What's your thoughts about adding a way for group members to voluntarily send money to the group owner without any fees by us? This is in response to the latest rounds of demonetization at Youtube including Stephen Crowder. Attached is a quick mockup of what we're working on this weekend and hope to have up by mid-next week.
Happy to get your feedback / questions. Thanks!
So not to sound biased, here are two videos with two takes on the issue:
I'm brand new around here, so please forgive any naivete as I may not yet completely understand how groups work. Are you saying this would be a way for users to give Steve Crowder, Ben Shapiro or other big named people money to draw them away from YouTube? Do/would they actually be participating in these groups or is this just about being able to support their time and effort in producing content/videos?
So would those member IDW groups have a sign in sub-access, limited to doner membership & access to additional subscription only material, with IDW platform as a publisher (like YouTube) renumerated to you by those IDW members. Or access to comment on those materials only if you are a doner user. Regular visitors to those groups wouldn't be denied access, just limited interactions in those IDW member groups specifically. Hosts wouldnt handle funds at all, same as any of us, it would just be transferred in name of IDW/donar using registration form.
IDW would be social platform/publisher/and financial manager of IDW member material and sign ups. Sounds like a winner.
I see no reason to go through any 4th party to send money to anyone else. If you want to send money to Crowder why wouldn't you use his gofundme or his Patreon or his paypal account. There is Crowder who needs/wants money - there is you who wants to fund him - there is his paypal...adding that extra layer seems silly. Also that extra "layer" could easily run into problems regarding accountability. I for one would NOT want to be that person who collected funds from well meaning supporters only to be accused (falsely or otherwise) of mishandling the funds.
Why not just use e-transfer from bank accounts? Who is a group owner? I thought the people here were just fans but not property? Also would that mean that the individuals after whom the groups are named would have to become active participants in discussions? Right now all that we do here is post their material but so far I've not seen a single one of them actually engage in discussion.
What if the person for whom a group is named, like Bill Warner, isn't a member of IDW? What then? I don't at all mind collecting and channeling money to him because his program deserves it.
Maybe I'm thinking all wrong and don't understand the issue.
I like it! I would like to see some other payment method, besides PayPal, GoFundMe, or Patreon. Not only do these companies take a cut, but more importantly, they also have an increasing proclivity for closing the accounts of those with views they deem to be "hateful". Mostly, those on the so called far right. For instance, the Tommy Robinson Group that I founded would be unable to donate to him. PayPal closed his account last year.
Perhaps, knowledgeable IDW members can suggest some unbiased alternatives?
I could give you more feedback later on via private message, but I think that's a good idea you have there. Perhaps have more than one way of accepting payments (for example PayPal for your average net user and Coinbase for someone like me who is into cryptocurrencies)?