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The problem, if you have not figured it out, the problem is the EDUCATION SYSTEM!!!!!
It is not their job to teach critical thinking, politics, social justice, etc.!!!!!
It is their job to teach reading, writing and arithmetic!!!!!
Everything else is should be up to parents!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This has not been the case since about 1960, I was a teen ager by then, so I know!!!!!!
We have several generations that have been indocunated by the "Educatioal System"!!!!
(Note: "indocunated" is not a word in the spell check, I wonder why????????)

Serg97 Level 8 Oct 12, 2021
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If it had not been tried before maybe you could excuse the loosening of moral standards. Civilization requires a harsh stable environment. Now I have nothing against gay, trans, lesbian, etc. people but it's not a question of prejudice. It's a question of social organization. My experience has been that promiscuity is socially disruptive. That of course includes heterosexual people.

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If parents are those who have extreme views, e.g., far-left, far-right, etc., and are trying to interfere with the curriculum, of course they are the problem. What is it the parents have exposed in their children's schools, anyway? What are those "materials" exactly that are so morally grotesque and sexually perverted?

Naomi Level 8 Oct 8, 2021

So you support exposing school children to LGBT Ideology?

This link describes critical pedagogy, developed in US colleges of education, and a bit about how it's implemented in US k-12 public schools.

[theedadvocate.org]

@eschatologyguy Says who?

@Naomi so what exactly is it that you are saying there?

@govols That's more like the response I was expecting. I'll take a look. Thanks.

@govols So, I read the article. "Critical pedagogy" Lol Apart from the fancy term, most teachers have been exercising most parts of this approach for ages.

For example:
Establishing a trusting teacher-student relationship is essential;
Sitting in a circle, instead of sitting in rows is effective when encouraging students to develop debating skills through free discussions;
Making students aware of the other side of the coin (alternative views) is helpful in developing critical thinking/free thinking skills in students;
Students are encouraged to think freely and independently so that they can reach their own conclusions and act accordingly and responsibly; etc., etc.

However, like everything else, politics distorts the essence of education.

Also, I think "parents vs. schools" is too simplistic to further thoughts on. Not all parents are interested in their children's education; some parents support extreme views; not all schools support teaching CRT; some schools are so religious that they will not teach anything outside their beliefs; etc., etc.

@Naomi

I'm gonna try to get back this weekend. I think further conversation might be fruitful for both of us.

@eschatologyguy

If your comment was to me, I said nothing but"here's an article that's on topic." It was pointed toward @Naomi rather than you, but presented for any interested.

I was saying almost nothing, but allowing the writer of an article to speak for themselves.

@govols Sowe, mins-clicked 😁

@Naomi

I picked the above article because it is from within the perspective of the "method's" own ideas and practices. Notice it's based in Critical Theories, and notice it's systemic in its implementation. It is, itself, a system of power designed to not to inculcate free and open critical thinking, but instead to indoctrinate children into thinking "critically;" it preaches a "gospel" of good news, that everything you know through tradition and the grand narratives of the histories of your peoples is probably a deception invented by those in power specifically and intentionally support the social structures that maintain those in power over those they oppress.

But you can be liberated from the deceptions by learning the techniques of Critical Theories. Not Reason, not Logic, not by critical thinking toward Truth, but through learning to rationalized your identifications of oppression and to criticize the traditions and cultural structures that prevent one from discovering a personal perspectival truth...My Truth. Critical Pedagogy is literally a collection of instruction methods designed to imbed Critical Theories into curricula, no matter the topic at hand. It's a systemic proselytization of social and cultural praxis. It's designed to fabricate activists rather to give children an embedment in culture, rooted in stories and traditions than bind them together.

Anyway, that's sort of how I read it.

@govols I'm sure that many people would interpret the article like you did. When I read it, my first reaction was "there is nothing new about this method, apart from it has a fancy name including an in-word 'critical'." The article also includes other "triggering words", if you like, such as "inequalities" and "activism". You thought that the method was based in CT. I see it that a good old teaching method (like I said, it has been practised by many teachers/schools for many many years) has been hijacked by a CT advocate, which is concerning, of course. The article is politically biased. If you support CT, you will be impressed by the method, and if you don't support CT, you will be upset by the method. I hope that experienced teachers who are capable of observing impartiality can see through what this article is doing.

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The way parents are being treated in this country is absolutely horrible - to Sic the FBi on parents concerned about their children is totalitarianism at it's worst.

Hello there. You guys are going along with this meme and seem to agree that education in America is totally messed up. But when I analyse the meme, word by word, it's so vague that it hardly tells me anything accurate. So I have to ask; What is it parents have exposed in their children's schools over the past year? What are those "materials" exactly that are so morally grotesque and sexually perverted? Are there any articles I can read regarding the matter?

@Naomi Most of the information has been actual videos posted on social media of parents confronting school board members of incidents involving their children. I don’t know of any articles that have been written.

Hello FEWI. OK, in that case, would you be so kind as to direct me to some of the videos you watched, or what words can I type in the YouTube search box to find them?

@Naomi This is all I could find but this is only one of many.

[citizenstringer.com]

@FEWI Thank you! I'll take a look. 🙂

@Naomi It really doesn't matter what the material is - if the parents do something illegal at these meetings, then the local police should be called. To send the FBI out after these parents is Wrong no matter how foolish their objections are to what is being taught.

@marmmaadd Contexts and details always matter to me.

@Naomi [californiaglobe.com]

@2peros Thanks. I'll check it out.

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The one upside to covid and especially the reactions from media and governments is that it has moved a bunch of people to look behind the curtains. Once you see it, you see it everywhere.

govols Level 8 Oct 8, 2021
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With a PedoPres installed into the WHouse, what can anyone expect? And, with Epstein dead (murdered) the perves in the MSM are safe.

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Making people more socially dysfunctional, so they depend on the government more, is the goal.

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