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Does this sound agreeable to you thinking about porn Arielle? I was commenting this elsewhere, but it should tell you something about what porn it really should be to girls I think. I don't know how exactly to answer that, I don't feel strongly for or against any of those things, not that it doesn't matter though, there is good porn and bad porn, porn is just porn though, it's bad and should be illegal, just for the fact that it's so bad that it is still so good and that's why people take it so extremely out of context sometimes, but I do like porn, excuse me I meant to say, I do like porn a lot, like not that I think or don't think porn is bad or good, which is why that if allowed then I would make porn and want to make it just for that very reason alone, I feel so strongly, about porn, that, even if it was all bad I would still be trying to tell people that it isn't really all that bad, like it's not really all that bad, and then I would only be able to do that by making porn myself because otherwise people just think that porn is porn or because it's something that people do like then it must be a bad thing.

I'll be honest with you, I don't think that porn is having the effect that people say thinking that it does really. Like, they say porn is bad because it teaches men that they should have unreasonable ideas of women, untrue, porn is supposed to be porn, and when something is supposed to be something, then it's basically a fantasy, it is as it happens to be only a fantasy until it becomes true, but porn is supposed to be a fantasy, it's not just sex, like even if they saying it's bad wanted to say it's sex and that should be between lovers, it's still just sex then, so if it's meant to be both porn and a fantas which is what porn is, then it's not teaching men anything, even though it might if you chose to see it that way, but it doesn't though, I mean it's not lovers it's just sex, and even if it did, I still think that's a real healthy thing for men to believe or even to think anyways, so because then it explains why porn is a good thing in the first place, if men didn't fantasize about women, then they wouldn't be having sex willingly with girls would they, and just because it might be true that it sexualized women, it's still not a good thing to think porn is even so bad at all, something said to be bad only if anything just because it is possible to say if it anything, is not a good enough reason to say which or whichever is bad or good, so, not just women should be saying that's bad, but if they did think that then it should be alright, because, women can have the same fantasies about men like in porn having sex with them, and no one tries to say that women sexualized men by thinking that men would only want to have sex with them in their fantasies. This is how you have a healthy sexuality, it's when you have a good sexuality yourself first and then you make the distinction between what is and what is not. If you don't, then what you probably shouldn't be doing is trying to say to others they have a bad idea of sexuality. It's art, and I think that girls should do it, if nothing else but to be curious about it just to do it. I would totally make porn if I could even if being a girl just to show people how good porn is at teaching you about just how to be a woman, it's not God damn nasty, disgusting dumpster sex because it just happens to be sex, it should be art.

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porn is meant to turn people on. i don't think it's meant to teach people how to have sex. i constantly tell my audience that. haha

I or for me, I don't really have anyone specifically that I would tell anything about sex, and I'm pretty much saying that as both a boy and a girl, more speaking that specifically even if I was just one girl, then I still wouldn't be having there be anyone that to tell that to either, but I have the idea that I would developed about that sex that and that word, I consider it to be like in a general sense. But if I were to be telling it to anyone just what I think about just that, then I could say myself that if I were a boy then I would be just thinking that it was more of a learning thing, it's not that I know that because I learned I was a chic, I did actually start out like having to learn about girls, I mean either to be a girl, a boy would have been doing that, so it was both to me like that both like either that I might be a girl or boy I would already be thinking being a boy that sex to me would be for learning about what sex is and actually learning what sex is to girls, it wouldn't mean I was just a right boy about sex, it's just to me it is like a thing that I would have to learn, that's only the reason is that I would already know being a boy, the actual but what I would know being a boy is that if I was a girl, then I would think sex was something that should be learned right, not saying that it can just be for only boys and girls that they should learn, I'm just saying, it would matter at the least that that might be either a boy or girl that would know it. I being a girl see it as like it's not just a thing that has to be learned but if it was then I would know that there may be a reason at the least that I might think that it's not just a thing to be learned but I would feel much better about it being a girl and knowing that someone has, so technically I can't even say, being either a boy or a girl, if there was a better boy or girl out there than me for me, then I probably wouldn't be the best boy or girl, that would know this just because I would know this. The only idea that I have is that of being a boy but having to learn about girls, I don't know, maybe I did learn that somewhere. It doesn't really matter to me, a boy would know something like that.

But if I'm gonna tell what my meaning of sex is is to someone else, then me just being me right now I would think that it doesn't really have to be a learning thing. Maybe though but maybe it would be if it is better to be learned by someone who doesn't know what they're doing, that's what I would be thinking if I was a girl. Nudge, nudge, wink, bump, niche, niche, egg plant emoji. Sorry, for a moment there I had to do that. Do you want to know why I would be a boy and what I would think, I would think just as me right now, that sex to me would be this that if you are a person then that means that there may be a limit to what you can actually know being a person, then even if you were the worst at what's in your in your limit, then the other part of you that does make you be you, the part that would know what sex is even to you even having to be learned it could help a person if what they know that is that their limited knowledge is actually really bad, I would just think that what I would have learned being a boy wouldn't be that bad and didn't make me the worse, and that's why that if I being a boy, then that's just would think. Maybe I'm just a really bad guy to know this or maybe I'm just a girl that doesn't even know, but I would think just if someone learned sex to learn sex that if it was me, and I would have to be the one to know, then, it would probably a very much better way more better for everyone else if I were to learn it, that's just what I would think. If that's what I would say being a boy, then I'm just gonna goe with that. Hmmm, maybe that's why it would be better to be a boy then and should have to learn it too. The reason that I said that it could be to teach people is because just that I thought about that for the idea of sex and it wasn't just for porn either. It's like, not even porn to me, it's just basically sex, that's why I would say that if porn is something that is still so bad to even a good person who doesn't already know a lot about sex at all, then I would say maybe sex should be, but except for me I thinks totally the same thing, not because I think that it is porn or just sex, I would think that it would be porn, because I know what I would be in such a case, I would be a boy because then I would know. That's why I know this. It just so happens that I would think that being a boy if I was making a porno, then I would be making a porno with a girl, and it wouldn't just be for educational purposes, no, if I'm gonna make a porn then I'm doing it to make a porn. The only way that's not educational to me though, is would be if just I just wasn't a girl, that would be probably at least better to know right? That, that is porn to me. Sex was totally something else to me though, because that I would know being a girl, you know not that I've ever been a girl to make a porno or anything. Because if I am going to if I am going to have sex, then I'm gonna have sex, it's not porn is sex, I'm gonna be having the sex, and the sex would be porn, especially if I was a a chic. If it was sex, then yeah I would think being me that it was for education, but if it was porn then I wouldn't because then I would know what sex is. If I wasn't a boy that just thought I have to think that porn is what everyone likes because everyone like porn, then yeah I probably would be a boy to think that porn can be used for educational purposes, I am a girl and it is was also that I am a girl in a boy's body, and I would know that if I was actually a boy, then it would be for educational purposes. I'm not a boy, that's not just something that I would happen to think because I am a girl, it's not that I think that though, that's just what I would be thinking if I were a boy that I would be a boy thinking that porn might actually be for education, but I'm not a boy so I wouldn't think that. If I had to teach sex to a girl though, just if I ever had to, then porn is probably the best way to to it if it was for educational purposes. And that's why I think that I myself would think of saying that porn might just be for education. It just so happens that, sex would be better probably to me even I were a man, if, I learned what porn is, and porn might just be better to me too if I learned what sex is, it's just a coincidence to me that learning it would be best way to know even if you didn't already know what sex and porn was, so, so that's why that I would be a girl and be thinking that porn might just be what someone has to learn in order to if they didn't know already what either sex or porn was at all even. Just thought that I should let you know that. If I was a girl like you, then like a girl like you not actually you, I would be able to tell people that porn shouldn't be used to teach, porn isn't, you're right, people are just so stupid about sex they would actually think porn is sex, just because they would only think they knew what sex was. And I'm not a boy that would ever need to tell that to a girl, like really, I wouldn't, because if I was a boy, it's not that I think it helps girls learn, it's, that I would hope a girl would know what porn is, because I would be a boy and I would. That's the only reason I thought about telling you this. Like I would say porn is for learning, but really also like that's not something that I would say. If I was a girl and I knew what all that was, then, then I wouldn't be saying yes people learn it, because I would be already knowing what porn and sex is, I think that all humans have sex which is part of everything that could exist to some kind of other creatures, but it's because it's part of everything that it would be a part of all humans no matter what they were, and because it is, that means that they would know what porn is then, not either because of sex though, it would just be porn because it is sex to them, so it's not really something that could ever serve as education even for educational purposes, the only way that I would say that it is, is that if there really was a person that didn't already know what either porn and sex was, only if I was a girl, because then I could say yes I am a girl and this is what porn is to them, that's what I'm saying, I wouldn't call just porn education, but it would be though like even if I was just a girl. You know what I'm saying? I get why that you would say that, that it's not supposed to teach about sex. Oh yeah and I'm saying it should be art because then because then people could actually learn about it, specifically that it is art, and that's exactly what it is to me too. Beside just being, a girl, that's what I would think, although, you know, sex and porn to a girl being a girl is just it's whatever sex and and porn just happens to be though, that's just but what I would think, that it should be art education if nothing else than that. That's what I'm saying. I can watch a girl make a masterpiece if that's what you want to call it that, he he. Oh yeah, and what people should call this stuff is art, almost forgot about that. Yeah that's what I think. And to be very clearly honest with you, I wouldn't like to be probably having to teaching a girl anyway. That's just just, I'd rather not. So, I get it, Yeah I do get it.

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I agree with you that porn isn't a terrible thing. It's just a fantasy and fantasy can be healthy and good for a person.

Blaming porn for the problems in society is like blaming money for the problems in society. Money might be involved in many of the big problems in society, but that doesn't mean money itself is the root of the problem. Doing away with money would not solve any of those problems! That's how I think of pornography. Getting rid of it or banning it won't solve the problems in society or in relationships that people associate with porn.

I also want to add that in my opinion, women enjoy forms of pornography as much as men do. I think the female brain wants more of a story and an emotional investment, so women gravitate more towards written erotica, like Harlequin novels. The male orgasm is more based on something visual or physical, so men gravitate towards magazines or videos. The female orgasm takes more time and can be more psychological, which is why they want a longer story with emotional investment. But the end result is honestly the same. It's an erotic thrill.

I wanted to mention that because I think that people neglect to consider romance stories to be a form of "porn." But in my opinion, it's hitting the same buttons in the female brain as porn hits in the male brain. Why should one form be considered filthy and the other acceptable?

Yeah, you're so right, I thought about that too! Erotica and porn. So true. That is a great investment into the conversation. So not to try to sound like like I'm critiquing or supporting here, I just have something to add to that in my opinion. So girls sexual pleasure and man's, they're kind of the same, not like exactly the same but the same just different methods to the end result, it's not right to think that men and women just have are different just because their sexual satisfaction isn't, women's is like how they describe a circular that repeats itself, and men's is like how they say too, a rise peaking and then falling, but that's not really what describes the process that's just imagery in order to see it, it doesn't actually describe anything at all about satisfaction, I believe that all things are the opposite in the world, like if someone were to ever tell me this is how it is like they are trying to tell me saying that's the truth, I won't believe them for that reason and I will believe that's opposite of what they say, I think that women's sexuality is the opposite of a circle it's like a man's and man's is like the circle actually, it explains so much, that's the way it is but it seems like that so it seems like it's the other way around when it's not, a man, when they have a bad experience, they instantly logically tell themselves well that was so bad I'm not ever doing that again, it's because the man is thinking not that whether or not that's good or bad, they're thinking about how fucked up it is, whereas women, they would do the same thing but really do ask whether it's actually good or bad to themselves, and so they won't even be thinking later how they hated it, they're asking themselves now like then if I do this will it satisfy, women do that, that sounds kind of I don't know stupid, I'm saying that they can have and do peak like boy's do, it just would only be if they are satisfied and then it starts over though, it's boys that really have a circular process, when boys seek to be satisfied, there can only be one outcome, and boys don't just do it stop and ask themselves is this enjoyable, it just would only be true though that they will have been satisfied only if they have peaked. Since boys have it circular, that's why they can keep going, because no matter if it was satisfying, they can only be satisfied if they do, and so that's why they can keep doing it no matter if it was good or not. Since girls are the same way, but it would seem their's is circular, satisfaction can only exist for girls, if, they were seeking and wanting it. It kind of isn't right that people say what boy's sexuality is like, because people shouldn't be at all, boys can not have sex or pleasure themselves and then still be one or the other, if someone were to label it, then it would mean nothing, and then you really couldn't tell the difference between boys and girls, because the only ever one way anyone would have ever said or even ever known boy's peak when they are satisfied, would have been if you did know a boy already that was already having sex, but just because a boy isn't having sex, it doesn't just mean they can't be satisfied or that they are unable to be just also by themselves too, and that's exactly where the difference begins between boys and girls, you either are or not a girl that either is or isn't actually satisfied, or you are a boy that would have either been one or the other only by being satisfied or not. If girl's was circular, then they wouldn't be continuing to have sex with men every other time it happened or did happen to be good in the first place, because what's the point in being satisfied being a woman if you're only reason to be at all is just to only do it just to be satisfied, there wouldn't be any, that's why it seems only seeming to be that for women they may seem to be able to only be satisfied if they are the ones looking and seeking that kind of satisfying satisfaction, in other words, that means, they don't read erotica just to be satisfied or because they happen to like it, they aren't seeking and looking for it, but like a boy, they are aware that the only way for girls to be satisfied no matter if they would be, is to look and seek pleasure that is their satisfaction, erotica on the other hand, it's not just good or bad to women, it only is still true that it either is or it either isn't, so even that sounds like a stupid reason to read a porn novel, but hey, that's why girls, can't be satisfied, or I mean, never stops reading and keeps on reading only wanting pleasure more and more, it makes sense.

@caseyxsharp Sorry, it's hard to pick out your meaning when you use a lot of words at once like this. In written conversation, it's easier to make one point at a time in succinct language and then move on to the next point. I get that you're probably trying to work out your ideas by writing them down, but that makes it hard for another person to read and respond to.

I'm not sure if I have an opinion about "circular" vs. "peak and fall." I've never really heard that argument before and I don't quite understand it. I don't think those theories would have an affect on what I said above, at any rate. It's true that women gravitate to written erotica and men gravitate towards porn videos and magazines.

Whether male or female, I think satisfaction is gained from porn. That's why it exists. People like it and want it. But like food or drink, you can't be satisfied forever by just partaking once. Your hunger for it returns after a while and you seek it out again. I think that's true, no matter the gender.

@RavenMStark I was talking that the effects of men and women being similar that, that is what's effecting how they view and select not just who but what they see as lustfulness, but at the same time they do also see attraction as something related to lustfulness and it's true that they also don't care to see that they do or not consider how lustful of their attraction. It is something that no matter who or what whether you are trans, otherwise, male or female they would all feel the effects of this, no matter what they e because it is has the same effects as sex does on a person and not just that they want what they would not they still would want what you were mentioning about that the satisfaction of porn, unrelated to what they lust for too, the lustfulness is there but at the same time they still don't even just want the just the same thing as they lust for. So here I'll ask you this, are you biologically a male but identify as a female, this wouldn't just effect just me or either you but everyone, kind of like how you would say that being a male is still the same thing as being a female and also wanting something, the difference would be that girls wouldn't be thinking about this as much as men, however I'm not saying that women not or so would effect how much they do, the differences between males and females would disappear between being a male and being a female even for the male, the difference, not the reason or what they lust for compared to being lustful for being in love with lustfulness just only if they were to be lustful for what they want to lust for just because of sex, in other words, women would be able to know that being male they could know what a boy would lust and be lustful for, don't you see those two things are unrelated whether to boys or girls? And yet, neither boys or girls even would care about whether they were the same thing or not, what makes them different is that the actual method of the form of the process that they make when they don't have any care to see that both what they lust and lust for would be what they see they want their lustfulness to be. it's not that it does or doesn't effect them or everyone at the same time, but that would effect someone who was in real live time, just be being whether they were. Like it wouldn't, even matter. But the method is different, only girls would know it, and boys think they would know it, but somehow these two things seem to be seen by both genders as being what makes them co-exist with each other, it's because because and girls would be together in the sense of close enough proximity. But in reality, inside that live time. time as being one of the actual beings of the being a boy or girl, it still doesn't I would say wouldn't just be about that what they wouldn't care about anyways, because boys think they know what they want, they would already be thinking about it. A girl would have to know and be like boys they would want both want to lust for the same thing, no matter if one was a boy or one was a girl, like right now you're claiming that you do identify as male correct, then here's what I mean, you would know already right now that you know what it is that you lust for the same way that a woman would, and you would already be thinking that since if being a boy that you did lust for that because you were the one that really wanted it being what it was simply just was what you just do lust for, for a girl, that is like, she wouldn't just know that just because she was a girl, I think that boys and girls no mater who being that if they wanted to live together that it doesn't matter if they do or don't lust for the same thing or not, because, they are both effected would be able to lust for the same thing, whether one or each other did ever lust for same thing, even when they want to because they are still able to lust for the same thing actually real sex. It's something so simply that even a girl can understand that. Like even it is because she is just a girl. It doesn't mean that if what would a girl lust for compared to what a boy would, that a girl even would, but that's why that only a girl would even know what that is. So that means that because what you are not just what you would be happening to be being either a boy or girl, it that means that, then both boys and girls being boys and girls would know what it is each other actually does consider what they lust for is even what they lust for or if only being just as boy or girl. You get kind of what I'm saying? I know that wasn't that such an easy thing to say all that. I don't know what I was saying, but I hope that you might have gotten an idea. When I say can lust for the same thing, I mean just like that, girls like erotica and boys like real porn, if you were a boy, doesn't matter, if you to be a boy then can't you say if you can't pick up a porn comic book and enjoy it whether it's a girl thing or not, it's not just being a boy, and it's not just like that girls can just did lust for the same thing as boys, however but they can do something like be lustful even when what they lust for isn't and still lust for maybe something completely different than what boys ever could at all the same time. What you be wouldn't matter, because boys and girls can lust for the same thing, not just if boys think that's just lustful. It's not just that a girl would know that eve, a girl would know that, because a girl would know. Do you get what I'm saying?

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