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What do we have to say about the ukraine and russian war
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des555 3 Apr 5
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Lots of comments here on that subject.
There are two factions.

  1. Those that follow the "Putin evil" line.
  2. Those that see a bit of incongruity in the west supporting a strong border and Ukrainian nationalists while surrendering national sovereignty in their own nations and keeping an open border policy, as well as condemning any support of nationalism in their own nations.
    There is a third category, I suppose. Those that, due to a lack of real information, don't know and make up all kinds of crap to add to the already great amount of mis- dis- and hiding of information.

It's easy to succumb to the "Putin evil" narrative that the mainstream media pedals. He is a brutal dictator after all. At least he has a vision of making Russia "great again" so he isn't that terrible toward the Russian people. He is not a communist or socialist though. He could be likened more to Pinochet or perhaps Franco than a national socialist dictator. Since the Obama administration the US has done nothing but vilify Russia with the Russia, Russia, Russia/Trump conspiracy theory we heard for 4 years and some people to this day choose to believe it true.

I am in the 2nd category. The globalists are actually to blame for the war. The west in my opinion has given Putin a wink and a nod to go in and take as much as he can, if not all, of Ukraine. Then they arm Ukraine to fight to the last man.

Putin is not in on the west's World government scam. So the object of the war is three fold,
Regime change in Russia is number one. Note when Biden made it slip that "this man cannot remain in power" the White House was quick to vehemently deny any objective of regime change.
Number two, keep Ukraine allied with the west. Zelensky has said as much, as well as Kira Rudik, a Ukrainian MP. While the left in the west contend there is no new world order.

Anyway, I think the Ukrainians are being used by the globalists as cannon fodder. While supporting Ukraine with military artillery they can say they really tried to help them when in fact they hope Ukraine fights to the last man, literally. If Ukraine is successful it makes no difference. they will align with the west and a bunch of neo-nazis will be gone. They could just de-fund the remainder to end any nationalism anyway if it comes down to it.

The third objective of the war is to move into Russia, once Putin is gone, start the cultural breakdown and end any alliance with China.

That's my thoughts on it.

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