pedagogy. Maybe that's a European thing. I'd have to look for it here. Conversations often include the pedagogical lens, though rarely is it intentional. How could you avoid it if you even want to? We're having fairly complex epistemological conversations. So, in the case that pedagogy is central to who we are as human beings, it's much older and wider than psychology, for whatever that acknowledgement gains us. Actually, psychology is likewise inseparable from any conversation--embedded into every conversation as we assess, judge, categorize, intuit, interrelate/communicate, etc. It was a field of study long before it was a formal field of study just like people taught and thought about teaching long before formally adopting a pedagogical lens. Man, there's a lot outside of clinical psychology now. The field is really evolving--or continuing to evolve. Tons of stuff there to talk about better than CBT, if you're interested. I find the medical model to be much too restrictive. I'm not completely, but fairly significantly anti-psychotropic. I think there are cases where drugs are justified, but I think we WAY over-prescribe--especially because we want small boys to sit in their seats and behave. But, not just that either. I think we over-prescribe anxiety and depression, and we lose contact with the benefit in our struggles. What it means to be human is that we have good stuff and bad stuff--often learning the most from the bad situations we're in--by chance or by our own making. Anyway, I started rambling...
[politico.
Garsco comments on May 2, 2019:
Well, Barr had numerous direct discussions with Mueller over the month before the report was released. Mueller punted on the obstruction question. I thought Barr had very good explanations on the obstruction points before the Senate committee on Wednesday. **Bottom line though is Trump didn't fire ...
chuckpo replies on May 3, 2019:
@ObiRonMoldy, ugh, right--and there's that point. They WILL drag it out, and since they're all above the law, nothing will happen. It's like that theme picked up in a few movies where there's a battle of immortals. There's no winning and no losing. There's only the monotony of the eternal fight. BTW, I think there's importance in nothing obstructing justice. Even you say Trump failed for this reason and that reason to obstruct justice. So, justice wasn't obstructed. And, we're left with the problem there was no crime (collusion), and there was no obstruction (because Mueller produced the investigation and the report he wanted to). And, then the biggest point. Trump could have ended it all with a command. It's in his executive authority to have ended it, fire Mueller and all of those wildly partisan Democrat lawyers. The end. Trump did NOT do that. Trump did a lot of railing about it, and if he hadn't then the other side would have said that was proof of his guilt. And, THERE is EVERYTHING we need to know about ALL of this. Trump can't win. He would not be allowed to win under any circumstance. Personally, I think he has a pretty strong reason to investigate the absolute shit out of Democrat collusion on multiple fronts. It's all so odd. We know Hillary and the Dems colluded. There's not even a question. They literally did what they're accusing Trump of, and it's not hidden. Period. How is it we can't have that conversation? Well, ONLY because the republicans are cowards, and to be honest, they like being cowards. It's there intention to be cowards--probably covering up their own corruption.
[politico.
Garsco comments on May 2, 2019:
Well, Barr had numerous direct discussions with Mueller over the month before the report was released. Mueller punted on the obstruction question. I thought Barr had very good explanations on the obstruction points before the Senate committee on Wednesday. **Bottom line though is Trump didn't fire ...
chuckpo replies on May 3, 2019:
@ObiRonMoldy, Is Mueller himself, his team, and his report hyper-partisan and/or anti-Trump? I don't think you have to look much further than Mueller's own work, but listen to his good buddy Comey. Comey's telling us everything we need to know about Mueller. This entire thing was and is gravely inappropriate, and I imagine Barr's going to start pulling at threads, and the noise is the rats starting to protest that. But, like I said, they're all lawyers, a ton more shit will be stirred up and nothing will come from it. The whole thing stinks, and if it were up to me I'd clean house and start over--clean it all out--every rancid speck.
And here it is.
chuckpo comments on May 2, 2019:
Moral relativity. Problem is moral relativity is an abstract when applied to particular practice runs into a variety of problems. Everyone can't have their own truth and have laws. It's a contradiction. BUT, those who wield moral relativity as a bad thinking fix all, never want to come out of the ...
chuckpo replies on May 3, 2019:
I'm just killing zombies. They're already dead. I'm just stopping them from moving. More like a public service. I'm like a landscaper.
So, I have 4 kids in jr.
chuckpo comments on May 2, 2019:
I doubt anyone can explain how it's not indoctrination, because it is indoctrination. And, the fact this is spun as 'wellness'? They're making wellness=right thinking. That's NOT wellness. If this is an instrument produced by the mental healthcare profession--which wouldn't surprise me--it's more ...
chuckpo replies on May 2, 2019:
@DrN1, just reading over this, and I wanted to clarify that it is pedagogy, but it's pedagogy from the psychology field. I thought I'd put that into my response, but didn't. If you're talking about 'wellness' and it's not about biology, that is pretty much going to be a topic in psychology.
[politico.
Garsco comments on May 2, 2019:
Well, Barr had numerous direct discussions with Mueller over the month before the report was released. Mueller punted on the obstruction question. I thought Barr had very good explanations on the obstruction points before the Senate committee on Wednesday. **Bottom line though is Trump didn't fire ...
chuckpo replies on May 2, 2019:
@ObiRonMoldy, none of this is about the law. All of those people in and around this are lawyers doing what lawyers do. It stinks, and it's all political. But, you're not going to listen to me. People have already chosen their side and will believe what they choose to believe no matter how much they have to stretch law and reason to do it--look at Kavanaugh. That's exactly what this is. Same book, different chapter.
[politico.
Garsco comments on May 2, 2019:
Well, Barr had numerous direct discussions with Mueller over the month before the report was released. Mueller punted on the obstruction question. I thought Barr had very good explanations on the obstruction points before the Senate committee on Wednesday. **Bottom line though is Trump didn't fire ...
chuckpo replies on May 2, 2019:
Yep. No supervisor goes and reinvestigates. That's just not done. It's not like Mueller's a first year intern. Highly experienced professional. I think OP is just wishful thinking a bit.
Just watched endgame last night. I was REALLY disappointed.
CodeBuster comments on May 2, 2019:
You certainly have more intestinal fortitude than me. I just can't deal with what passes for a movie nowadays. My interest started waning after that abomination of a Star Wars movie which name I can't remember, but had Yoda in a lightsabre fight with the red and black thing. He was fluttering ...
chuckpo replies on May 2, 2019:
I laughed out loud in the theater at that scene and said, 'no, that's ridiculous.' Said it in a silent theater.
The 'left' wants somebody to blame and punish for the dissonance of their own created identity.
jwhitten comments on May 2, 2019:
>> "The 'left' wants somebody to blame and punish for the dissonance of their own created identity." I don't completely think I understand this statement. I mean I get the words, but the only thing I can really interepret it as, is that they require someone / some group to "other"-- to be the ...
chuckpo replies on May 2, 2019:
@jwhitten, well, you sure covered all the bases in that response, Haha. I dont think precision is too much effort. I think imprecision is too little effort. And, I'll bet you a lot of ppl with left ideology just shut down feeling attacked when they see vilifying language--even we are trying to target a particular group within the left. Btw, their is crossover--concentric circles.
The 'left' wants somebody to blame and punish for the dissonance of their own created identity.
jwhitten comments on May 2, 2019:
>> "The 'left' wants somebody to blame and punish for the dissonance of their own created identity." I don't completely think I understand this statement. I mean I get the words, but the only thing I can really interepret it as, is that they require someone / some group to "other"-- to be the ...
chuckpo replies on May 2, 2019:
@jwhitten, great insights.
The 'left' wants somebody to blame and punish for the dissonance of their own created identity.
jwhitten comments on May 2, 2019:
>> "The 'left' wants somebody to blame and punish for the dissonance of their own created identity." I don't completely think I understand this statement. I mean I get the words, but the only thing I can really interepret it as, is that they require someone / some group to "other"-- to be the ...
chuckpo replies on May 2, 2019:
@jwhitten **Left, Right, Up, Down-- what does it matter what it's called. It's simply a commonly-used and understood definition. ** I think it's important, because terms become pejoratives. And, inaccuracy just impedes conversation because you're group where groups aren't actually a thing. Like if I say, 'extreme-leftist', that necessarily includes @DrN1 since his views tend to be far left on a political spectrum. But, that's not exactly what we're railing over. That stuff has existed for a really long time. What we're railing over is this group of ill-considered, combative choads who aggressively strike out from emotion without reason. Right? I have no reason to insult DrN1 because we have sane conversations, but every time I go on a tirade on the site using an imprecise term, I insult him too. That's not a good thing for reasonable people to do. I think we need another term for that group who currently is on the far left, but is obnoxious AF. That's a different group. I actually want to enlist members from anywhere on the political spectrum to fight the obnoxious people. Let reason and civility stand as a group. I defend DrN1's (sorry for using you as my example) right to his sane beliefs, because political position isn't my target. The judgement, condemnation, and contempt is my target, and I'll bring my own judgment, condemnation, and contempt to bear on it because reason and civility have failed.
66%+ Female Grads DO NOT Want To Return To Workforce After "Home Duties" - YouTube
chuckpo comments on May 2, 2019:
1) Missing the obvious, most men don't want to go back to work either. Work often sucks, with little reward beyond the paycheck. Women aren't lazy or crazy. They're smart. We're just terrified to admit to ourselves that men don't want to work either. We should have THAT conversation, but you almost ...
chuckpo replies on May 2, 2019:
@acthenpens, haha, absolutely.
So, I have 4 kids in jr.
chuckpo comments on May 2, 2019:
I doubt anyone can explain how it's not indoctrination, because it is indoctrination. And, the fact this is spun as 'wellness'? They're making wellness=right thinking. That's NOT wellness. If this is an instrument produced by the mental healthcare profession--which wouldn't surprise me--it's more ...
chuckpo replies on May 2, 2019:
@jwhitten oh yeah, for all of the same reasons we've been talking about. Mental healthcare is under the umbrella of leftist elitists.
So, I have 4 kids in jr.
chuckpo comments on May 2, 2019:
I doubt anyone can explain how it's not indoctrination, because it is indoctrination. And, the fact this is spun as 'wellness'? They're making wellness=right thinking. That's NOT wellness. If this is an instrument produced by the mental healthcare profession--which wouldn't surprise me--it's more ...
chuckpo replies on May 2, 2019:
@jwhitten, a reason for what? Which comment were you responding to?
The 'left' wants somebody to blame and punish for the dissonance of their own created identity.
jwhitten comments on May 2, 2019:
>> "The 'left' wants somebody to blame and punish for the dissonance of their own created identity." I don't completely think I understand this statement. I mean I get the words, but the only thing I can really interepret it as, is that they require someone / some group to "other"-- to be the ...
chuckpo replies on May 2, 2019:
@jwhitten, one thing we've all predicted was all of these intersectional groups turning on each other. And, that makes a lot of sense in the theory. And, it's not their theory--something they might use to look at themselves. Do you think even one on the extreme left (I'm sick of using this term, because it's not accurate--it's not only about a political continuum) would give even a second of consideration to this theory? They'd reject it faster than @DrN1 rejected 12 Rules for Life, haha...
The 'left' wants somebody to blame and punish for the dissonance of their own created identity.
jwhitten comments on May 2, 2019:
>> "The 'left' wants somebody to blame and punish for the dissonance of their own created identity." I don't completely think I understand this statement. I mean I get the words, but the only thing I can really interepret it as, is that they require someone / some group to "other"-- to be the ...
chuckpo replies on May 2, 2019:
Yes! With this addition. I don't think the right is the necessary target, because it's not about any topic in the world we've discussed--cars, houses, politics, relationships, etc. It's how the left is dealing with their own abandonment of principle. So, they're not scapegoating the right, which would suggest some substantive disagreement worthy of noticing. Instead the right--the other--is simply an easy distraction from their own internal conflict. Did I write that well enough that you get me? Subtle difference. The left is full of shits, and they know they're being shits, and rather than introspect and endeavor to change, they distract themselves from their discomfort by loathing the non-left. Your examples of the behavior of marginalized groups would fall in the same category to the degree they have no legitimate grievance. So, part of a grievance group might be legitimate social commentary and part might be a distraction from what they've come to loathe about themselves. This is sort of making some sense to me as it converges into theory...
I picked up 12 rules book in the shop today, looked at the contents page, its basically all there, I...
BEARSHRUGGED comments on May 2, 2019:
Did you read the book?
chuckpo replies on May 2, 2019:
@DrN1, that's an interesting reaction. If you didn't read it, where is the strong feeling coming from? Others have told you it's really sort of how to take responsibility for your life kind of book, so it's not itself intentionally political. Yet, you clearly have some visceral reaction to the book. Shouldn't you figure out what it's about before you try to devalue it in the public sphere?
The 'left' wants somebody to blame and punish for the dissonance of their own created identity.
Halligan comments on May 2, 2019:
I don't think it is possible to engage in reasonable conversation when one side resists at all costs. We're beyond that point now, unfortunately. I think people of the right are starting to see that and are slowly waking up. I think the right needs to try and engage the centrists or moderate left ...
chuckpo replies on May 2, 2019:
really good post.
So, I have 4 kids in jr.
chuckpo comments on May 2, 2019:
I doubt anyone can explain how it's not indoctrination, because it is indoctrination. And, the fact this is spun as 'wellness'? They're making wellness=right thinking. That's NOT wellness. If this is an instrument produced by the mental healthcare profession--which wouldn't surprise me--it's more ...
chuckpo replies on May 2, 2019:
@DrN1, hahahahaha, nice!
So, I have 4 kids in jr.
chuckpo comments on May 2, 2019:
I doubt anyone can explain how it's not indoctrination, because it is indoctrination. And, the fact this is spun as 'wellness'? They're making wellness=right thinking. That's NOT wellness. If this is an instrument produced by the mental healthcare profession--which wouldn't surprise me--it's more ...
chuckpo replies on May 2, 2019:
@DrN1, actually the more I think about this the more it makes sense that mental healthcare lacks self-awareness.
So, I have 4 kids in jr.
chuckpo comments on May 2, 2019:
I doubt anyone can explain how it's not indoctrination, because it is indoctrination. And, the fact this is spun as 'wellness'? They're making wellness=right thinking. That's NOT wellness. If this is an instrument produced by the mental healthcare profession--which wouldn't surprise me--it's more ...
chuckpo replies on May 2, 2019:
@DrN1, agree--mostly. And, it does seem likely there is a way to do these things without indoctrinating based on one ideology, and that's to open up the discussion. We're just not doing that, and this survey isn't doing that. It's 'TEACHING' children 'right thinking', and it's coming from authority--there's a lot wrong with this.
I picked up 12 rules book in the shop today, looked at the contents page, its basically all there, I...
chuckpo comments on May 2, 2019:
Actually, the points in the book are important, but nothing revolutionary. What's revolutionary is we've produced chaos where those values used to exist, and there are a lot of people looking for THAT answer. Doesn't that strike you as odd? Why do you think the message gained such traction? Young ...
chuckpo replies on May 2, 2019:
@Boardwine, absolutely. The only instructions we have is what did or didn't work with us as children, and that would be fine if every person was the same. My kid's a different kid than I was as a kid. Different personality, different values, different temperament, different instincts. It is NOT all about genes. BTW, he's different from my wife too--and my daughter. He's a ton like his uncle (wife's brother), but he's only been around his uncle a handful of times. This stuff is trippie.
AOC's credit score
chuckpo comments on May 2, 2019:
Is this true? My daughter is 20 and my son 19, and both of their credit scores are over 700. 430 is NOT good.
chuckpo replies on May 2, 2019:
BTW, the lowest credit score you can have is 300. It's a scaled score, obviously. I think the top end is 850.
Just watched endgame last night. I was REALLY disappointed.
jwhitten comments on May 2, 2019:
Don't feel bad, so was everybody else. You're not going to like the next one either. Just sayin.
chuckpo replies on May 2, 2019:
@jwhitten, yeah, I'm with you on the pc points. I get REALLY turned off by these Hollywood knobs spouting off like they have any qualifications to do. Why do people with money think that makes them knowledgeable about anything else? Hollywood got rich by being good looking, reasonably fit, and not having social anxiety. That's not the recipe for intellectual prowess. I used to like people like Robert DeNiro. Now, I won't watch any of this movies. I DON'T WANT TO KNOW YOUR POLITICS. Just make stories and shut up and let me live in the fantasy you're not a choad...
I picked up 12 rules book in the shop today, looked at the contents page, its basically all there, I...
chuckpo comments on May 2, 2019:
Actually, the points in the book are important, but nothing revolutionary. What's revolutionary is we've produced chaos where those values used to exist, and there are a lot of people looking for THAT answer. Doesn't that strike you as odd? Why do you think the message gained such traction? Young ...
chuckpo replies on May 2, 2019:
@Boardwine, because I went to college I was a believer in nature over nurture. Life said, 'WRONG!' Hahaha. Girls have a lot going for them--and early. Boys are a little rougher socially. Since I had my daughter first, I thought my son was retarded. I literally went and talked to the school about him entering Kindergarten. Turns out the kid is really smart. He just wasn't ready for THIS world like my daughter was. He's a work in progress. We're failing our boys. I honestly don't know how to help, but stay out of the way as much as possible. He's not that kid who wanted to be just like Dad. He's more like the kid that kills Dad and assumes the throne. Haha, I have to keep an eye on him to make sure he's not coming for me.
Just watched endgame last night. I was REALLY disappointed.
jwhitten comments on May 2, 2019:
Don't feel bad, so was everybody else. You're not going to like the next one either. Just sayin.
chuckpo replies on May 2, 2019:
@jwhitten It was hard to watch the old actors playing these roles. Hard to imagine superheros​ looking like Willie Nelson. Mostly Downey Jr, Renner, Cheadle, and Ruffalo. Downey Jr and Cheadle are 54, Renner 48, and Mark Ruffalo is 51. Oh yeah, Paul Rudd didn't look very good either. He's 50. It gets hard to pull off looking like you're 25-35. Chris Pratt's almost 40, but looked like he'd put on weight again.
Just watched endgame last night. I was REALLY disappointed.
jwhitten comments on May 2, 2019:
Don't feel bad, so was everybody else. You're not going to like the next one either. Just sayin.
chuckpo replies on May 2, 2019:
Wait, there's an Avengers after Endgame? Do you mean when they switch the cast and tell a different story?
I picked up 12 rules book in the shop today, looked at the contents page, its basically all there, I...
chuckpo comments on May 2, 2019:
Actually, the points in the book are important, but nothing revolutionary. What's revolutionary is we've produced chaos where those values used to exist, and there are a lot of people looking for THAT answer. Doesn't that strike you as odd? Why do you think the message gained such traction? Young ...
chuckpo replies on May 2, 2019:
@Boardwine, I have a 20 year old female and a 19 year old male. The boy. Nobody alive needs JP's message more than my son. Yet, I can't get him to read it or listen to it. He's just not there. Still too much kid in him. He HATES my urging for him to take on responsibility. He works 50 hours per week, pays his bills, taxes, etc. So, in that way he's doing brilliantly, and this job--taking responsibility--has been so important for him as a person. But, he's so resistant to taking on responsibility. BTW, all of those books on parenting? Junk. That stuff comes from my field, and it's audaciously incomplete.
Here's "Soph", a great 14-yo content-creator on YouTube recommended by Styxhexenhammer666.
chuckpo comments on May 2, 2019:
The verbal display is really impressive--seemingly pretty far beyond a 14 year old--even a 14 year old genius. Who wrote the script? I didn't listen to all of it (about the first 4 minutes or so), but I only noticed one time where she butchered a word, canaanite.
chuckpo replies on May 2, 2019:
@jwhitten, fair point. The message can be true even when the messenger isn't quite. Judge the words, not the deliverer of the words--which goes against modern discourse that seems to believe if you discredit the speaker, the truth in the words are discredited. HORRIFICALLY Ignorant, if not transparently manipulative.
So just what is a goal?
DrN1 comments on May 2, 2019:
Score
chuckpo replies on May 2, 2019:
score = competition? I could definitely get behind that conversation. I think it's a problem (will be pissing off the republicans again, haha, oops). But, I don't even know if that's what you meant.
Lack of assimilation continues in the UK: [facebook.com]
Chicago comments on May 2, 2019:
These are the most ignorant people on the planet.
chuckpo replies on May 2, 2019:
Where have you been, @Chicago? I miss reading your comments.
Left-wing Activists Are Forcing Mastercard to Hold Shareholder Vote to Cut Off Right-Wing Funding...
Boardwine comments on May 2, 2019:
It's all out war. For the very soul of Western culture. The still sane among us must realize this and fight back with all means available before it's too late. I know that sounds extreme and possibly a bit paranoid but the left is nothing if not utterly relentless.
chuckpo replies on May 2, 2019:
@jwhitten, it's written on my badge, though I shorten it to Chuck.
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Garsco comments on May 2, 2019:
It’s almost amazing that so many haven’t paid enough attention to the whole Russia, Russia, Russia hysteria to understand that it was all about nothing from the beginning.
chuckpo replies on May 2, 2019:
They wanted/needed the Russia stuff to be true too much to consider even a remote possibility it wasn't. They were and are willing to delude themselves in the hope it was true ENOUGH to justify their desire and attempt to destroy a group of people they loathe. That is the extreme side of the modern left.
Every day another Democrat idiot throws their hat into the ring.
chuckpo comments on May 1, 2019:
My patience is gone for the left's rather unprecedented level of bias. It's really egregious. I can have civil conversations IF they're capable of a modicum of objectivity. But, my experience with them is otherwise.
chuckpo replies on May 2, 2019:
@PalmThis, one thing that hurts us is the representatives the right elects are cowards. They are there to be elites. They're not there to get dirty. That's why we elected Trump--something the left completely doesn't understand. We elected Trump to do exactly what he's doing. Sort of our big FU to the activist left. If the freaking cowards would stand with Trump, he could do even more. We have to elect more people who aren't cowards, but it's generations deep, so there's a coward running against a coward, and that's our choice--other than the democrat. We have to encourage brave candidates who actually want to work for us, and aren't going to Washington for a paycheck and to rub elbows with the betters. It's a nasty little problem, and I don't see a quick fix to it. I'd love to get Trump's take on it...
This is getting ridiculous. [google.com]
chuckpo comments on Apr 30, 2019:
I hate the way this is, but I'd have to recommend men disengage from women. Too much at stake. You're playing a losing hand, and you don't necessarily know where it's going to come from. The interesting thing is that's what women have to feel walking by men at night. How do they know who's a ...
chuckpo replies on May 2, 2019:
Another thought to add. Why does it seem like it's always the good people who lose? Women who are actually assaulted aren't believed, while the one's faking it are. Rapists walk or have light prison sentences, while men who are falsely accused lose their careers and often their families...Kind of sucks.
Left-wing Activists Are Forcing Mastercard to Hold Shareholder Vote to Cut Off Right-Wing Funding...
Boardwine comments on May 2, 2019:
It's all out war. For the very soul of Western culture. The still sane among us must realize this and fight back with all means available before it's too late. I know that sounds extreme and possibly a bit paranoid but the left is nothing if not utterly relentless.
chuckpo replies on May 2, 2019:
Seems inevitable. Funny how violence exists wherever militant socialism exists.
Every day another Democrat idiot throws their hat into the ring.
chuckpo comments on May 1, 2019:
My patience is gone for the left's rather unprecedented level of bias. It's really egregious. I can have civil conversations IF they're capable of a modicum of objectivity. But, my experience with them is otherwise.
chuckpo replies on May 1, 2019:
@PalmThis, first, what does it mean to take a stand? What kind of stand are you talking about. I've been talking on IDW about me personally taking a stand in opposition to my own tendency toward relativism. I didn't raise that issue on this thread. Is that what you're referring to? Or, are you asking about when we make a physical stand against the hopeless ideologues who are dividing our country with hierarchical social borders based on hate--a literal fight for our country? In the second case, I think that speaks for itself. It's a legitimate question. In the first case, I think we engage in the exchange of ideas behind our keyboards and in the public space, wherever it makes sense to do so. We have to know there could be a cost, and in some cases a steep one. If we walk onto University campuses to engage, we could be met with combustibility that would be hard to predict. If we organize marches, same thing. First case may organically bleed into the second case. Is it worth it? Maybe. We seem to be fighting for our identity, and that fight may be worth fighting. I don't want to be whatever it is the left is trying to create. It's ugly and chaotic--and naive, in my opinion. Anyway, if you provide more info, I might better provide my answers to the questions, for whatever that's worth. If they were rhetorical,...nevermind.
Every day another Democrat idiot throws their hat into the ring.
chuckpo comments on May 1, 2019:
My patience is gone for the left's rather unprecedented level of bias. It's really egregious. I can have civil conversations IF they're capable of a modicum of objectivity. But, my experience with them is otherwise.
chuckpo replies on May 1, 2019:
@MADcHATTER, I have had several good conversations with DrN1 and one with Farkas, and a couple of others who believe what they believe, but they aren't threatened to have the conversation. I've had my fill of the ones who are hopelessly, blindly partisan and dig at ideas with cheap talking points and try to mask their criticisms of you and act like they're not criticizing you. I get pretty aggressive with them, and then they pull the, 'see? The real you is coming out now, like if they goad me into annoyance that somehow invalidates the points. It's just dumb and boring and worse--it's pointless.
Every day another Democrat idiot throws their hat into the ring.
chuckpo comments on May 1, 2019:
My patience is gone for the left's rather unprecedented level of bias. It's really egregious. I can have civil conversations IF they're capable of a modicum of objectivity. But, my experience with them is otherwise.
chuckpo replies on May 1, 2019:
Actually, it's not all of them. I've had some great, informative conversations here with some reasonable folks on the left.
So tell us a little about yourselves. What are your hobbies and interests?
chuckpo comments on Apr 26, 2019:
I love doing most of what I do with my wife. We go to movies, love to try new restaurants and new foods (withing reason. not sophisticated enough to eat a bug), like to take some short drives and visit small towns in Texas. I love it when my young adult children still join us. I love to learn, and I...
chuckpo replies on Apr 30, 2019:
@jwhitten, yeah, strange notion. I was always an idiot 10 years ago. What does that say about me in this moment 10 years from now? Hahahaha... **The correct way to be and perfection** Either we're wholly incompetent--failures to an astonishing degree. OR, what we are--with all of our flaws--is perfect. My wife isn't perfect, but she's perfect for me. My marriage isn't perfect, yet it's perfect in its acceptance of two imperfect people, and it is enduring. Maybe we just have a screwed up understanding of what perfect is. I've thought a lot about this one, and the idea resonates. **Intelligence** I've spent a lot of time thinking about intelligence too--both what it is and what it isn't. I think there must be some intersection between intelligence and competence, where competence is probably the more important part of the idea. But, we have IQ, people don't like change, and how would mensa justify their superiority without it, hahaha? One area I depart a bit from Jordan Peterson is his dependence on IQ as a construct of worth, seemingly just because the psychometric properties are established--the math works. But, math is just math, and math is ignorant of real world observation. Human beings must provide the meaning. The branch of statistics fell in love with itself awhile back and lost sight of that fact. Now, the positivists are unbearable in their misunderstanding of the whole thing. They stretched that out to science as a whole and risk ruining the whole thing because they decided to worship it. Anyway, probably another conversation. **how do you know? By what standard?** I think what we're missing is just the opposite. How do we NOT know? I think 'I don't know' is the missing piece of our puzzle. I believe not knowing is actually the constant we're looking for--the answer to relativity. It's liberating in its humility and inclusion and universality. I'm thinking about this right now. Many people are looking for this universal that will reveal truth and unite people and modes of thinking. But, they're looking for a thing in the positive space--not a thing in the negative space. 'I don't know' seems to complete the equation that ties everything together. I'm working on it. To be clear, I believe in a single objective reality that is true whether or not man is around to observe it. I have been a conflicted relativist. I believe it's important, but it's never sat well with me. Something else I'm thinking about now, and I've raised the point a few times on IDW. Pure relativity vs. how and when we take stands. Pure relativity doesn't work. I can't there. There has to be that something else. It's part of what led me back to a transcendent. We don't make sense as animals. We only make sense if there's a next. **socialism vs. capitalism** I ...
So tell us a little about yourselves. What are your hobbies and interests?
chuckpo comments on Apr 26, 2019:
I love doing most of what I do with my wife. We go to movies, love to try new restaurants and new foods (withing reason. not sophisticated enough to eat a bug), like to take some short drives and visit small towns in Texas. I love it when my young adult children still join us. I love to learn, and I...
chuckpo replies on Apr 30, 2019:
@jwhitten, hahaha. Too much to respond fairly on my phone. I'll come back to this.
So tell us a little about yourselves. What are your hobbies and interests?
chuckpo comments on Apr 26, 2019:
I love doing most of what I do with my wife. We go to movies, love to try new restaurants and new foods (withing reason. not sophisticated enough to eat a bug), like to take some short drives and visit small towns in Texas. I love it when my young adult children still join us. I love to learn, and I...
chuckpo replies on Apr 30, 2019:
@jwhitten, good questions. I lived in the HEB area like a million years ago between Dallas and Ft Worth. I was around 20--maybe younger. So, 35 years ago. I was born on the Texas coast. Wow, I dont know. I guess if it's not existential, is there a right way to be, and could we all actually get to that place? What would it look like? You?
Ruined People Ruined Culture - Roger Scruton & Post Black Pill Living - YouTube
DrN1 comments on Apr 30, 2019:
https://www.thegaurdian.com/commentisfree/2019/apr/26/roger-scruton-not-victim-leftwing-witch-hunt?CMP=share
chuckpo replies on Apr 30, 2019:
Link isn't working for me.
How long before the Legacy and Narratvie Press conclude that the Synagogue shooter is an avid Trump ...
chuckpo comments on Apr 29, 2019:
I don't think it's hard to demarcate the parameters of the story. Look at the comments on this thread. Stupid inferences based on language that triggers THEM, because they want to be triggered! Not that it has any real association to the fake conspiracy they concocted just to hold onto ...
chuckpo replies on Apr 30, 2019:
@DrN1, I don't understand why it has to go 'ahistorical' with Europeans. Yet, you say we are Europeans. I agree with you completely that we are European. I don't agree with the ahistorical pejorative, and I'll challenge that judgment. I don't think this underlying question is even about history, but a blend of history and new thinking. Sounds like progress. I also agree with you about our interconnectedness AND the interconnectedness of all people, animals, earth, universe. Kumbaya. I believe that. I think where this thing might go sideways is this belief nationalism is somehow inherently evil. I don't see why that has to be the case at all. Why can't we be interconnected through friendship and trade? Look, stuff has changed. The world used to be full of conquest, violently expansionistic. I don't see a immorality in either globalism or nationalism theories. But, I believe one of them is right for THIS time. We're not mature enough for Globalism yet. Hell, we can barely stave off tyranny in our own countries. Why in the world would we take all of our individual inadequacies and multiply that times every country and throw it into a single global Government? I'm sorry, I just don't see that ending well at all for the people of the world. We have state power to offset federal power--even city power. The whole idea is NOT to have all of the power in one place. The system works logically and reasonably going from individual, family (home), town/city, state, country, world. I see what the left is trying to do ideally (and assuming good intentions which may not always be the case anymore). But, what if it's the globalists that are unaware of history? More likely, we're just using different lenses through which to view history. I'd have to see your argument for this historical perspective you're suggesting, but I actually think it's shortsighted to dismiss Americans on this ground. We're no less embedded in history than you are--an artifact of our existence, and we're no less concerned with learning from the past. I just don't know where that comes from, though I think it has a bit of condescension in it, like we're somehow more children than Europeans--like our existence started on this continent. I think if you follow that line of reasoning out, you'll rethink it. Anyway, I don't know anybody here that denies where we came from or the connection between us and the rest of the western world. My lineage obviously goes back to Europe as well, and I'm tied to the same two first-humans as you are, if the theory is right. Your post reminds me that we may be well served to push more power back to the states. Interestingly, Trump has said that very thing and taken some steps in an attempt to do that. DECENTRALIZE power. Give people more choices of how they ...
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chuckpo comments on Apr 29, 2019:
The problem is the two areas of thought are not mutually exclusive, because they're being blended whether the books like it or not. I agree with most of what you say about JP not better communicating what he means, and I'm actually glad someone called him out to define his terms. It's fair. I really...
chuckpo replies on Apr 29, 2019:
@Farkas good responses. I wasn't trying to set up a competition. I prefer exchanging ideas. I approach topics from a problem-solving lens, and that's where that came from. What would need to exist for me to assume it's true? I'm still missing something, and that's that ppl--doesnt have to be well-known ppl or philosophers--can move in a direction along with some social current. So, can regular ppl espouse marxist ideas and postmodern ideas simultaneously? In that case, JPs assertion could be correct, I think. And, he'd be hard pressed to name names. I think hes talking specifically about academia, and you can argue there is an intersection of those two thoughts in that context. But, JP got caught in imprecision. Trump's an interesting contrast in views. Per Israel, there is disagreement about where and how the violence is started. I tend to fall on the other side, in that the region is pretty open about Israel's annihilation, but Israel doesn't seem to return that vitriol. I ask myself why. They're this tiny spot on a map somewhere, why should they be exterminated? That's going to be a tough one for me to justify.
How long before the Legacy and Narratvie Press conclude that the Synagogue shooter is an avid Trump ...
chuckpo comments on Apr 29, 2019:
I don't think it's hard to demarcate the parameters of the story. Look at the comments on this thread. Stupid inferences based on language that triggers THEM, because they want to be triggered! Not that it has any real association to the fake conspiracy they concocted just to hold onto ...
chuckpo replies on Apr 29, 2019:
@DrN1, I dont know much outside of my country, but I tend to be on the sovereign side of the debate. I cant see why y'all would want to pucker for the EU. I dont know what's wrong with keeping your autonomy. Per the bigotry stuff, ppl over here spin that. It's just a lie. Trumps nationalism isn't racist at all. We're an extremely diverse country, and all of that diversity IS our national. The politics where you are confuses me.
How long before the Legacy and Narratvie Press conclude that the Synagogue shooter is an avid Trump ...
chuckpo comments on Apr 29, 2019:
I don't think it's hard to demarcate the parameters of the story. Look at the comments on this thread. Stupid inferences based on language that triggers THEM, because they want to be triggered! Not that it has any real association to the fake conspiracy they concocted just to hold onto ...
chuckpo replies on Apr 29, 2019:
@DrN1, I cant argue. I dont know. But, would the other side agree with you?
How long before the Legacy and Narratvie Press conclude that the Synagogue shooter is an avid Trump ...
WilyRickWiles comments on Apr 29, 2019:
Seems unlikely. His manifesto was pretty clear that while aligned with Trump on some matters, he thought Trump was compromised by Jews. It would be rather easy, however, to support a narrative focused on the "cultural Marxism" tropes that inspired him and many other right-wing terrorists, and have ...
chuckpo replies on Apr 29, 2019:
@WilyRickWiles, common occurrence?
How long before the Legacy and Narratvie Press conclude that the Synagogue shooter is an avid Trump ...
WilyRickWiles comments on Apr 29, 2019:
Seems unlikely. His manifesto was pretty clear that while aligned with Trump on some matters, he thought Trump was compromised by Jews. It would be rather easy, however, to support a narrative focused on the "cultural Marxism" tropes that inspired him and many other right-wing terrorists, and have ...
chuckpo replies on Apr 29, 2019:
@WilyRickWiles now at least you spent time thinking of a clever way to tell me to go f myself. Did you giggle out loud?
How long before the Legacy and Narratvie Press conclude that the Synagogue shooter is an avid Trump ...
WilyRickWiles comments on Apr 29, 2019:
Seems unlikely. His manifesto was pretty clear that while aligned with Trump on some matters, he thought Trump was compromised by Jews. It would be rather easy, however, to support a narrative focused on the "cultural Marxism" tropes that inspired him and many other right-wing terrorists, and have ...
chuckpo replies on Apr 29, 2019:
@WilyRickWiles you done? I'm kind of not wanting to leave you alone in inane. We could just stop.
How long before the Legacy and Narratvie Press conclude that the Synagogue shooter is an avid Trump ...
WilyRickWiles comments on Apr 29, 2019:
Seems unlikely. His manifesto was pretty clear that while aligned with Trump on some matters, he thought Trump was compromised by Jews. It would be rather easy, however, to support a narrative focused on the "cultural Marxism" tropes that inspired him and many other right-wing terrorists, and have ...
chuckpo replies on Apr 29, 2019:
@WilyRickWiles, I'm surprised you can form sentences.
"We Deserve Answers": Kim Foxx Subpoenaed Over Her Handling of the Jussie Smollett Case
chuckpo comments on Apr 29, 2019:
Yeesh, it's so hard to tell anymore. Is it open corruption or somebody trying to be perfectly politically correct and messing it up? This IS what pc does. It muddies the waters. But, then this could just be flat out rich elitist protectionism doled out by the former administration. Who knows?
chuckpo replies on Apr 29, 2019:
@Garsco reasonable points.
How long before the Legacy and Narratvie Press conclude that the Synagogue shooter is an avid Trump ...
WilyRickWiles comments on Apr 29, 2019:
Seems unlikely. His manifesto was pretty clear that while aligned with Trump on some matters, he thought Trump was compromised by Jews. It would be rather easy, however, to support a narrative focused on the "cultural Marxism" tropes that inspired him and many other right-wing terrorists, and have ...
chuckpo replies on Apr 29, 2019:
@WilyRickWiles, everyone's been naming what you're ignorant of for weeks. You just cant hear it. Because ignorance.
How long before the Legacy and Narratvie Press conclude that the Synagogue shooter is an avid Trump ...
WilyRickWiles comments on Apr 29, 2019:
Seems unlikely. His manifesto was pretty clear that while aligned with Trump on some matters, he thought Trump was compromised by Jews. It would be rather easy, however, to support a narrative focused on the "cultural Marxism" tropes that inspired him and many other right-wing terrorists, and have ...
chuckpo replies on Apr 29, 2019:
@WilyRickWiles, actually you're silly and dangerous. Dangerous because you sit in ignorance by choice because it makes you feel better, and you strike out from your myopic distortion in the hope you'll fill this deficit you know is there but dont know what to do with.
How long before the Legacy and Narratvie Press conclude that the Synagogue shooter is an avid Trump ...
WilyRickWiles comments on Apr 29, 2019:
Seems unlikely. His manifesto was pretty clear that while aligned with Trump on some matters, he thought Trump was compromised by Jews. It would be rather easy, however, to support a narrative focused on the "cultural Marxism" tropes that inspired him and many other right-wing terrorists, and have ...
chuckpo replies on Apr 29, 2019:
@WilyRickWiles, you're silly.
How long before the Legacy and Narratvie Press conclude that the Synagogue shooter is an avid Trump ...
WilyRickWiles comments on Apr 29, 2019:
Seems unlikely. His manifesto was pretty clear that while aligned with Trump on some matters, he thought Trump was compromised by Jews. It would be rather easy, however, to support a narrative focused on the "cultural Marxism" tropes that inspired him and many other right-wing terrorists, and have ...
chuckpo replies on Apr 29, 2019:
@WilyRickWiles, wow, no. Really. You're reading from a book, right? This material is just too good for you to be coming up with off the cuff.
How long before the Legacy and Narratvie Press conclude that the Synagogue shooter is an avid Trump ...
DrN1 comments on Apr 29, 2019:
Guess they'll have to ask him?
chuckpo replies on Apr 29, 2019:
@EdNason, and then they'll miss.
How long before the Legacy and Narratvie Press conclude that the Synagogue shooter is an avid Trump ...
WilyRickWiles comments on Apr 29, 2019:
Seems unlikely. His manifesto was pretty clear that while aligned with Trump on some matters, he thought Trump was compromised by Jews. It would be rather easy, however, to support a narrative focused on the "cultural Marxism" tropes that inspired him and many other right-wing terrorists, and have ...
chuckpo replies on Apr 29, 2019:
@WilyRickWiles, good one. The nuh-uh it's you defense. Again with the originality. Do you guys practice this seat noise from a script?
How long before the Legacy and Narratvie Press conclude that the Synagogue shooter is an avid Trump ...
WilyRickWiles comments on Apr 29, 2019:
Seems unlikely. His manifesto was pretty clear that while aligned with Trump on some matters, he thought Trump was compromised by Jews. It would be rather easy, however, to support a narrative focused on the "cultural Marxism" tropes that inspired him and many other right-wing terrorists, and have ...
chuckpo replies on Apr 29, 2019:
@WilyRickWiles, maybe we could dispense with the attributing the other side to mass murderers and maniacs. Will you have anything left to talk about?
How long before the Legacy and Narratvie Press conclude that the Synagogue shooter is an avid Trump ...
WilyRickWiles comments on Apr 29, 2019:
Seems unlikely. His manifesto was pretty clear that while aligned with Trump on some matters, he thought Trump was compromised by Jews. It would be rather easy, however, to support a narrative focused on the "cultural Marxism" tropes that inspired him and many other right-wing terrorists, and have ...
chuckpo replies on Apr 29, 2019:
@WilyRickWiles, ugh, I get it, one-dimensional insults from your party pamphlet. Hey, that one always catches everyone by surprise. Here's the problem, do your own thinking IN ADDITION to some foundational research and the one-line talking points you saw on CNN. You've mischaracterized Candace. Why? Because you spout one-line talking points you saw on CNN. You mischaracterize Trump. Why? Because you spout one-line talking points you saw on CNN. That's NOT what the IDW is about. That's what leftist social media platforms are about. Perhaps, you're just fine with Mao who was fine with exterminating millions of people. Is that the thing, Wily? You have that socialist mass murder thing going? You want to kill women and children for power and control?
How long before the Legacy and Narratvie Press conclude that the Synagogue shooter is an avid Trump ...
WilyRickWiles comments on Apr 29, 2019:
Seems unlikely. His manifesto was pretty clear that while aligned with Trump on some matters, he thought Trump was compromised by Jews. It would be rather easy, however, to support a narrative focused on the "cultural Marxism" tropes that inspired him and many other right-wing terrorists, and have ...
chuckpo replies on Apr 29, 2019:
@WilyRickWiles, I'm not bound by prior thinking. I can actually move around it, project, speculate, make inferences based on new information,...you?
How long before the Legacy and Narratvie Press conclude that the Synagogue shooter is an avid Trump ...
WilyRickWiles comments on Apr 29, 2019:
Seems unlikely. His manifesto was pretty clear that while aligned with Trump on some matters, he thought Trump was compromised by Jews. It would be rather easy, however, to support a narrative focused on the "cultural Marxism" tropes that inspired him and many other right-wing terrorists, and have ...
chuckpo replies on Apr 29, 2019:
@WilyRickWiles **The globalist trope. When he says things to the effect of "the globalists are sending an invasion of migrants to destroy our country" or "the press are the Enemy of the People," echoing the Nazi term "lügenpresse" and German work "Volk," he's pushing the "cultural Marxism" conspiracy theory.** First, the press is the enemy of the people--goes way beyond what Trump says. Trump's being nice. The mainstream media is probably the most corrosive, unchecked compromised institution in existence in the USA today. Government at least has a system that's supposed to provide checks and balances. Who's the check on the media? Yup, nobody. They're out of control. If there were out of control to the right instead of out of control to the left, you'd be screaming your lungs out about it. They're on your side, so you're like, 'what?' You're pushing a conspiracy theory that Trump and/or conservatives are pushing a conspiracy theory. See how that works? Silly. Forget it. Simple conversation about nationalism vs. globalism. The left paints nationalism in all of these 'conspiratorial?' terms, but it's untrue. Nothing USA nationalism is racist. We're not like Sweden that is small and homogeneous. We're very diverse, and we have 320 million people. THAT'S our nation! So, nationalism isn't exclusionary to any group except other nations. You are a variation of nationalist if you live in a house or apartment with walls and locks. You separate yourself from others. Yet, you actually separate yourself based probably on color, religion, sexual preference, etc., etc., etc., If not those, then others. You simply can't capture all diversity in your household. You're separatist. But, I'll bet you'd let pretty much anyone come into your home, right (except maybe conservative nationalists, haha). Nationalism is no different. Separate, but open. Just like your grocery store down the block and the gas station on the corner or the library in town. We have walls and locks, but if you're a decent person there is no problem letting you in. Walls and locks are for bad people. Pretending different is simply nonsense.
How long before the Legacy and Narratvie Press conclude that the Synagogue shooter is an avid Trump ...
WilyRickWiles comments on Apr 29, 2019:
Seems unlikely. His manifesto was pretty clear that while aligned with Trump on some matters, he thought Trump was compromised by Jews. It would be rather easy, however, to support a narrative focused on the "cultural Marxism" tropes that inspired him and many other right-wing terrorists, and have ...
chuckpo replies on Apr 29, 2019:
@WilyRickWiles, what SPECIFICALLY are you complaining about in that video? What did he say that drives you to conclude conspiracy? What exactly did he say that was bad?
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chuckpo comments on Apr 29, 2019:
The problem is the two areas of thought are not mutually exclusive, because they're being blended whether the books like it or not. I agree with most of what you say about JP not better communicating what he means, and I'm actually glad someone called him out to define his terms. It's fair. I really...
chuckpo replies on Apr 29, 2019:
But wait, @Farkas, what about the other way? Maybe Marxists aren't allying with postmodernists, but are postmodernists aligning with Marxism? That also seems a fair question to me, and one that if true would lend some support for Peterson's assertion. Modern people don't need the permission of historical people to twist, turn, wrangle, stretch, misrepresent, cherry-pick, etc. They just say, 'here's what we're doing, and this agrees with that historical idea.' Is that what's going on here? Could be. I'd also say if modern people didn't influence the way a historical theory is experienced, a 'failed' theory would have no hope of being some part of the puzzle in the ultimate solution. You take the good with the bad. I don't know that classical Marxism must own postermodern marxists, but it would seem incumbent upon the classical Marxists to delineate the differences and expunge the postmodernists from pure Marxism. Stuff always gets complicated. My response to Zizek would be just that, 1) I'm not responsible to name names, and what do we gain from the naming?, and 2) Just because you don't claim the postermodernists doesn't mean they don't claim you. Now, I get to sit back and watch you deal with that problem and see how it comes out--see if you can reconcile the position, and how you must create bridges or walls, which in any case seems to benefit me. A relevant analogy would be Trump and the far right. He's denounced the far right a number of times, but he's always saddled with that dilemma of not going far enough in the denouncement. The far right is simply grabbing onto parts of Trump's agenda they like (and there's not a ton there). The far right could also embrace the far left as they tread further into anti-Semitic criticism. In fact, my contention is the far left and the far right are the same group, divided only by which group they wish to promote--possibly a natural conclusion to intersectionality anyway. But, I guess we're all guilty of being too imprecise in our language. There's too much ambiguity, and it's really hard to have these conversations without having clear terms we can use to demarcate theories and theory blends. AND, most of the time we point out someone else's loose term with our own loose term, haha. It's messy. It's imprecise. We say a lot of words, point, and go, 'so there'...
Has the New York Times reversed itself on whether a border wall should be built?
DrN1 comments on Apr 29, 2019:
I was walking today by the river and was looking at a bridge that was recently built over to the other side. When it was being built I recall feeling a bit sad that a previously wild and unspoilt place was going to change. But looking at it today I can see it has an aesthetic that is pleasing, you ...
chuckpo replies on Apr 29, 2019:
@DrN1, yeah I tripped over the feeling part too. Walls aren't for feelings. Walls are for protection in one or both directions. They exist for lawbreakers--not law abiding citizens. Walls are only necessary because people try to cheat other people. Illegal immigrants by the millions CHEAT honest, law-abiding immigrants to jump line. Selfish, illegal actions to promote their own welfare above others. But, not only do illegal immigrants cheat legal immigrants. They cheat citizens. In the US, illegal immigrants gain access to resources literally unavailable to legal immigrants/all citizens. Seriously, what's your response to that? Because the feeling stuff just doesn't capture the reality of the situation. In A Perfect World: We wouldn't need guns, but nobody would care if anybody had guns anyway. We wouldn't need locks on our homes or our cars or our businesses We wouldn't feel funny about giving to the poor because we'd know there weren't bad actors mixed in gaming the system. We wouldn't be terrified that our sons and daughters could be taken and sold into sex slavery or raped and killed Women wouldn't EVER need to fear a man Men would NEVER need to fear a false accusation Politicians wouldn't get rich by selling themselves to special interest or by scheduling after career speaking engagements where they make 100s of 1000s of dollars per speech. Children would NEVER be abused or marginalized by their families. Divorce would never happen. Physical violence wouldn't exist. Insurance would be reduced by 2/3 or more. I could go on and on, but you get me? Rules, laws, and walls are created for people who won't let us have our ideal world...
Self-Proclaimed Nationalists Interrupt Author, Chant 'This Land Is Our Land' at Politics and Prose ...
chuckpo comments on Apr 29, 2019:
Who's giving these choads voice? You have the far left choads poking at the bear. They've been nearly dormant for some decades. And, the far left is creating the perfect white supremacist storm for the extreme right.
chuckpo replies on Apr 29, 2019:
@WilyRickWiles, I call it not even close to being the same thing. EVERYONE rejects the far right. That's not a question. Literally nobody defends them. Just ask them. There are some on this site, and they call ANYBODY to the left of them leftists. There's no question on this point. Now, you're a self-proclaimed socialist, with or without the new qualifier of 'democratic'. You Must admit that falls outside of what has ever been considered a centrist position. AND, in this thing that's happening on the left, the line has been completely blurred between the far left and anything that used to be considered centrist left. Your extreme left is running the left show. The extreme right is NOT running the right show. You get this difference, right? I don't fall in lockstep with Shapiro. I think he's an establishment Republican. He's 100% into what it means to be a Republican. And, he doesn't understand Trump or Trump supporters at all. The other guys aren't in that same lane. Rubin's a guy on the left--or used to be a guy on the left that no longer can identity with what he feels is damage the left is doing. I can identity with this. I was never a Democrat, but I was never a Republican either. I was camped on the line in the middle. I simply chose--like Rubin--to stand against what I see is gross and dangerous. I'm not advocating for Republicans (I advocate for Trump and Trump supporters, whom they far right probably think is better than the left, but only marginally.). I'm opposing the far left--including former centrists who've drifted to anger and hate, power and control. I've watched a ton of JP's stuff--maybe nearly all of it. Number one, his critics often misunderstand his message. It's not intentionally political. It's relational, it's existential. He didn't start with the compelled speech bit. His message was being refined much earlier. The compelled speech thing essentially impressed upon Peterson an urgency to speak up ON THAT TOPIC. In a way, the political event gave JP a platform he's used to speak about much more important topics. Feminism, for example, is NOT a way to relate to all people. No overarching schema pitting one group against another or attempt to raise one group over another gets to be called an equal rights group. It's simply untrue and typical politics. There is a path forward, and that path isn't political. HOWEVER, there will be political implications inevitably. What the left is doing is harming to human beings, relationships, even group identity. In that crossover, political conversation is necessary. It's part of the story. But, it's several layers down from the depth of the human condition. Personally, I think the cultural marxism tag is a dig--not a particularly effective one. I think it's an attempt to dig while ...
Self-Proclaimed Nationalists Interrupt Author, Chant 'This Land Is Our Land' at Politics and Prose ...
chuckpo comments on Apr 29, 2019:
Who's giving these choads voice? You have the far left choads poking at the bear. They've been nearly dormant for some decades. And, the far left is creating the perfect white supremacist storm for the extreme right.
chuckpo replies on Apr 29, 2019:
@WilyRickWiles, actually I mistyped far-right into far-left in the post you're responding to. I corrected it. I'm assuming you were suggesting--in typical partisan fashion--that centrist conservatives are pandering to the far-right? That's absurd and insulting, and of course, completely partisan. Wholly inaccurate, bombastic, hyperbolic, etc. IF that's the statement you were making, you're wrong. NOBODY--literally nobody--panders to the far right. Everyone right up to the point of the far-right, abjectly rejects the far-right. You get that, right?
Self-Proclaimed Nationalists Interrupt Author, Chant 'This Land Is Our Land' at Politics and Prose ...
chuckpo comments on Apr 29, 2019:
Who's giving these choads voice? You have the far left choads poking at the bear. They've been nearly dormant for some decades. And, the far left is creating the perfect white supremacist storm for the extreme right.
chuckpo replies on Apr 29, 2019:
@WilyRickWiles, who do you think is pandering to far-right choads?
Hey, Keep Out members, not many are joining the group.
CodeBuster comments on Apr 29, 2019:
In order to alleviate any problems from the easily triggered sort, a poster should have an option when posting whether it's intended for that specific group only or open to the general public. Some of the groups get rather controversial and there would be cases of posts being taken out of ...
chuckpo replies on Apr 29, 2019:
@CodeBuster, good points. I'm going to @admin in the hope he actually sees these posts. I think you have a good idea or two.
Self-Proclaimed Nationalists Interrupt Author, Chant 'This Land Is Our Land' at Politics and Prose ...
chuckpo comments on Apr 29, 2019:
Who's giving these choads voice? You have the far left choads poking at the bear. They've been nearly dormant for some decades. And, the far left is creating the perfect white supremacist storm for the extreme right.
chuckpo replies on Apr 29, 2019:
@WilyRickWiles, I guess we know what you're today today. Focus.
The (democrats) catalog of Kavanaugh Crimes.
chuckpo comments on Apr 29, 2019:
No single act stands to condemn Democrat corruption more than the way they eagerly and consciously butchered Brett Kavanaugh in a wholly unwarranted character assassination. I'm not quite ready to joke about this yet, I guess. This is the best example of a flat out heinous mob doing unspeakable ...
chuckpo replies on Apr 29, 2019:
@An_Ominous, I wasn't for Trump in the primary, and I wasn't much for his antics at first. HOWEVER, as I time went on started seeing this parallel--Trump was simply mimicking the outrageous behavior of the left. Then, my observation was, 'hey, this crap's working!' He's actually having an influence on the radical left, and it's become just a little easier to say stuff. Because almost anything I say isn't going to come with the same bombast as what Trump's been saying, and it rarely comes with the unbridled hatred of the left. As time has gone on, I think Trump was exactly the right person for THIS job. My primary candidate would have been just another politician trying to 'rise above' the corruption--even the pettiness of the left and their media muppets. ANYBODY who went into the job would have proven an establishment president reinforcing the corruption that exists. Because they're politicians. Personally, I'd work for Trump, and if he would listen to me (and that's no given), I THINK I could help him better navigate this mess. Of course, I would try to pull him toward reason, and there's the chance the bombast is necessary in this particular iteration of the culture war (weaponized pc/identity politics). SO, in essence, I could be the wrong person to influence Trump because HE'S the right person for this job. I'll get a little dirt on my sleeves, but Trump will just jump in the muck and back stroke. AND, I don't deal well with resistance and those who simply won't tolerate reason. Plus, I'm not as emotional as the left or Trump are, and that's the battlefield on which this war is being waged. He does extremely well in that environment. Anyway,...
The (democrats) catalog of Kavanaugh Crimes.
chuckpo comments on Apr 29, 2019:
No single act stands to condemn Democrat corruption more than the way they eagerly and consciously butchered Brett Kavanaugh in a wholly unwarranted character assassination. I'm not quite ready to joke about this yet, I guess. This is the best example of a flat out heinous mob doing unspeakable ...
chuckpo replies on Apr 29, 2019:
@An_Ominous, yeah, epic rant! Haha, I feel the same way. I literally lost respect for professionals in my own world based on this position on Kavanaugh. I really started considering if there's not afterall a line dividing reasonably intelligent people from whatever that thing that happened is. Is this a case of ignorance by choice, or just ignorance at an inconceivable level? Neither of those options is appealing or complimentary. I still can't organize that mess into any schema I can value or respect. It's appalling, reprehensible--I literally can't find language strong enough to describe my disgust. That is a day the entire left became the KKK.
The (democrats) catalog of Kavanaugh Crimes.
chuckpo comments on Apr 29, 2019:
No single act stands to condemn Democrat corruption more than the way they eagerly and consciously butchered Brett Kavanaugh in a wholly unwarranted character assassination. I'm not quite ready to joke about this yet, I guess. This is the best example of a flat out heinous mob doing unspeakable ...
chuckpo replies on Apr 29, 2019:
@An_Ominous, okay, before I read that, I admit totally killing the humor vibe. I like fun, and I appreciate people being funny. So, I'm debbie-don-downer to your funny thread. And, it is funny. I should have just kept quiet. I got triggered by the topic. I'm sorry, Ominous.
Hey, Keep Out members, not many are joining the group.
CodeBuster comments on Apr 29, 2019:
In order to alleviate any problems from the easily triggered sort, a poster should have an option when posting whether it's intended for that specific group only or open to the general public. Some of the groups get rather controversial and there would be cases of posts being taken out of ...
chuckpo replies on Apr 29, 2019:
Ooh, that's an interesting idea.
Hey, Keep Out members, not many are joining the group.
Halligan comments on Apr 28, 2019:
It would be nice to have that general group returned. Many members seemed to enjoy it.
chuckpo replies on Apr 29, 2019:
@Mrs_SO, we agree. We want the old format where the underlying structure of the site is general, and then groups are imposed over it to funnel specific content. But, admin is having a problem policing everything. I've been there. It's a problem. So, @admin, why can't you just assign moderators? Group originators can handle their groups, and then get 10 moderators to handle general comments. There will need to be a moderator policy. How extensive is the moderation problem? It seems people are handling most things themselves. But, I've reported a post that clearly crossed the line. If everyone else reported a post, admin's buried. Overall, however, it seems like there's not a ton of policing needed. Lot of smart people on the site. Maybe if admin explained the problem, one of your smart folks would come up with an innovative solution...
Zizek Peterson debate
el_canyonero comments on Apr 28, 2019:
I was a bit disappointed there wasn't a real marxist in the debate. First time he said "China" - i thought, great, we're going to hear something about why you are happier without elections. Sad we didn't get a real defense of practical communism and why people are happier there. I wonder why??? ...
chuckpo replies on Apr 29, 2019:
@WilyRickWiles, Okay, make your pitch. Nothing in there--a completely reasonable set of comments--says how this stuff will work. My observation is that types of socialism only works on the back of existing conservative economic principles, and results in things getting worse. Not better. So, what is 'workplace democracy'? What systemic inequity currently exists in the workplace? If someone's giving the company 90% production in relation to individual capacity and someone else is giving the company 60% of their capacity, why should these two people make the same amount of money? Plus, what if the first person is really competent--a problem solver--and the second person is flat out average or worse? How is stratification not natural? If someone goes to school for 8 years, why shouldn't they get a bigger chunk of the pie than someone who didn't go to school? Why should MDs and Cafeteria workers make the same? Look, I think there are other ways to do economy--things people don't talk about. There are other ways of living life. But, capitalists and socialists are supposedly trying to accomplish the same things, and capitalism is hands down better at doing that. The socialism in the workplace has made a lot of things worse. In fact, it seems to make everything it touches worse. At BEST, socialism redistributes the hierarchy where there's a new top and a new bottom, so the people now on top are happy--they have power and control--the new currency. The people who used to be on top, but are now on bottom are no happier than the old bottom was before. Socialism perpetuates the inescapable cycle of marginalization (socialism's dirty little secret).
Here is what the left calls lying.
jakzy comments on Apr 28, 2019:
You like Bernie?.. just wondering...
chuckpo replies on Apr 29, 2019:
No. I like Trump, warts and all. I generally don't tolerate that type of behavior, but in this case he's the first person to come along and give this gross behavior right back to the Democrats who use this stuff for power and control. It's all gross. But, nearly all of the establishment republicans are cowards and refuse to stand up against the left--hiding behind 'the high road'. Man, I get taking the high road, rising above, but sometimes you have to plug your nose, roll up your sleeves, and dig into the muck. Sometimes there's no choice. This is one of those times. To me, Bernie tells the same lies as the far left, and he defends liars. Beyond that, I don't agree AT ALL with his politics. In the end, there's no difference between Bernie and Hillary.
We had a training today in our school.
chuckpo comments on Apr 26, 2019:
Until we're ready to be real again, we're not going to make a lot of progress socially. Yep, inequity caused problems. It was never fair. We should be dealing with how to fix the problem. But, 1) we have been doing that and having success, and 2) we can't be stupid in how we go about things. There ...
chuckpo replies on Apr 28, 2019:
@An_Ominous, absolutely.
Zizek Peterson debate
el_canyonero comments on Apr 28, 2019:
I was a bit disappointed there wasn't a real marxist in the debate. First time he said "China" - i thought, great, we're going to hear something about why you are happier without elections. Sad we didn't get a real defense of practical communism and why people are happier there. I wonder why??? ...
chuckpo replies on Apr 28, 2019:
@DrN1 I really liked Zizek's personality, but did he represent his support for some type of Marxism well? This seems to be the case with socialists. They dont provide details or discuss in the practical. It's always chaotic outrage and pie-in-the-sky, rainbows and lollipops. I've seen a lot of the same in Libertarians, minus the outrage. Ideals are great, but what are you going to DO? How is your ideal going to work?
IWD on a banning spree?
Georgesblogforum comments on Apr 27, 2019:
I was always under the impression that IDW members were self policing . From what I've seen , we take care of our own business pretty well . I've never encountered a problem , but then, I don't go looking for trouble.
chuckpo replies on Apr 27, 2019:
Are you saying I look for trouble? Hehe, just kidding. You set it up. I had to hit it.
IWD on a banning spree?
Admin comments on Apr 27, 2019:
I believe one member had account disabled yesterday for posting the same post in all the IDW member groups. Send me a PM and I'll investigate more. Thanks.
chuckpo replies on Apr 27, 2019:
@OneGodlessWoman, fair enough, but you're jumping the gun. Let things play out before you jump to 'scary'. Question: Should we post every message in every group? What will be the result of this? How fast will members lose interesting in going to any other group if they're all just repeats of each other? I don't know. Some ground rules are sensible. We should talk about it.
Didn't really know where to put this--not loving the group-level posting system yet.
EmbarrassingMom comments on Apr 27, 2019:
Interesting way of thinking through the divide. is far as couples therapy goes it’s not possible to heal the divide without forgiveness. Sometimes people are offensive and the hurt exists until forgiveness is granted. It is helpful for the offender to apologize. But it’s not needed to forgive ....
chuckpo replies on Apr 27, 2019:
Good point. But, how do you bring a bunch of ppl to that place? Couples therapy with an affair can easily take a year or more. Mostly more, and that's with weekly sessions. Plus, the secular side thinks forgiveness--in the way we're using it--is a church word. They dont like things they consider to originate from the church.
Some need to stop acting like spoiled children! Am sick of chasing one around all over this site.
DrN1 comments on Apr 27, 2019:
Ha ha conservatives don't like change, quelle surprise!
chuckpo replies on Apr 27, 2019:
@DrN1, we are funny creatures.
Some need to stop acting like spoiled children! Am sick of chasing one around all over this site.
DrN1 comments on Apr 27, 2019:
Ha ha conservatives don't like change, quelle surprise!
chuckpo replies on Apr 27, 2019:
...and lefties can't accept change, haha.
Know something that drives me bonkers?
jwhitten comments on Apr 26, 2019:
You get no argument from me. I unfortunately voted for Obama. I wasn't particularly enamored with either Romney or McCain. Both of them are pretty scummy too, IMO. The real problem is that we live in a country with a population of over 325 million people and these are the only assholes we can find ...
chuckpo replies on Apr 26, 2019:
@jwhitten You're saving me a lot of typing.
Know something that drives me bonkers?
jwhitten comments on Apr 26, 2019:
You get no argument from me. I unfortunately voted for Obama. I wasn't particularly enamored with either Romney or McCain. Both of them are pretty scummy too, IMO. The real problem is that we live in a country with a population of over 325 million people and these are the only assholes we can find ...
chuckpo replies on Apr 26, 2019:
Epic rant! And I agree with all of it. I was going to vote for Obama, but he blew it. I didn't vote in either of those elections because I wasnt going to vote for Romney or McCain. I cant stand either of them.
Individualism needs a insurance policy against adversarial collectivist ideologies.
chuckpo comments on Apr 26, 2019:
I think there are some pieces missing for me. Are you suggesting a point when it's sensible to expel all Muslims--even peaceful ones (making an assumption you believe there are peaceful Muslims)? I wonder why existing law can't handle the issues where those laws are broken. Sharia law exists on the ...
chuckpo replies on Apr 26, 2019:
@purdyday, that was funny.
Many people argue through identity politics that skin color is a driving force in who they are.
DrN1 comments on Apr 26, 2019:
The colour of a mans' skin is of no more significance than the colour of his eyes. H.I.M. Haile Selaissie Lion of Judah aka Ras Tafari.
chuckpo replies on Apr 26, 2019:
@DrN1, your eyes are red...Now, I'm having a crisis.
We had a training today in our school.
WilyRickWiles comments on Apr 26, 2019:
I would argue that racism is a multi-part problem, to which everyone is susceptible to some degree: 1. Cognitive: Our beliefs on race, 2. Unconscious: How society conditions us to respond to race, especially outside our network, 3. Class: Our willingness to correct inequities across class divisions ...
chuckpo replies on Apr 26, 2019:
@WilyRickWiles **And I'll elaborate on the cognitive and unconscious concepts. A suburban liberal from the North like me might be likely to be cognitively anti-racist and have high unconscious racism. That is, my beliefs are very anti-racist but I don't see a lot of black people in my daily life and I might feel uncomfortable when I see them in public...** Used to have a cat. Cat was cautious around the mean dogs. Oh, and the cat was cautious around the nice dogs. Cat was pretty cautious around people too. Nobody really thought that was weird. Seemed pretty normal. We have to stop pathologizing human nature. Hate is the enemy--not our natural process we brought with us through evolution. Here's a question. Is there something different about dark skin or light skin, or did someone put a negative connotation on the skin? We're not fighting anybody's skin. Nobody has the wrong skin. That's silly. We're fighting the negative connotation. The left so often does this. Make the issue guns when the problem is people feeling alone and hopeless and unseen. How come we don't talk about cars when drunk driving comes up? Human beings are chickens running around frenetically squawking about at every falling leaf. It's not the leaf, right? It's the fear. We waste too much time talking about the wrong things.

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