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Pope Francis Calls for Civil Union Laws for Same-sex Couples

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This is just one more reason that he is becoming increasingly unpopular among traditional Catholics. He is espousing a view that is inconsistent with his church's doctrine, not to mention the Bible.

KeithThroop 9 Oct 21
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I believe in civil unions. A multicultural nation like the U.S. should not be in the marriage business. Growing up in a farming community I knew several "couples" often brothers living for life together or sisters who never married living together. Since marriage provides certain legal benefits it seems reasonable to extend those benefits to people who are not married but wish to have a legal life long commitment.

As to the Popes position on anything I have never taken Popes seriously even as a small child living in a Catholic family.

Acts 10:34

"Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:"

wolfhnd Level 8 Oct 21, 2020
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This will displease his buddies in Islam.

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How can this guy be Pope... so much for the Catholic belief in Infallibility, etc

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I don't think he should have done so - it is stepping into secular society. If he can't support it based on his religion, as head of that religion, he has no business stating that opinion.

There, I said it twice. Because civil union laws are ONLY for the purpose of legalizing same sex marriage...

Anyway, he is the forerunner for the Anti-Christ so anything that comes out of his mouth is going to be anti-faith...

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My comprehension of Christianity is that its viability as a world view relies on it being adaptable to any number of the infinite cultures for which it's required to provide a meaningful message of hope and faith. I'm not a big fan of the current pope, but his his the head of a family. He has to manage its many dysfunctions. People need a certain amount of faith in the stories that formed them and the cultures in which they reside, AND they need relationships, communities, and micro-communities like families and life-partners. I have a queer couple in my in-group, one of whom struggles with cancer, and the other of whom will need the comfort he provided his "mate" returned many-fold once the struggle is lost.

It seems to me that God's law, God's Word, has to be many layered and apply to humanity at large, any given Nation, any given community, and to any given individual. For the word to be redemptive on so many levels, across the times and spaces in which individuals have, do, and will in time exist, it must present itself as a pair of open arms into which humans experiencing the feelings of overwhelming hurt that we all enjoy can lean into for a Heavenly hug.

Yes, it also has to provide discipline, rules and expectations, tyranny from time to time, but also the possibility that acceptance within the Body is available?

govols Level 8 Oct 21, 2020

To be sure, Christians are called upon by God to love everyone, which entails bearing with their weaknesses (humbly recognizing that we all have them) as well as telling them the truth (humbly recognizing that we ourselves are neither the source nor the arbiter of truth).

Christians are not called upon by God, however, to sacrifice their moral principles in order to conform to a given society or culture. In fact, we are called upon to remain true to the moral teachings of the Bible despite what a given society or culture may demand of us. It is not an easy thing to do, but do it we must.

Of course, I don't expect non-Christians to fully understand. No doubt many of them will view us as intolerant, and even cruel, but our stance is one of love for others whom we see following a path of destruction. We are called upon to warn them, not to encourage them in the direction they are headed.

Also, although I am a Protestant, what I have just outlined is a perspective upon which Protestants and Catholics have historically agreed, despite our fundamental disagreements on some other matters. Anyway, I am saddened by what I've seen in the current pope, and I am genuinely sympathetic toward the many traditional Catholics who feel betrayed by him.

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