slug.com slug.com
3 5

Conservative:

: a political philosophy based on tradition and social stability, stressing established institutions, and preferring gradual development to abrupt change
specifically : such a philosophy calling for lower taxes, limited government regulation of business and investing, a strong national defense, and individual financial responsibility for personal needs (such as retirement income or health-care coverage)

Beachslim 8 Jan 21
Share
You must be a member of this group before commenting. Join Group

Be part of the movement!

Welcome to the community for those who value free speech, evidence and civil discourse.

Create your free account

3 comments

Feel free to reply to any comment by clicking the "Reply" button.

1

False flag operation. "...lower taxes, limited government regulation of business and investing, a strong national defense, and individual financial responsibility for personal needs... ARE traditional values, not new "abrupt" changes.

The progressive changes are abruptly raising the debt 20 trillion dollars - well beyond the US ability to sustain, institutionalize social programs for generations, so that eventually that demographic is the majority and completely unable to fend for themselves, and build massive, unconstitutional, unaccountable government to achieve it.

Finally the progressives lie just like this post, to keep beating the drum until the country is so far down the pipe that it can not be recovered by conservatism.

I think that description was about the conservative philosophy, not the abrupt change.

@rway No, it was claiming conservatism is against abrupt change, which may be generally true, but then equated traditional values with that abrupt change, and claimed conservatism is against traditional values. That kind of twisted logic is the same convoluted reasoning that tries to associate Republicans with the KKK - a Democrat founded organization, and claim Republicans are for big government and greater restriction of the rights of Americans, something Democrats have been going for since 1937 with the birth of the vast federal bureaucracy under FDR.

2

"There is nothing more conservative than a liberal institution." - PJ O'Rourke.

Once socialism engineers a society it is impossible to bring change. They become conservative very fast, preferring absolutely no change other than what aggrandizes the State.
We have socialized medicine in Canada. It has various flaws in it but - try and change it? Impossible.
The only acceptable change is to feed it more money or make it bigger. Every ten or twenty years they do a study that costs tens of millions to determine how it can be improved. Conclusion - it needs more resources. More money, more people. Then it will get to a stage where taxes cannot be raised anymore to sustain it so it will start cutting services. Smoke? No service for you. No vaccine? No service for you. The system however, remains "conserved".

A government that maintains the founding principles of a nation and remains within the boundaries of its mandates should be conservative. It allows the people and society to remain liberal. A liberal government means exactly that - its liberal. And will always work to increase the scope of its mandate and centralize its power. It will only appear liberal to the people because it says it will free them from their individual responsibilities to themselves, others and the nation. You can be free from your folly. Unwanted pregnancy? We can make it legal for you to be free from that. Fired from your job? Justly or unjustly, no problem. We can make it almost impossible for anyone to be fired (a fact in Europe). Not making enough? We'll invent a minimum wage. Government will look after you until you can't afford any tax increases and they can't afford to provide the service. Then they will "conserve" the State and crush the individual.

1

What needs to be added is that conservatives also prefer government intervention into personal freedoms (who you may marry or not, recreational drug use etc.

This is important to understand the difference between conservatives and libertarians.

Hanno Level 8 Jan 21, 2022

“who you may marry or not”. What?

I think the key to this observation is the fact that "conservative" has no meaning until you establish the context.
A Cultural Conservative would favor heterosexual marriage and illegalization of many drugs; depending upon the facets of culture that they wish to "conserve".
But a Constitutional Conservative (and the two are not mutually exclusive) would recognize that enforcing these preferences in the private sector is not a legitimate role of Government; no matter what they, themselves, would prefer.

I think you are correct... in that Constitutional Conservative is probably synonymous with "Libertarian"... which used to just be "Liberal" until Progressives absorbed that label into their Orwellian NewSpeak catalog.

Everybody is "conservative" in one sense or another. The Founders, themselves, were "Progressives" in their own contemporary context... seeking to supplant the status quo with a new vision. Now, the desire to "conserve" what they established, is a conservative position by definition.
And, modern "Progressives" from the 1960's-1970's, want desperately to conserve the "progress" that they've made so far, by protecting the paper-"Right" to kill their offspring, and their racist social-engineering policies that explicitly exclude White people, for example. That makes them "conservatives" in that context.

Unless qualified with context... the terms are pretty much useless, just like the terms "Left" and "Right". Labels are only useful as rhetorical shortcuts, when the receiver knows exactly what you mean when you use it. We all know generally who we are talking about, when we say "Liberals" or "Conservatives" in casual conversation. But "generally" does not suffice when you're trying to seriously get to the bottom of some issues that run all the way down to core, foundational, axiomatic principles.

@Rick-A
Vast majority of “conservatives” believes homosexuality is a sin and should be outlawed.
Or anything contrary to whatever belief they adhere to.

If you you are a “conservative” and don’t think that, you are likely a libertarian.

@Hanno or, if you're a conservative who believes homosexuality is a sin, but it's God's job to judge and punish sin, not the government's job... then you are likely a Libertarian.
America is not a Theocracy... pretty sure New Zealand isn't either.
Laws are for protecting people's Rights, not punishing sin.

Recent Visitors 17

Photos 11,797 More

Posted by JohnHoukGlobalist Tyranny Videos Batch – Part TWO SUMMARY: The video list I’m sharing leans more toward Globalist Tyranny (which includes the American traitors – the Dem-Marxists) in this batch.

Posted by JohnHoukGlobalist Tyranny Videos Batch – Part ONE SUMMARY: I’ve spent the last few days looking at saved videos largely from Telegram Social Media.

Posted by JohnHoukWATCH OUT FOR AN AI TYRANNY & NSA Spying SUMMARY: I’ve witnessed too many dark-side leaps and bounds to give credence to AI-Tyranny naysayers.

Posted by Sensrhim4hizvewzCohencidence or PLANNED???

Posted by Sensrhim4hizvewz Hopefully, everyone catches it and everyone gets better

Posted by JohnHoukFBI Investigates Baltimore Bridge Collapse! Suggests NOT an Accident! SUMMARY: On 3/27/24 I shared a Lara Logan Tweet on her opinion of what caused the Francis Scott Key Bridge near Baltimore ship ...

Posted by JohnHoukPolitical Tyranny – Part Two Videos Showing the Political Tyranny of Factionalism & Globalist Entanglements SUMMARY: IN Part 1 I used President Washington’s 1796 Farewell Address as a ...

Posted by JohnHoukPolitical Tyranny – Part One President Washington Warned of the Insidious Outcome of Political Factions & Foreign Entanglements SUMMARY: George Washington – RIGHTLY SO – is called the Father...

Posted by JohnHoukFuellmich Political Persecution Encapsulates Globalist Lawfare SUMMARY: A few thoughts on Deep State Political Persecution of Trump & Supports.

Posted by JohnHoukLooking at Birx Not Fauci Managed Medical Tyranny Includes Personal Observations on Legit President Trump SUMMARY: Looking at a VNN examination of the short Documentary: “It Wasn't Fauci: How ...

Posted by FocusOn1Uh oh, i hate to say this, but israel was formed in 1948, 100 years after karl marx wrote his book. Was it formed as a atheist communist country?

Posted by MosheBenIssacWith woke fat ass acceptance, only applies to women (fat bitches). What used to be funny is now illegal. The video won a Grammy Award for Best Concept Music Video in 1988 [youtu.be]

Posted by JohnHoukRemember WHY You Are Resisting the Coup Summary: Well… It’s series of videos time again.

Posted by JohnHoukA Call for Intercession Over WHO Power Grab Treaty SUMMARY: A call for prayer on America’s leaders related to the National Sovereignty terminating Pandemic (better known as Plandemic) Treaty.

Posted by MosheBenIssacDisney COLLAPSES Billions Lost In MINUTES After Shareholders Troll Company Sticking With WOKE! [youtu.be]

Posted by JohnHoukIntro to Maj.

  • Top tags#video #youtube #world #government #media #biden #democrats #USA #truth #children #Police #society #god #money #reason #Canada #rights #freedom #culture #China #hope #racist #death #vote #politics #communist #evil #socialist #Socialism #TheTruth #justice #kids #democrat #crime #evidence #conservative #hell #nation #laws #liberal #federal #community #military #racism #climate #violence #book #politicians #joebiden #fear ...

    Members 9,403Top

    Moderators