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Is it Too Late to Save the American Experiment?

After watching the media backlash to very prominent liberal authors, professors, and speakers decry cancel culture, the public's acceptance of some pretty dodgy evidence that their designer face masks can protect them from a "killer virus", and the anger at "free speech Karens" I realized that America has lost its ability to use logic and reason. I don't think America's civil liberties can be saved without mass protests that are also "scary" in the opposite direction BUT I want to hear what you think.

Can America Be Saved?

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ThomasinaPaine 7 July 14
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I think it would take another Great Awakening.

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Western culture has a "Progressive" sickness that will be fatal if unchecked.
If we don't recover control of our institutions of Education/science... it will just continue to get worse, as they send successive waves of reinforcements into the culture, industry, entertainment, journalism, etc., etc.
This is why nationalizing education into Government schools is one of the 10 planks of Communism, from the manifesto.
Education should be controlled/managed at the local level... maybe the County. Any further centralization and the parents begin to lose control over what the State is doing to their children.

rway Level 7 July 15, 2020
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We all knew that America and Western Civilisation would one day fall.
I am just surprised that it is happening so quikly right now.

Hanno Level 8 July 15, 2020
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  1. A woman was murdered for saying "All Lives Matter" and only fringe right wing publications mentioned it.
  2. We're forced to wear masks that honestly can only stop spit in some bizarre mass placebo and no one cared
  3. People took over whole sections of cities--treason when right wingers did it--and the media covered for them with no one facing charges
  4. Looting and riots without arrests
  5. Defunding police departments by politicians while hiring private security for themselves
    6.Defacing public property without debate (no arrests)
  6. The only people getting arrested are people who defended themselves or their property
  7. Media now agrees with literal book burning
  8. It is a crime in many states to not allow someone who self-IDs into women's sex segrated spaces, regardless of any attempts to transition
  9. It is now acceptable to call the cops on your neighbors for not wearing bandannas on their face in summer
  10. Epstein did not commit suicide.

This is in addition to all of the other rights we've lost since the Patriot Act

#1. And the n-word, according to those right-wing publications. Sure it doesn't mean she should have been murdered, but it does mean you probably should drop any mention of what she said.

#2. You can do what you want--in public.

#3. No one was indicted for treason.

#4. There were arrests.

#5. OH such hypocrites. But have they really meaningfully defunded?

#6. Nope.

#7. LOL.

#8. Since when were there laws about who could go in what bathrooms? I mean before the right's bathroom bills.

#9. That's still Karenism.

#10. OK, I'll give you that one.

@WilyRickWiles

  1. Agree with you that there were more than what was reported... however no justification for murder.
  2. No you can’t.... if the public has been brainwashed into believing it you are forced, even if not by armed policeman, but by social pressure.
  3. I think he/she may have used hyperbole.
  4. I thought they were peaceful protests? The actual arrest rate is extremely low.
  5. I Think she meant the intent... in Minneapolis it is meaningful
  6. They were not arrested but they were searched and guns removed and all indications are that prosecutors are looking for reasons to prosecute... when they committed no crime.
  7. There were several media reports that not only statues, but also libraries are racist and must be destroyed and rebuilt. They act of book burning was referenced in the media as a possible option. I remember it because it reminded me of religion nuts in the 60’s.

I’m amazed with point #7, that people have reverted to the old fashioned fascist book burning. I often think, in a few years, these mobs will be burning Bronzino's and Botticelli's on the steps of the Met.

@WilyRickWiles Um I though you admitted elsewhere you got that wrong re the n-word you know that word n's can say but the rest of you are afraid to over there..... tsk, tsk, tsk....

@Lightman Her group was attacked because they said the n-word... Glad to see where you stand!

@WilyRickWiles She could have said the N word 20x and words are not an excuse for murder. The fact that you mentioned it was some bizarre rationalization that really is contemptuous. Maybe pray or meditate my friend. When we excuse the inexcusable it's our own souls we should worry about.

@WilyRickWiles A woman murdered by men. The excuse "she said a mean word" and you're literally arguing this with people like it is a justification.

Did you watch the video? Be honest with yourself. You don't even have to be honest with me.

I don't make excuses for the cop that killed George Floyd. I can't believe you're trying to make excuses for this. Or maybe I can believe it. I'm just not that cult-is anymore.

@WilyRickWiles

They argued with another group after one of the people Whitaker was with used a racial slur, her bereaved fiancé, Jose Ramirez, told WXIN.
A racially charged confrontation ensued with the other group, during which the suspect’s group shouted, “Black Lives Matter,” and someone in Whitaker’s group — possibly her — said, “all lives matter,” Ramirez said.

The white woman's POC boyfriend said she didn't say it, the people around her did. So do with that what you want.

@WilyRickWiles Again, ask any medical doctor do the cloth masks work. They will tell you "no". This is a mass placebo that was not worth the loss of liberty.

@WilyRickWiles The left called it treason at the time. That was the first time I started to disagree with the left because earlier we had stood with the Navaho for doing the same thing. They cheered his death and now they applaud those same takeovers as a "summer of love"...that killed a bunch of minorities.

@ThomasinaPaine "A woman murdered by men. The excuse "she said a mean word" and you're literally arguing this with people like it is a justification."

Taking issue with your argument. Remember, I said "it doesn't mean she should have been murdered."

"I don't make excuses for the cop that killed George Floyd."

You're getting there!

@WilyRickWiles Yes, and threats of violence to go with it. In the 90s the right came for her because of witchcraft in the 2020s they burn her books for personal statements on biological sex. I'd bring up the list like To Kill A Mockingbird, Huck Finn, and others but you are returning with bullshit comments and "lols" so I'll save the energy for people willing to honestly engage. No more for you and I until you want to have an actual and intellectually honest discussion.

@WilyRickWiles you said she said it.... why should anyone be killed for saying single word... why are people like you frightened to say it they say it ll the time... they even sing it s I have posted elsewhere. that is racial discrimination

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I think the American experiment can still be salvaged, but it will take great courage, personal sacrifice, and a dogged determination to keep fighting hard no matter how hopeless it looks. It will also take time, and therefore, endurance.

Just look at the story behind the National Anthem! So long as the USA has patriots of that caliber fighting for it, there is hope!

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Trump 2020.

Xtra Level 8 July 15, 2020
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I say this as someone who is an optimist: sadly, neither protests nor politicians can stop the headlong rush of the USA into a more and more authoritarian form of socialism. AOC and the squad are the face of the future.

Woke-progressives have brilliantly stoked and harnessed outrage around race, gender, class and the environment and they play the public like a fiddle. They have wormed their way deeply into academia, culture & entertainment, the corporate sector and politics. They have embedded their victim dogma in millions of regulations, charters, mission statements, value propositions, bylaws, public policies and legislation. They are securely in control, and it would take generations to root out them and their policies.

Roughly half the country — people who live in the most affluent, safest and freest nation on earth — have been convinced they live in a hateful wasteland. In what can only be described as a cultural suicide, America’s own citizens have succeeded where America’s worst enemies have always failed.

GeeMac Level 8 July 14, 2020

I live in hope that like in Australia there is a silent majority in America.

As you are an American Il forgive you for Painting America as being a bit better than it actually is. 🙂

America and the West in general remind me of me of the latter days of the Roman Empire., which was killed by the rot and corruption within rather than the Barbarians at the gate.

Why not join the "Support Slug the Free Speech Site" Group .We are trying to increase SLUG membership so SLUG has more influence/clout.

@Thasaidon I’m a patriotic Canadian but also a believer in American and Western exceptionalism. Checking out the site, thanks.

@GeeMac My Abject apologies for my unwarranted assumption.

When I hear a north american accent I always ask if the person is Canadian. Canadians love me for it and if they are American, I enjoy winding them up a little. 🙂

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Yes, you need to vote in different people... but..... the parties need to choose better candidates.
They need better policy platforms too.

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