A friend in Japan reminded me that the 74th Hiroshima Peace Memorial Ceremony was held today.

PalmThis comments on Aug 6, 2019:

Interesting post and you seem to have stirred the pot... It's educational though and I think all points are valid. To your point... How should you present the facts to your children, I think it depends on how old they are. Facts are facts. The younger they are, the less you need to go into detail ...

Naomi replies on Aug 7, 2019:

Hello there. "You seem to have stirred the pot..." Not on purpose - honest! Lol I go along with your view. Plus, in my opinion, how you can present "unpleasant" past events objectively without judging depends on how old those events are and how personally and emotionally you're involved in them. To the British gentleman I mention in the thread, what happened to his father during the war is still a fresh memory, and his hatred towards the Japanese is still raw, several decades on! Slavery is still a huge topic in your country. Do some Germans still feel a little uncomfortable to talk abut their Nazi past? How is the attempt to systematically exterminate indigenous people perceived by the Australian? The list goes on. I still think it is important that we're able to tell our children and grandchildren historical facts without judging, as appropriate, although I appreciate that it can be hard, and to encourage them to learn from reliable sources. Otherwise there is always the risk of passing hate, prejudice, that sort of things to the next generations.

Who says freedom of speech is dead in the UK? Speakers' Corner live and kicking!

acthenpens comments on Aug 4, 2019:

Do you think freedom of speech will still exist when a speech given at speakers corner has censorious consequences, if it hasn't already happened, in that someone is fired, attacked later or imprisoned. Do you think people refrain from certain topics knowing this will likely happen.

Naomi replies on Aug 7, 2019:

Agreed 100%!

A friend in Japan reminded me that the 74th Hiroshima Peace Memorial Ceremony was held today.

Naomi comments on Aug 6, 2019:

Hi everyone. Thanks for your inputs so far. They're all valid and valuable. However, please note that the question I'm asking is "if it is important that one is able to tell younger generations the history of one's country, no matter how dark it may be, as objectively as possible without justifying ...

Naomi replies on Aug 6, 2019:

Hello Garsco. Don't forget, though, not all members here are American. Australia, South Africa, Croatia, France... They all have unique histories including dark sides. ;)

I stumbled on a video on YouTube where a right-wing Jewish vlogger accuses a left-wing Christian of...

RichardLeigh comments on Aug 6, 2019:

Stupidity knows no bounds, does it?

Naomi replies on Aug 6, 2019:

Indeed!

A friend in Japan reminded me that the 74th Hiroshima Peace Memorial Ceremony was held today.

RobBlair comments on Aug 6, 2019:

Proverbs 30:17 NIV The eye that mocks a father, that scorns an aged mother, will be pecked out by the ravens of the valley, will be eaten by the vultures The idea that we sit in judgement over those who came before us is hubris. We should work to build on the foundation we have been given ...

Naomi replies on Aug 6, 2019:

Hello Oxfret, Ah, emotions, emotions! A few years ago, a Japan Day (an introduction to Japanese culture) was held at the guildhall (community centre) in my town. A gentleman stopped by the front door and started shaking. Everybody thought he was going to have a seizure. He wasn't; he was shaking with anger. He was staring at the Japanese flag that was displayed on the front wall. He murmured that he never thought he would see the "enemy's flag" in his hometown. Apparently, his father was killed by the Japanese during the war. Several decades later, his anger and hatred towards the Japanese was still very raw. I simply couldn't comprehend... He would never be able to tell his children and grandchildren about the war objectively... it's profound.

I stumbled on a video on YouTube where a right-wing Jewish vlogger accuses a left-wing Christian of...

george comments on Aug 6, 2019:

It seems the Jewish think any kind of criticism at all is by default anti-Semitic and our media and politicians go along with it because of money. It's almost to the point that only white men can be criticized without fear of being labeled racist or sexist. Very few care about actually focusing ...

Naomi replies on Aug 6, 2019:

Hello. Thanks for your input. Although not as polarized as American society, we have a similar situation in the UK.

A friend in Japan reminded me that the 74th Hiroshima Peace Memorial Ceremony was held today.

Boardwine comments on Aug 6, 2019:

No country is either victim or aggressor. The world is rarely black and white. And history is even less so. I teach my children the history of my nation from my perspective. I'm alright with that, because someone else perspective is both different and irrelevant. Don't get me wrong, I don't ...

Naomi replies on Aug 6, 2019:

Hello. "History is written by the winners". That's an interesting point. The leaders of losing countries are usually tried as war criminals and never the leaders of winning countries, no?

A friend in Japan reminded me that the 74th Hiroshima Peace Memorial Ceremony was held today.

EdNason comments on Aug 6, 2019:

The cost to American lives, and Japanese lives that would have resulted from an invasion of Japan would have been catastrophic. The A-Bomb likely saved Japan as a sovereign nation, If the US would have lost 500,000 (conservative estimates) servicemen in an invasion, plus 2 times more in wounded, the...

Naomi replies on Aug 6, 2019:

There, there... You've somehow demonstrated to everybody that you're unable to tell what happened between the US and Japan as objectively as possible without justifying or blaming. That's OK. You're patriotic. I understand.

I stumbled on a video on YouTube where a right-wing Jewish vlogger accuses a left-wing Christian of...

RMSPT comments on Aug 5, 2019:

The tribal trenches keep getting deeper by both sides. That being said you mentioned equality under the law and I would contend that in a legal case there would be equality but in public forum rhetoric the law does not apply. A lot of people talk about free-speech etc. and free speech only has legal...

Naomi replies on Aug 5, 2019:

Hello. I take your point with regard to the entitlement to the equal protection of the law. As for enforcing laws, do you think that the police, as a law-enforcement body, are implicitly biased to protected groups? While laws are impartial, if law-enforcers fail to be impartial, that'll be a violation of the equal protection law.

I stumbled on a video on YouTube where a right-wing Jewish vlogger accuses a left-wing Christian of...

AndrewInVail comments on Aug 5, 2019:

Welcome to modern tribalism; where the only two cardinal sins are to not be a member of the tribe you are addressing, and to not identify as belonging to a tribe that they can attack you for being a member.

Naomi replies on Aug 5, 2019:

Hello. I'm definitely staying out of it. I'm not guilty! Lol!

Who says freedom of speech is dead in the UK? Speakers' Corner live and kicking!

acthenpens comments on Aug 4, 2019:

Do you think freedom of speech will still exist when a speech given at speakers corner has censorious consequences, if it hasn't already happened, in that someone is fired, attacked later or imprisoned. Do you think people refrain from certain topics knowing this will likely happen.

Naomi replies on Aug 5, 2019:

Sounds like fun. Lucky you! I live in Plymouth - too far away to enjoy spectacles at Speakers' Corner often. A peculiarly British bastion of free speech, and I like it. :) When face-to-face debates take place in a public space like Speakers' Corner, i.e., the real world rather than the virtual world, people behave more like "real" people than like "avatars". I think it's good that people are mindful that they debate in a civilised and lawful manner (the police are present at Speakers' Corner - naturally), and that shouldn't interfere with freedom of speech. Incidentally, I don't know any individual cases where ordinary people got fired, attacked or imprisoned as a result of making speeches. Do you?

Who says freedom of speech is dead in the UK? Speakers' Corner live and kicking!

acthenpens comments on Aug 4, 2019:

Do you think freedom of speech will still exist when a speech given at speakers corner has censorious consequences, if it hasn't already happened, in that someone is fired, attacked later or imprisoned. Do you think people refrain from certain topics knowing this will likely happen.

Naomi replies on Aug 4, 2019:

Hello. You make a fair point? I notice you live in London. Have you been to Hyde Park to listen to (or make) any speech?

Who says freedom of speech is dead in the UK? Speakers' Corner live and kicking!

ScottforKing comments on Aug 4, 2019:

It's a matter of bull shit baffles brains. I am amazed that this man has an audience which brings into question any brains.

Naomi replies on Aug 4, 2019:

You always reserve the right not to waste your time and to leave. ;)

Who says freedom of speech is dead in the UK? Speakers' Corner live and kicking!

ScottforKing comments on Aug 4, 2019:

It's a matter of bull shit baffles brains. I am amazed that this man has an audience which brings into question any brains.

Naomi replies on Aug 4, 2019:

Hello. I agree regarding the subject debated in the video, but that's besides the point. There is a sort of silent agreement that if you are only going to ridicule or insult a speaker, refrain yourself from getting engaged in a debate. :)

Following the video WorlSigh posted, here is the letter by Tommy Robinson who is currently in prison...

WorldSigh comments on Aug 4, 2019:

@Naomi, thank you so much for posting Tommy’s letter! He seems to be in a much better situation than last time. I think the swelling ranks of Tommy supporters has made the powers that be a bit more cautious!

Naomi replies on Aug 4, 2019:

You're welcome. Because there was a huge speculation that the establishment tried to get TR killed last time he was in prison (thanks to one particular prison officer who leaked the plot to TR so that he could take the initiative), if he was killed while in prison this time, the speculation would become a belief, if not truth. Maybe that's why he was isolated straight away, although he didn't request it, to ensure that his life is not at risk (basically the government is covering its backside). I don't agree with everything TR does or says, but it very much appears that the establishment is trying to silence him at all costs, which I find difficult to justify...

Woke to Broke: Gillette Loses Billions After Anti-Men, Transgender Shaving Ads

WilyRickWiles comments on Aug 3, 2019:

What does a razor ad campaign have to do with the Democratic Party?

Naomi replies on Aug 3, 2019:

Association by implicit bias... maybe?

As an atheist, do you believe in the concept of good and evil?

Scanderbeg comments on Aug 3, 2019:

It is interesting reading some of the replies and what people actually believe when it comes to good and evil. Since we cant comprehend all there is, we have to draw a line somewhere. Cynicism is no way of living. For the past 20 years, Ive flip floped a few times when it comes to categorizing...

Naomi replies on Aug 3, 2019:

Hello. I would go along with your thoughts. You mention Hitler, and I was thinking of the atom bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. We will soon be reminded of this, actually next week, and as they do every year, some will be arguing that it should/could have been avoided and others will be frantically defending that there was no other choice. It seems hard, if not impossible, to draw a clear line between good and evil in the justification of choices in moral dilemmas such as your example and mine.

Finally, a Democrat worth supporting - spiked

Boardwine comments on Aug 2, 2019:

I'm a conservative so I wouldn't support her or any of the Democratic field. I will say I like her anti-war stance and some of what she says I agree with partly at any rate. Yang is halfway decent. Some of the other second tier candidates are are not utterly insane. But it's a moot point. She ...

Naomi replies on Aug 2, 2019:

Hello there. Fair enough that you don't support the Democrats, but glad to know that you have the ability to identify reasonable ones among them. I know some can't - views are polarised among the British public as well as in the American public.

Finally, a Democrat worth supporting - spiked

timon_phocas comments on Aug 2, 2019:

Info on Tulsi Gabbard is kind of sparse. Her father served in the military, has a family business and is a politician. She had followed in his footsteps, working in the family business, being a politician, and serving in the Army National Guard. She served 1 tour in Iraq (2004/05) and ...

Naomi replies on Aug 2, 2019:

Oh... but at least she served 1 tour in Iraq and another in Kuwait, no? I guess that wasn't a career as such because it was only a short period of time in each country. I assumed that she became anti-war because of her experience in those countries.

Finally, a Democrat worth supporting - spiked

WilyRickWiles comments on Aug 2, 2019:

While she has been good on some antiwar issues, she has worrying associations with far right nationalist politicians across the world (e.g., in India and Israel). And her support for gay and abortion rights is dubious. ...

Naomi replies on Aug 2, 2019:

Hello there. "Associations with far right nationalist politicians across the world"! That doesn't sound right... Still, I find her political stance interesting. I shall learn more about her. Thanks for the info.

Finally, a Democrat worth supporting - spiked

timon_phocas comments on Aug 2, 2019:

Info on Tulsi Gabbard is kind of sparse. Her father served in the military, has a family business and is a politician. She had followed in his footsteps, working in the family business, being a politician, and serving in the Army National Guard. She served 1 tour in Iraq (2004/05) and ...

Naomi replies on Aug 2, 2019:

Hello. Thank you for the info. She sounds interesting. It's always a good sign, in my opinion, that a politician has or had a career outside politics.

Yellow Vest in Paris, Extinction Rebellion in London, etc.

AhrimanXV comments on Aug 1, 2019:

If a movement has something else going on at the same time then street protest is a good way to maintain news coverage while other things go on behind the scenes. I think this is partly how the civil rights movement operated, they knew that for the law to change required lengthy legal cases which ...

Naomi replies on Aug 1, 2019:

Hello. Thanks for your input. 'On the other hand if a government really has pushed too far and riots break out, with sufficient perseverance they could theoretically topple the government or bring them to the table.' Theoretically - exactly, and it doesn't seem practical enough. Look at the yellow vest protest in Paris. It's been going on for almost 40 weeks now, yet, they don't seem to be getting anywhere. Macron has never taken the protesters seriously, and the media have lost interest ages ago. Then, I have to ask "What is the point?" Nobody seems to be benefiting from it. It must be very bad for the local economy in Paris, for example. Because I have a great deal of sympathy with them, I find it frustrating that they're not achieving anything.

A media pundit has mentioned today the phenomena of politicians being "SCHOOLED".

WilyRickWiles comments on Aug 1, 2019:

Ben Shapiro https://www.amazon.com/How-Debate-Leftists-Destroy-Them-ebook/dp/B00JRJQ7Z2 is the first thing that comes to mind. I first started noticing this sort of thing around the time Trump was elected. The style of political coverage perhaps can be traced to "Crossfire" on CNN. ...

Naomi replies on Aug 1, 2019:

Hello. I watched it as well. The clickbait degrades his quality, though... shame.

I came back from my first foray into Tokyo on vacation a little over a week ago, and I want to go ...

Broeklien comments on Jul 31, 2019:

This is not first hand, but my friends go to Japan ones or twice a year as tourists and experience the same politeness and adore the style of hospitality, however in Japan the tourist class will never be considered their own class and there is a whole world of cultural functions and symbolic ...

Naomi replies on Aug 1, 2019:

I would say that Japan has been watching closely what has been happening in the West and possible consequences of it, re: immigration and migration.

I came back from my first foray into Tokyo on vacation a little over a week ago, and I want to go ...

Babou comments on Jul 31, 2019:

Yes, but on the other hand if you read some WW II books like Ghost Soldiers or Flyboys, you realize that the Japanese culture of the first half of his century must have been pretty pathological. So it's amazing how fast a culture can change. Same with Germany over the same period, but there was ...

Naomi replies on Aug 1, 2019:

With regard to one nation's brutality to another, the Japanese, especially the old generation, would talk about Hiroshima and Nagasaki from a very different viewpoint from Americans. I believe that every country has a dark side to its history. I think it is important to acknowledge it as a fact, objectively, remember it by all means so as not to repeat it, and move on. I would rather put an emphasis on positive, constructive attitude; for example, Japanese and Korean football (soccer) fans cheered side by side at the World Cup when it was held in Japan.

Ebola is spreading Have you noticed ?

Naomi comments on Jul 31, 2019:

Hello. I've read or heard somewhere that you also have plague (black death) spreading in the U.S. Is that true?

Naomi replies on Jul 31, 2019:

Hello iThink, The post says "Ebola is spreading..." and that reminded me that I read or heard about plague in the U.S. - that's all. And I found the article I read. https://pets.webmd.com/cats/news/20190118/plague-what-to-know-in-2019

Ebola is spreading Have you noticed ?

Naomi comments on Jul 31, 2019:

Hello. I've read or heard somewhere that you also have plague (black death) spreading in the U.S. Is that true?

Naomi replies on Jul 31, 2019:

Well, you live in a huge country; it must be hard to keep any contagious illnesses and diseases under control...

Video: Muslim Woman in Burka Shouts “Shame on You!” at Gay Pride Parade – Summit News

DrN1 comments on Jul 30, 2019:

why post this? who gives a fuck?

Naomi replies on Jul 30, 2019:

“God created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve.” A good line, though. Lol

The President Is Right About Baltimore - The Resurgent

coalburned comments on Jul 29, 2019:

I've posted on this a few times lately. Racism/racist are tossed around so carelessly the days that they are almost meaningless words. Trump was correct about conditions in Baltimore. I wish he would choose better words, but that's how he rolls. But it for sure doesn't make him a racist to call it...

Naomi replies on Jul 30, 2019:

Hello. I agree. Incidentally, someone else was saying here that Trump should behave like a proper statesman and stop throwing words around so carelessly. Meanwhile, we have a new Prime Minister, Boris Johnson, who is also known for saying controversial things... What a time to be alive, eh? Lol

The President Is Right About Baltimore - The Resurgent

dgerts comments on Jul 29, 2019:

I used to live there. The low quality of the city's citizens was not unique to any ethnicity, complexion, or income level--it was just a crappy city overall. He's right but that was completely unnecessary. How did it help anything? Just another divisive tweet aimed at a state he didn't win. Maybe ...

Naomi replies on Jul 29, 2019:

His advisers may be cunning enough. Lol

The President Is Right About Baltimore - The Resurgent

dgerts comments on Jul 29, 2019:

I used to live there. The low quality of the city's citizens was not unique to any ethnicity, complexion, or income level--it was just a crappy city overall. He's right but that was completely unnecessary. How did it help anything? Just another divisive tweet aimed at a state he didn't win. Maybe ...

Naomi replies on Jul 29, 2019:

Hello. I was having a similar thought. The way Trump described Baltimore sounds extreme (but I don't know the city), but I've got enough people to tell me that it is a fact. I was wondering if it is thinkable that Trump knew what kind of reaction he was going to get from the Democrats by describing Baltimore the way he did and he successfully prompted them to play the race card? Is it thinkable that he initiated the race game without getting his hands dirty and let them slander him so that he could increase support for him?

The President Is Right About Baltimore - The Resurgent

Naomi comments on Jul 29, 2019:

All right. it seems it is a "fact" that Baltimore is a hellhole, and I agree that it is not racist to say so. I live in the UK, and I've just learnt that more than 60% of Baltimore's population are black, hence, the race card is likely played. But, how can I know that Trump himself is not playing ...

Naomi replies on Jul 29, 2019:

Is it thinkable that Trump knew what kind of reaction he was going to get from the Democrats by describing Baltimore as a "a disgusting, rat and rodent infested mess" (which is a fact but by using rather strong words to describe it) and he successfully prompted the Democrats to play the race card? Is it thinkable that he initiated the race game without getting his hands dirty and let them slander him so that he could increase support for him? Maybe, I'm too cynical to think that. :P

The President Is Right About Baltimore - The Resurgent

Naomi comments on Jul 29, 2019:

All right. it seems it is a "fact" that Baltimore is a hellhole, and I agree that it is not racist to say so. I live in the UK, and I've just learnt that more than 60% of Baltimore's population are black, hence, the race card is likely played. But, how can I know that Trump himself is not playing ...

Naomi replies on Jul 29, 2019:

Hello Rob, Can you give me an example? What kind of situation are you envisaging?

[youtube.com] Ummmm.........

JimbobNE comments on Jul 29, 2019:

Baltimore, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Detroit and Seattle all dealing with filth. Los Angeles has already started with a Black Plague outbreak, Who is next and how many people will die. Tuberculosis, small pox what is next. Get your body bags ready we will need them in big numbers. I think I may ...

Naomi replies on Jul 29, 2019:

Hello. You're exaggerating, right?

The President Is Right About Baltimore - The Resurgent

PalmThis comments on Jul 29, 2019:

...

Naomi replies on Jul 29, 2019:

Hello. Any decent leftists (not ideologues) would acknowledge Trump's remark as a "fact", no?

Those protesting Muslim parents are in the right - spiked

Veronique1 comments on Jul 23, 2019:

I can’t believe the futility of the last question “if you are against LGBT education at schools, how would you introduce this reality to your children?” Seriously? I fail to see why the 8% of the population at large is s mandatory subject in schools and be imposed as a ‘reality ‘ , ...

Naomi replies on Jul 29, 2019:

Hello Serg97, No one in this thread, including myself, would argue against you. Do you know any LGBT person personally? I have a LGBT neighbour. He became a she a few years ago because of the tragic circumstances he had to go through, including he became blind as a result of a terrible accident. He discovered new him. He is one of those LGBT who do not wish to be identified with activist-type LGBT. He is so discrete that I'm not sure if any children in our neighbourhood realise what he is. I have a couple of acquaintances like that as well. So, I would be very careful if I were to answer those questions. I would be careful not to generalise them and not to pass on the prejudice generated against them while not normalising their sexual orientations. How exactly (wording)? I have to think about that closely...

IDW seems to be imploding in its own narrow minded assumptions as far as this platform goes, no big ...

ObiRonMoldy comments on Jul 27, 2019:

I'm not left wing. I'm pretty up front about that. But nor am i right wing. That said, I find this website to be heavily weighted to the right. Earlier today I posted an article about the Supreme ct supporting Trump with allocation of $2.7 B, iirc, from defense spending for the wall. A ...

Naomi replies on Jul 28, 2019:

@ObiRonMoldy I'm here for the same reason. I found some decent (and funny) people here who have interesting views; you can have proper discussions with them. It's funny that our true colours eventually come through our own comments despite the fact that we know very little about each other. Lol

IDW seems to be imploding in its own narrow minded assumptions as far as this platform goes, no big ...

ObiRonMoldy comments on Jul 27, 2019:

I'm not left wing. I'm pretty up front about that. But nor am i right wing. That said, I find this website to be heavily weighted to the right. Earlier today I posted an article about the Supreme ct supporting Trump with allocation of $2.7 B, iirc, from defense spending for the wall. A ...

Naomi replies on Jul 28, 2019:

Hello DrN1, ObiRonMoldy and FaithJones, Same here. There is nothing wrong with being left-ish and right-ish at the same time. It proves that you have the ability to think critically and objectively from multiple angles. Many seem to have very polarised views, or seem oversensitive, and if you happen to have different opinions from theirs, or make criticism of whatever they like or believe, you may get nasty comebacks. There is one particular individual who, once he found that I'm an immigrant in England, "sent a message" to tell me to go back to my own country. He is also so foul-mouthed (he justifies his choice of words in the name of free speech) that I (and some others, I believe) reported him to the admin, and guess what - he is still here. He is a nasty person underneath. Incidentally,I've actually read "About Us" with regard to abusive behaviour, but the rules clearly have no effect whatsoever. Ah well, different members are here for different reasons, I guess. If they are here because they fancy picking up fights, having a good moan, etc., so be it, too trivial to be bothered with, although such reasons clearly defeat the good intention of developing this site. Additionally, I acknowledge a "birds of a feather" nature of humans. While we would like to keep a critical eye on echo-chamber and confirmation-bias behaviour, it is after all a natural human behaviour, wouldn't you say?

When you start looking at matters objectively... Dave Rubin and Yaron Brook Live at UCF - YouTube

Biosphere comments on Jul 23, 2019:

Sounds like you want the world to change. How would you like it to be? Seriously.

Naomi replies on Jul 26, 2019:

You too, Biosphere. And try not to drink too much.

I fucking hate politics.

Naomi comments on Jul 26, 2019:

There, there... 😌

Naomi replies on Jul 26, 2019:

Don't let alcohol control your life.

When you start looking at matters objectively... Dave Rubin and Yaron Brook Live at UCF - YouTube

Biosphere comments on Jul 23, 2019:

Sounds like you want the world to change. How would you like it to be? Seriously.

Naomi replies on Jul 26, 2019:

Hello Biosphere, I don't fancy either of them.

Welllllllllllllllllllll.

Naomi comments on Jul 25, 2019:

Hello. Thanks for managing the group. High Q adds a bit of colour to this site - that's all - although it is a little tiresome that his posts usually end up in bickering with others (often the same members). Ah well, still no harm done.

Naomi replies on Jul 26, 2019:

@jwhitten Too trivial to be bothered by it, plus, it takes two to tango in my opinion.

Just brilliant!!!

Biosphere comments on Jul 25, 2019:

I'll drink to that 'peace' later tonight. Bottoms up!

Naomi replies on Jul 25, 2019:

Cheers!

Anyone brave enough to make an attempt in forming an argument against their own stances on current ...

govols comments on Jul 25, 2019:

I'm sometimes afraid to. It would really piss me off if I argued a bad position and my argument was used to get it implemented.

Naomi replies on Jul 25, 2019:

Hi. You're honest. x

Anyone brave enough to make an attempt in forming an argument against their own stances on current ...

FaithJones comments on Jul 25, 2019:

We could start a Sophist group to do exactly this, make a convincing case against our own beliefs. The only problem is, people reading it would not understand we stood for the opposite. There would have to be a disclaimer at the top if every post.

Naomi replies on Jul 25, 2019:

Go for it, DesireNoDesires!

Anyone brave enough to make an attempt in forming an argument against their own stances on current ...

ObiRonMoldy comments on Jul 25, 2019:

I actually do this on a not too irregular basis--though I can't say everything is always 100% original. As someone who is fairly moderate, I discuss issues here with those who are primarily right wing/conservative/Trump supporters/Libertarian. In other forums, I discuss things with many who are left...

Naomi replies on Jul 25, 2019:

Hi FaithJones, That's exactly what I do.

Does India deserve foreign aid when they can afford this kind of project...?

camerakid61 comments on Jul 25, 2019:

Well, America has lots of problems to be resolved and is trillions of dollars in debt. Yet we're still sending rovers to Mars and making plans to colonize both Mars and the Moon. So we should talk?

Naomi replies on Jul 25, 2019:

Point taken.

Welllllllllllllllllllll.

Naomi comments on Jul 25, 2019:

Hello. Thanks for managing the group. High Q adds a bit of colour to this site - that's all - although it is a little tiresome that his posts usually end up in bickering with others (often the same members). Ah well, still no harm done.

Naomi replies on Jul 25, 2019:

@RemiDallaire A great photo!

Welllllllllllllllllllll.

Naomi comments on Jul 25, 2019:

Hello. Thanks for managing the group. High Q adds a bit of colour to this site - that's all - although it is a little tiresome that his posts usually end up in bickering with others (often the same members). Ah well, still no harm done.

Naomi replies on Jul 25, 2019:

@RemiDallaire Well, I guess some just can't resist picking up fights (and they can do so only in the virtual world). 😆😆😆

My blue tree hollyhock.

Floria_M comments on Jul 24, 2019:

We call those Rose Of Sharon in North America. Wonderful photo!

Naomi replies on Jul 25, 2019:

Hello. Rose of Sharon! That's a much better name for them. :)

Those protesting Muslim parents are in the right - spiked

Veronique1 comments on Jul 23, 2019:

I can’t believe the futility of the last question “if you are against LGBT education at schools, how would you introduce this reality to your children?” Seriously? I fail to see why the 8% of the population at large is s mandatory subject in schools and be imposed as a ‘reality ‘ , ...

Naomi replies on Jul 24, 2019:

I rest my case.

My blue tree hollyhock.

Boardwine comments on Jul 24, 2019:

Beautiful!

Naomi replies on Jul 24, 2019:

Thank you. Do hollyhock trees grow in America, too? (I live in England).

Those protesting Muslim parents are in the right - spiked

Veronique1 comments on Jul 23, 2019:

I can’t believe the futility of the last question “if you are against LGBT education at schools, how would you introduce this reality to your children?” Seriously? I fail to see why the 8% of the population at large is s mandatory subject in schools and be imposed as a ‘reality ‘ , ...

Naomi replies on Jul 24, 2019:

So... How would you respond if a child asked you "Why does my friend have two mums but no dads?" ?

Not sure if I want to laugh or cry. 🙄

Boardwine comments on Jul 23, 2019:

Why? I don't know much about him ( or any UK politician) but he seems to want to get Brexit done, which was voted for by the people.

Naomi replies on Jul 24, 2019:

Hello DrN1, That's an interesting view - never thought that way.

Not sure if I want to laugh or cry. 🙄

Boardwine comments on Jul 23, 2019:

Why? I don't know much about him ( or any UK politician) but he seems to want to get Brexit done, which was voted for by the people.

Naomi replies on Jul 24, 2019:

@Boardwine What are you saying? A double meaning? Or have I got a twisted mind? Loving it! 😂🤣

Not sure if I want to laugh or cry. 🙄

Aurelien comments on Jul 24, 2019:

I don't even know what to say. At least Theresa knew how to use a comb. Funny how he reminds me of Trump. They both are the toddlers of politics: one is a tantrum-throwing clueless little brat with a nasty attitude, the other the little clown of the nursery, fooling around like a prat (both ...

Naomi replies on Jul 24, 2019:

Hi there. Having said all that, Trump is still standing, and Boris is an Oxford graduate and he is well read. And yes, what a time to be alive!

When you start looking at matters objectively... Dave Rubin and Yaron Brook Live at UCF - YouTube

Biosphere comments on Jul 23, 2019:

Sounds like you want the world to change. How would you like it to be? Seriously.

Naomi replies on Jul 24, 2019:

Hello. That's too big a question to answer. Seriously.

Those protesting Muslim parents are in the right - spiked

Veronique1 comments on Jul 23, 2019:

I can’t believe the futility of the last question “if you are against LGBT education at schools, how would you introduce this reality to your children?” Seriously? I fail to see why the 8% of the population at large is s mandatory subject in schools and be imposed as a ‘reality ‘ , ...

Naomi replies on Jul 24, 2019:

There, there... I can feel your frustration and I have a great deal of sympathy with what you're saying. However, I have to ask... Are you saying that the LGBT community is so small (8% of the population according to you) that it is OK to regard them nonexistent, i.e., not a "reality"?

The Remnant Founding Spirit of America Needs THIS... [youtube.com]

Naomi comments on Jul 23, 2019:

Hello. He's wearing grey again! But with stripes on this occasion, so that's slight improvement. He would look good in pale pink or blue, I think. There's a lot of negativity generated in the UK, too. I'm a glass-half-full person by nature, but I find it hard to stay positive sometimes. We could ...

Naomi replies on Jul 23, 2019:

I think one has to make a conscious effort to be positive and constructive. Whatever is making one unhappy, complaining and blaming others while doing nothing about it is the easiest option, and I can't help thinking that it is part of human nature... sadly. :(

Not sure if I want to laugh or cry. 🙄

Boardwine comments on Jul 23, 2019:

Why? I don't know much about him ( or any UK politician) but he seems to want to get Brexit done, which was voted for by the people.

Naomi replies on Jul 23, 2019:

Hello. With all due respect, the UK is not all about Brexit...

Does India deserve foreign aid when they can afford this kind of project...?

Wtretired comments on Jul 22, 2019:

Foreign aid is not really about helping the needy. It is about foreign policy and influence. It is about projecting power. Why do we subsidize Europe’s defense? Being nice is a cover for attempting to get what you want. We must never stop asking why? Sometimes it may take a few hundred asks ...

Naomi replies on Jul 22, 2019:

Thank you, Wtretired. Organski's theory and Kenneth Waltz's theory sound interesting. I'll check them out.

Does India deserve foreign aid when they can afford this kind of project...?

Wtretired comments on Jul 22, 2019:

Foreign aid is not really about helping the needy. It is about foreign policy and influence. It is about projecting power. Why do we subsidize Europe’s defense? Being nice is a cover for attempting to get what you want. We must never stop asking why? Sometimes it may take a few hundred asks ...

Naomi replies on Jul 22, 2019:

Hello. Being cynical isn't a bad thing at all. The last thing we want is to be treated by anyone like we were born yesterday. Does the U.S. give foreign aid to India?

Does India deserve foreign aid when they can afford this kind of project...?

AndrewInVail comments on Jul 22, 2019:

No nation "deserves" foreign aid from another nation. I understand why it is done, but that doesn't justify it in my mind. India's large and growing undeserving poor and needy population has nothing to do with foreign aid, little to do with their space program, and almost everything to do with their...

Naomi replies on Jul 22, 2019:

Hello. Perhaps the question should be "Why does the UK need or want to give foreign aid to India?"

I stumbled on this statement: "Prisoners on death row may offer their organs.

DuranDuran comments on Jul 22, 2019:

Doesn't dying by poison kind of screw up your organs?

Naomi replies on Jul 22, 2019:

What kind of conversation is this? If we're having this conversation at a bar, we'll draw police attention. 😂 🤣

"Victimhood is heavily rewarded in our society.

SIMONTACCHI comments on Jul 17, 2019:

I'm 63 and I have known a lot of bigots, all shades of color, they are very Tribal and they self-segregate almost all of the time, so there no real interaction to create a problem. The crazy Nazis have marched for years, we ignored them and they were getting fewer and fewer every year. Most people ...

Naomi replies on Jul 22, 2019:

Hello Simon. I watched the video, interesting, and I see what you mean by "California is a failed state". It is sad. I find it interesting that each state of the U.S. is run like a mini country; the type of tax and it's amount, among other things, vary from state to state, and people are therefore free to move from one state to another for conditions that suit them better. Neither of too much socialistic thinking (high taxation) and too much individualistic thinking (I have a good life, thank you very much) is good in my opinion. It looks like California needs big overhaul.

I stumbled on this statement: "Prisoners on death row may offer their organs.

DuranDuran comments on Jul 22, 2019:

Doesn't dying by poison kind of screw up your organs?

Naomi replies on Jul 22, 2019:

Hello. Hanging would be all right...

Maybe the best single article I’ve ever read on the politics if the Israel/Arab divide and how it ...

Naomi comments on Jul 21, 2019:

Hello. I don't fully understand Israel/Arab divide and the US involvement - it's complicated, but I can't help thinking that Palestinian Christians are conveniently forgotten... Judeo-Christian is a term grouping Christianity and Judaism together. If Christianity and Judaism are supposed to go hand ...

Naomi replies on Jul 21, 2019:

@dmatic, @Babou I am a non-believer, as I grew up in a secular environment, but I have always understood that religious belief is a very personal thing, so I respect that one shall lead one's life as one's faith dictates. I shall leave it like that. I learned that among the Palestinians who were systematically targeted and expelled by Israeli forces during the 1948 Nakbathe were Christians, and today, they are denied access to Jerusalem by the Zionist government. Israel-Palestine conflict is generally perceived as Judeo-Christian vs Muslim, and this perception excludes the existence of the Palestinian Christians who are caught up in the middle of it all - because they don't fit in the narrative...? Hence my comment "Palestinian Christians are conveniently forgotten". What do you think?

"Victimhood is heavily rewarded in our society.

SIMONTACCHI comments on Jul 17, 2019:

I'm 63 and I have known a lot of bigots, all shades of color, they are very Tribal and they self-segregate almost all of the time, so there no real interaction to create a problem. The crazy Nazis have marched for years, we ignored them and they were getting fewer and fewer every year. Most people ...

Naomi replies on Jul 21, 2019:

Hello. Thanks ever so much for your wonderful comment. I notice that you are in California and I've recently learnt that Berkeley Council bans gendered language to promote inclusivity. Spearheaded by a 23-year-old councillor, Rigel Robinson (shouldn't it be 'Robin-offspring'...?), ‘brother’ will be changed to ‘sibling’ and ‘manmade’ will become ‘humanmade’, and ‘pregnant women’ will be changed to ‘pregnant employees’ and ‘sportsmen’ will become ‘hunters’, and so on. I think this is insane.How possible is it to exercise such a rule, I wonder... Do you think anyone in California would bother reporting to the authority because someone didn't address his/her brother/sister as "sibling"? What is it like to live in California? (I live in the UK, so I don't know.)

If you think the chant was wrong or damaging...

Aurelien comments on Jul 19, 2019:

Then go on... Go and tell one of your coworker 'Go back to your country!' and see what happen. In most companies where I live it's gross misconduct and get you the sack, and rightly so. To attack someone on their background (ethnic or religious) is discriminatory. To do so for political gain is ...

Naomi replies on Jul 21, 2019:

Thanks for your insight, DanielEvans.

Is this true, American folks?

RegnadKcin comments on Jul 20, 2019:

How can they use 'humanmade?' It has 'man' in the middle.

Naomi replies on Jul 21, 2019:

Hello. And the councillor's own surname 'Robinson'. He should correct it to 'Robin-offspring'.

Is this true, American folks?

Seasteader comments on Jul 20, 2019:

This would effectively ban almost all languages other than English because most use strongly gendered pronouns. German and French are good examples. The idiocy of California never ceases to amaze me.

Naomi replies on Jul 20, 2019:

Hello. Political correctness has gone mad.

When you start looking at matters objectively... Dave Rubin and Yaron Brook Live at UCF - YouTube

RobBlair comments on Jul 20, 2019:

Happy to listen to the lot of them. There is so much to learn and so much life to enjoy. Recently heard someone say (probably Klavan) that the quick, argumentative format of discussion that we get on News shows "..makes us feel stupid."

Naomi replies on Jul 20, 2019:

Hello there. J. Haidt was in Britain some months ago. He was a guest on a political programme, and was impressed that British politicians of opposite parties sat side by side at the table, ready to have a civilised debate. Lol

Those protesting Muslim parents are in the right - spiked

coalburned comments on Jul 20, 2019:

Personally, I don't want public schools within a hundred miles of anything that has a moral component. That includes religion, prayer, evolution, creationism, sex ed, and politics. No way I want any govt institution teaching my kids or grandkids right and wrong. And for the record, I'm a ...

Naomi replies on Jul 20, 2019:

Hello. I grew up in a secular environment but I've always thought religious belief is a very personal thing. I really don't think that the state should interfere with religious belief, let alone politicising it.

Those protesting Muslim parents are in the right - spiked

AndrewInVail comments on Jul 20, 2019:

When you allow the state to become the authority in your children's education, it shouldn't surprise you when unelected bureaucrats you don't agree with use the force of the state, to indoctrinate your children with their cause du jour. *The state is force.* Force does not belong in education. ...

Naomi replies on Jul 20, 2019:

Hello there.. The current UK government is very inconsistent in my opinion. They are so politically correct that they are protective of the Muslim community and even allow Sharia courts to run. But now this - when Muslim parents oppose to the LGBT education programme, the government blame the Muslims being intolerant... We're going to have a new conservative Prime Minister next week. Can't say, things are going to change much... :(

If you think the chant was wrong or damaging...

Aurelien comments on Jul 19, 2019:

Then go on... Go and tell one of your coworker 'Go back to your country!' and see what happen. In most companies where I live it's gross misconduct and get you the sack, and rightly so. To attack someone on their background (ethnic or religious) is discriminatory. To do so for political gain is ...

Naomi replies on Jul 20, 2019:

Greetings to you, Aurelien! You may have declared war against Trump worshippers. Lol I heard some time ago that America is so divided and polarised that politicians with opposite views won't sit together to have any debate, let alone come to any agreement, like they do in the UK. Not sure how true this is though. I also normally stay away from the generalisation of any kind. I, too, am an immigrant in the UK and, like you, I integrate with the British rather well. I must admit I don't appreciate it when people paint a bad picture of immigrants as faceless collective... Anyway, have a good weekend!

If you think the chant was wrong or damaging...

Aurelien comments on Jul 19, 2019:

Then go on... Go and tell one of your coworker 'Go back to your country!' and see what happen. In most companies where I live it's gross misconduct and get you the sack, and rightly so. To attack someone on their background (ethnic or religious) is discriminatory. To do so for political gain is ...

Naomi replies on Jul 20, 2019:

Hello DanielEvans. You've lost me... I think what you're saying is that desperate situations ("war" as you put it) require desperate measures, and one of those desperate measures is chanting "Send her back!", is it? Correct me if I'm wrong. (Incidentally, this whole incident, i.e. Trump's controversial wording followed by the chant, has been reported, debated, analysed, etc., day after day over here in the UK. The media just can't get enough of it. Lol It would be fair to say, however, that it has been taken out of the context by anti-Trump media.)

If you think the chant was wrong or damaging...

Aurelien comments on Jul 19, 2019:

Then go on... Go and tell one of your coworker 'Go back to your country!' and see what happen. In most companies where I live it's gross misconduct and get you the sack, and rightly so. To attack someone on their background (ethnic or religious) is discriminatory. To do so for political gain is ...

Naomi replies on Jul 19, 2019:

Hello. "It's not about pro-Trump or anti-Trump; Democrats or Republicans. It's about basic decency and respect." I couldn't agree more,

Warning to the Left: Let's Not Destroy Ourselves - YouTube

Bay0Wulf comments on Jul 18, 2019:

Hunh! So he starts off being all about racism ... or who can be a racist ... based, apparently on the entire concept that Trump “is a racist”. Honestly the first caller is a stupid twit but he reveals a bunch of garbage about himself ... However he’s going to be very pedantic and explain ...

Naomi replies on Jul 18, 2019:

@Don_Provolone, @Bay0Wulf Maybe because they're from homogeneous countries where they have close-knit communities with traditional values... so they're not likely to integrate with others of different kinds... a birds of a feather-like mentality...? I don't know. Also, it is probably to do with historical backgrounds...? I once met an old Japanese person who expressed bitter feelings towards Americans because Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombing... Prejudice is a terrible thing, no?.

Warning to the Left: Let's Not Destroy Ourselves - YouTube

Bay0Wulf comments on Jul 18, 2019:

Hunh! So he starts off being all about racism ... or who can be a racist ... based, apparently on the entire concept that Trump “is a racist”. Honestly the first caller is a stupid twit but he reveals a bunch of garbage about himself ... However he’s going to be very pedantic and explain ...

Naomi replies on Jul 18, 2019:

@Don_Provolone That's prejudice and narrow-mindedness all right. :(

Warning to the Left: Let's Not Destroy Ourselves - YouTube

Bay0Wulf comments on Jul 18, 2019:

Hunh! So he starts off being all about racism ... or who can be a racist ... based, apparently on the entire concept that Trump “is a racist”. Honestly the first caller is a stupid twit but he reveals a bunch of garbage about himself ... However he’s going to be very pedantic and explain ...

Naomi replies on Jul 18, 2019:

Hello there. How are you? "The MOST Racist People I’ve ever met are; Asian, Blacks and Hispanics who are MOST “Racist” against People of Their Own “Type” but Different “Ethnicity”". An interesting observation there. Elaborate, please, with an example or two. I'm intrigued.

Media Bias/Fact Check - Search and Learn the Bias of News Media

E-E-E comments on Jul 17, 2019:

There's also this: https://www.allsides.com/unbiased-balanced-news

Naomi replies on Jul 18, 2019:

Thanks anyway, E-E-E!

Media Bias/Fact Check - Search and Learn the Bias of News Media

RobBlair comments on Jul 17, 2019:

OK, as a Leftist Tears Tumbler toting imbiber of Daily Wire commentary, I decided to do due diligence on these "FACT CHECK" checkers. So step one go to right center bias. Shapiro is open about not voting for Trump so he does moderate a little. Nope. Go to Right Bias and look for "Daily ...

Naomi replies on Jul 18, 2019:

Agreed. The thing is, even well-established reputable media, like BBC, put their own spin on news after they obtained verified facts, i.e., truth. I believe that BBC was once truly impartial but it is no longer. Ah well, they've got to make their stories catchy and saleable, I guess. Looking on the funny side of it all, I enjoy the "I wasn't born yesterday, you idiot" moment. Lol

Statism vs. Socialism - Do You Know The Difference? [youtube.com]

Naomi comments on Jul 17, 2019:

Hello. Why not share this clip with other larger groups? I think it's important to know the difference.

Naomi replies on Jul 18, 2019:

I too think that it's a shame that we can no longer make general posts. I often make posts in the Libertarian Freethinkers group when I look for various views. There seem to be some members there who contribute decent/balanced views.

Media Bias/Fact Check - Search and Learn the Bias of News Media

E-E-E comments on Jul 17, 2019:

There's also this: https://www.allsides.com/unbiased-balanced-news

Naomi replies on Jul 17, 2019:

Hello. Thanks for this; I'll add it to my list. Is this site America-centric, or international?

Media Bias/Fact Check - Search and Learn the Bias of News Media

RobBlair comments on Jul 17, 2019:

OK, as a Leftist Tears Tumbler toting imbiber of Daily Wire commentary, I decided to do due diligence on these "FACT CHECK" checkers. So step one go to right center bias. Shapiro is open about not voting for Trump so he does moderate a little. Nope. Go to Right Bias and look for "Daily ...

Naomi replies on Jul 17, 2019:

Wow, you've got a lot to say! Lol Objectivity rather than subjectivity - that's important to me, plus I would like to be aware of the wording those media choose to use, if they use legitimate sources for their articles, etc., etc. And if I can find those things through media bias fact checkers, I'm happy. There are a few media bias checkers; I'm sure you can find one that is right for you.

BREAKING: New Google Document Leaked Describing Shapiro, Prager, as ‘nazis using the ...

acthenpens comments on Jun 26, 2019:

in the video they talk about how people have different concepts of fairness and I think that gets at the heart of the difference to the two side. To the right fairness is proportional to input where to the left fairness is equality. However anyone who has done group work in a class where others ...

Naomi replies on Jul 16, 2019:

Hello acthenpens, I've been thinking... You're right about whatever is run by the state, i.e., supported by tax payers, and therefore is available to those who contribute (tax payers) is an extension of the co-op principle, which is fair. But is it OK to simply say that one is not entitled to the service to which one doesn't contribute. For example, I have a neighbour who has always been a self-employed window cleaner, and that's the only thing he can do well. He's in his 60s and he has arthritis in his both knees, but he can't afford to retire. I very much doubt that he's ever paid tax because he earns so little, yet I know that he is not on any benefit; his pride goes against becoming a charity case. While he definitely needs medical attention for his knees, plus he is definitely not a freeloader, is it still unfair that he receives the medical treatment he needs free under the NHS? Of course, it is impossible to pinpoint who is a freeloader and who is not, but a communitarian part of me says that if I'm doing well with my life, I should be able to help others in my community. What do you think? Incidentally, I'm against grammar schools. It creates a two-tier system in my opinion. I think comprehensive schools should be brought back together with streaming. Mixed ability is a fancy idea where brighter ones are supposed to bring up less bright ones, but it has been proven time and time again that it has the opposite effect. I don't see anything wrong with bright ones being allowed to sit in the top class regardless of the background. I believe that children know who is bright and who is not among themselves anyway as well as being capable of accepting that as a fact. I've just realised that I sound like a leftist! I'm not always aware if I'm thinking in the left mode or in the right mode. I enjoy decent discussions like this. Thank you for the opportunity. x

“I love the outdoors. If I’m not indoors, that’s where you’ll find me”. (Bob Hope)

Naomi comments on Jul 16, 2019:

Hello. Wow, that's hot, no?! It makes news when it reaches 100F in England. Lol

Naomi replies on Jul 16, 2019:

True! 😂 🤣

Gut-wrenching dilemma - What would you have done if you were her?

Biosphere comments on Jul 15, 2019:

It's mostly comfortable people that raise awareness to this..the irony is halarious

Naomi replies on Jul 16, 2019:

Hello there. Not sure what you mean... Do you think this article (and I who posted it) is virtue-signaling?

"Victimhood is heavily rewarded in our society.

dgerts comments on Jul 15, 2019:

I feel like it comes down to self-esteem and personal responsibility. If one is a victim, their problems are someone else's fault and therefore they don't have to 1) feel inadequate, ashamed, guilty, etc; 2) take action to change the situation. To shirk victimhood means to take a large ...

Naomi replies on Jul 15, 2019:

Hello. You make a few good points. Wheter left or right, I think we are all guilty of victimising ourselves and rationalising victimhood because it is the easiest option, like you say it's easier to blame someone else rather than facing one's own responsibilities. The thing is, victimhood becomes an aggressive force when rationalised and politicised, and that's very problematic.

"Victimhood is heavily rewarded in our society.

PalmThis comments on Jul 14, 2019:

That's the way that the LEFT thinks. They're trying to divide us. If you don't agree with them, you're a bigot, racist fascist. The problem is... They'll even do it to their OWN party! Just ask Nancy Pelosi! If you're not FAR ENOUGH LEFT, or disagree with ANYTHING they say... You'll be labeled in ...

Naomi replies on Jul 15, 2019:

Wow, that's a big question, PalmThis! Lol I have reservations about climate change; the truth about it is yet to come out, plus it's politicised, which doesn't help. I'm all for looking after the environment in terms of litter-free streets, clean air, clean water, that sort of things. It's also not a bad thing to be aware of the ecosystem, as we're all part of it after all. But, I don't think people who advocate for not eating food imported by air or for eating 10 chickens instead of one cow in order to reduce Co2 have thought it through, which makes their arguments illogical in my opinion.

My new pup.

Oxfret comments on Jul 14, 2019:

Handsome dogo, and the kitty that loves him.

Naomi replies on Jul 14, 2019:

Shiny black ones. Cool.

Fireside Chat Ep.

Naomi comments on Jul 12, 2019:

Hello. This is slightly off the topic (sorry), but I was wondering... What will happen in America if someone, say aged 35, is diagnosed with cancer but is too poor to pay for any medical treatment including drugs that may be needed for the rest of his/her life? Thanks for your help.

Naomi replies on Jul 14, 2019:

Absolutely Wordmage.

Fireside Chat Ep.

Naomi comments on Jul 12, 2019:

Hello. This is slightly off the topic (sorry), but I was wondering... What will happen in America if someone, say aged 35, is diagnosed with cancer but is too poor to pay for any medical treatment including drugs that may be needed for the rest of his/her life? Thanks for your help.

Naomi replies on Jul 14, 2019:

Ah, that. I seem to remember that the American specialist also concluded that he couldn't have saved the baby, realising the seriousness of the condition... You're well informed. :)

"Victimhood is heavily rewarded in our society.

KeVince comments on Jul 14, 2019:

There are two types of psychopaths ones that are strong and can intimidate others and those who are weak. The weak align themselves with with those wishing to protect the disadvantaged, to get there way they simply tell the social Justice warrior that you have hurt them in some way. The useful idiot...

Naomi replies on Jul 14, 2019:

Hello. An interesting observation - thank you.

"Victimhood is heavily rewarded in our society.

DesireNoDesires comments on Jul 14, 2019:

Here's a debate I am currently "losing", which involves the victimhood rationalizations https://www.facebook.com/leroy.brenneman.7/posts/2411823002395274?c

Naomi replies on Jul 14, 2019:

@DesireNoDesires They're often full of rhetoric, do you notice? They indulge themselves in rhetoric, hence no pragmatic solutions... So much subjectivity and little objectivity in my opinion.

"Victimhood is heavily rewarded in our society.

AndrewInVail comments on Jul 14, 2019:

Interesting way to word it. I would say that there are far more bigots than I would like, but *much far fewer* than the leftists would have you believe.

Naomi replies on Jul 14, 2019:

@DesireNoDesires, @AndrewInVail Not sure about most leftists being bigots, but I do think that the two sides trying to understand each other's legitimate opinions is a good idea.

"Victimhood is heavily rewarded in our society.

DesireNoDesires comments on Jul 14, 2019:

Here's a debate I am currently "losing", which involves the victimhood rationalizations https://www.facebook.com/leroy.brenneman.7/posts/2411823002395274?c

Naomi replies on Jul 14, 2019:

Hello there. Victimhood rationalisation - typical, isn't it? A lot of ego on both sides (the girl and the man). Also, this mentality of filming the entire event... like you say, it's so insincere and fake. Plus, trying to rationalise something supposedly very personal like this on behalf of the completely stranger involved is arrogant and invasive in my opinion. Once, I criticised an illegal immigrant on FB who has lived in the UK for many many years without renewing her visa and has finally been caught by the immigration office, and I was immediately accused of lacking compassion by someone who knows nothing about me. Lol

"Victimhood is heavily rewarded in our society.

PalmThis comments on Jul 14, 2019:

That's the way that the LEFT thinks. They're trying to divide us. If you don't agree with them, you're a bigot, racist fascist. The problem is... They'll even do it to their OWN party! Just ask Nancy Pelosi! If you're not FAR ENOUGH LEFT, or disagree with ANYTHING they say... You'll be labeled in ...

Naomi replies on Jul 14, 2019:

I would like to be aware that those "illogical ones" exist at both extreme ends of the political spectrum. Whether they are far left or far right, I tend to call them all as ideologues. They're as bad as each other, no?

"Victimhood is heavily rewarded in our society.

PalmThis comments on Jul 14, 2019:

That's the way that the LEFT thinks. They're trying to divide us. If you don't agree with them, you're a bigot, racist fascist. The problem is... They'll even do it to their OWN party! Just ask Nancy Pelosi! If you're not FAR ENOUGH LEFT, or disagree with ANYTHING they say... You'll be labeled in ...

Naomi replies on Jul 14, 2019:

Hello there. The left eating the left - you're right. Do you remember what happened to Bret Weinstein at Evergreen University? And it is so easy for anyone, left or right, to "sleepwalk" into the radical left narrative. We could be playing their game without knowing... Insidious and toxic, wouldn't you say?

Creeping moral authoritarianism. Yuck!

GrahamK comments on Jul 13, 2019:

Hmm, not sure I would trust their impartiality.

Naomi replies on Jul 14, 2019:

Hello there. Enjoying the sunshine up there? Impartiality - exactly! In my opinion, the politicisation of the police is terribly wrong. Since I made this post, I've bee in touch with my MP. He took a great deal of sympathy and is now taking this up with the Police and Crime Commissioner. So, wait and see.