My good will and patience is gone after the death threats to JK Rowling. It should have been when I received my first rape threat for saying "I'm not using cis". I think I was just socialized to be nice. At this point if you don't have a vagina (and this can be one surgically created) I'm not using "woman" and I will never refer to myself as cis again. Over 500k girls in the US have been taken overseas for FGM. One in six of us have faced sexual assault by a man. We are not privileged, cis or otherwise, and I am no longer conceding my language charity.
That's not a trans anything. That's a dude.
The aim of postmodern deconstructionists is to render language meaningless. Stripping the terms “male” and “female” of meaning has been major victory for them.
Sex reassignment surgery has been around for more than half a century and most people aren’t even interested. In addition, Judith Butler is old news, and no one really cares if a woman likes power tools or a man gets off on eye liner.
What’s happening today is different. Woke progressives want individuals with penises to have a legal right of access to rape shelters meant to protect individuals with vaginas. Or a person with a penis to have a right to be housed in institutions meant for people with vaginas. The push toward a non-binary world is a threat to all people with vaginas, the people formerly known as “women”.
As the pictures above so effectively illustrate, the whole charade is just laughable. Someday, historians will look back and ask what we were all smoking.
(For context I am FtM and present entirely male)
The whole culture of trying to force people to see you as you see you contrary to how you present is just bizarre.
When you transition you are asking something of those when prompt them to use your pronouns (especially whilst you're at the beginning of your transition) and use your new name. You have to be understanding in that pronouns aren't REALLY a conscious choice day to day, more of a snap decision we subconsciously make when we speak of people. In order for people to make that snap decision and use your preferred, you need to at the minimum ATTEMPT to fit within that genders societal expectations. Not everyone is going to 'pass', that is understandable, but at least presenting as female is a CLEAR social prompt!
They can present how they want and do what they want, but when people start trying to steam roll over social norms with entitlement and expectation it does more damage to trans people that just want to live quietly.
No. Trans suggests motion from one place/status to another. Someone that just offers some STATEMENT of such isn't.
Now, I know that some people in less public places acknowledge what they can NOT in public, so I have no issues with them and their statement of being trans - but to 'present' as such in public and NOT in a way that indicates some movement towards 'the other', is appropriation in the worst sense of the word.
On the one hand:
It's we must respect their right to call themselves women then they must respect our right to call them men.
On the other hand:
If I ask that you call me Richard but you insist on calling me Dick, then the dick is not I but you.
As someone that is named Richard (Ricardo), I tend to lean with the latter viewpoint. Whatever you want me to call you, I'll call you... doesn't mean that in calling you that I accept that label or any truth implicit or explicit within that label... I accept that I may always be Dick to you but you respect me by not calling me Dick but Richard.
I think common courtesy and respect demands that we put our own pre-conceptions aside such that if you think that all Richards are Dicks, that you respect when a Richard doesn't want to be Dick.
I think the desire to be right ("you are Dick, not Richard!!! Why can't you accept that!?!?!" ) all too often overwhelms our desire to be respectful and congenial ("I've always known Richards as Dick but if you want me to call you Richard, I'll call you Richard)
Let me pretext my answer by stating that I abide by the world health organization, American medical association, an American psychological association's definition of sex and gender. That being that sex is biological, binary, and uses the male and female designation while gender is societal, non-binary, and uses the man, woman, masculine, feminine, among other designations.
With that in mind, two comments about your post:
a trans woman is about behavior and societal expectation. These individuals wish to be seen as women by society insofar far as embracing the feminine and adopting any mores typically associated with the feminine. Looks are not a determining factor in this given that looks are largely determined by biology and thus falls under the moniker of sex, not gender. To deny these male individuals their womanhood would be to deny any female their womanhood just because they don't look like what society expects females to look like.
Because I abide by the above definition I would argue that conflating male and man as you have when you wrote "man/male" serves to conflate the issue given that man is gender and male is sex and they are not equivalent even if they are historically interrelated. Evidence of the problems with this conflation is that, "presenting male" is not something we choose to present or not... Is strictly biological and out of our control. Thus if the individuals in these pictures were born male, they will always "present male" biologically regardless but they have a choice as to whether they project themselves as a man or a woman socially.
If the only requirement to be a woman is to "identify as a woman", then everyone could potentially be a woman. The word loses all its meaning. They can call themselves whatever they want, but it is very disrespectful to both biological women and actual transsexuals.
Not a fucking chance in Hell. I mean you're free to do whatever you want, just don't expect us to 100% follow along with your train of thought.
Don't get me wrong I have a Navy buddy of mine who made the transition (only recently found out about it) and I absolutely respect her wishes and refer to her as such..........but she DID do the whole shbang.
That right there above?
Um, yeah no........sorry but nooooooooooo.
Trans people. Do everything in their power to live their truth. I don’t believe this person is doing that. It’s takes away from the struggles of people that are trans and almost seems like a ploy that if you seem less of a threat because you claim your trans. I don’t know what point in the process the person pictured considers them selves as trans.
I don't think they should because it is unfair on society to visually present yourself as male and then be offended when people assume that you are male. Until we invent a device that can tell us when to assume and when not to assume a person's gender based on their looks, all persons should make an effort to accurately express their gender so as not to confuse others.
Who am I to question someone's gender identity? If they want to identify as trans women, that is their right. As Middle Way already stated, it doesn't matter that they present as masculine, as some cis women present as masculine, and that doesn't make them any less women. I know women with facial hair who were born women, identify as women, and are heterosexual.
The pics you specifically posted look like they are from a dating app. Would you not want to know how someone identifies while deciding if you want to date them? And what if they just present as masculine currently, but have plans to go through HRT or surgery to present as more feminine later on... would you not want to know that before committing to a relationship?
I will say, 9 times out of 10, even if these people identify as trans women, since they present as masculine they will still go into the men's bathroom, in case you were wondering.
Should they the two people pictured call themselves trans women without any effort to appear as women ?, My question is would anyone meeting them for the first time think that they where women , I don't think so, but they can call themselves whatever they like just don't mess with me.
I think one of the most telling signs here of all this insanity is that “trans women” or those masking as trans women are the ones begging to be in women spaces, I don’t see trans men up in arms about this stuff because I guess they too would still rather hang in lesbian spaces. Point here is that women’s spaces & rights are the ones being imposed upon by men as usual. It’s beautiful to be a woman and as a lesbian these photos are not what I’m looking for by any stretch of the imagination. Seems like incels & some true mental health.