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RobBlair comments on Apr 1, 2020:

Let this be a lesson for everyone. If all your friends and other people you talk to, agree with you, this could happen to you.

Naomi replies on Apr 1, 2020:

Hello. They're just so unbelievably arrogant and patronising!

Open mind.

SupraLibrix comments on Apr 1, 2020:

This is the right place. Facebook is like calling your girlfriend on speaker when your mom is in the room.

Naomi replies on Apr 1, 2020:

@Supra_Librix I don't fancy communicating with a system that mimic human intelligence.

does anyone get tired of the parading of the richest loosers we call an election campaign?

Naomi comments on Apr 1, 2020:

Hello. If you live in America, it's a bit difficult to avoid, I guess. I understand your sentiment, though.

Naomi replies on Apr 1, 2020:

Hello Supra_Librix. You ask big questions! 😂 The UK has no written constitution. https://about-britain.com/institutions/constitution.htm The BBC is no longer impartial. Tabloid press continue to politicise and sensationalise everything. The national press also have a tabloid-like trait nowadays IMO. The media try to be so influential that they don't let readers to form their own opinions. If anything, the media are the ones that constantly try to divide the nation. Yet, British society is less polarised over politics than, say, American society. I think I'm right in saying so. The current Prime Minister and the leader of the Tory Party (right) is Boris Johnson. He used to be described as a buffoon by the media a lot, but in the thick of the coronavirus crisis, he is showing his strengths and I can appreciate that he is trying his best for the nation. The leader of the Labour Party (left) is Jeremy Corbyn. He is about to step down as the leader because he lost at the general election. It is said that he is inspiring to many young people because he is an activist and ideologue. It is also said that because he is an ideologue, he lost the support of traditional Labour members. Nigel Farage may be described as a significantly different type of politician, I guess. He is said to be a populist. He provoked David Cameron, a former PM, to trigger a referendum over Brexit. David Cameron was confident that the nation would vote to remain in the EU but the majority voted to leave the EU. He subsequently resigned. Nigel Farage was a Member of European Parliament for many years but he's never been elected as a Member of UK Parliament. Among the MPs, there is Nicholas Soames, the grandson of the wartime leader Winston Churchill, Hilary Benn, the middle son of veteran Labour MP Tony Benn, Stephen Kinnock, the son of Neil Kinnock, the former Labour leader, etc.

Open mind.

SupraLibrix comments on Apr 1, 2020:

This is the right place. Facebook is like calling your girlfriend on speaker when your mom is in the room.

Naomi replies on Apr 1, 2020:

Hello. Are you really an AI?

A new alternative

Seriousreason comments on Mar 31, 2020:

If anyone can help with green salad stain remover. ? My underwear holds no chance of fighting of the Vegan menace. Skid marks are now emailing Greta , as they seem to take a life of their own. Until a lettuce stain remover is found. The neighbours goat consumes all undergarments . We could upset ...

Naomi replies on Mar 31, 2020:

It's only a stupid joke. Don't overthink it. 😂

Oh, bugger.

TimTuolomne comments on Mar 31, 2020:

Sorry to hear that Naomi. Hope you won’t mind: Prayers for your speedy recovery.

Naomi replies on Mar 31, 2020:

No, no, I'm fine, really! Touch wood. This is meant be a joke. 😂

A new alternative

Biosphere comments on Mar 31, 2020:

Now that's a "word salad"..I hear that really tough men have been heading down to Home Depot and Lowes and buying up all the sandpaper. Ouch!

Naomi replies on Mar 31, 2020:

Noooo!

From now on, no cabbage, no boiled eggs.

camerakid61 comments on Mar 31, 2020:

Makes me wonder, what happens when an astronaut farts while wearing a space suit? Is there some kind of release valve built into his suit, or does he just grin and bear it until he gets back to his spaceship?

Naomi replies on Mar 31, 2020:

Good point!

Follow the government advice anywhere, anytime.

camerakid61 comments on Mar 31, 2020:

You're gonna need a six foot penis and it better be wearing a condom!

Naomi replies on Mar 31, 2020:

How would you keep it in your pants, though? Don't tell me!

An implication of lockdown :(

Lt-JW comments on Mar 31, 2020:

Lockdown in India is absolute joke. Some 80% of working population don't have what we'd call a home, they live a nomadic life and often sleep on the floor of the factories they work at. Else living in over populated slums. How's lockdown down gonna help that 1.5 billion nation of abject poverty?...

Naomi replies on Mar 31, 2020:

Hello. I have friends in India. I visited India, and the degree of poverty, and the gulf between the rich and the poor is truly shocking.

Coronavirus: India’s fight against pandemic must take into account its class and caste divisions

Xtra comments on Mar 31, 2020:

The vision is still fresh of Indian workers making their way from their employment to the towns they live in. It looked like one massive mess. Social distancing -impossible. They are completely unprepared for disaster and these recommendations will help.

Naomi replies on Mar 31, 2020:

Hello. These workers are the poorest of the poor. They get rounded up and hosed down with a sanitizer - treated like animals. :( The caste system is deep rooted in India.

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Naomi comments on Mar 31, 2020:

What effect would such a headline have on people's minds? Where are the genuine journalists who understand their duty to serve society with high ethical standards? Are they all gone?

Naomi replies on Mar 31, 2020:

https://theconversation.com/coronavirus-is-a-huge-story-so-journalists-must-apply-the-highest-ethical-standards-in-how-they-tell-it-133347?fbclid=IwAR19Tk9U5uAKuelfTonGp4sHqm3fIypiWP0kJji2Xyk6E3L9kKQYqJQhHu4

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JVIP-WTPNN comments on Mar 31, 2020:

Really ??? Cool 😎 Lol I like Rice Krispies

Naomi replies on Mar 31, 2020:

Never realised that Rice Krispies has been around for such a long time.

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JVIP-WTPNN comments on Mar 31, 2020:

I’ve never heard it lol.

Naomi replies on Mar 31, 2020:

No have I. 😂

I like constructive actions.

Lt-JW comments on Mar 29, 2020:

This is the materialisation of the movie 'Contagion' Mat Damon 2011, don't know if you have watched it, but very spooky

Naomi replies on Mar 30, 2020:

@Serg97 You're welcome!!!!!!!!!

This is harsh. Is this a common occurrence in the US?

Edgework comments on Mar 30, 2020:

Unthinkable? Think again. Took me five seconds to find verification in the local press. https://amp.theguardian.com/society/2019/dec/10/thousands-of-patients-die-waiting-for-beds-in-hospitals-study https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1011821/10000-more-patients-die-each-year-on-waiting-lists/amp...

Naomi replies on Mar 30, 2020:

You're missing the point. According to the report I read, the teen was denied of treatment "because he didn't have health insurance". In the UK, they would NOT decide whether they should treat a sick person or not on the basis of whether they are insured or not.

This is harsh. Is this a common occurrence in the US?

RobBlair comments on Mar 30, 2020:

Consider a Brit with a cough walking into a private health clinic that specifically does not treat emergencies. The Brit will probably not pay for the service and there is an NHS hospital 5 blocks away that is already geared up to treat the cough. The clinic immediately says we can't help you here...

Naomi replies on Mar 30, 2020:

You're missing the point, Rob. According to the report I read, the teen was denied of treatment "because he didn't have health insurance". In the UK, they would NOT decide whether they should treat a sick person or not on the basis of whether they are insured or not. If you're really interested in the story, it won't take you a minute to find it. More than one media have reported this incident. But I can tell you now that you will come back and tell me that these media are left-leaning, and that will be the end of the story.

Our Authority Over The Bible

JoeySparks comments on Mar 29, 2020:

“Religion is based off the stability of the Bible“ I think a lot of Christians put themselves in this position but I also think misconceptions arise on both sides of the issue when we take this assertion. They both, in their own ways, fail to understand the context as to how the Bible ...

Naomi replies on Mar 29, 2020:

@JoeySparks The pope and his absolute authority over Churches. Thanks for your inputs. Much appreciated.

This is harsh. Is this a common occurrence in the US?

Xtra comments on Mar 29, 2020:

We will be reading about this again.

Naomi replies on Mar 29, 2020:

Fair enough. I don't have any further detail at the moment. The news arrived via a friend of mine on FB and I was genuinely shocked. So I thought I would ask American folks here.

This is harsh. Is this a common occurrence in the US?

TimTuolomne comments on Mar 29, 2020:

Every single Democrat candidate should be aware of Congress driving 276 insurance companies out of business by 1981 with the LRRA, causing insurance rates to quadruple. Some of us remember clearly. Today every candidate is blaming Trump, "Big Pharma" and insurance companies for what Democrats did, ...

Naomi replies on Mar 29, 2020:

That's where we think differently in the UK. Politics just doesn't come into it. Two years ago, a friend of mine came to visit us from India. He suddenly became very ill. He only had a travel insurance with two-week coverage. Regardless, a local hospital treated him including a surgical operation, intensive care, absolutely everything that was necessary in an attempt to save him. Unfortunately, a few weeks later he passed away in hospital. His daughter was grateful and agreed to pay all the medical cost in full.

Is this you? 😁😆

GaryWitt comments on Mar 29, 2020:

Suddenly xenophobia doesn’t seem so bad. As long as you call it “social distancing.”

Naomi replies on Mar 29, 2020:

You cynical so and so. 😆

Nice! US man holds up sign thanking hospital emergency staff for saving wife's life 🤗

BikerPetehall70 comments on Mar 28, 2020:

Little things make a huge difference sometimes

Naomi replies on Mar 29, 2020:

@BikerPetehall70 I'm fine - thanks for asking. I have a dog, so I go out with him for a long hike everyday. Everyone is pretty good with social distancing in my neighbourhood. I have a fairly big garden so I can enjoy sitting in the sun or doing a bit of gardening. I work from home anyway, so there is no financial impact. How about you?

I like constructive actions.

Lt-JW comments on Mar 29, 2020:

This is the materialisation of the movie 'Contagion' Mat Damon 2011, don't know if you have watched it, but very spooky

Naomi replies on Mar 29, 2020:

Hello. No I haven't, but I found the official trailer. Spooky indeed! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sYSyuuLk5g You're in one of the 'hot' spots. Stay safe!

😂😂😂 Boomers Can’t Learn, Millennials Are Lazy, and 6 Other Myths About the ...

govols comments on Mar 28, 2020:

I'm not a fan of the idea of the generational cohort. I just don't think it's useful. I have a wild idea that one would find sibling gap and position more useful lenses. Boomers born in 48 to parents born in 18 are going to be vastly different from boomers born in 48 to parents born in 32. Latchkey ...

Naomi replies on Mar 29, 2020:

Hello. We can't narrow generation gaps for the reasons you describe, but I would differentiate the generation gaps in the family and the generation gaps in the workplace;. I think that parents, children and siblings are in emotional relationships, while employers, employees and coworkers are in professional relationships.

Our Authority Over The Bible

JoeySparks comments on Mar 29, 2020:

“Religion is based off the stability of the Bible“ I think a lot of Christians put themselves in this position but I also think misconceptions arise on both sides of the issue when we take this assertion. They both, in their own ways, fail to understand the context as to how the Bible ...

Naomi replies on Mar 29, 2020:

Hello. I am agnostic in a sense that I don't accept or reject the idea of any religious belief. I think that religious belief is a very personal thing, and on that basis, there is nothing for me to judge. You rightly say that the Bible was developed by Christians, in other words by people. In my understanding, the Bible has been interpreted by different people in different ways, hence developing different denominations and sects. These denominations and sects are led by authoritative figures like bishops and priests. Because they are people of authorities, they each consider that their interpretations of the Bible are correct and they have power over their followers, hence creating religious and political conflicts among themselves and among the denominations. It's not so much about the authority of the Bible, but the authority over the Bible I have a problem with. And I would hold the same opinion about any organised religion.

😂😂😂 Boomers Can’t Learn, Millennials Are Lazy, and 6 Other Myths About the ...

Spetsnasty comments on Mar 28, 2020:

I went through similar as a young Person 45 years ago. Switching jobs to get better station, pay and tenure from an employer. Suffered a couple hard recessions. It’s harder for the young, just ask my kid, I have and it is. Life is harder and more expensive for what they can earn now and what I ...

Naomi replies on Mar 28, 2020:

Hello. I'm glad that you remember what it was like when you were young. Grown-ups often forget. I don't like calling students snowflakes, for example, because I was a rather sensitive girl myself when I was a teen. It's kinda part of growing up and learning to face the reality. You're right; times are harder than ever been before.

Nice! US man holds up sign thanking hospital emergency staff for saving wife's life 🤗

BikerPetehall70 comments on Mar 28, 2020:

Little things make a huge difference sometimes

Naomi replies on Mar 28, 2020:

Yes, definitely!

Many people are debating on whether people are more important than economy or economy is more ...

dmatic comments on Mar 28, 2020:

I don't know what "binary" means in the context of your question, other than either or, as in Should we sacrifice people, or the economy with our policies regarding the threat of coronavirus to both? An economy is what produces wealth, which is needed, or wanted, for people to live. Food, (a ...

Naomi replies on Mar 28, 2020:

@dmatic Yes, exactly. So, it's not the case of choosing economy over people or people over economy, i.e., a binary choice, is it? But some people are debating this way. It doesn't make sense because they are closely connected and they are both needed.

Many people are debating on whether people are more important than economy or economy is more ...

dmatic comments on Mar 28, 2020:

I don't know what "binary" means in the context of your question, other than either or, as in Should we sacrifice people, or the economy with our policies regarding the threat of coronavirus to both? An economy is what produces wealth, which is needed, or wanted, for people to live. Food, (a ...

Naomi replies on Mar 28, 2020:

Hello. And who sustains economy?

Does India deserve foreign aid when they can afford this kind of project...?

PalmThis comments on Jul 22, 2019:

My question would be more to the fact of, WHY are we giving them our money when they hate us? Let's take care of ourselves first!

Naomi replies on Mar 28, 2020:

@JimbobNE That's a very good point.

Does India deserve foreign aid when they can afford this kind of project...?

prasheel_nair comments on Mar 28, 2020:

Look at how people are justifying what America is doing? Well remember these are the very same citizens who have a president who looks at the solar eclipse through his naked eyes. And guess what he was not elected by the citizens of some other country. Also since you are saying at at time where ...

Naomi replies on Mar 28, 2020:

Umm... Is this a rant...? In any event, I'll have to wait someone who lives in America to come on to respond to your opinion. I don't live in the US, so...

Was the American Revolution a progressive or a conservative movement? What is your interpretation?

rway comments on Mar 26, 2020:

Hi Naomi, Progressive... for the times. Of course, times have changed. Those terms only have meaning relative to a particular context. e.g., If today's "Progressives" ever actually got everything they fantasize about, and (hypothetically) had no more desire to change anything... then they would ...

Naomi replies on Mar 28, 2020:

@rway I'll have to learn more about these terms and their definitions and, how they have changed (or have been changed) in different contexts. I'm glad that you have an objective understanding of each ideology rather than coming on with a polarised mind set. Thanks ever so much for sharing your extensive knowledge.

Was the American Revolution a progressive or a conservative movement? What is your interpretation?

rway comments on Mar 26, 2020:

Hi Naomi, Progressive... for the times. Of course, times have changed. Those terms only have meaning relative to a particular context. e.g., If today's "Progressives" ever actually got everything they fantasize about, and (hypothetically) had no more desire to change anything... then they would ...

Naomi replies on Mar 28, 2020:

@rway Ah. We may be talking about "liberal" in different terms. :) https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-10658070

Was the American Revolution a progressive or a conservative movement? What is your interpretation?

rway comments on Mar 26, 2020:

Hi Naomi, Progressive... for the times. Of course, times have changed. Those terms only have meaning relative to a particular context. e.g., If today's "Progressives" ever actually got everything they fantasize about, and (hypothetically) had no more desire to change anything... then they would ...

Naomi replies on Mar 28, 2020:

@rway I don't know if you're familiar with Bret Weinstein. He is a progressive (he says so himself) who is liked by conservatives. That tells me a lot about what is the right kind of progressive and what is not, similar to your explanation. I'm getting the idea that progressives and conservatives are both liberal at heart...

So, you know..... LIFE.

Naomi comments on Mar 27, 2020:

Or no symptoms at all - a tricky virus!

Naomi replies on Mar 28, 2020:

@DonProvolone We'll have to prepare ourselves for the consequences.

Was the American Revolution a progressive or a conservative movement? What is your interpretation?

rway comments on Mar 26, 2020:

Hi Naomi, Progressive... for the times. Of course, times have changed. Those terms only have meaning relative to a particular context. e.g., If today's "Progressives" ever actually got everything they fantasize about, and (hypothetically) had no more desire to change anything... then they would ...

Naomi replies on Mar 27, 2020:

Hello. Sorry for the late response. Thank you for your input. I think that the first two paragraphs of your comment explain really well about conservatism and progressivism in the context of the American Revolution. Understanding in context is important. Thank you for this.

How's your quarantine going? 😂 🤣

govols comments on Mar 26, 2020:

I love that you've been finding these and spreading them, but I'm one of the "essential." I'm working daily and not from home, so the only thing missing is the community of the pubs.

Naomi replies on Mar 27, 2020:

@govols The only part I visited was Hawaii - many. many years ago. It is a huuuge country and I assume that even culture varies slightly from state to state. It is kind of impossible to talk about America in general terms.

Was the American Revolution a progressive or a conservative movement? What is your interpretation?

govols comments on Mar 25, 2020:

Naomi, can you offer definitions for your terms conservative and progressive?

Naomi replies on Mar 26, 2020:

@govols I found the following meanings of "liberalism" (apart from the usual political philosophy that promotes civil liberty and individual rights): Willingness to respect or accept behaviour or opinions different from one's own; openness to new ideas. The holding of political views that are socially progressive and promote social welfare. e.g., ‘Brooklyn prides itself on being a great bastion of liberalism and diversity’ Theology: The belief that many traditional beliefs are dispensable, invalidated by modern thought, or liable to change. Especially the last one still sounds applicable to how the American Revolution happened. Traditional, conserved ideas are dispensable and invalidated by modern, radical ideas; when the radical ideas are implemented, it causes chaos but they're eventually accepted and become norm and, conserved. It's a kind of transition from progressive (as in favouring change or innovation) to conservative (as in maintaining what has now become norm), no? So, one could say that the American Revolution was a progressive movement. It's confusing!

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TimTuolomne comments on Mar 26, 2020:

I approve of praising the medical and care professions, but not by the BBC, which always confuses the issues with politics. The BBC is the UK version of the New York Times, which is strictly a propaganda rag, suitable only as toilet paper.

Naomi replies on Mar 26, 2020:

"Approve" you say...

When washing two hands thoroughly is hard enough...

govols comments on Mar 26, 2020:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1di2Gn3ovM

Naomi replies on Mar 26, 2020:

Were you watching her hands or her boobs? 🤣

How's your quarantine going? 😂 🤣

govols comments on Mar 26, 2020:

I love that you've been finding these and spreading them, but I'm one of the "essential." I'm working daily and not from home, so the only thing missing is the community of the pubs.

Naomi replies on Mar 26, 2020:

@govols I've just heard the news that the Covid-19 death toll has crossed 1,000 in the U.S. Stay safe (and sane 😂) for yourself and your family.

Was the American Revolution a progressive or a conservative movement? What is your interpretation?

RobBlair comments on Mar 26, 2020:

@Naomi - I 2nd @timon_phocas Always look to your questions to provoke my mind into motion. It is a fantastic talent you have! Labels and grouping people is a shortcut for thinking. I'm glad we have progressed on slavery, racial segregation, women's suffrage, etc... Not everything should be ...

Naomi replies on Mar 26, 2020:

@TimTuolomne "Generally those who do that are leftists..." Uh-oh, you can't say that. That's generalising, grouping, most of all labelling! 😂

How's your quarantine going? 😂 🤣

govols comments on Mar 26, 2020:

I love that you've been finding these and spreading them, but I'm one of the "essential." I'm working daily and not from home, so the only thing missing is the community of the pubs.

Naomi replies on Mar 26, 2020:

Are you a so-called key worker? Stay safe.

An interesting read - Coronavirus: what makes some people act selfishly while others are more ...

TimTuolomne comments on Mar 25, 2020:

Responsibility is something we choose. It cannot be assigned as collectivists feel should happen. There can be a social contract in which a boss, for example, "assigns" responsibility. The contract is already in effect, so the employee has agreed in advance to accept the direction. In society ...

Naomi replies on Mar 26, 2020:

Hello ScottforKing. I followed JP for a long time. I watched his lectures about right, entitlement, responsibility, consequence, that sort of things, and I did understand his points very well. I left when his political bent became clear to me. I tend to avoid political polarisation. :)

An interesting read - Coronavirus: what makes some people act selfishly while others are more ...

TimTuolomne comments on Mar 25, 2020:

Responsibility is something we choose. It cannot be assigned as collectivists feel should happen. There can be a social contract in which a boss, for example, "assigns" responsibility. The contract is already in effect, so the employee has agreed in advance to accept the direction. In society ...

Naomi replies on Mar 26, 2020:

@TimTuolomne My understanding of socialism is different from yours. It is a political and economic theory; state ownership of the means of production and workers' self-management of enterprises. I tend to think community ethics separately. Beside, even IF I have a bit of socialist in me, that's not a crime, is it? 😁 😂 I rest my case.

Was the American Revolution a progressive or a conservative movement? What is your interpretation?

timon_phocas comments on Mar 26, 2020:

Howdy @Naomi, I always appreciate it when you open an intellectual jar of worms. The American Revolution was as complicated as any in history. It has been described variously as an economic, ideological, religious, cultural and racial conflict. It was all of these, depending on where you ...

Naomi replies on Mar 26, 2020:

@timon_phocas Am I right in thinking that there were Americans who sided with the British and fought against the revolution?

Was the American Revolution a progressive or a conservative movement? What is your interpretation?

N0DD comments on Mar 26, 2020:

Revolution throws over the Power of the King, but Kings always return, created by the need of people to be subject and sovereign.

Naomi replies on Mar 26, 2020:

Hello. That's philosophical, but I think I know what you mean.

Was the American Revolution a progressive or a conservative movement? What is your interpretation?

RobBlair comments on Mar 26, 2020:

@Naomi - I 2nd @timon_phocas Always look to your questions to provoke my mind into motion. It is a fantastic talent you have! Labels and grouping people is a shortcut for thinking. I'm glad we have progressed on slavery, racial segregation, women's suffrage, etc... Not everything should be ...

Naomi replies on Mar 26, 2020:

Brains, I need more brains! "Not everything should be conserved." Agreed 100%.

Coronavirus: Louisiana pastor again ignores social distancing, hosts 1,800 worshippers Sunday

RobBlair comments on Mar 26, 2020:

That's a tough one. Getting sick is not the big deal. Using up hospital services and exposing others is. As for understanding the risk of infection, it seems higher than the flu. What do we close down during the flu season? (We do close some retirement homes). The big problem is that we ...

Naomi replies on Mar 26, 2020:

@RobBlair I was only joking! 😂

Coronavirus: Louisiana pastor again ignores social distancing, hosts 1,800 worshippers Sunday

RobBlair comments on Mar 26, 2020:

That's a tough one. Getting sick is not the big deal. Using up hospital services and exposing others is. As for understanding the risk of infection, it seems higher than the flu. What do we close down during the flu season? (We do close some retirement homes). The big problem is that we ...

Naomi replies on Mar 26, 2020:

Hello. Do you think evolution is in action? 😁😁😁

Was the American Revolution a progressive or a conservative movement? What is your interpretation?

timon_phocas comments on Mar 26, 2020:

Howdy @Naomi, I always appreciate it when you open an intellectual jar of worms. The American Revolution was as complicated as any in history. It has been described variously as an economic, ideological, religious, cultural and racial conflict. It was all of these, depending on where you ...

Naomi replies on Mar 26, 2020:

Hello. "The UK's mercantilist policies..." This is largely about the British East India Company, no? Tea dumping in Boston harbour was one of the causes of the American Revolution. And there was a rise against the British monarch, King George III. I didn't know anything about the fight between settlers and Native American that was going on at the same time during the American Revolution. All in all, it sounds like the whole movement was very radical. I wish I had more brains to understand all this - frustrating!

Was the American Revolution a progressive or a conservative movement? What is your interpretation?

govols comments on Mar 25, 2020:

Naomi, can you offer definitions for your terms conservative and progressive?

Naomi replies on Mar 26, 2020:

@govols I'm beginning to get the idea that conservatism and progressivism are kind of interchangeable at the fundamental level? Or at least transitional? Have you read the summary of the American Revolution by @timon_phocas? The American Revolution was about many things.

Was the American Revolution a progressive or a conservative movement? What is your interpretation?

SpikeTalon comments on Mar 26, 2020:

@Naomi I'm not a member in this group.

Naomi replies on Mar 26, 2020:

Oops, sorry!

Was the American Revolution a progressive or a conservative movement? What is your interpretation?

govols comments on Mar 25, 2020:

Naomi, can you offer definitions for your terms conservative and progressive?

Naomi replies on Mar 26, 2020:

@govols Like I said, this is someone else's view, not my own, but I find it very interesting - well thought out. I'm no match for you; I haven't got enough knowledge to join the debate. @Josf-Kelley and @TimTuolomne seem very well-informed. :) I shall enjoy the conversation as a bystander.

American Exceptionalism: Delusion and Illusion

johnlondon comments on Mar 25, 2020:

Same old leftist Gibberish....We have done nothing that other peoples and countries would not have done to us given the chance if they had the technology. This NOW is very important as it pertains to CHINA. The slave issue is total leftist baloney. The word Slav denoted Slave in the Slovik ...

Naomi replies on Mar 26, 2020:

Hello. As an outsider, it is interesting to observe how quickly American people determine whether they're left or right. It is said that American society is very polarised over politics and it seems proven so especially on social media like this site. Yet, the American people I actually met are quite opposite. In any event, thanks for your insight, and since your country is huuuge, I would imagine that some people may have different views from yours purely because of different social fabrics from state to state.

Finland has just closed their borders. No one will be crossing the Finnish line.

Tati comments on Mar 25, 2020:

Stawppp😭😭🤣

Naomi replies on Mar 26, 2020:

Hello, and welcome to the community.

Was the American Revolution a progressive or a conservative movement? What is your interpretation?

govols comments on Mar 25, 2020:

Naomi, can you offer definitions for your terms conservative and progressive?

Naomi replies on Mar 25, 2020:

@govols Not sure if I can respond to your request appropriately. I was intrigued by someone's view on the American Revolution as follows: ***** Conservative: Holding to traditional attitudes and values and cautious about change or innovation, typically in relation to politics or religion. Progressive: favouring or implementing social reforms or new liberal ideas. Wouldn't you say the American Revolution implemented social reforms and new liberal ideas? After fifty to a hundred years ideas, innovations, values and attitudes that were once Progressive become traditional… conservatives then abandon all caution in adopting them… and after a while even claim them for their own! “Make America great again” is an attempt to go backwards to a past that never was.. while the rest of the world is moving forward and leaving us behind. Conservatives either want things to remain the same or go back to the way they once were. Did you know that when Teddy Roosevelt ran for President in 1912, he ran as a member of the Progressive Party? That his platform included such Progressive things as campaign finance reform, the vote for women, an 8 hour work day and social insurance? How many conservatives would approve of that platform even today? Yet conservatives still want to claim Theodore Roosevelt as one of theirs. Confederate President Jefferson Davis said that the Confederacy was not revolutionary… they just wanted to keep things the way they were. It was the North that wanted to change everything... It was Progressive to want to end slavery. During the American Revolution.. if you were holding onto your traditional attitudes and values… and were cautious about change or innovation… You would be yelling at those damn Rebels… “Long live the King!” Sorry! I'm afraid you would be siding with the British. ***

Was the American Revolution a progressive or a conservative movement? What is your interpretation?

govols comments on Mar 25, 2020:

Naomi, can you offer definitions for your terms conservative and progressive?

Naomi replies on Mar 25, 2020:

Hello. Conservative ; Holding to traditional attitudes and values and cautious about change or innovation, typically in relation to politics or religion. Progressive ; favouring or implementing social reforms or new liberal ideas. These are the definitions I picked up in relation to the American Revolution.

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TimTuolomne comments on Mar 25, 2020:

Responsibility is something we choose. It cannot be assigned as collectivists feel should happen. There can be a social contract in which a boss, for example, "assigns" responsibility. The contract is already in effect, so the employee has agreed in advance to accept the direction. In society ...

Naomi replies on Mar 25, 2020:

@TimTuolomne I ignore that bit. I'm aware that The Conversation is a tad left-leaning.

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maxmaccc comments on Mar 25, 2020:

Maybe he thinks that praying will help even though it never, ever has before.

Naomi replies on Mar 25, 2020:

In this day and age... sigh! Welcome to the community btw. :)

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TimTuolomne comments on Mar 25, 2020:

Responsibility is something we choose. It cannot be assigned as collectivists feel should happen. There can be a social contract in which a boss, for example, "assigns" responsibility. The contract is already in effect, so the employee has agreed in advance to accept the direction. In society ...

Naomi replies on Mar 25, 2020:

@TimTuolomne Exactly - socialism doesn't come into it. You're the one who mentioned socialism! 😂

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TimTuolomne comments on Mar 25, 2020:

Responsibility is something we choose. It cannot be assigned as collectivists feel should happen. There can be a social contract in which a boss, for example, "assigns" responsibility. The contract is already in effect, so the employee has agreed in advance to accept the direction. In society ...

Naomi replies on Mar 25, 2020:

@TimTuolomne "In the blitz the non-socialist healthcare system handled 50,000 injuries. Today under a socialist healthcare system they are overwhelmed at 2000." what is your information source? In any event, perhaps you're confusing socialism with communitarianism, or even simpler, community spirit... It is ironic that COVID-19 is uniting individuals and the communities to which they belong in the UK. They've started communicating with each other better and looking after each other better. Supermarkets have set hours specifically for the elderly and medical staff who came off their shifts to shop in a relaxed manner. Hotels are offering rooms absolutely free for the homeless for protection, and medical staff who wish to save time and energy on travelling back and forth between their homes and workplaces. Restaurants are offering free food for key workers like carers. This is community spirit and not much to do with socialism which is a political and economic theory.

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warminster100 comments on Mar 25, 2020:

Jesus?

Naomi replies on Mar 25, 2020:

Sorry, don't mean to be rude. Charming, though. :)

Does India deserve foreign aid when they can afford this kind of project...?

prasheel_nair comments on Mar 25, 2020:

Let's just say that it is not completely logical to say that. Does not mean that since a country can afford something it cannot take financial aid from other countries for the same. For instance even when a person could afford to do something, he need not have the money with him then, so he opts to...

Naomi replies on Mar 25, 2020:

Hello. I take your point. I think that hitting the right balance is important. Because your country needs to establish a better welfare system, education system, infrastructure, etc. doesn't mean that no money should be injected in for scientific and medical research at the same time. I have friends in Mumbai, and they tell me how corrupt the Indian government is. Is there anyway you can tell if the Indian government allocates foreign aid to different sectors fairly for the people who really need it in India, and not lining the pockets of greedy, corrupt politicians? There is a huge gulf between the rich and the poor in your country. I visited Mumbai once and it was quite a sight to see that slums were concentrated among high-rise buildings. Welcome to the community, by the way. :)

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TimTuolomne comments on Mar 25, 2020:

Responsibility is something we choose. It cannot be assigned as collectivists feel should happen. There can be a social contract in which a boss, for example, "assigns" responsibility. The contract is already in effect, so the employee has agreed in advance to accept the direction. In society ...

Naomi replies on Mar 25, 2020:

Hello. If "social contract" is defined as "an implicit agreement among the members of a society to cooperate for social benefits, for example by sacrificing some individual freedom for state protection", I'm afraid that it is needed right now in the thick of COVID-19 crisis in the UK.

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warminster100 comments on Mar 24, 2020:

If they had been closer, I would have worshiped with them! Our God reigns! Leadership of our church succumbed to secular demands even after I begged them to allow those who wished to meet, be allowed to do so, but they forbid any group meetings in the church. I am not afraid of the virus and I am ...

Naomi replies on Mar 25, 2020:

Hello CodeBuster. Spanish flu claimed some 50 million lives. OK. it was more than 100 years ago, and we have better technology, facilities and medicines now, but what hasn't changed is the fact that viruses like H1N1 and SARS are airborne. They spread through the air. You don't need to be kissed or hugged in order to become infected. Airborne viruses linger for a longer period of time than those spread by droplets and can also be spread in air conditioning and ventilation systems. They enter our bodies through the eyes, nose or mouth. With COVID-19, the incubation time varies roughly from 2 to 14 days, plus, you may not even have clear symptoms when you become contagious. Wearing a mask and gloves certainly help but does not give you 100% protection. Moreover, there are people who revel and ignore guidelines like social-distancing. Those people are not gonna bother with wearing masks and gloves either. They continue to go out and congregate at public spaces. I was condemning those who are putting others at risk by behaving irresponsibly.

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warminster100 comments on Mar 24, 2020:

If they had been closer, I would have worshiped with them! Our God reigns! Leadership of our church succumbed to secular demands even after I begged them to allow those who wished to meet, be allowed to do so, but they forbid any group meetings in the church. I am not afraid of the virus and I am ...

Naomi replies on Mar 25, 2020:

@warminster100 I would mention 1918 Pandemic (H1N1 virus), commonly known as Spanish Flu, to anyone who can't get their heads around to the seriousness of COVID-19. https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/1918-pandemic-h1n1.html And this is what everyone should understand as to how COVID-19 is spreading right now.

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warminster100 comments on Mar 24, 2020:

If they had been closer, I would have worshiped with them! Our God reigns! Leadership of our church succumbed to secular demands even after I begged them to allow those who wished to meet, be allowed to do so, but they forbid any group meetings in the church. I am not afraid of the virus and I am ...

Naomi replies on Mar 25, 2020:

Hello. But to be honest (without being disrespectful), it's not about you, it's more about other people not to mention your family members. You may not be afraid to die of the virus, but how about others to whom you may be passing the virus? Aren't you being irresponsible for your loved ones? Stay at home, stay safe, not only for yourself but for your loved ones. I beg you.

What do you fear more.

Xtra comments on Mar 24, 2020:

I see more opportunity than I feel fear. I am retired and in a high-risk group and I'm thinking about starting a business.

Naomi replies on Mar 24, 2020:

@Xtra You mean home care services?

What do you fear more.

govols comments on Mar 24, 2020:

I'm afraid nothing will be significantly different once the fallout settles.

Naomi replies on Mar 24, 2020:

Hello. Do you think many people may be finding the advantage of working from home?

What do you fear more.

Xtra comments on Mar 24, 2020:

I see more opportunity than I feel fear. I am retired and in a high-risk group and I'm thinking about starting a business.

Naomi replies on Mar 24, 2020:

Hello. What kind of business? Sounds exciting.

Share with your friends and families.

angelo comments on Mar 23, 2020:

That's what Singapore and South Korea have ENFORCED their people to do, and they have the lowest cases of infection as compared to the lax EU, USA, Australia and the Middle East, whose despot leaders are telling their people that it's a US or Israeli conspiracy.

Naomi replies on Mar 24, 2020:

@angelo Evolution is in action. 😂

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1patriot comments on Mar 23, 2020:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Naomi replies on Mar 23, 2020:

@1patriot MSM are really going down, aren't they? Even the BBC is said to be biased nowadays.

US coronavirus cases surpass 35,000, now the third-highest infected nation in the world

1patriot comments on Mar 23, 2020:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Naomi replies on Mar 23, 2020:

Hello. So, you believe that Fox News is still a reliable source.

US coronavirus cases surpass 35,000, now the third-highest infected nation in the world

Xtra comments on Mar 23, 2020:

I'm still evaluating, but I've noticed a shift too. Perhaps they're trying to live up to their mantra of fair and balanced? It's particularly bad afternoons and weekends.

Naomi replies on Mar 23, 2020:

Hello. No longer President Trump's favourite, it seems.

Share with your friends and families.

angelo comments on Mar 23, 2020:

That's what Singapore and South Korea have ENFORCED their people to do, and they have the lowest cases of infection as compared to the lax EU, USA, Australia and the Middle East, whose despot leaders are telling their people that it's a US or Israeli conspiracy.

Naomi replies on Mar 23, 2020:

Hello. In my opinion, it's not the time for conspiracy theories or petty partisanship. Idiots continue to ignore social-distancing and congregate in public spaces. Some say "I'm not gonna be deprived of individual liberty." or something along those lines. Liberty still comes with responsibilities and consequences. Those idiots really drive me mad - ugh!

Has anybody played around with Mencius Moldbug?

Naomi comments on Mar 19, 2020:

Hello. I found the following description of Moldbug. He sounds like a right-wing extremist...? *An American programmer and blogger. His blog, Unqualified Reservations (2007–13) became the basis of the small but instructive “neoreactionary” movement. With its origins in programmer culture ...

Naomi replies on Mar 23, 2020:

@govols Yes, I'm still watching those videos. Back and forth though as I get bogged down now and then. Some parts are hard to understand. But yes, I can see what you mean about Moldbug kind of debunking progressiveness.

Has anybody played around with Mencius Moldbug?

Naomi comments on Mar 19, 2020:

Hello. I found the following description of Moldbug. He sounds like a right-wing extremist...? *An American programmer and blogger. His blog, Unqualified Reservations (2007–13) became the basis of the small but instructive “neoreactionary” movement. With its origins in programmer culture ...

Naomi replies on Mar 22, 2020:

@govols Zigzag.

Time for a fashion change.

Xtra comments on Mar 22, 2020:

It's difficult to understand how a man could invent something like that

Naomi replies on Mar 22, 2020:

Good point!

Not so clever now, Wally, eh?

Lt-JW comments on Mar 20, 2020:

Dumb millennials are still gathering together in pubs, these idiots will force Boris' hand to bring in the army and marshal law in London

Naomi replies on Mar 21, 2020:

Now pubs and restaurants are all shut!

Not so clever now, Wally, eh?

Biosphere comments on Mar 20, 2020:

I erased my comment and wrote this instead.

Naomi replies on Mar 21, 2020:

Hello. What was it that you erased? Cuuurious! 😂 🤣

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govols comments on Mar 20, 2020:

Naomi, I really wish you wouldn't be so down on humanity. The truth is we're all animals and some of us are people. That has been the truth since we first came to consciousness. Every single one of us exists within a limited society and a limited environment, and we all base our understanding of the...

Naomi replies on Mar 20, 2020:

Thank you.

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Jeeper752 comments on Mar 20, 2020:

In light of the fact that we each are meeting our needs - we are alive, after all, he is correct on the "needs" end of things. Critical, undeniable, survival level needs, anyway. Every day, I see something that I "need" in one context or another. Yet, because it is not at the survival level, ...

Naomi replies on Mar 20, 2020:

"Don't lose sleep over the context for the quote in your original post." Thanks Jeeper752!

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Jeeper752 comments on Mar 20, 2020:

In light of the fact that we each are meeting our needs - we are alive, after all, he is correct on the "needs" end of things. Critical, undeniable, survival level needs, anyway. Every day, I see something that I "need" in one context or another. Yet, because it is not at the survival level, ...

Naomi replies on Mar 20, 2020:

Hello. That's why I want to know in what context Gandhi said the above. Quotes can be a little ambiguous without context.

Not so clever now, Wally, eh?

Lt-JW comments on Mar 20, 2020:

Dumb millennials are still gathering together in pubs, these idiots will force Boris' hand to bring in the army and marshal law in London

Naomi replies on Mar 20, 2020:

Hello. Yeah, I heard that. Some adults are also adamant, saying that they're gonna carry on as normal, i.e. ignoring all the advice and instructions... Some people - sigh!

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Header comments on Mar 19, 2020:

Exactly

Naomi replies on Mar 20, 2020:

@Header Unless you have strong evidence that China actually created COVID-19, you cannot say it is Chinese. And it is wrong that the left play the racist card on the adjective "Chinese". It is silly to think that a virus belongs to a race or nationality. And, no, COVID-19 was not bioengineered. https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2020/03/17/covid-19-coronavirus-did-not-come-from-a-lab-study-shows-natural-origins/#6dd79c6a3728 Anyway, had fun conversing with you. Stay safe and sane. Lol

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Header comments on Mar 19, 2020:

Exactly

Naomi replies on Mar 20, 2020:

@N0DD It's actually silly to think that Covid-19 is Chinese because it started in China. Viruses don't belong to any race or nationality.

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Header comments on Mar 19, 2020:

Exactly

Naomi replies on Mar 20, 2020:

@TimTuolomne Glad to know you're level-headed. :)

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Header comments on Mar 19, 2020:

Exactly

Naomi replies on Mar 20, 2020:

@Header And why do you "choose" to call the virus "Chinese virus" instead of coronavirus or Covid-19? Say it is correct that Democrats are playing the racist card on the adjective "Chinese", aren't you giving them more ammunition by choosing to say "Chinese virus" yourself? Additionally, I always have a problem with the "it's just a word" argument. Word matters. That is why the Bible matters, Shakespeare matters, the Constitution matters, and so on so forth. Words carry not only meanings but effects that play on people's minds, good or bad, in certain contexts. Ignoring that and to say they are just words is nonsensical to me.

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Header comments on Mar 19, 2020:

Exactly

Naomi replies on Mar 19, 2020:

@TimTuolomne To say that the virus spread from China, and therefore it is Chinese is not racists, and that I agree with, but why use term like "Chinese virus", "Wuhan virus" or "Kung Flu" (this one is funny, I must admit) instead of its proper name? Those who "choose" to use these terms surely know the effect they carry and how it plays on peoples' minds. It's politicised by both the left and the right. They're as bad as each other IMO.

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Header comments on Mar 19, 2020:

Exactly

Naomi replies on Mar 19, 2020:

@N0DD, @TimTuolomne, @Header Hello. I may be overthinking this (because the post is meant to be a joke, right?). Still... So, say a new virus spread from one of the filthy homeless encampments in California into the world, and if other world leaders start calling it "Californian virus" or "American virus" or "Orange virus" instead of whatever it's proper name is, President Trump and American people should be fine with that, because they're just words, no? Or would they be offended?

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SpikeTalon comments on Mar 19, 2020:

Free market capitalism and greed are two different things though...

Naomi replies on Mar 19, 2020:

@SpikeTalon True. Lol

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SpikeTalon comments on Mar 19, 2020:

Free market capitalism and greed are two different things though...

Naomi replies on Mar 19, 2020:

@SpikeTalon Yet they still operate in the free market.

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SpikeTalon comments on Mar 19, 2020:

Free market capitalism and greed are two different things though...

Naomi replies on Mar 19, 2020:

Hello. Depending on how you define greed, I guess. Some might say that pharmaceutical monopolization is rooted in greed.

Has anybody played around with Mencius Moldbug?

Naomi comments on Mar 19, 2020:

Hello. I found the following description of Moldbug. He sounds like a right-wing extremist...? *An American programmer and blogger. His blog, Unqualified Reservations (2007–13) became the basis of the small but instructive “neoreactionary” movement. With its origins in programmer culture ...

Naomi replies on Mar 19, 2020:

@govols Well, I'm not Catholic. I can tell you that. Lol

Has anybody played around with Mencius Moldbug?

Naomi comments on Mar 19, 2020:

Hello. I found the following description of Moldbug. He sounds like a right-wing extremist...? *An American programmer and blogger. His blog, Unqualified Reservations (2007–13) became the basis of the small but instructive “neoreactionary” movement. With its origins in programmer culture ...

Naomi replies on Mar 19, 2020:

@govols I've started reading some of his work now. https://www.unqualified-reservations.org/2008/04/open-letter-to-open-minded-progressives/

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TimTuolomne comments on Mar 18, 2020:

That is political correctness, and we should avoid that here. But remember the criminal mentality of hoarders and avoid them from now on.

Naomi replies on Mar 19, 2020:

@JVIP-WTPNN Sorry to be slow. Duh!!!

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TimTuolomne comments on Mar 18, 2020:

That is political correctness, and we should avoid that here. But remember the criminal mentality of hoarders and avoid them from now on.

Naomi replies on Mar 19, 2020:

@JVIP-WTPNN Oh I get it! You mean 666! 😂 🤣

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TimTuolomne comments on Mar 18, 2020:

That is political correctness, and we should avoid that here. But remember the criminal mentality of hoarders and avoid them from now on.

Naomi replies on Mar 18, 2020:

Hello JVIP-WTPNN. Is that a conspiracy theory or something? You keep saying "the mark". I fail to relate the India's measure to keep the infected home to testing it in NY.

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Jurecki comments on Mar 16, 2020:

How do the UK populous deal with high anxiety?

Naomi replies on Mar 17, 2020:

@Jurecki I think that the ability to see the funny side of a crisis is a virtue as well as a strength. I see more and more funny memes and jokes about the coronavirus on social media.