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Some truth about the war in ukraine!

Here is a thought I have. Just noodle this one! China and Russia are all chummy and lovey dovey. What if the grand plan is this. Russia keeps up the war with ukraine. The US and other countries are running low on munitions. When we can no longer defend ourselves because we sent all our stuff to unkraine, China says, OK the time is now to attack America!!!!!!!!!!!!! We don't have the munitions to defend our own country! China senfs another balloon over with an EMP device and take out all our communications and electronics!!!!!!!!!!!! AMERICA WILL BE A SITTING DUCK AND WE HAD BETTER LEARN CHINESE!!!!!!!!!!!

samtilley 7 Feb 28
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Russia and China have been friendenemies for a very long time.  It is similar to the relationship that Turkey has with NATO, a matter of convenience.  China, like Western Europe, no doubt looks at Russia as a cow to milk.  Putin unlike the West isn't stupid enough to get too dependent on China or trust them.  Putin also isn't stupid enough to not have known the geo political ramifications of invading Ukraine.  He has been preparing for it by building a network of trading partners including India, an enemy of China because of proximity.  

The Globalists are idiots.  They have allowed themselves to be dependent on China.  China is the most nationalistic country in the world at the moment and has a form of nationalism tied to race.  They want no part of the Globalists insanity of infinitely malleable humans.  I can think of no other country in history that resembles the Nazis more than China does today.  The Globalists made the same mistake with Hitler.  They assumed if they appeared non threatening and continued to trade with Germany that Hitler would see no reason to carry out his plans of world domination.  It may actually work to some degree with China.  If China doesn't feel threatened it may take Taiwan and stop military aggression.   The difference is that China already dominates manufacturing and owns the West.  Why invade something you already own.   The Globalist strategy is the direct opposite of MAD in that mutually assured destruction is now made as defenseless.

I would certainly like to avoid WWIII.  The Globalists have a lot invested in their theory that you can conquer through interdependent trade networks.  Russia was the most important hold out because it wants to maintain its independence.  It is more their enemy than China.  I actually hope their strategy works.

Keep in mind that Trump never intended to stop trade with China.  A crippled China is probably more dangerous than the one we have now.  The difference between his policies and those of the Globalists is that he understood the intangible importance of respect.  It is something central to the eastern ethos.  What is often called saving face.  The Chinese will never respect the degenerates that run Globalism.  And the globalists respect no one and nothing.  They are the kind of people that have no gratitude or respect for anything or any one.  They are foolish materialists in a world where abstract reality defines civilization.  They couldn't understand that Hitler was a "spiritualist" despite his strong denial of that.  He was an artist and almost effeminate in his sensitivities.  He saw himself as the "mother" of the German race to be reborn through him.  While he denounced cultism the religion of nature and occultism was always part of the Nazi party.  Everyone not German genetically a predator that threatens his newborn infant German race. In a way Chinese nationalism is very similar.  It shares the genetic basis for world domination and its understanding of genetics as "spiritual" as scientific.  Trump is not a naturalist and probably wouldn't understand it if you explained it to him.  The closest he has ever come to natural philosophy was probably classes he took that he had little interest in.  What he understands is the abstract reality that makes civilization possible.  The Globalist understands that about as well as Trump understands their philosophical origins.

If it was not for nuclear weapons I would lean towards forgetting about Russia and get prepared to stop China before it gets any stronger as should have been done with Hitler.  Unfortunately the Globalist plan which we are unavoidably committed to by history means we have to deal with Russia as a barrier to that plan.  The idea is to weaken Russia so it cannot be a player in geopolitics.  Russia is a spoiler in their plans.  Even if we are committed to their plans for historic reasons I would prefer to have Trump back because he seems more competent than the people at the EU and the Globalists in general.  Despite being an egotist he isn't emotionally committed to their egotistical sense of righteousness concerning their place in history.  As dirty harry put it "a man has to know his limitations".  The globalists simply make too many mistakes that their hubris doesn't allow them to correct.  They are elitists and elitists are always dangerous.  Trump is populist which by definition makes him an anti elitist.  He isn't embedded in a dystopian intellectual paradigm.

wolfhnd Level 8 Feb 28, 2023
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A not implausible scenario. The issues the US and western democratic nations face are all manufactured issues, Climate change, Putin's war, mass migration, Racism, rising crime rates, drug overdoses, sexual orientation/gender dysphoria, pandemics, right-wing extremism, misinformation, disinformation and whatever else they can think up.

As David Horowitz said, "The issues are not the issue. The issue is the revolution."

Your plausible scenario would be deemed a conspiracy theory though.

"You just have to flood the public square with enough raw sewage; you just
have to raise enough questions; enough dirt; plant enough conspiracy theorizing
that citizens no longer know what to believe. Once they lose trust in their
leaders, the mainstream media and political institutions; in each other; in the
possibility of truth - the game's won."

  • Barack Hussein Obama. Address at Stanford University, April 21, 2022.

I looked into Obama's speech writer a fairly obscure person named Jon Favreau

[wsb.com]

Nothing interesting there. However if you go back to when Obama was a Senator he was not very will spoken. Obama's speech against "misinformation" is widely quoted and is well written. What I'm interested in is why anyone would have wanted to help Obama?

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Russian spy speaking.

The Duran: Losing Bakhmut, losing Donbass

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Yes, with Barney Fife running our foreign policy, it might be an ideal time for China to attack, if their Navy were built up in time.

But it isn't. They have only one modern aircraft carrier, and from the design - harkening back to the early Japanese aircraft carriers of WWII, they have a lot to learn. If the rest of their modern offensive weapons are as backward, we might have better than an even chance if our military were equal, which they are not yet. They might be by 2027 though...provided their economy doesn't collapse first.

Respectfully disagree. They have a ton of nukes, hypersonic missiles that we cannot take out, not to mention at least 10 times the individuals in their military, especially with our military being so depleted due to service members being dismissed for not getting jabbed and the recruiting being the toilet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ih, I guess you haven't done your research on their new super carriers???

@samtilley If you have done your research, you know they have 1 (one) "super carrier" that is operational, and it has a launch ramp that angles skyward at about 30 degrees - a feature the Japanese abandoned in WWII, for good reason. (As soon as they started producing Zeros, which required a higher takeoff speed) Sure they have far more ships. Most of them small, and lightly equipped. And they have antique Russian aircraft carriers that won't last 5 minutes in a modern conflict, and they know it.

But anyone on the planet who uses nukes will doom ALL of humanity to a lifespan of no more than a month or two due to nuclear winter. The US and Soviets did all their testing underground after realizing that fact in 1953, and the fact that the Chinese did their testing underground as well, leads me to believe they also understand that.

We have hypersonic weapons as well, so that's just about the only equality.

If we were to engage them where their troops are, we would risk not prevailing. But they cannot move them easily or fast enough in a conflict like Taiwan or the Americas.

@TimTuolomne Take a look at the carriers from other countries. A lot of them have ramped decks, you know why??? That is for the vertical take off of their fighter jets!

We may have hypersonic missiles, but we don't have the balls to use them!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Better start learning chinese!!!!!!!!

@samtilley Not buying any of that. And the Chinese would rather take the US without firing a shot, which their asymmetrical warfare doctrine proposes.

@TimTuolomne DUH!!! Float an EMP device over head, on a joe biden balloon, like I said!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@TimTuolomne OH GEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Flood our country with FENTANYL!

@timtuolomne oh gee!! How bout they float another biden balloon over loaded with another deadly virus!!!!!!!

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If any civilization could have lead an alliance against Mongols, might they all have been better off?

govols Level 8 Feb 28, 2023

Interestingly enough the Mongols were conquered by genetics.

@wolfhnd

Yep, as are the current overlords.

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