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I laugh whenever i hear how less guns would equal less gun crime. ok sure if guns never existed sure but they do and they are obtainable even if you make them illegal. I mean criminals already get their hands on them when they aren’t supposed to so that won’t solve the issue. but let’s assume the actual premise of the statement would solve the problem, when was the last tine you heard of a mass shooting at a gun show? i thought if you have more guns around more gun violence will occur?

Joehlert11 7 Oct 18
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An armed society means a more polite one.

Latest FBI data on gun violence showed that in last year guns were used in 1.2M incidents to either stop or minimize a violent act by a ....... "thug". And, non-coppers did most of that.

I fully support open carry. It's kinda like locking your doors, having a fence around your (back) yard, yada, yada. Part sensible precautions and part a statement: if you wanna talk, knock on the front door. I'll talk with anyone who is polite about it.
A thug seeing my carrying a weapon is a statement and a warning. I might not survive your attack, but I will mess you up. Is that worth it to you?

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The mass shootings scenarios typically happen in 'gun free' zones. Plenty of buried news stories of concealed carry operators stopping mass homicide attempts.

that’s my point. they happen in gun free sones. by their logic though we should see more mass shootings at something like a gun show where guns are everywhere

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IT IS NOT THE GUNS STUPID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Serg97 Level 8 Oct 18, 2021

Im aware of that. im just arguing their point of more guns equals more violence. i mean yes the people also matter as well but they don't even like to accept that because that woukd mean when more violence occurs in minority neighborhoods it has to do with the people than the presence of guns.

@Joehlert11 And it was KNIVES before guns existed!!!!! And CLUBS before that!!!!!
Humans will be Humans, like it or not!!!!!!!

@Serg97 im trying to figure-out whats with all the caps and explanations. like what are you trying to argue? we agree here. yes it has more to do with the people and not the weapon of choice. they don't bother with that argument because that means there is an issue with the people and they can't have that because when you look at the statistics it is minorities committing violent crime and minorities can't be bad so they blame the weapon. you are arguing a different position entirely

@Joehlert11 If you would look at my posts and comments, you would see the the CAPs and Exclamations are just part of MY style!!!!!!
Nothing more!!!!

@Serg97 If your style is CAPS&!@#$%^&, the popular perception is that you are dancing awfully close to the dude on the street arguing with a tree.
He may not be crazy, but it looks like the tree is winning the argument, so he ought to back off a bit.

Chill a mite.

@bobbo666 And that is YOUR opinion, and you are entitled to it!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Democrats shouldn't be allowed to own guns.

i disagree. they actually should. maybe then theyd actually understand how stupid their own arguments are

Langley Outdoors Academy has a lot of videos of the Dem narrative falling apart

@Joehlert11 many if not most of them are incorrigibly brainwashed Antifa types. You really wouldn't want those to be carrying guns, would you? Let them understand how stupid their arguments are and flip themselves over first 😊 Then they won't use those guns to create scenarios detrimental to Conservatives.

@eschatologyguy eh i thinknmany are just ill informed more than anything and most Democrats like most Republicans have good intent they just have different means of solving the same problem and in most Democrats case they don’t understand their own argument let alone that of Republicans and actually having first hand experience with fire arms would help them

@Joehlert11 If these ill-informed are giving you the finger for not getting vaxxed, think what they would do with guns.

@eschatologyguy the ill minded ill uninformed [(except informed by whatever liberal brainwashing they were subjected to in public school indoctrination)<---which by the way IS about the only thing I can agree with them when it is said IT IS NOT their fault] ~~~they can not fight worth a crap, they have no stamina because they live on soy protein and nutrionless food by-products & additives, not real protein, they have done no real work in life, certainly no exercise, generational generalization speaking not specific individuals. Much like the WW2 generation were all tough as nails because they had all grown up in a depression and knew how to make due with what little or nothing they had to work with.

much like gun free Chicago there are plenty of guns for the scoff laws, its the people of conscience that capitulate to the law even when it is wrong unfortunately

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