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Why isn't anyone talking about Abraham (Ibrahim) and Islam?

RobBlair comments on Aug 21, 2019:

Don't be a house lizard - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zp5URcDh3P0

Naomi replies on Aug 22, 2019:

Hello. I found a piece of information about the completion of Islam. I included in my latest comment. Scroll up or down to find it - only if you're interested.

Why isn't anyone talking about Abraham (Ibrahim) and Islam?

RegnadKcin comments on Aug 21, 2019:

Somewhere the development of Islam is documented. Don't know the source but I've read that in the early stages of Islam the Books of Moses were not included and its acceptance was very poor. There were more followers after the Books of Moses were adopted. Now I'm curious about God's promises to ...

Naomi replies on Aug 22, 2019:

Hello. I found a piece of information which is kind of related to what you are talking about. I included in my latest comment. Scroll up or down to find it - only if you're interested.

Why isn't anyone talking about Abraham (Ibrahim) and Islam?

David42 comments on Aug 21, 2019:

The Bible says in genesis that they will be trouble. It’s almost as if it was planned that way. Islam has been killing people and destroying lives, from the beginning. Mohammad was a war lord who used his cult to perpetuate his lust. It’s time the world said ENOUGH !

Naomi replies on Aug 22, 2019:

Hello Jeeper752. Thanks for the info. I'll check it out.

Why isn't anyone talking about Abraham (Ibrahim) and Islam?

RegnadKcin comments on Aug 21, 2019:

Somewhere the development of Islam is documented. Don't know the source but I've read that in the early stages of Islam the Books of Moses were not included and its acceptance was very poor. There were more followers after the Books of Moses were adopted. Now I'm curious about God's promises to ...

Naomi replies on Aug 21, 2019:

Hello. Thanks for your input. 'Somewhere the development of Islam is documented. Don't know the source but I've read that in the early stages of Islam' - That's interesting. I'll certainly try to find more about it. This is a wonderful learning platform for me. Thanks again. X

Why isn't anyone talking about Abraham (Ibrahim) and Islam?

MilesPurdue comments on Aug 21, 2019:

Naomi, I do like your question, I will say I don't read the Qu'ran but am puzzled how two religions can follow the laws of Moses and fight each other. If you have the time, you may look through the King James Bible, think the best translation of Aramaic and Hebrew. First fives books are the Books ...

Naomi replies on Aug 21, 2019:

@MilesPurdue My knowledge of the Bible is no match for yours - I grew up in a secular environment and I'm only beginning to take interest in religions. Incidentally, I found the King James Version of Holy Bible in PDF. I shall start reading bit by bit. Thanks again!

Why isn't anyone talking about Abraham (Ibrahim) and Islam?

MilesPurdue comments on Aug 21, 2019:

Naomi, I do like your question, I will say I don't read the Qu'ran but am puzzled how two religions can follow the laws of Moses and fight each other. If you have the time, you may look through the King James Bible, think the best translation of Aramaic and Hebrew. First fives books are the Books ...

Naomi replies on Aug 21, 2019:

Hello. Thanks for your kind words. I'll check the King James Bible out! '... am puzzled how two religions can follow the laws of Moses and fight each other.' Exactly! I found the following (written by someone called BS Foad, M.D.): Islamic values are the same as Christian values 1-Belief in God and in being accountable to God: That there is a Day of Judgment, Heaven & Hell 2-Be good to your families and neighbors 3-Establish prayer and give in charity and help the poor and needy 4-Apply your faith in the way you live your life with noble character and morals, get close to God and never despair of his mercy 5-Faith in God’s prophets & messengers and following their example And faith in God’s divine books as our constitution 6-Learn and improve and invite to God by our example How Islam has become so divisive has got to do with politics, hasn't it? And many people have become to hate Muslims as collective by default. It's not only in the West; I have a friend in India and she tells me that once upon a time people of all religions lived happily together.

Why isn't anyone talking about Abraham (Ibrahim) and Islam?

David42 comments on Aug 21, 2019:

The Bible says in genesis that they will be trouble. It’s almost as if it was planned that way. Islam has been killing people and destroying lives, from the beginning. Mohammad was a war lord who used his cult to perpetuate his lust. It’s time the world said ENOUGH !

Naomi replies on Aug 21, 2019:

Gosh, you're well-read, Aurelien, and thanks for your input. 'how those texts were exploited for very specific agendas,' I'm inclined to agree with that. Islam has certainly been shaped from both inside and outside to be divisive, and the mindset has been established for non-Muslims to hate the religion, generating the notion that all Muslims are bad. I know some people are trying to reform Islam and they agree that removing Hadiths the words of Muhammad would make a good start, if possible at all.

Why isn't anyone talking about Abraham (Ibrahim) and Islam?

David42 comments on Aug 21, 2019:

The Bible says in genesis that they will be trouble. It’s almost as if it was planned that way. Islam has been killing people and destroying lives, from the beginning. Mohammad was a war lord who used his cult to perpetuate his lust. It’s time the world said ENOUGH !

Naomi replies on Aug 21, 2019:

Hello. 'The Bible says in genesis that they will be trouble. It’s almost as if it was planned that way.' That's interesting. And do you know who planned it? Do you think there was already a kind of propaganda that generated hatred towards Muslims? Sorry to ask these stupid questions, but I'm kind of looking way, way back into the history of Islam to try to find how the religion became so problematic and divisive from inside and outside perspectives.

Why isn't anyone talking about Abraham (Ibrahim) and Islam?

RobBlair comments on Aug 21, 2019:

Don't be a house lizard - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zp5URcDh3P0

Naomi replies on Aug 21, 2019:

Hello. This is fascinating. Mistranslation and all that. Thank you!

Why isn't anyone talking about Abraham (Ibrahim) and Islam?

Aurelien comments on Aug 21, 2019:

I don't understand what you mean. Muslims perfectly recognise Abraham. As far as they are concerned, Muhammad is the 'seal of the Prophets'. They would even quote you the Bible to show you than Jesus supposedly announced his coming. It's the Christians who rejected Islam - Islam had no issue with ...

Naomi replies on Aug 21, 2019:

The Quran sums up the view of the Prophet Abraham among Muslims: "Who can be better in religion than one who submits his whole self to Allah, does good, and follows the way of Abraham the true in Faith? For Allah did take Abraham for a friend" (Quran 4:125). It sounds like Abraham was a much greater prophet than Muhammad, yet, I'm under the impression that Hadiths the words of Muhammad are cited a lot more often by his worshippers and haters alike. I was wondering why that is, if that makes any sense. Was that Muhammad himself who decided to use Islam as a political weapon (after he reached Medina)? I'm kind of looking way, way back into the history of Islam to try to find how the religion became so problematic and divisive from inside and outside perspectives.

Don't know if this is a serious problem in your countries.

DagnyTaggart comments on Aug 20, 2019:

I literally don’t know anything on this subject, so please enlighten me if I’m way off here. Bees are not the only creature that pollinates, so I’d say the meme is wrong that our food won’t get pollinated, because it will, and thus we aren’t going to die. Slight hyperbole, right? The ...

Naomi replies on Aug 21, 2019:

Hello. Thank you for your input. Much appreciate it. Memes often come with satirical and/or exaggerated expressions, so I don't normally take them literally. It says "Don't know if this is a serious problem in your countries... ", so if it isn't a problem where you live in the US, that's good. Meanwhile, three other members on this page who also live in the US acknowledge the problem. Your country is huge, so the severity of the problem is probably very different from area to area. Incidentally, I live in the UK and many species of bee are on the brink of extinction in parts of the UK – and some types have been lost entirely, so it is a serious problem in the UK. I read somewhere that climate change, habitat loss, pollution and disease are among the causes of bee extinction. In terms of ecosystems, I always understand that each species fits like a jigsaw puzzle piece in the ecosystem it belongs. I don't think it is the case that even if all bees are gone, we can still replace them with butterflies and others simply because they are all pollinators. In terms of economy, apparently the bee’s pollinating services are worth £690m a year to the UK economy. So, if all bees died out, it'll have an impact on the UK economy. If bee farms are doing well in the US, that is good news.

Don't know if this is a serious problem in your countries.

camerakid61 comments on Aug 20, 2019:

Some people here in the U.S. say it's becoming a problem, but the sale of honey hasn't slowed, nor have I heard of problems with pollenation.

Naomi replies on Aug 20, 2019:

Well, you live in a huuuge country; it varies from state to state, perhaps?

Don't know if this is a serious problem in your countries.

purdyday comments on Aug 20, 2019:

That was a big issue here in U.S. People held demonstrations all over the country against a mega corp called Monsanto. They were not only in with industrial farms, but also the chemical companies and hybridization - GMO seeds. Not sure you can find info on them now, they changed that name and ...

Naomi replies on Aug 20, 2019:

Hello. No GMO commercial growing is allowed in the UK - at the moment - Boris Johnson (Prime Minister) might change it...

Ooooh, a gotcha moment for China Daily?

govols comments on Aug 20, 2019:

What are the Hong Kong people protesting?

Naomi replies on Aug 20, 2019:

Ah, you noticed. I thought that was peculiar, too...

Ooooh, a gotcha moment for China Daily?

govols comments on Aug 20, 2019:

What are the Hong Kong people protesting?

Naomi replies on Aug 20, 2019:

This might help. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_RdnVtfZPY

Earth's inner core is doing something weird

timon_phocas comments on Aug 20, 2019:

Howdy @Naomi, Thanks for the interesting article.

Naomi replies on Aug 20, 2019:

Hello. Makes a good change from politics and bickering. :P

Don't know if this is a serious problem in your countries.

govols comments on Aug 20, 2019:

Yep, it's a problem, and we know about it, and we're doing something. I know several who are keeping bees, several who are suffering less sufferable pollinators they would otherwise exterminate. I hope the cause is figured out soon. Theories exist, but confidence seems low thus far...

Naomi replies on Aug 20, 2019:

Hello. Many people don't seem to understand ecosystems or simply don't care. Even some farmers want restrictions on certain pesticides lifted, which kill bees - as long as their crops are fine, they don't care about anything else - short-sighted... How can they be like this when they are the very people who work with nature? I don't get it. :(

Earth's inner core is doing something weird

camerakid61 comments on Aug 20, 2019:

According to scientists, the molten core is beginning to flip so that in a few thousand years, north will be south and vice-versa.

Naomi replies on Aug 20, 2019:

Hello. Shame we won't be around to witness it.

Earth's inner core is doing something weird

Facci comments on Aug 20, 2019:

Great topic! Thank you for the originality!

Naomi replies on Aug 20, 2019:

Hello, and thank you for sending me coins. X

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Naomi comments on Aug 20, 2019:

Hello. It's a shame that the word "progressive" refers to these horrible people. Bret Weinstein, for example, is progressive (he says so himself) but he is obviously not one of them.

Naomi replies on Aug 20, 2019:

Not so much about labels, but definitions of words matter to me.

This is community spirit, no?

MrSubtle comments on Aug 20, 2019:

There's so much wrong with this it's hard to know where to start. 1. Where's this hate for CEOs coming from? How is it somehow evil for someone to be the chief administrator of a company that produces the things that you like and find a good value for your money? Why not hate the vice president...

Naomi replies on Aug 20, 2019:

Hello. Thank you for your input. I understand that you're saying that locality is not all that important, and you make it clear why. I would argue that strong, sustainable local economy is important for the members of a community to facilitate themselves, e.g., adequate public transport services, schools, doctor surgeries, post offices, that sort of things. And in my simple mind, in order to keep local economy strong to support these services and facilities, money has to be spent within the community. No?

This is community spirit, no?

iThink comments on Aug 18, 2019:

the only flaw is that it will not work in favor of the "small business owner" - people not related to or otherwise somehow emotionally connected to the owner and his/her family will opt for the lower pricing of the local Wal-mart or whatever other "corporate giant" this person is trying to compete ...

Naomi replies on Aug 20, 2019:

Hello WilyRickWiles. Your homework will be to come up with a more effective message than the one I posted. 😜

This is community spirit, no?

iThink comments on Aug 18, 2019:

the only flaw is that it will not work in favor of the "small business owner" - people not related to or otherwise somehow emotionally connected to the owner and his/her family will opt for the lower pricing of the local Wal-mart or whatever other "corporate giant" this person is trying to compete ...

Naomi replies on Aug 20, 2019:

Your homework will be to come up with a less emotional, thus more practical message than the one I posted. Lol.

Oh, now they've mentioned it...

govols comments on Aug 19, 2019:

Really? They shut down and amusement ride over the shape?

Naomi replies on Aug 19, 2019:

I know. Say no more...

This is community spirit, no?

dmatic comments on Aug 18, 2019:

Not aware of any flaw...if the object, or goal, is community. When one treats others as they would like to be treated you get a world of kindness and compassion, and justice. The other model of "doing what's best for me", as in it's cheaper to buy from the big box stores...I get more for my ...

Naomi replies on Aug 18, 2019:

Hello george. That's a fair point.

This is community spirit, no?

GeeMac comments on Aug 18, 2019:

Buying local is a great idea because it keeps money in the community. Still, I can’t buy the smug, bumper sticker morality of the sign itself. It’s a great example of how to turn a good idea into something that divides, rather then inspires.

Naomi replies on Aug 18, 2019:

@GeeMac "The tone is very patronizing, which is a shame, because the idea is a great one." That's the thing... I have a tiny dilemma - I like a communitarian idea where everyone in the community cooperates to achieve something together. However, when community spirit is strong, it can create a little too much pressure on individuals. Community functions like a small government and too much control, including imposing a certain set of moral values, can come from its leader(s)...

This is community spirit, no?

GeeMac comments on Aug 18, 2019:

Buying local is a great idea because it keeps money in the community. Still, I can’t buy the smug, bumper sticker morality of the sign itself. It’s a great example of how to turn a good idea into something that divides, rather then inspires.

Naomi replies on Aug 18, 2019:

Hello. Do you think some people take this kind of sign as virtue-signaling?

An interesting photo circulated on FB... 1936 Olympics in Berlin, apparently.

Serg97 comments on Aug 18, 2019:

Check your history, FDR was all FOR SEGREGATION. And the DEMs backed it until the 1960's. It was the first Republican Pres. that went to war to stop slavery. A fact that is not taught in schools today!!

Naomi replies on Aug 18, 2019:

Thanks for your advice. I'm not familiar with this kind of detailed facts within American history. I didn't grow up in America. The world history lessons I received in school only covered superficial facts.

An interesting photo circulated on FB... 1936 Olympics in Berlin, apparently.

Serg97 comments on Aug 17, 2019:

Jesse Owens I believe. Ruined the Super Race idea!!!

Naomi replies on Aug 18, 2019:

Hello RobBlair. America's history surrounding racism is very dark and deep (plus, Owens achievements were politicised then and afterwards) - it's beyond my comprehension.

An interesting photo circulated on FB... 1936 Olympics in Berlin, apparently.

Serg97 comments on Aug 17, 2019:

Jesse Owens I believe. Ruined the Super Race idea!!!

Naomi replies on Aug 17, 2019:

Hello. So this is a genuine photo. Thank you! Japanese, American and German competed together..interesting. Apparently, Jesse Owens wasn't invited to the White House to be congratulated because he was black?. Complicated times, I guess...

An interesting photo circulated on FB... 1936 Olympics in Berlin, apparently.

Biosphere comments on Aug 17, 2019:

The guy on the right appears to be exercising military garrison protocol intended to assure proper distance between individuals before a particular formation is executed. Is that what's happening here, or is this another comical jab at the tired old white supremacy fad that the leftist liberals keep...

Naomi replies on Aug 17, 2019:

Hello. I believe this is a genuine historical photo.

‘The green movement has become hysterical’ -- Brendan O'Neill on Greta Thunberg - YouTube

DrN1 comments on Aug 17, 2019:

Brendan ex-marxist just because he sounds "logical" doesn't mean he's not the most hysterical contributor to this podcast....he's an arsehole.

Naomi replies on Aug 17, 2019:

@DrN1 Not sure... she talks over a lot. Looks like we have to agree to disagree on this occasion.

‘The green movement has become hysterical’ -- Brendan O'Neill on Greta Thunberg - YouTube

DrN1 comments on Aug 17, 2019:

Brendan ex-marxist just because he sounds "logical" doesn't mean he's not the most hysterical contributor to this podcast....he's an arsehole.

Naomi replies on Aug 17, 2019:

@DrN1 The video is not about climate change (I'm not a climate denier by the way), it is about the girl. And when you say "taking the piss out of a teenager", I always understood that O'Neill was being sympathetic towards Greta, saying that the green cult has pushed her into the position of its global leader, its child-like saviour, the messiah of their miserabilist political creed. I would say mean minded and trivial responses come from people like Aaron Banks and James Delingpole.

‘The green movement has become hysterical’ -- Brendan O'Neill on Greta Thunberg - YouTube

DrN1 comments on Aug 17, 2019:

Brendan ex-marxist just because he sounds "logical" doesn't mean he's not the most hysterical contributor to this podcast....he's an arsehole.

Naomi replies on Aug 17, 2019:

Hello. O'Neill may be an a-hole doesn't mean I disagree with every single thing he says though.

Ugly Carnivals: When Liberated France Was A Demonizing France

DrN1 comments on Aug 16, 2019:

Shame of war, humiliation of defeat, grief and loss, revenge,suffering and inflicting pain, triumphalism and sadism.

Naomi replies on Aug 16, 2019:

Hello. Only the leaders of losing countries are tried as war criminals; never the leaders of winning countries. Funny that...

‘The green movement has become hysterical’ -- Brendan O'Neill on Greta Thunberg - YouTube

RobBlair comments on Aug 16, 2019:

I could listen to Fiona all day. She says absurd things but I love the Irish lilt. I have no doubt that Ms. Thunberg will add context, intelligence and experience to our environmental discussion when she is sitting next to AOC. I think O'Neill is off his rocker defending Karl Marx. Stop ...

Naomi replies on Aug 16, 2019:

@RobBlair I fear that politicians and media will be all over her once she's got there...If I were her mother, I would protect her from all of them.

‘The green movement has become hysterical’ -- Brendan O'Neill on Greta Thunberg - YouTube

RobBlair comments on Aug 16, 2019:

I could listen to Fiona all day. She says absurd things but I love the Irish lilt. I have no doubt that Ms. Thunberg will add context, intelligence and experience to our environmental discussion when she is sitting next to AOC. I think O'Neill is off his rocker defending Karl Marx. Stop ...

Naomi replies on Aug 16, 2019:

Hello. I think O'Neill is spot on when he says Greta has been used as a shield to prevent debates on climate change. I'm hoping that once she'got there, she will be given opportunities to debate on climate change with other "teens who are climate sceptics". Not all youngsters are climate activists. They need to talk about their future among themselves - after all, it's theirs - as much as we, adults, are responsible for making sure that they will have a bright one.

You pansy-wansies...

KeVince comments on Aug 15, 2019:

I like the guy in background must be the proud dad of the dare devil biker.

Naomi replies on Aug 16, 2019:

Hello. Well observed. The man has no intention of stopping the kids. Probably, he used to do it when he was a boy.

So, Greta Thunberg is coming to you, American folks.

timon_phocas comments on Aug 15, 2019:

Is she coming on a sailboat? Will she wander through America like Johnny Appleseed; barefoot, wearing rags and a pot on her head? Will birds and small animals gather round when she sings? Will she part the Mississippi with a wave of her staff, and will barge traffic be really pissed off when they're...