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Milo has his issues, but he is right in this statement.

ramzpaul 8 June 20
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I don't know ... I see his logic. but the same logic could mean forcing Singapore to stay part of Malaysia. To agree that the PRC should force HK back into its system.

I think abandoning all cities would be a grave mistake. But some cities are ideologically and/or demographically too far gone to be reclaimed.

Maybe I'm wrong. I'd like to ask Milo - and you, @ramzpaul - how can Seattle and Portland be taken back?

AMRX Level 5 June 21, 2020
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What we are seeing today is exactly what took place during the Spanish Civil war. Only in our case we have no other country that is going to bail us out.

RamzFan Level 6 June 21, 2020
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Why work for decades to pay off that Seattle condo? It goes without saying this whole thing completely throughs out property law.

Our society is based on law and rules. If you could artificially remove all notions of law and reinstate the hunter gathers pre civilization mindset. Without law it would be impossible to have a city let alone a national identity. It took many many thousands of years to figure out how-to live-in harmony in cities. Without the rule of law, the max size of your village would be about 150 as is shown by the archaeological record.

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Not to say he's perfect or anything, but if you say it because of the whole teenage sex with a priest thing, allow me to share my gay (but never abused) perspective: puberty-->involuntary erection-->experimentation-->manly sexual desire born+Daddy issues, I would have totally done as many priests as I possibly could by age 13. Seriously? I don't understand if it's different for straight men, but for us, it just like that and I see no reason to suppress the sexual desire of a gay male teenager. And I don't even like teens, I'm into daddy types because of the daddy issues. I just... It just doesn't make any sense to me for gay males.

I understand it's different when girls are involve, and Im certainly not advocating for any change in any legislation. Just sharing my opinion from my personal experience. I so could have used an older male influence during my formative years as both my parents neglected me and really delayed my development, especially as a male, and that's cost me being disadvantaged in life. Still feel like I'm a child in a grown up body most of the time for some reason. Not sure if it's related. Does anyone feel differently as a child as opposed as whatever being an adult feels like?

A1fredo Level 8 June 21, 2020

I had just the opposite experience, my Dad, all man, survived the Depression, Combat in WW II, and was a logger!!!!! I was expected to act and work like a man at age 12, that is when I learned to handle an ax and a chainsaw!!!!! AND, there is NO question of of fatherly love!!!!!!

@Serg97 That is real awesome, man. Glad to hear there are people who care about their children still. That's beautiful.

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