Yup. That is why I'm not for women voting rights or men voting rights. Because they tell you nothing of the individual, they are collectivist ideologies of the identiterians.

People forget that back in Athenian Democracy, not everyone got to vote, only those that were prevent to have been invested in the nation, so when they vote they don't vote for self interest and against the society.

Foreigners, slaves and women were not allowed to vote, and only men who were over 18, served in military and had property. Which way something around 10% of men I think.

People forget that a) America was not founded as democracy, but as republic, b) no political parties and c) very few people were allowed to vote, understanding the Athenian model.

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Timeline of voting rights in the United States

1789 - The Constitution of the United States grants the states the power to set voting requirements. Generally, states limited this right to property-owning or tax-paying white males (about 6% of the population).

However, some states allowed also Black males to vote, and New Jersey also included unmarried and widowed women, regardless of color. Since married women were not allowed to own property, they could not meet the property qualifications. and georgia removes property requirement for voting.

[en.wikipedia.org]

When you allow anyone to vote, men or women, with no qualifications, its the beginning of the end.

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“The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.... A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine.” ― Thomas Jefferson

“A vote is like a rifle; its usefulness depends upon the character of the user.” ― Theodore Roosevelt, the 26th President of the United States of America, from 1901 to 1909

"Remember one thing about democracy. We can have anything we want and at the same time, we always end up with exactly what we deserve." ― Edward Albee

"Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve." - George Bernard Shaw, Irish dramatist & socialist (1856 - 1950)

"You have to remember one thing about the will of the people: it wasn't that long ago that we were swept away by the Macarena.” ― Jon Stewart

"Popularity should be no scale for the election of politicians. If it would depend on popularity, Donald Duck and The Muppets would take seats in senate." ― Orson Welles

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P.S.

And to women who complain about voting rights. Well, men had to respect the draft and go in combat to put their lives on the line for "democracy" and in exchange had right to vote.

Someone simply asked online, ok ladies, we reinstate the draft and declare war, and women get to vote too.

The overall panic in women, was hilarious to watch. off course they don't want that cost / benefit scenario.

And if they did say yes I'll go to combat if you give me right to vote, than you slap them over the head and send them back into the kitchen for being dumb as a stump. Only a country that wants to lose a war sends women to combat, because women are not made for combat. And any moron that complains can look at trans farse in women's sports for evidence and than shut up.

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So no morons and no free loaders get to vote.

“Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'” ― Isaac Asimov

"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." ― Winston Churchill (British Orator, Author and Prime Minister during World War II. 1874-1965)

If you want to understand democracy, spend less time in the library with Plato, and more time in the buses with people. ― Simeon Strunsky

People sitting on bench at bus stop in Los Angeles California