Thought: Anyone else notice how it is pretty much always bisexuals/pansexuals telling homosexuals and heterosexuals to base their attraction on gender identity, rather than sex characteristics? These people will never understand binary attractions because they've never experienced it. It's not biphobic to say this, which unfortunately (in the current LGBT community) people will think it is. People are always told to stop "speaking over trans people", because we'll never understand what it's like to be trans. These are the same people speaking over straight/gay people, telling THEM how their attraction works. Another example as to how the toxic LGBT community cares more about the T than the rest. I'm a gay man. I'm homosexual. I'm attracted to male sex characteristics. People always say this is transphobic, but I see it as the exact opposite. It's saying I can still be attracted to trans guys if they have male characteristics. It also proves genital preferences are NOT transphobic, since genitals are sex characteristics.
I'm bisexual and you're right. I don't get being attracted to binary sex. That is not phobic in any way for you to say that! What a lot of people don't seem to get is that I wouldn't date some toxic, phobic extremist because they're a toxic, phobic extremist who has a garbage personality and needs to CONSTANTLY be a "valid" victim.
I absolutely support same sex attraction, and straight attraction. I'm married to a straight man. It is awful to try to control who people are attracted to. It's getting to the conversion camp point all over again.
So I'm bisexual myself and I'm only attracted to males and females whose primary sex characteristics match their secondary sex characteristics. For example, I wouldn't be attracted to someone who has breasts and a penis. Or someone with facial hair, no breasts, and a vagina.
That isn't to say that I think people with bodies like these are ugly or disgusting, I just wouldn't be interested in having sex with them. Since I don't know what someone's genitals are right away, I can easily see someone who looks typically male or female otherwise as attractive. But when pants are off, if they don't have typical male primary and secondary sex characteristics OR typical female primary and secondary sex characteristics, that attraction is gone immediately. And again, I can't stress enough that it's not because bodies that don't meet that criteria gross me out- I'm just not interested in engaging in sexual activity with them. I almost feel guilty for verbalizing this because I don't want anyone to feel bad about their bodies, but I just can't change that about myself.
I totally agree that I will never understand binary attraction like you do, but I would argue that expecting people to base their attraction on gender identity rather than sex characteristics hurts bisexuals just as much as homosexuals and heterosexuals. Can't speak for pansexuals though. I'd like to see someone who is pansexual weigh in here.
No, not bisexuals. TRAs do this. It is homoSEXuality, heteroSEXuality, and biSEXuality as far as sexuality goes. Beyond that it is preferences. Long hair, short hair, black hair, blonde hair, beefcake, lanky, etc.
I don't think actual transsexual people are out there trying to remove agency and choice. It's the new special snowflake gender nonbinary otherkins doing this shit. They took over "Everyday Feminism" and changed the definition of intersectionalism to include everyone who isn't a white male, basically. My suspicion is that this is to introduce pedophiles into the alphabet soup. They changed it to "MAPS" got people like Dan fucking Savage to stan for the gold star nonoffending pedophiles and have physicians saying that it is a sexual preference.
The Jonathan Yanivs are not "trans" IMO they are pedophiles looking for sympathy and if they have to wear ugly wigs to gain access to kids thats what they'll do the same way other pedophiles became priests and school teachers.
I knew so many cool trans people prior to 2013 and then all of a sudden the Danielle Moscatos and Charles Clymers appeared and the community got overrun by these assholes trying to run from sexual assault scandals and gain access to women using the cloak of nonbinary feminism.
I am bisexual but fully agree with you. Although I will never live through being only attracted to men or only to women, my attraction for men and women are such different things, just with some overlap. I like a woman for certain reasons and I like a man for certain other reasons
I’m a transsexual man, I don’t think having genital preference is transphobic at all. It’s something that people can’t help being attracted to. I agree with you that the LGBT has become very toxic, mainly due to the trans community. The trans community has pushed some dangerous narratives. Things like sex is a social construct, there are 97+ genders, and if people aren’t attract to them that makes them transphobic. By trying to push that sex is a social construct they are erasing the experiences of people who were born biologically with the gender they identify as. Also, there are no 97+ genders, there are only 2 (male and female). Some people don’t prefer trans people that don’t have the genitalia they are attracted to that is okay. That doesn’t make you transphobic in the slightest. Don’t listen to the trans community, they are nothing but ignorant bullies that berate people who don’t think they way they think. There are many trans people that aren’t crazy like the trans community that are fighting against all this like Blaire and Buck Angel. Hell, even Arielle has been speaking out about bullshit like that.