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How's that democratic Police State workin' out for y'all?

Heresiarch 8 Sep 5
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Modern voting is useless to citizens and society with the western worlds rigged, manipulated and crooked vote counting system we have been using since Vietnam days.

Foz01 Level 7 Sep 6, 2021

I still think there's power in the vote but I certainly can't argue a good or strong case for voting. This is a significant turnaround for me so I seem to be heading towards your view. Give it another year and we'll see where I end up.

@Penrodster Your vote does not count!!It goes where the cheats want it to go. Voting is a good idea, just not this particular voting system we use. It's the system peeps. It is not a voting counting system it is a vote manipulating system. It's rooted and crooked. Why would you waste your time choosing your preference when someone else will ignore your particular vote and put it where they want it to go. IT is not your vote really it is theirs, they ignore your wants and replace it with their own overriding choice on your vote. WHY USE IT??

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It's not perfect, but its the best system we've had so far. Do you have a better suggestion?

Satch Level 7 Sep 5, 2021

It's running its normal course, just like the Evil Empire.

@Heresiarch Ok, so how do you think we can construct society to be better? It's very easy to criticise, far harder to offer real alternatives. Most anarchists stop short of any real opinion beyond collapsing the current paradigm, but without a long term plan, revolutions just result in more death and destruction.

@Satch The answer has been clear for millennia - Stop believing the myth that anyone has the Right to rule over another. It is The most Dangerous Superstition.

"The primary threat to freedom and justice is not greed, or hatred, or any of the other emotions or human flaws usually blamed for such things. Instead, it is one ubiquitous superstition which infects the minds of people of all races, religions and nationalities, which deceives decent, well-intentioned people into supporting and advocating violence and oppression. Even without making human beings one bit more wise or virtuous, removing that one superstition would remove the vast majority of injustice and suffering from the world. "

[goodreads.com]

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interesting but I'm not sure I get the point being made here

iThink Level 9 Sep 5, 2021

These should help

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The best definition of democracy I've heard is Two Wolves and a Sheep voting on what they should have for lunch.

ellism Level 6 Sep 5, 2021

That is American democracy you're talking about.

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You mean China?

GeeMac Level 8 Sep 5, 2021

China learned how to run elections from the Evil Empire -

@Heresiarch so what’s your alternative? Coin toss? The feudal system? Monarchy? Marxism? Cage fight?

Let’s toss out the current system. What do you replace it with?

@GeeMac You aren't paying attention or don't understand. The only alternative that brings the greatest outcome for the most people on the planet is "No Rulers."
Do YOU need to be ruled? If so, pick any sociopath you choose, it YOUR choice.
I sure as fuck don't. And I won't be ruled bay anyone regardless of how many idiots think I should.

@GeeMac We do not have the answers yet, we don;t even know how bad it is. but that does not mean that we continue to use a crooked, rigged and manipulated system. That is a silly question if you want it answered here and now. There are some incredibly smart people out there mate, finding a better system will not be difficult. Remember,it was not always like that.

@Heresiarch no rulers? You have more faith in your fellow citizen then I. Remember the Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone - or Chaz? That’s what you’ll have in short order. Trading rule by a tyrant for rule by a knuckle dragging mob isn’t progress.

@GeeMac You're damn straight I do.
Governments and the myth of legitimate authority are the root cause of most of the misery of mankind all the way back to prehistory, and is the only true source of "Terrorism" in the world. In fact the word "Terrorism" originally defined "governments" that rule by violence, intimidation and coercion. Not any other individual or group.

"...IMPORTANT NOTE: Among all the democide estimates appearing on in this book, some have been revised upward. I have changed that for Mao's famine, 1958-1962, from zero to 38,000,000. And thus I have had to change the overall democide for the PRC (1928-1987) from 38,702,000 to 76,702,000. Details here.
I have changed my estimate for colonial democide from 870,000 to an additional 50,000,000. Details here.

Thus, the new world total: old total 1900-1999 = 174,000,000. New World total = 174,000,000 + 38,000,000 (new for China) + 50,000 (new for Colonies) = 262,000,000.

Just to give perspective on this incredible murder by government, if all these bodies were laid head to toe, with the average height being 5', then they would circle the earth ten times. Also, this democide murdered 6 times more people than died in combat in all the foreign and internal wars of the century. Finally, given popular estimates of the dead in a major nuclear war, this total democide is as though such a war did occur, but with its dead spread over a century..."

[hawaii.edu]

@Heresiarch I’m familiar with the democide stats you cited, and I often cite them myself. I’m not disagreeing with anything in the last post.

Human beings are capable of great malevolence. Governments, institutions, corporations, religious groups and other systems are not so much good or evil in and of themselves, they are expressions of their members. There’s some good and some evil in all of us, and our institutions reflect that.

What I object to is the leftist proclivity to single out the United States and endlessly enumerate, and usually exaggerate, its flaws. I agree that human’s are easily manipulated by fear, superstition, deception or just plain old stupidity into supporting malevolent causes. I believe this is a human, rather than a political problem.

Ian Shapiro put some context around the ethics of different political systems in his 2003 book, The Moral Foundations of Politics. Again, in looking at the existing research of various systems constructed by societies all over the world, the Western liberal democracies are by far the best among what many see as bad choices.

Having said that, it’s a simple exercise to take potshots at the Western democracies. That sport has produced countless Ph.Ds. Personally, I have no patience for it.

@GeeMac It doesn't matter who singles out the Evil Empire(s) or their vassal states. The fact is, none of them are worthy of the Authority we are indoctrinated to bestow upon them. All to our own ruin.

The only way you can compare "the moral foundations of Politics," is if your premise from the start is faulty - that have have any legitimacy at all.

@Heresiarch then your issue is with the concept of leadership itself. Someone will always be the leader. Someone or some group will always hold authority. “Some men are born great, some achieve greatness, some have greatness thrust upon them.” There is simply no way around that. leadership and hierarchies have always existed and always will.

The question of “legitimacy” is irrelevant. The leadership class often seizes power through force and bloodshed, or is handed it from loving subjects. But by whatever means, it will always exist.

@GeeMac No, not "leadership," but "rulership." True leaders are followed voluntarily. Rulers, not so much.

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