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Options for Whites.

I am not white, but since the majority here are white and are interested in white identity, I thought I would post something relevant to them. I will give my opinion of the various options for whites.

The RamZPual Option - This is to encourage white/European identity within the current political context. This option is guaranteed to fail. Politics is completely useless and will be increasingly dominated by the depraved. No identity of any kind can be sustained without a strong religion behind it, so white identity will fail. Whites will simply become degenerates like the rest of modern culture.

The Varg Option - Varg Vikernes is my favorite white nationalist. He understands the importance of religion and supports paganism for whites. He rejects politics and lives according to his beliefs. My opinion of this option is, well, maybe. I don't know enough about paganism to judge it, but I know that paganism has always lost to monotheism historically, so that makes me skeptical. There is also a question of how broad an appeal paganism can have given that most whites are Christian. The fact that very few people follow the Varg option is a concern.

The Mennonite Option - Conservative Mennonites maintain traditional Christianity without giving up all technology as the Amish do. They are non-racist and welcome anyone to join their church, yet they are the most purely white group that I have ever seen. What explains this paradox? The answer is that their religion is optimized for white character traits, and so while anyone can join them, only whites will fit well. They are growing an exponential rate and thrive in rural areas, even where the majority of the country is non-white. So what is the problem? The biggest problem is their insistence on non-violence in a world that will become increasing violent. So I don't know what will happen to them. Will they be slaughtered or will they give up non-violence? I don't know.

The Russian Orthodox Option - Like most of Christianity, Orthodoxy in the West is hopelessly cucked. But with the support of the government in Russia, the Russian Orthodox Church has a chance. Russia itself doesn't seem to be degenerating in the same way as the West is. So this option is to move Russia and become active in the Orthodox Church. Unfortunately I haven't visited Russia, so I can't really evaluate this option.

The Muslim Option - Islam is by far the most serious challenge to modern western depravity. Islam cannot be judged the actions of average Muslims who aren't very religious. Religious Muslims have essentially the same values that medieval Christians did. This option really requires its own post to explain, but just consider how Christianity, a middle-eastern religion, saved European culture from the collapse of the Roman Empire. Islam could play the same role in the modern collapsing West. This would require whites to join Islam and customize it to fit European culture. Islam is quite tolerant and would have no problem with White Muslims who want to maintain a white identity. I personally think this is the best option. The main problem with this option is that most whites are too closed-minded to fairly consider it.

fschmidt 6 June 12

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Just to be clear, I do not support an identity solely on being White. I am a nationalist. Which means I believe people are happiest when they can live in a country that supports their values. I don't care if Drag Queen Story Hour is mostly White, I don't want to live in a country where that degeneracy is tolerated.

Race is important. Because race tends to help shape values. But focusing exclusively on race is a mistake. This is one of the reasons that I have always rejected White nationalism. A nation is made up of a people who share common bonds. And, yes, race can be one of the factors, but not the only factor. I would rather hang out with a Michelle Malkin that some random meth head WHite Antifa type.

nah that isn't what nationalism means and don't do this gay shit for any other race

And the shared values would mean 90 to 95 percent White anyway.

Help me understand this distinction you have between Nationalism and White Nationalism. It doesn't seem meaningful to me, presuming you still keep race a high priority. My perception is most white nationalists agree with your conclusions on shared values, Malkin and Meth Antifa. So while white nationalism is the pursuit of sovereignty and self-determination for all white peoples who so desire it, different white populations will have distinct cultures and values, and thus turn to subsidiarity. Race alone is not enough to force a pan-European state. I have never understood this as contradictory to the white identity or white nationalism of thoughtful people. That said, I understand desires to distance from toxic labels, particularly if you're a public figure looking to remain effective.

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None of these are realistic options. I have no idea what will happen. Whites in the US are divided. Half are with the minorities and communists (funny most minorities are with the communists, but that's how it is). The other half are at least somewhat race aware and willing to defend their race. There is a minority of non-whites that are with the pro-white, anti-communist half of the whites. But it's a pretty small minority. So you have this 2-pronged phenomenon. One prong is anti-white (and half the whites are on board with it) and the other prong is communist. So there is this weird thing going on where race is intertwined with communist/anti-communist orientation. Communist/Socialist whites are also self-hating whites. Lots of the pro-white whites are not religious so religion has nothing to do with this. The question is, how can we break apart? There is no obvious dividing line. I think whites who support communism/socialism are defective. They have psychological problems and they can't thrive in a meritocracy so they embrace this ideology where govt will take care of them. So we are better off without them. But I just don't see how the sides will line up in any kind of civil conflict. And I don't see how it can stay together with this level of disagreement about how it should be. Maybe it will work itself out. I don't know.

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Interesting post. The longer I'm involved with dissident politics, the more I think we should be focused on a culture / societal victory so we can publicly hold these views without social ostracism. I don't want my children to have their lives ruined for thought crime. That's the first and most important step. A path toward more long term goals will then reveal itself.

You cannot do this within the paradigm of America. Only a new nation, mostly white at first, and ever increasingly white can allow this. The answer is splitting up the country. Faster, please.

@Afterthought yeah but how do we get there if we can't talk about it and stay employable?

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Islam will be a hard sell in North America to whites at least anytime soon. Now to African blacks in America? Yes I can see it gaining some strength but even there the modern black culture is so far gone it would take something cataclysmic to bring it about. Like food shortages and the end of the soft Gangsta Rapper culture where the consequences of their degeneracy is not punished.
As the white culture. Conservative Christianity works best.
Led by men. Men who are not afraid to fight nor use a gun and then repent later.
We used to have some of those men around
We don’t have as many anymore.
Thus our problems.

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Islam has a horrible track record of building societies that no sensible American would want to live in.

America has had too successful a history to completely abandon its traditions, although another rupture like the Revolutionary War may occur.

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Best option is for Whites to return to Biblical Christianity. The rest will then become clear. Whites’ greatest achievements came when they were most devout. Since the weakening of faith since the 1960s it’s all been downhill. I disagree that Islam is the answer since it is non-creative, cultic & with dubious origins (like Mormonism). Mohammed, like Joseph Smith, was obviously a pervert chancer but with armies that allowed him to impose his will. Just one small sliver of Christian Europe - Elizabethan England, say - has produced more of value to humanity than 1,500 years of Islam. Why? The inspiration of Jesus Christ, Son of God.

This isn't going to happen. The heart of Christianity's power, the claim to supernatural access to truth, has long been vanquished.

I could easily argue that the unwillingness of white Christians to see reality is why we are where we are. Best just to let sleeping dogs lie and fight white genocide.

@fschmidt Bible-based, such as that of the Boer settlers of South Africa or Oliver Cromwell.

Early Islam? What benefits did it provide to humanity? Where's their Faraday? Shakespeare? Beethoven? Islam has not even produced a Heinlein or a Playford. Saxon England was culturally superior to early Islam.

@Afterthought Remember that Christianity has been greatly subverted throughout the West. Look at Pope Francis or Joel Osteen. Does Christ perform miracles in people's lives? Absolutely! Most conversions in the Islamic world do not happen because of missionary efforts, but because Muslims had dreams/visions of Christ and sought Him out. Also note that great Christian rulers like King Alfred and Charles Martel were as keen on converting the pagans/Muslims as defeating them militarily. They understood the spiritual battle.

@fschmidt Any branch of Christianity that stands on the Word of God. The reason the Catholics, Lutherans, Anglicans etc. have become so weak is because they have abandoned the Bible in order to conform to the world's relativism.

Thanks for the tip on Ibn al-Hatham. I will read up! Although a cursory glance shows him to be part of Islam's "Golden Age" (around 00 A.D., when Baghdad was the capital of the world) rather than "early Islam" (which I think of as Mohammed and the first Caliphs).

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Focusing on “whiteness” is racist. The whole narrative of white vs black is a woke-leftist falsehood meant to whip up outrage to achieve progressive ends.

I don’t know why you assume people here are interested in white identity. I’m not. And I find racist assumptions about others reprehensible.

GeeMac Level 8 June 12, 2020

The majority of us here probably came over from Twitter for the exact reason of discussing ways to best embrace whiteness. If you think otherwise, you are not even reading the posts by the person who created the group.

Race blindness and woke leftism support the same power structure which yields replacement migration in white countries. Positive white identity is antithetical to the system. It's a totally different concept than woke white, which is all about guilt and subservience to other groups.

@GeeMac I agree. Anyone of any race that has American Values is my future buddy, no matter what color they are. All this is really about culture more than race. That race moves along cultural lines is one thing. But #walkaway and #blexit prove it can change pretty fast.

This article is a pretty good example of what I mean:

[dailywire.com]

@curvycom that’s a great article and it’s exactly why I made the comment I did. Blacks were also defending their Mom and Pop businesses from Antifa, protecting isolated police officers, and even non-black protesters. Black people are not the problem, because most of them are no different from anyone else.

The problem is the stereotype created by the media of the blacks as athletes, thugs or drug dealers. They exist, but are outnumbered by regular people who want to make a living and raise their families in peace.

The media profits off black misery, and woke progressives exploit it to drive their agenda. Please don’t fall into the trap of black vs white. It’s a lie.

@GeeMac AMEN! especially to your last two sentences.!!!

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