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Russia calls up 300000 troops. The USA NATO and Russia openly speak about the use of nuclear weapons. My point is simple "The War in Ukraine was easy to predict" Because it's Russia's equivalent to the Cuban Missile crisis of 1962. The USA was willing to start a nuclear war with the USSR over nuclear missiles in Cuba. The stage is set for a full nuclear exchange between Russia and the USA. (China and North Korea are possible combatants) Having said this I would hope that if this eventuates then those idiots that planned this are removed from their cosy bunkers so they to can join in watching the end of modern society.

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I don't believe Russia has 300k troops to call up without conscriptioning the young men in their country - and how many of them are able and willing to go into battle? Damned few - about the same as here in USA

iThink Level 9 Sep 24, 2022
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A statement that NATO is not a military threat to Russia is a nonsense. NATO was formed to contain Russia by use of arms. The same could have been said about Poland and Germany on August 31st 1939.

Arty Level 7 Sep 24, 2022
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This is a rich question: "Is invasion justified?"

There are cases where it was unambiguously justified, such as the invasion of Germany in 1944.
Germany had invaded the world and it was killing Jews.

There are cases where it's unambiguously unjustified. Democrats invaded Republican territory. Democrats are cultural conquistadors. They try to steal Republican kids. They install leftists AGs in Republican territory and refuse to prosecute criminals. Etc. This is invasion, by any definition. Is this justified? Where are the Republican death camps? Unlike Nazi Germany, Republicans don't have death camps. Republicans aren't invading Democrat territory. Therefore, Democrats are the Nazis.

Most of the world is invading Democrat territory. Republicans are one of the few forces that isn't.
Democrats should be grateful, but instead they're childish snots and they think Republicans are domestic terrorists, worse than the 9/11 bombers.

The Civil War is ambiguous. The South was an independent nation, and many Republicans favored letting it be. Invading the South comes at great human cost. But then the South invaded
the North, and war was on.

Jefferson: The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.

Regardless of if invasion is justified or not, regardless of if rebellion is justified or not,
it is always okay to debate the question. Jefferson said so. Free speech yo!

Democrats feel that even talking about rebellion against Democrat tyranny is a crime, punishable with maximum force. Democrats crush all protests under the pretext that it's an insurrection. Therefore, Democrats are tyrants, and rebellion is justified.

War is certain.

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The US has set this up by meddling with powerful weapons support for Russia's enemy on their own doorstep - just like the Soviets supporting the enemy on our doorstep with nuclear missiles in Cuba in 1962. Both were breathtakingly stupid, as if nuclear war was not a possibility of making such a rash decision. It was in Cuba, and it is today.

NATO's purpose was fulfilled when the wall came down in 1989, and should have been disbanded. It has become a source of destabilization of the region since then, including inviting Ukraine to join, which is a provocation of Russia. Progressives in the US foolishly decided to interfere, and that has brought us to brinkmanship today.

The delicate US support of Taiwan on China's doorstep is the same problem. We dare not provide overt support for risk of provoking China; a nuance lost on the Biden administration that has chosen to rattle sabres, placing Taiwan at grave risk.

Apparently many are not aware of the strategic value of countries near superpowers, and how superpowers tend to include them in their defense (or offense) umbrellae; often regardless of the sovereignty of those small countries.

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The Cuban military crisis was a direct and existential MILITARY threat to the US. The only response is threat of war.

The Ukraine war is a economical and cultural threat to Russia. Not military or existential.

So no, not the same at all.

China presents the same threat to the US. Should the US then be allowed to invade China?

Everyone saying NATO weapons in Ukraine… no, they were not being allowed into NATO or even considered before 2014.

Everyone saying bio labs… there are bio labs in almost every developed country. Why is Russia not invading China for COVID 19?

No, Ukraine was an easy target to try and save the failing Russia economy and declining influence.

And finally, only Russia is threatening to use nuclear weapons offensively. Everyone else is taking about nuclear defence.

Hanno Level 8 Sep 23, 2022

NATO was always going to include Ukraine. NATO places nuclear weapons on its front lines.

@Arty

Most NATO countries opposed Ukraine entry before 2014.

France and Turkey both said never, even after 2014.

Even now Turkey was trying to stop Finland and Sweden.

The story that Ukraine was always going to be included is nothing but Russian propaganda.

This war was never about NATO, but Ukraine entering the EU.

@Arty
And please list the nuclear weapons in Estonia and Latvia.

Saying that NATO place nuclear weapons on its front lines are nonsense.

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"The War in Ukraine was easy to predict" Because it's Russia's equivalent to the Cuban Missile crisis of 1962.

what I said from the beginning -

iThink Level 9 Sep 22, 2022

If this was true, then why is the US not at war with China?

@Hanno
Not sure how you can relate the USA going to war with China to Russia’s military annexation of the Ukraine?

China owns many of the American politicians that would be required to declare war and especially the Puppet in the executive office that would be required to send troops or commit resources to attack China. The same cannot be said for Ukrainian ownership of the Russian war machine.

The Ukraine borders Russia and by threatening to give the Ukraine NATO membership and set up western backed military defensive and offensive weaponry aimed at Russia is a direct threat to Russia. Whereas China is not threatening to degrade our sovereignty or our ability do defend ourselves against them by setting up Mexico or Canada as a China backed military power. (China’s attacks on our continued existence are far more insidious and better disguised and even deniable in the eyes of the rest of the world.)

It seems to me you are comparing apples to oranges.

@Daveclark5
Ukraine was never a military threat to Russia. Even if it join NATO it will still not be a threat to Russia.

NATO itself is not a military threat Russia.

So no, the apples and oranges comparison was the OP’s comparison.

Now the cultural and economic threat that the EU presents to Russia is the same as the threat China presents to the.US…. Which is the real reason for the invasion.

Hence it is a more apples with apples comparison.

@Hanno
I just deleted a long response because I don’t want to press my point about nato being an existential threat to Russia.

I will leave it with the point that from Russia’s (Putin’s) perspective, the threat is existential. Their perspective is based partly upon historical evidence and if we were wise, we’d consider their perspective and stop poking that bear. The final death throws can be deadly to everybody else.

Perspective is too important to ignore, so I understand your perspective and mine are different. That’s normal and healthy, so thank you for sharing yours with me and others. You probably see things from your perspective that we don’t see and the we may see something thing from our perspectives that you don’t see. We can gain from each other’s perspectives. At the same time we see many of the same things and should focus more attention on those things we hold in common.

I agree that this war is not a good thing and should be stopped if possible as soon as possible. This should not be seen as a win lose situation. There are synergistic solutions that are not even being considered by either side.

@Daveclark5
Understanding others perspectives are the reason I am here.
Sometime I too get carried away with my own understanding, and have to be reminded why I am here.

Thank you for again reminding me.

Jordan Peterson again on the recent Sky Australia news really challenged my perspective on the war.

I like being challenged that way..

@Daveclark5 I agree completely - IMHO USA/NATO had no business interjecting themselves in the business between Russia and Ukraine in the first place. I cannot help thinking the Biden familys corrupt involvement (see bribery and money laundering) with Ukraine gov't and business men is what compelled Putin to seize control of the matter himself. NATO / USA needs to butt out immediately - stop providing aid and military support for Ukraine. Russia would be correct in seeing this as hostile intent against them.
To paraphrase Barack Obama (good lord!) "never underestimate Joe Bidens ability to fuck up everything he touches"...
Obama was not only right about that but he deserves a nod of approval for being the only person in DC who had the nerve to say so. Its not like anyone else in that town believed Biden was competent.
I for one would be very interested to hear Obamas insights and opinions on Hillary Clinton as well. I'm sure it would not be flattering.

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I agree our foolish and arrogant politicians are culpable for stoking concerns that led to this war. However, the main difference is that the USSR would fly their war planes on the 200 mile point as they attempted to set up nuclear bombing capabilities close to our southern shores. The nuclear capabilities they were seeking to set up were rightly seen as an existential threat to the US. Fortunately, our Intel gave us enough warning before they were able to complete their plans and we were able to use all our i strummers of national power to alleviate that threat.

In the case of this war, although this posed a direct threat to Russia, the threat wasn’t existential. On the other hand, this.threat was a clear attempt to reduce Russias influence and weaken them by degrading their autonomy and national power with respect to their neighbors. This being said, I also would like to see those in the US government that stoked the flames that ultimately led to this war pay a price for their arrogance and the wanton loss of lives and world resources resulting from this war.

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