Trump and his wife are partying with Epstein and the same woman in the photo with Clinton, who is accused of human trafficking. It seems to be a sin for Clinton to hang with these people, but okay for Trump and his wife to party with them.

@KCSantiago At least the Trumps don't look as happy as the rest of them!
But , you are right, sleep with dogs and you get fleas. Also, the dogs can lead you to the really BIG RATS!!!
Someone once said, "it is best to know your enemies, personally"!!!!
I learned this to be true, working under cover!!!

@Leroy_Dumonde

If the word Republican was created to mean something specific, such as someone who works to benefit the public as a whole, then that is the original meaning of the word, the actual meaning, the true meaning, the genuine meaning, and not the counterfeit, false, misleading, wolf in sheep's clothing meaning.

If the Majority of wolves in sheep's clothing use the word republican to hide their malevolence behind a benevolent cloak, they may now Rule, as in Majority Rules, the meaning of the original word, turning the original meaning into a new, false, counterfeit meaning.

That does not change the fact that the original meaning was created so as to convey an original meaning, and it is instructive to those who want to know how deception works when the facts are exposed as to why the original meaning was replaced by the counterfeit meaning.

Also, just because the Majority says something, like the Sun is cold, or the moon is made of cheese, does not mean that people have to accept the Majority Rules.

Originally there was one party called the republican democrats @Josf-Kelley but it split on ideological lines And US citizens have been divided ever since

@BikerPetehall70

The name Federalist Party was an original con game perpetrated by warmongers, central banking frauds, aristocrats, tories, and slave consumers, they were FINO (federalist in name only), and as soon as their lies and extortive threats got them into power the actual Federation went under the newly created Nation-State Corporate Legal Fiction, and those treasonous criminals then subsidized African slavery, created and enforced a Central Bank to siphon off every calorie of blood, sweat, and tears that could be stolen from everyone in America. In response to the Fake Federalist Party crimes, which included the Alien and Sedition Acts, a new party was created: The Democratic Republican Party which included Thomas Jefferson and the former Nationalists (fake federalist) James Madison. Those two published the Virginia and Kentucky Resolutions.

Kentucky Resolution - Alien and Sedition Acts
RESOLUTIONS IN GENERAL ASSEMBLY
Approved December 3rd, 1799.

"That if those who administer the general government be permitted to transgress the limits fixed by that compact, by a total disregard to the special delegations of power therein contained, annihilation of the state governments, and the erection upon their ruins, of a general consolidated government, will be the inevitable consequence: That the principle and construction contended for by sundry of the state legislatures, that the general government is the exclusive judge of the extent of the powers delegated to it, stop nothing short of despotism; since the discretion of those who adminster the government, and not the constitution, would be the measure of their powers: That the several states who formed that instrument, being sovereign and independent, have the unquestionable right to judge of its infraction; and that a nullification, by those sovereignties, of all unauthorized acts done under colour of that instrument, is the rightful remedy:"

Virginia Resolution - Alien and Sedition Acts
Agreed to by the Senate, December 24, 1798.

"That this Assembly doth explicitly and peremptorily declare, that it views the powers of the federal government, as resulting from the compact, to which the states are parties; as limited by the plain sense and intention of the instrument constituting the compact; as no further valid that they are authorized by the grants enumerated in that compact; and that in case of a deliberate, palpable, and dangerous exercise of other powers, not granted by the said compact, the states who are parties thereto, have the right, and are in duty bound, to interpose for arresting the progress of the evil, and for maintaining within their respective limits, the authorities, rights and liberties appertaining to them."

Many actual Federalists (not just in name only) were falsely called Anti-Federalists, and they made it very clear to everyone who cared to listen that the move from a Federal Union to a National Corporation was a move from free people in liberty to slaves in despotism.

Debate in Virginia Ratifying Convention
1788 Elliot 3:89, 430--36, 439--42
[6 June]

George Mason:
"Among the enumerated powers, Congress are to lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts, and excises, and to pay the debts, and to provide for the general welfare and common defence; and by that clause (so often called the sweeping clause) they are to make all laws necessary to execute those laws. Now, suppose oppressions should arise under this government, and any writer should dare to stand forth, and expose to the community at large the abuses of those powers; could not Congress, under the idea of providing for the general welfare, and under their own construction, say that this was destroying the general peace, encouraging sedition, and poisoning the minds of the people? And could they not, in order to provide against this, lay a dangerous restriction On the press? Might they not even bring the trial of this restriction within the ten miles square, when there is no prohibition against it? Might they not thus destroy the trial by jury?"

After the take-over by the treasonous criminal FINOS (Federalist in name only), there were many people blowing the whistle despite the risks to their lives, liberty, and reputations at the hands of the criminals in power.

To the citizens of the United States by Thomas Paine
November 15, 1802

"But a faction, acting in disguise, was rising in America; they had lost sight of first principles. They were beginning to contemplate government as a profitable monopoly, and the people as hereditary property. It is, therefore, no wonder that the "Rights of Man" was attacked by that faction, and its author continually abused. But let them go on; give them rope enough and they will put an end to their own insignificance. There is too much common sense and independence in America to be long the dupe of any faction, foreign or domestic.

"But, in the midst of the freedom we enjoy, the licentiousness of the papers called Federal (and I know not why they are called so, for they are in their principles anti-federal and despotic), is a dishonor to the character of the country, and an injury to its reputation and importance abroad. They represent the whole people of America as destitute of public principle and private manners."

That was the beginning of that letter, and at the End of that letter Thomas Paine leaves no doubt as to the identity of one of the culprits:

"As many thousands who were minors are grown up to manhood since the name of Federalist began, it became necessary, for their information, to go back and show the origin of the name, which is now no longer what it originally was; but it was the more necessary to do this, in order to bring forward, in the open face of day, the apostasy of those who first called themselves Federalists.
To them it served as a cloak for treason, a mask for tyranny. Scarcely were they placed in the seat of power and office, than federalism was to be destroyed, and the representative system of government, the pride and glory of America, and the palladium of her liberties, was to be over- thrown and abolished. The next generation was not to be free. The son was to bend his neck beneath the father's foot, and live, deprived of his rights, under hereditary control.
Among the men of this apostate description, is to be ranked the ex-President John Adams. It has been the political career of this man to begin with hypocrisy, proceed with arrogance, and finish in contempt. May such be the fate of all such characters."

Good to know you know your history @Josf-Kelley I'm English and understand the basics of it better than a lot of your countrymen, but then history is one of my interests

@BikerPetehall70

I just recently started reading Conceived in Liberty by Murray Rothbard and I think it is worth reading for people who are interested in history.

Example:

"The next year, Captain Giles Brent, one of the leading planters of the North Neck, hauled the chief of the Potomac Indians, Wahanganoche, into court on the false charges of high treason and murder. And even though Wahangonoche was acquitted and his false accusers forced to pay him an indemnity for the wrongs suffered, the Assembly arrogantly proceeded to require the Potomac and other norther tribes to furnish as hostages a number of Indian children, to be enslaved and brought up by whites."

A familiar theme is a government created and maintained for the profits of the few at the expense of the many, and it invariably involves monopolization of economic, political, spiritual, and military power.

A group of slave owners stating that all men are equal@Josf-Kelley

@Leroy_Dumonde Which is the problem. That is all "republican" means any more. It does not signify an actual ideology but will accept any one willing to put the R by their name and pay their party fees. When Hillary was pushed aside by the democrats for O-bomb-a I was saying if she really wanted full party backing and to win all she had to do was switch her political party affiliation. If she had ditched the democrats and join the GOP I have no doubt they would have gladly run her as a candidate at some point. Wouldn't surprise me if she won either, and she really would not have to change any of her political stances.

If he banned Epstein, why?

@KCSantiago in 1992 he threw him out of all his properties, possibly he found him out, or he tried to get some advantage over him like he did so many others ...

@RCGibb So any evidence Trump reported the guy's activities? I have not seen anything along those lines.

@KCSantiago with all the efforts made to hide his activities, who knows?