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21.10.11.0130M A POLITICAL COMPASS EXPLAINS THE POLITICAL QUANDARY?

The accepted way of describing political views is by Left or Right on a linear scale. This is where I have fallen into criticism for not agreeing with such representations.

I’m stuck with the viewpoint that political leanings can only described & understood by Left & Right with a 360 degree circular representation – a Political Compass as it were. Only in this way can the Authoritarian Left and the Authoritarian Right be shown holding hands as despotic siblings as they do in the real world.

Not that I/m trying to be unreasonable or even critical of those that choose a flat leaner scale in their description – it does seem initially a logical way of perceiving politics. And I’m pretty sure that the Extreme Right has no desire to be associated with the Extreme Left in such a familiar fashion – and vise-versa. They’d both probably resent such an associative connection being made – yet they’re both, to one extent or another, describe themselves as Socialists & they’re both Authoritarian forms of government? Mind you, I do recognize the few differences, but sibling more oft than not disagree with each other over their difference also.

Another observation is that both Extreme Left & Extreme Right are insistent on uniformity – of adversity to individuality – in addition to both ruthlessly being Marxist in propensity. The more you observe them the more they actually look alike?

PS. I would posit that the founding fathers of America were Classical Liberals located precisely at 000 degrees on the above Political Compass being discussed above!

Posted by: Fox News ~ Oct 10, 2021
“Hilton: Here's how the 'Biden regime' is 'fascist' and authoritarian”

1914wizard 8 Oct 11
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A "spectrum" is linear. The color spectrum is linear and you never bend it into a circle because the color at one end is similar to the color at the other end. Would someone even place blue at one end of the color spectrum and navy blue at the other? No. Because they are not opposites they are similar.

Bending the political spectrum into a circle is merely an attempt to understand what the extreme right and the extreme left are doing at opposite ends of the spectrum when they are so similar. Hitler's manifesto is very similar to Marx's manifesto. We'll just bend the spectrum around and there - that explains it all. It doesn't explain where anything else belongs in the circle. Liberalism and Conservatism are supposed to be centrist but then that breaks down into economic and social factions where Liberals can be economically conservative but socially Liberals and Conservatives can be socially liberal but economically conservative. The difference blurs.

Conservatives would tend to be smaller government than Liberals. In the end that is the only difference between governments - how big and pervasive they are in the society. Thus the spectrum should go from no government at one end to total government at the other end.

The fact that socialists oppose each other is due to their dictatorial nature. Every socialist party wants governmental power for themselves alone - not because they are opposites. At a fledgling stage socialist parties will band together to gain power against other parties. Eventually one will destroy the other though and a single controlling party emerges.

Today, a state of confusion has erupted due to the fact that the left and right of the contemporary spectrum have been blurred by extremism. In the eyes of the left and right factions, all moderation has disappeared. The left are communist socialist totalitarians and the right are national socialist totalitarians. A big war is coming and the communists seem to have the edge. It may all go down in a whimper and we will finally get to try real socialism, on a global scale, at last. Anyway you look at it though, the approach won't be pretty for most of us.

This struggle between different socialist ideologies is a fabricated one. If communist socialism and national socialism had been placed at the same end of the political spectrum socialist insanity to gain total control, globally or nationally, would always remain a fringe movement, if it existed at all, and sanity would prevail. Only maniacs would think they could rule the world or totally engineer their nations. They would more easily be seen as the megalomaniacs they are.

I had no idea that Right or Left were colors to be measured. But you have a good one anyway, 1914wizard OUT

@1914wizard An extreme Rightist would be a self-reliant bushcrafter enjoying his freedom alone in the woods, far away from meddlesome government. That is what the media claims as dangerous.

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Fascism is of the Left. Check out Giovanni Gentilé, the Marxist who tweaked the Socialist Ideology to make it nationalistic instead of internationalistic, and allowed capitalism so long as they were all under the thumb of the ruling party. In fact, the word Nazi is the abbreviation of the words "nationalist" and "socialist" in German. Technically speaking, the CCP has morphed itself into a fascist dictatorship.

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