You guys really need to stop with the radical conspiracy that Harris is going to be installed as the president. It's Biden - Harris, not the other way around, no matter how much you want to spin that narrative. You just keep making yourselves look like fools.

The debate was awful. No one really answered a question, there were plenty of mistruths on both sides, and the moderator was unable to stop anyone from veering off topic or going over their time. However, Pence was definitely worse when it came to interrupting - he went way over his time at one point, as well as talked through all of Harris' time during one of her questions, and then she was not given equal time back.

Since I am not enraged by clear bias like you people, I will admit Harris failed on many fronts. She should have hammered him more about the virus response and how they have spectacularly failed - they were trying to be respectful because Trump gave himself the virus, and I definitely don't think it was the time for kid-gloves. She should have brought up Trump "falling in love" with Kim Jong-un and taking Putin's word over his own intelligence when she was on the topic of selling out America. When discussing Trump's attacks on military, she should have also brought up Trump's attack on Biden's son during the last debate. She should have called out Trump's child-tantrum performance at the last debate. But of course she also dropped the ball in avoiding the packed court question, which Biden did as well, and which can definitely hurt them - though she should have mentioned how McConnell and the Republicans stole Obama's pick out from under him.

Neither of them could properly answer the question about old-as-fuck presidents where the VP might have to assume power. I wonder how people can justify their attacks on Biden's health and this theory that Harris will be the real president, when Pence completely avoided going anywhere near a real answer about it. It's probably because you all know that Biden has the integrity and humility to admit if he had an actual health issue and had to transfer power, whereas Trump has Jong-un levels of god-complex and could never admit he was anything less than perfect and would be on his deathbed refusing to give up his power.

Of course Pence also completely avoided the question of peaceful transfer of power. It was like he was reading directly from a script, talking about how they will win and it is rigged if they don't, and doubled-down on Trump refusing to accept the results and peacefully transitioning. So what if Hillary said Biden should never concede? No one gives a shit about Hillary, which is why she lost the election to the steaming pile of dogshit that is Trump. She is trying to stay relevant with controversial statements. It has nothing to do with the current election. Trump, who is actually in the election, is refusing to accept the results if he loses, which is the issue at hand - not what some washed up loser has to say.

It is a bold-faced lie to say the Democrats never accepted the results of Trump's election. If that were true, Obama would have tried to hold onto power and refused to leave, as Trump is trying to do now. So some people are mean to Trump, boo hoo, and they are conducting investigations into his extremely obvious flagrant corruption. Do you forget the 8 years of absolute vile thrown at Obama from the Republicans? Where McConnell didn't care about the betterment of America or fixing the economy or anything decent, but rather flat out stated "the single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president." - yeah, that is so respectful. If you think it was fair to impeach Clinton for getting a BJ in office, then it is fair to impeach Trump for refusing aid to a foreign ally unless they committed to attacking his political rival. You may think they were hoax or sham investigations, but maybe if Trump didn't block all subpoenas, seal all records, and the Republicans didn't block witnesses and refuse to actually have a hearing - we'd actually get to the truth of the matter rather than letting Trump and his "best people" continually destroy this country for personal gain.

Finally, the Charlottesville issue is not a hoax. It is not a "hit piece" from The Atlantic. The video is there for all to see. He said there were "very fine people" on both sides. There were neo-Nazis marching in the street chanting "Jews will not replace us" and one killed a woman in a hit-and-run. When asked about this, Trump basically ignored it and said well people didn't put themselves down as Nazis they just didn't want a Confederate monument replaced, and took the time to condemn the counter-protesters. Trump blamed the counter-protesters for starting violence, even though all evidence shows the Nazis were the ones being violent. Yes, at one point he did say "and I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists, because they should be condemned totally" but then went back to making a case for the "Jews will not replace out" crowd being innocent protesters. That was not the time to pussy-foot around the issue and try to please everyone and be civil, it was the time to unabashedly condemn white supremacists with no other footnotes. Of course, as with everything else Trump thinks about himself, he claimed he answered the question "perfectly". When asked about why it took 48 hours to make a statement condemning the neo-Nazis, Trump said "before I make a statement, I need the facts. So I don't want to rush into a statement" which is convenient when the issue deals with white supremacists, but when it is against left-wing groups he has no problem rushing to Twitter or the podium to spew out hatred before any facts have actually come out. I wonder why he has yet to apologize for running an ad asking for the death penalty on the Central Park 5, who were exonerated.