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Covid-19 Vaccine announcement - timed for election?

First, it's every encouraging news today that Pfizer appears to have an effective vaccine against the Covid-19 virus with potentially 90% effective rate. That's great news for the planet but bad timing for Trump in the election. Just a matter of coincidence or something to make you say, "hmmm"? News: [foxbusiness.com]

Do you think Pfizer's announcement was timed for election impact?

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I'm confused. Do we have a vaccine for the virus or the hoax?

TyKC Level 7 Nov 9, 2020
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The timing is very suspect.

Whether you believe Covid-19 is a deadly pandemic or a hoax, don’t miss the point. Covid was a major factor in the defeat of Donald Trump. Trump was scorned throughout the campaign for his belief that we were “rounding the curve.” The administration’s Project Warp-speed — led by General Gus Perna —was dismissed as crazy talk. Now, Gen. Perna is being lauded for his superhuman efforts, but Warp-speed is being called a “government” effort, and not being credited to the Trump administration.

Strangely, a day after Joe Biden claimed victory, and too late to make Trump look good, 60 Minutes finally recognized the massive professional effort of Project Warp-speed. A day later there were headlines everywhere about the Pfizer vaccine ready to go before year’s end. Of course, during the campaign, when Trump promised a vaccine was pending, the media laughed.

Coincidence? Perhaps. But to me it’s more proof that the mainstream media always had it in for Donald Trump, and they are delighting now in rubbing salt in the wound.

The other side of the story, however, is that today’s big news shows Trump was right about “rounding the curve” all along.

GeeMac Level 8 Nov 9, 2020
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I invested in Pfizer stock, election night. They already had in place a contract with the Gov for 100M vaccines, and just underwent a merger. I believe wholeheartedly this was a timed "release" of data. But, either way it was a win for me. Their stock went up 38% this morning.

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It's the common cold.

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Timed by whom, to impact in what direction?
My understanding is it was part of Trump’s Project Warp Speed to fast-track a vaccine. I’m not too comfy with the idea of a fast-tracked vaccine. I’ll need to be convinced it is safe and effective. At minimum, I’ll wait for FDA approval. Then the first batches are for medical workers anyway. So if they don’t have problems, I’ll soon be in line for mine.

@dd54
I don’t know. I’m thinking I saw a news interview of the man in charge of the project and I thought he spoke of the FDA approval as something in the future. Do you know whether it has happened yet?

@dd54
Thanks.

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I do remember Trump saying a vaccine was just around the corner... but that was a lie right?

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Since those who recover from it can still get re-infected, then no vaccine for it would ever work. Like a vaccine for the common cold would never work. Just keep 5 days' worth of Azythromycin, zinc supplements, half a dozen nebules of Budesonide and a nebulizer handy - just in case - and get on with your life.

What kills you is not the virus itself but your immune response to it (which is why the individual response to the virus is so varied). Those who develop an over-response to it have what is called a "cytokine storm". Your lungs puff up, your larynx inflame, your blood clots like crazy and all of that nasty stuff. Budesonide counters those immune responses. So does HCQ by the way, that is why HCQ is being used for Arthritis and Lupus, both auto-immune conditions. Azythromycin takes care of any secondary infections. Normally Azyth is just once a day for 3 days. But with pneumonia, doctors extend it to 5 days.

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Was this not developed after the US government (Mr Trump I think) president set up operation warp speed to hasten the development of a vaccine in the US ???

Along with some regulatory restrictions being loosened and cash spent, Sound like he was right when he said its almost over after all ???

The_Q Level 7 Nov 9, 2020
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Pfizer had announced human trials at the end of April..announced pairing with some Chinese lab to develop it in March.

Now that's disturbing.

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DONALD TRUMP JR

  • The timing of this is pretty amazing. Nothing nefarious about the timing of this at all right?🙄

[m.huffpost.com]


ANDREW CUOMO

  • “The good news is the vaccine is coming. The bad news is it’s about two months until Joe Biden becomes president"

[rt.com]


TRUMP

  • “STOCK MARKET UP BIG, VACCINE COMING SOON. REPORT 90% EFFECTIVE. SUCH GREAT NEWS!”

BIDEN

  • “I congratulate the brilliant women and men who helped produce this breakthrough and to give us such cause for hope"

[foxnews.com]


So, from what I've read and seen, Trumps "Operation Warp Speed" promised Pfizer $1.95 billion to deliver 100 million vaccines. Pfizer has been reported as having distanced themselves from Trump by stating they didn't receive any federal funding in the development of it. Donald Trump Jr alluded to having suspicions in the timing, and Andrew Cuomo had an interesting reaction that I can't quite make out. I guess he wants to stop distribution until Joe Biden is sworn in? (I really have no clue what to make of that)

Meanwhile, both Trump and Biden have reacted positively about the news.

I'm inclined to view this as positive, of course. 90% effective, is a good start at least, and with the continued testing it looks like it may be ready before the end of the year, which sounds promising.

The timing has been spot wrong this entire year, so I'm actually leaning toward the end of "not a conspiracy", even if Trunp Jr says otherwise. I mean, if it was about timing, I would have revieled a vaccine shortly after Biden got sworn in. This happened while Trump is still the sitting president. I think, regardless how Pfizer wants to distance themselves from Trump, it really has little to do with Trump or Biden. Trump left the work of making a vaccine to doctors and scientists, just as any president would have done... Because Trumps not a doctor, or a scientist.😅

Your trump slamming bullshit aside, what is your,point?

@parsifal I'm unsure how I slammed Trump? I guess my point would be Trumps "Operation Warp Speed" has plans to pay for mass production of the vaccine once it's ready. I don't think it is a conspiracy with the timing. I found Cuomos reaction and interview weird. (Which I was wondering if anyone else found it weird too). Trump and Biden both are reacting positively to the news.

As far as the last part about Trump and Biden not being doctors or scientists, I've been confused in the MSM as far as the way they've put COVID entirely on Trumps shoulders despite the fact that he didn't cause it and has been doing as much as any other president in his position can do. He cut off travel, locked down, put together "Operation Warp Speed", and has been trying to give hope rather than fear.

Most recently in the debates, Harris had made the statement that she wouldn't trust a "Trump vaccine". I find that type of comment confusing considering Trump isn't making the vaccine, he's putting money and resources for the doctors and scientists who are.

I may just not be looking at the way MSM is reporting on this, but it comes off as if this is a "Trump vaccine" vs a "Biden vaccine". I think that the vaccine shouldn't be politicized like that. Maybe I'm misinterpreting it?

@saramarylop3z thank you

@parsifal I just noticed one more thing that may have come off the wrong way. The 🙄 emoji on Trump Jrs tweet was in the tweet itself. Not a reflection as to how I felt about his tweet.

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In an actual pandemic, you aren’t just reading about deaths, and more than just knowing one or maybe two people who have perished - supposedly of COVID-19, of which there are far too many fraudulent diagnoses proven.

A real pandemic is half of your own family and friends dead in January or February.

Think about how you and almost everyone you know have been terrified out of your rational mind by the common cold. Then ask yourself who did that.

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“Encouraging”???? Not really. The FDA just refused to authorize an Alzheimer’s vaccine with far greater potential and efficacy, simply because it wasn’t sufficiently proven safe. The “COVID-19” vaccine is a much bigger shot in the dark.

In addition, for the entire history of humanity, no one ever before proposed a vaccine for COVID (the common cold) because 1. It wasn’t sufficiently dangerous except for those already dying of pre-existing conditions, (just like COVID-19) and 2. Because it was never regarded as remotely possible. What’s different now?? Only the politics of fear manipulation.

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There are several vaccine candidates, this move from Pfizer looks very political, they are one of many. It is both anti Trump and playing into the current political BS news cycle to presents themselves as the main vaccine producer.

I do not think its anti-Trump after-all, Pfizer waited for the election to be over, no matter who won, they would likely jump on a vaccine to take credit.

This vaccine requires cryogenic storage, only mainline hospitals have this. We simply do not have the infrastructure to distribute this widely. It would take several years to distribute. We will need other vaccines not requiring this.

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This is not the only half-baked experimental vaccine still being tested in USA .

There are several biotech labs trying to sell their own vaccine .

The effectiveness of most of them so far is disappointing due to the extreme side effects.

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Someone mentioned. So there is a vaccine with suggested 90% success rate for a virus that has less than 10% mortality rate but they want to make it mandatory vaccination on everyone?

The true mortality rate of healthy people is less than the flu. COVID-19 has a slightly higher mortality rate than the flu for those already suffering one or more life-threatening conditions. Its average of the two is less than an half of a percent - roughly equivalent to the flu.

With more testing, more cases are revealed, not increasing. Deaths are NOT increasing, but they are not reporting mortality of healthy people. You would lynch them for fraudulently locking us down if they did.

Its time to DEMAND of our ELECTED officials that the lockdown ends immediately, or that they will face a recall.

@TimTuolomne Yeah. At least there is attempt to elect one guy in London with that premise. End the lockdown. lockdown is for prisoners after they stabbed each other in prison cafeteria. Actually that is where they got the term "lockdown". That is what the officials think of us, cattle. Well maybe its time we showed them prison in person and convinced them for fraud, unconstitutional abuse of power etc. And if they are linked to "Global Reset" than for treason and corruption conviction. Off course the corruption employs too many people to let it just happened. So I don't know what the course of action is, short of revolution, but lockdown is not about medicine its about control.

Vaccine is also suspicions, since its hard to say who is working with whom and for what agenda.

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paranoid conspiracy theories.

bastion Level 7 Nov 10, 2020
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This is very political and they are only stating the results from a very limited test group which was a sub set of the large group of test subjects. This tends to point to the need to do further investigations and not jump on the band wagon, as it might be the wagon for the dead. One of their earlier tests was pulled for causing more death then the disease, so we will see what the actual outcome is. The scary part is the amount of governments who are pushing for mandated vaccines when that makes no sense at all. If it works like they say then those who don't vaccinate will not be a burden on society for very long. On the other hand if it doesn't and this is just another scam, how many are going to die from it before it is with drawn or the "improved" version is put out on the market.

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NO CCP invasion in big pharmaceutical

Jhonboy Level 4 Dec 15, 2020
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From what I understand, you can get COVID-19 again after about 6 months.
So a vaccine would not be able to give immunity longer than that. And such viruses mutate, so.... it will be difficult.

Of the 7 coronaviruses people can get, there are effective vaccines for none of them.

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I.m stuck on wondering why it would be bad news for President Trump.

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President Trump has been saying the announcement was coming. The timing may not be great for him but this falls way down on the list of things to be concerned about.

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Hmmmm Zelma is a good looking girl...
Now where was I?
Oh yeah... I suppose the question to be asked is... Would this announcement of the vaccine during the election after Trump "predicted" it have changed voting patterns?

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God help us if the left ever designs some bio terror that is really deadly. They murdered 100,000 through the 20th century as it is....

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