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It has occurred to me, there are some who believe the only way to peace is violence and chaos. I believe, in order to experience peace, I have to become peaceful. In other words, become what I choose to experience. The left doesn't seem to know that.
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PamelaSteele 7 June 28
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I dunno, I'm a Bible guy, so it could be argued there cannot be peace without the lord. on your own, you have to constantly be worried about your environment. for instance the quote, we labor that we may have leisure, assumes that what you are doing is working, that your labors are safe from theft/destruction and that the fruits of your labors will outweigh the work to afford you the leisure you are seeking. these are all things that could keep you up at night and peace will not be had. if you know that those things are handled by one greater than you, you can rest easy.

solopro Level 6 June 29, 2020
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The thing is with sites like this one, Bitchute and others is they turn into a place where they Right-Wingers come to stroke each others ego's and agree on everything. Mis defining the "Left", conflating Socialism with Communism and all agreeing with each other. The world has moved on and left these antiquated ideals behind. The Right-Wing is an ever shrinking section of society. Catch up or go extinct.

I disagree. Studying history has shown where the socialist movement of the left is the precursor to Marxism and dictatorship. Socialism was Nazi Germany and is Venezuela today. The right isn't shrinking. From what I've seen over the last few years, the "silent majority" is starting to speak up.
Whereas the majority of the mass media sites get their news from the AP. The AP is owned by Rothchild. And if you check the BLM home site to donate, you'll find it takes you to a secure site named "ActBlue". Check their open information page as to where all donations for the BLM end up. ActBlue has been a gathering source for the Democrats and other socialist movements from the beginning. None of the funds go to helping the black community. They all go to white Democratic politicians.

@PamelaSteele. Excellent research Pamela Steele!

@TimTuolomne, thank you.

@PamelaSteele Citations needed.

@PamelaSteele, @TimTuolomne An example of exactly what my first post stated. "where the Right come to agree with each other".

@PamelaSteele [factcheck.org]

Actblue charges a handling fee of 3.9%. It makes setting up a charity of any stripe simple. Donations don't go directly to Actblue. You conflate Fascism,Marxism,communism and socialism, a common trait with Right-Wingers. The republicans pass socialist policies without batting an eyelid.The Blair government(Labour) was socialist as are many others apart from the outliers you mention.

@maxmaccc Did you read the recipient's list?

@PamelaSteele Yes. Did you google the list of socialist governments worldwide? If so, you only included the ones that suited your narrative in your post. If truth is what matters, then a less bias approach would be proper.

@PamelaSteele, @TimTuolomne How do you know if you haven't double checked? Mutual ego stroking as i referred to in my first post.
Try forming your own opinions.

@maxmaccc I have and I do.

@maxmaccc, Confirmation bias. I try not to engage in discussion with anyone with whom I am unlikely to learn anything. I am hearing a bunch of jargon from you, accusations without proof, and not much that is true or interesting. Try making the argument instead of focusing on slandering those making a point.

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“We are busy that we may have leisure, and make war that we may live in peace.” - Aristotle. Book X, 1177.b4

The Left always believes violence is the answer, and only stops because everyone dies in the war they make - including them. Then the new generation of Leftists takes up the banner because they are either ignorant of history, or arrogantly convinced that they are the ones who know how to do it right, and history repeats itself.

Those of us who have more mature values CAN stalemate them. We MUST contact our Representatives and Governors and tell them we've had it with the unilateral challenges to Constitutional rights - including draconian measures the government has not proven are justified, therefore are unConstitutional.

Mis-defining the left yet again.

@maxmaccc. Not defining them. Siting history.

Whatever you think they are, violence is their signature throughout history. Every generation promises it will be different and it never is.

From your comments I guess you are part of the latest generation who believes leftists are actually non-violent. In their intentions, no doubt.

But they ALL share the same lack of foresight of what history clearly proves: Their desire to "win" at all costs, means one of the costs eventually is the lives of those who disagree.

@TimTuolomne Is your Aristotle reference what you call "Siting history"?
You mis-define the left as "always believes violence is the answer" and "the new generation of Leftists takes up the banner because they are either ignorant of history, or arrogantly convinced that they are the ones who know how to do it right, and history repeats itself", and yet fail to cite the history you refer to.
Perhaps you should've mentioned some popular "Leftist" warmongers like Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot...Oh wait..They're Extreme right. Perhaps a look back further in history would reveal these violent "Leftists" such as The Conquistadors, The Catholic church backed inquisition or maybe those Witch burners of medieval Europe...oh wait, they're Right-Wingers too. Maybe we should look to modern times then? Putin , Al Baghdadi or that famously "Leftist" Royal family that runs Saudi Arabia.
I'm being facetious, of course.
If you're going to reference these historically violent "Leftists" it would be helpful if you could actually state who they are, otherwise it looks like you're simply making shit up.
On a side note, I'm a sixties baby, The truth is my main motivation. My political and cultural views are wide and varied and are not set in stone.

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A strong defense and the ability and the projected will to use it when necessary is the only way to preserve the peace.
Evil people interpret your ideas as weakness and vulnerability and emboldens them to act

iThink Level 9 June 28, 2020

Yes. All the left has done repeatedly is wreak havoc. All the virtue signaling and rioting do nothing except create anarchy.
When the mob rules, a warlord steps up to repeat what they are fighting against and a dictator is established. Everyone should be praying that the right prevails. Without corporations and big business, there is no economy.
Yes, they are selfish bastards.
But they create the trickle-down effect that allows communities to grow and prosper. Governments do not make money. People with jobs make money and pay taxes that go to the government. That's the only way that governments receive funding.
And to protect that, a strong peace-keeping force is created and maintained that is funded by the government and paid for by the right-wing who work and pay taxes.

@PamelaSteele Regan tried trickle down policy. It failed. Thatcher tried trickle down policy. It failed. Trickle up would be more effective at spreading the wealth. Trickle down tends to make the wealthy richer and the poor/middle class, poorer. Poor/ middle class communities tend to live paycheck to paycheck. That means the money is being circulated right back into communities. You state that Taxes are the only way of funding government. This is false. They also borrow in the form of national debt. The tab is running at several trill in the U.S at the moment and is funded by future generations of taxpayers. The Right-Wing are not the only ones paying tax, in fact, they're the minority. Corporations and the wealthy tend to pay comparatively little tax. That "strong, peace keeping force" you mention has cost a couple of trill to the national debt so far by this administration. As if the U.S needs any more military expenditure the majority of taxpayers can't afford. Trump's fiscal policies will eventually affect the U.S economy negatively, there is a lag between policy implementation and the chickens coming home to roost, so to speak. The next 4 or so years will be telling. If the democrats get in, there's the Right-Wingers excuse for economic downturn as the democrats try to reduce the national debt. If Trump gets another four years, more running up of the national debt, with the GOP complicit. A win, win for the Right.

It also gets used unnecessarily and the U.S is perceived as the greatest threat to peace in the world by the rest.

@maxmaccc. Try reading history instead of getting your facts from CNN.

@TimTuolomne You must be psychic, you read my mind. Thank you.

@TimTuolomne Still waiting for those historical references from you. I hear Fox "News" has an interesting take on history. Could you confirm that?

@TimTuolomne, @PamelaSteele Does that agreement between yourselves feel like a nice, comfortable, warm blanket?

@maxmaccc So far, I've not learned a single fact from your posts or comments. Why are you here?

@PamelaSteele This is what it feels like when someone has a different(and informed) opinion from you. Get used to it.

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