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LINK Personality Type, as well as Politics, Predicts Who Shares Fake News - Scientific American

Solid study and fair analysis. Lots of insight into liberal vs. conservative information sharing tendencies. The most important takeaway for me is this however:

In short, we did not find that third-party fact-checker warnings were effective in reducing the spread of misinformation that is especially pronounced among LCCs.

TheMiddleWay 8 Nov 12
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Did @TheMiddleWay just delete every contribution he made to this thread except the Op?

It would appear so. I was just getting here to post a comment to say I hope it would be my last comment on this one and I was going to thank him for bringing the article to my attention, and that I shared it. That it took a lot of courage to actually present it, given the volatile nature of it.

I was going to say, maybe in constructive criticism BUT not criticizing, that maybe put a disclaimer or warning on future ones if possible.

I would say a lesson learned like in the story the boy that cried wolf or don't shoot the messenger BUT then he will be obtuse and dismissive that its not factual but fictional.

Which makes dialogue with him difficult when he constantly makes into a dialectic reasoning which ironically originates from classical Greek stories of philosophy but he falls into Marx Hegelian 'the best defense is a good offense' dialectic studies and behaviour.

I have screen shots, I've dealt with irreparable behavior many times and plenty of experience.

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Using Covid as an example. What about (....damnation), I don't know, Trump/Russia collusion, Kyle Rittenhouse as a white supremacist, Jan 6 was an insurrection? Their choice of topic for analysis is no different than picking 1999 vs 1989 when discussing climate temperatures.

Low INFORMATION people - regardless of political ideology - tend to suffer from confirmation bias AND a willingness to spread what "fake to a LCC is truth to everyone else".

My largest problem with your offerings tend to 'confirm my bias': that you equate things someone does on the Right as indicative, and things someone does on the Left as an aberration. I can't give you a specific set of examples, I don't bother cataloging every thing that I read (regardless of the topic), but I allow information to adjust my understanding as it becomes available. And when something sounds really good (as compared to my understanding of a topic), I generally become MORE wary.

I dig, when I think it is worthy for me to do so. Attempts to portray one group vs another group as detrimental ISN'T worthy to me. The point they make, that "high-conscientiousness people" were unlikely to share misinformation.

This is a study to prove confirmation bias is more prevalent on the Right than on the Left. How nice. How many LCC/LCL and HCC/HCL were in the studies? Of the 19 or 20 news stories used, how many had corrections later? What were the news sources? CNN, MSNBC, FOX?

I think this study proves the confirmation bias of the authors, and the person that shared it....

@TheMiddleWay too bad you can't reconcile your own article's 1st paragraph "Who shares fake news? Political scientists, behavioral researchers and the media have said that political conservatives..." "Such sweeping generalizations threaten to condemn everyone who subscribes to conservative values" with the projected on to your victims the #5 "neuroticism" and 3rd paragraph explicit "We thought that conscientiousness..."

Quite pitiful to the projected #4 "agreeableness" category. The hubris of LCLs such as yourself with such demagoguery with other LCLs is nothing short of Flying Monkey recruitment & the diatribe becomes quite apparent to all. Taking into count the responses, positive and negative.

Its just another one of your logical fallacies; it is full of the same 'whataboutisms' by the authors' own admittance, that you use against all who question you.

"the desire to disrupt and destroy the existing political and social institutions" projected by the author about LCCs is pure Marxism, especially in light of the 'peaceful' protests of Antifa & BLM in cities such as Portland, Seattle & CHAZ, Chicago, Minneapolis, Atlanta, et cetera et cetera.....WITH MSM support and socialist democrats apparent approval. Not too forget the 'Defund the Police' existing law enforcement institutions.

You have nonchalant outrageous insolence, impertinence, and an arrogance rudeness towards others who do not agree with you, let alone question your 'facts'.

@TheMiddleWay Not angry at all, just pointing out the inerrant inconsistencies of your statements. Only taking you out is true.

If you feel the need to forgive others for the abuse you are inflicting, then you should question that motivation and deflection. That is pure effrontery ~ extreme rudeness without any ability to understand that your behavior is not acceptable to other people.

Friendly word of advice, stay away from open heat sources, your gaslighting might detonate.

@TheMiddleWay

"What about (....damnation)"

Damnation indeed. "What about .." means you aren't addressing the article but something else.

Actually, I was trying to point out that their choice of topic - covid - when there were other topics that could have had a different result. Also, the 'news sources' themselves are compromised: how many stories used had corrections that were not provided - or alternate sources with different info? Simple example: the use of HCQ has proven effective when administered EARLY or even before infection, and ivermectin has the same pedigree, despite significant "news" claiming it is a horse dewormer (solely).

A general desire for chaos explains the interactive effect of political ideology and conscientiousness on the sharing of fake news"

How was this determined? Because I doubt many people outside the rioters actual DESIRE chaos. Change certainly, but chaos? That has a bias that suggests the effort at relaying "false information" is both intentional AND knowingly, ie they know the information is false and relay it intentionally SOLELY to create chaos. And distrust?

People refusing to believe 'the facts' as presented, given they acknowledge having been presented with it and still refuse means they seek to sow discord and disinformation? I would suggest that the some 4,000 participants to a person, would disagree with the 'general desire for chaos'. MY only evidence is a knowledge of human behavior from literally tens of thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands, of interactions with others.

Could be. But ascribing said bias is a two edge sword After all, I could now say that that proves your confirmation bias and where would that get us?

A joint acknowledgement and awareness of each other's biases helps us to determine if the words being spoken by each are worthy of being considered. Afterall, if I know you think that all of us in fly-over country are ignorant religious fanatics with arsenals in our homes, then stories you offer that show an example of that I know is prejudicial from the start. Especially when you ignore or dismiss riots that are ANTIFA related...

@TheMiddleWay Dream on dunderhead dream on.

To quote you: "Please forgive me for the abuse of having an opinion different than yours." Opinion has nothing to do with it, when you are using LCC as a working model to dictate/manipulate/control others. Sophistry and neurotic of you.

Your LCL notwithstanding your petulance; maybe you can explain to me where I place LCC. I am in an impasse perhaps a conundrum....is it above or below the liberal designation of Trumpanzee?

You see, if I place it before ~ LCC Trumpanzee ~ it looks like the rank on a 'nom de guerra' of the MAGA Army. Certainly can't have that, its not #4 agreeable trait, is it?

If I place it after ~ Trumpanzee LCC ~ it looks like the name of a company that might be confusing to liberals, thinking it to be a warehouse for MAPs (Minor Attracted Pedophiles). Certainly can't have that. As I have no desire to create chaos, and want nothing but tranquility of conscientiousness, which captures differences in people’s orderliness, impulse control, conventionality and reliability.

Now, if you are still with me after my blatant obstinancy; and tolerating your Marxist cuckolding with that distortion using Goldberg's Big Five theory, I had you pegged as ESTJ and you have no ability whatsoever to see anything beyond executive action & control/compulsion; and can not comprehend & ignore the possibility of two right ways to get something accomplished.

You have all the markers for schizophrenia. Nothing to be ashamed of! As its no different and not your fault as someone afflicted with MS or acquiring diabetes is at fault. Just something to be aware of, later in life. If you have had the covid inoculation, no telling but in all probability it will become accelerated. Consider schizonal.

@TheMiddleWay you conveniently forgot 'dictate', the whole premise of your rationale

oh well, I can forgive you because you being sorry about my feelings has nothing nothing to with it. Purely empirical, stoically speaking, from my point of view. The only passion I have in this is freedom.

You know the "Importantly, other factors we studied, including support for Trump, time spent on social media, and political and economic conservatism were not as strongly tied to LCCs’ heightened tendency to share fake news." is very flawed.

That 'heightened tendency to share fake news' is completely skewered when dealing with millions of people especially the ones who are banned from Twitter, Facebook, You Tube, Vimeo, Patreon, Mewe, and other platforms. I am sure there are more banned people than that study of yours.

My personal example of this flawed assessment, the sharing fake news allegation insinuation, which I got from You Tube and when I shared their own video on that platform and other places as well, calling into question @ 1:40 to 1:50 or so, of their own video, that is obviously still there. BUT I am ostracized for sharing it?

Right....dream on Moonpie dream on.

@Weltansicht I find his reasoning for not having gotten a shot yet reasonable - HOWEVER, government is NOT using that reasoning for the millions LIKE HIM....and mandating it for 'everyone'. So, as a beneficiary of his individual right, and government's withholding of individual rights, I find him just a bit... self serving.

@tracycoyle Yes I agree, as I am pretty much same category as him BUT I live remote Ozarks, not living in NYC (I am assuming😉 ) as CEO of Pfizer promoting why YOU should get vaxxed and he should not.

Blatant shameless hypocrisy and his eyes bugged out & stuttered quite a bit trying to find the right word salad to use, whereas before it was smooth fast talking well rehearsed sales pitch of psychological innuendo & the usual liberal shame game into compliance capitulation by demagoguery & insinuating guilt. The same old 'do as I say but don't dare do as I do' mantra.

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Let's see:

Asher Lawson ~ a graduate student who in his work (as a student) examines and uses big data building on judgement and decision making theory....ewww sounds like he has tons of experience in this field, I'll trust him with out a doubt

Hemant Kakkar ~ PhD of organized business management, a human resources manipulator expert....impressive indeed

'political conservatives are largely responsible for the proliferation of misinformation' ~ really? such as in Jack Dorsey's statement of 'the freedom to moderate content is critical to us'? or MSM lying about the weather? or that woman interviewing that race car driver and gaslighting/telling everyone what the crowd was chanting?

The only risk to 'further and more dangerous polarization' is the liberal media; such as Don Lemon CNN and complaining about a 17 year old in Kenosha and completely ignoring the hypocrisy of his statements if you consider the MSM promoting the 17 year old climate activist saying 'How DARE you!'

Liberals have only a few tactics they have ever relied upon when engaged in dialogue , usually shaming to get capitulation or excessive demagoguery, emotional illogical rationalizations and when all else fails, to shock & awe with diatribes and cursing. Of course, that would be the 'low conscientousness liberals', would it not?

The 'specifically we predicted that low conscientousness conservatives (LCCs) would disseminate more misinformation than other conservatives or low conscientousness liberals' is quite revealing with 4,642 participants ~ unspecified by any identity markers, age, education, nationality, religion, gender, ect. Its very skewered for use by manipulators and opinion manufacturing.

Interesting that they ended the article with 'As shown by the long conspiratorial road that rioters followed to last January's Capitol insurrection, this spread can have serious and damaging consequences.' Maybe they could have used a much better example, such as the peaceful protests of Antifa & BLM in cities such as Portland, Seattle & CHAZ, Chicago, Minneapolis, Atlanta, et cetera et cetera.....

'Highly impulsive people who lean conservative are more likely to share false news stories.' That sure explains all the liberals who are becoming shocked by learning the truth now about Kenosha, from those most trusted news sources.

And "They have a desire to create chaos and won't be deterred by fact checkers." ~~ my my my....can you name a liberal that has been censored by the MSM and social media platforms? Can you name a city that has had rioting and anarchy by those low conscientousness conservatives?

"Won't be deterred by fact checkers" is the only veracity from this narcissistic devaluation projection manifestation. This idealization is to get liberals comfortable with the dehumanizing of the 'low conscientousness' of conservatives that beckons a broader 'progressive' nefarious agenda & scheme.

I imagine this is one of the exceptions to Mike Godwin's Law
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@TheMiddleWay exactly what I thought Mr. Morden. Your posted 'scholarly' paper was complete deflection, a true equivocation. Be careful of how many bales of straw you can carry, you are in real deep.

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I'm curious how they came up with conservative and chaos and the conservative desire the break the structures of society. I'm well aware of right wing accelerationists who want to burn it all down, but they're not conservatives, by definition.

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Can't access the study.

@TheMiddleWay

I have the link; it's access that I lack.

Do you know if this was a pre-registered study?

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I don't know who these people used in this "study" and whether or not they canvassed more people than I come in contact with, but my personal observations are that political left progressives whom I know are far more likely than conservatives to accept and use left wing talking points, such as what is disseminated by left wing media. In addition, politically left still believe in misinformation like the discredited Steele dossier, CRT is not being taught in public schools, the Republican victories in recent elections (like everything else) were due to racism, and that socialism is good and superior to free markets. Finally, from reading their conclusions, I conclude that their accepted results are more a reflection of forcing the conclusion of their study to prove their already biased premise.

@TheMiddleWay Are you really Jen Psaki?

@TheMiddleWay I call bs on the face and I don't even need to read the study. It's impossible that the LC subset of either side could ever spread more misinformation and narrative than the highly conscientious mainstream media. Both sides, but left wins just on quantity of platforms. Precious few out there are reporting in good faith. And the damage they do makes any sect of the population pale in comparison.

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Especially when 'third party fact checkers' were on ONE side of the ideological divide...

@TheMiddleWay Where did I read that more than 2/3rds of social studies could not be replicated? I'm sure it was a study somewhere.

@TheMiddleWay I IMPLIED, but did not argue...

@TheMiddleWay I would also argue that there are many more LCL's in existence than LCC's. Does the study dltake a stab at calculating absolute contributions of each group, or just their respective rates?

@TheMiddleWay I make the point because so much of what passes for scholarship, isn't. And what passes for 'information' is useless. What VALUE does this study have? What PURPOSE does it serve?

If it serves to distinguish, to SEPARATE people by categories, rather than bring them together to solve problems - REAL, not those imagined, and yes, this is an imagined problem because the issue is highly dependent upon the subject used to define the categories. Much like my 'damnation', the results would be exactly OPPOSITE had the topic been Trump/Russia collusion.

This study serves the only purpose of confirming the bias of those engaged in it.

And yes, I AM BIASED. Heavily. I recognize it, adapt to it, adjust my focus. But I don't demand others conform to MY bias - unlike much of the Left.

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You are the PREFECT example of who shares FAKE NEWS!!!
So what does that make you???????????

@TheMiddleWay A "LCC" ???

@TheMiddleWay Enlighten me!!!!
I don't speak LIB!!!!!!

@TheMiddleWay Ok, you are right, I did not read the entire article the first time, and after reaading the whole thing, I remember why!!!!!
It is mostly B.S., and appears to have been writing, as usual, by OVER EDUCATED LIBs!!!
And, I'll bet YOU still believe JOE won the election!!!! Talk about spreading miss-information!!!!

@TheMiddleWay WTF does that even mean?

@GaryMysels Over educated maybe incorrect, maybe over indoctrinated would be more accurate!!!

@Serg97 be nice to Middle, give him a break 😉 he's an LCL = very low-minded conscientousness liberal, otherwise he would have explained the LCC to you....its indicative of passive-aggressive personality types and he believes all of us to be his lab rats and uses amphiboly ambiguities to prove the haughtiness of his specious reasoning and corresponding sophistrical fallacious knowledge. Then will use the Straw Man fallacy to narcissistically psychologically abuse anybody that falls into his deflections & projections.

@Weltansicht Ok, and thank you!!!

@GaryMysels The 'Overeducated is only an insult to the undereducated.' comment; its a covert narcissist's word salad and another indicative of a passive aggressive personality disorder

@Weltansicht But it is still fun to TRY to turn Middleway around!!!
Who knows we might get lucky, I have in several cases!!!!!!

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