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LINK Will Fascism return in the 21st Century?

The year is 2019 and with British patriot plus nationalist Tommy Robinson being finally banned from YouTube, can we expect Fascism(an extended arm of Marxism) to make a shocking return through Silicon Valley giants aka Google, Facebook & Twitter?

TamC 4 Apr 2
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Personally I think it is already appearing in many western countries, but in a different format.
For example antifa, political correctness, the militant left in various forms and the herd mentality so common these days.
Of particular concern to me is the strangulation of free speech through the use of such terms as hate speech, racist, homophobe, misogynist etc!!!

Antifa literally means anti-fascist. You’re confusing an alt right ideology with a complete totalitarian movement.

@DevinLanglois Trouble is they are not actually anti fascist at all!!

anti-fa can call itself what ever the hell it wants, its methods are completely in line with the brown shirts. the color of clothing is not what matters.

I really don't get how people equate political violence with Fascism. The Communist revolutionaries in the October Revolution were violent yet people don't call them Fascist. At this point Fascism is just a slur used against political oppenents.

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Fascism never went away. The only change is that fascism is now mainstream. What to Antifa, Islamic Culture, Socialism have in common? They all rely heavily on fascistic policy and tactics to bring about the utter dominance of their ideals by crushing opposition at every turn. What is more fascistic than that?

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Totalitarian regimes are already in place in many places in the world. We have to remember that just because a country is not called "Communist" or "Fascist" or lets say in a more general way, "Totalitarian" it does not mean that country is a Democracy or a Republic. China doesnt proclaim itself as Communist anymore. Oh well, except that people in power are the same and their slaves keep making American iPhones for cents an hour. Same with Russia. The KGB people are still in power, arent they? Communists always change their speech in order to establish power. The moment laws are changed to punish people who are simply speaking freely while not physically harming anyone, then totalitarianism is already in place. Facebook suspended me for 30 days then again for more 30 days for calling "morons" people who were attacking me, but they never suspended a Latin guy who was openly saying he hated white people and white people were going to be screwed when Latinos outnumbered them - a truly RACIST comment, and as a Latina I find that appalling. Fb never suspended the MF. Facebook is targeting conservatives. Not a law, but "their rules". Oh. But their power is increasing, they own a lot of people. Btw, if they can block me on the second, at the exact moment I said "moron", that means Im already in their blacklist. Canada is creating laws to punish people for speaking genders "incorrectly", so now we can't make "mistakes", we better know that "transwhatever" have more rights than I do in Canada because there I can end up in jail if some sob simply lies that I called him/her with a different pronoun. Not to mention Trudeau openly bought the whole media to "help" people. Now, in the US, people loved Obama so blindly that if he said "look. Im not a Communist. I will just control the whole media for your sake, control companies, the FBI, etc because I need to protect you", stupid people would be like "AMEN! I LOVE YOU OBAMAAAAA". I fell for that BS before, I admit it, I believed Obama before his first term, fell for the whole pretty chat, but we see now how our press, social media and Academia is taken. Many leftists are celebrating, and they will keep celebrating even when the Left starts a bloodshed because they will keep thinking they are being "helped". When they realize they are helping their party to establish a totalitarian regime, its going to be too late because they have them all fheir power. Thats whats already going on with Fb, Twitter, Google. Im done with them and I hope many realize what theyre doing. Stalin didnt start killing people out of nowhere. He put classes against classes. They made people hate each other then killed them all. U can disagree with everyone, but being punished by law for disliking certain values, thats the end of free speech.

Welcome to Canada.

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Fascism is often painted as residing on the right. Yet many of the principles of fascism are embodied in liberal ideologies. Fascism gives an impression of embodying capitalist goals, when in reality wages, hours, what and how much was produced, was all regulated by government. In Hitler's Germany, Massive public works programs and steep taxes provided work for the unemployed, food lines appeared regularly. Sound familiar? The national part of national socialism is the part that placed the emphasis on expanding the power of the "Aryan race". Government programs expanded when Hitler came into power as did increased polarization. A perceived threat, a myth percieved by society as an destroyer of society Jews and money, Rich whites and money. Mussolini said:

"The citizen in the Fascist State is no longer a selfish individual who has the anti-social right of rebelling against any law of the Collectivity. The Fascist State with its corporative conception puts men and their possibilities into productive work and interprets for them the duties they have to fulfill."

"The state should retain supervision and each property owner should consider himself appointed by the state. It is his duty not to use his property against the interests of others among his own people. This is the crucial matter. The Third Reich will always retain its right to control the owners of property." Adolf Hitler, 1933

Since every member is an employee of the state, the state has the authority to suppress uprisings, control reproduction, education, housing and so on. It can creep into society a little bit at a time, but there has to be a public that is receptive to the message, and a segment of the population that is ready to use force. This will be most evident, in my opinion, by laws designed to restrict individual liberties. It is also relevant to point out that book burning, control of speech, confiscation of guns were state sanctioned.

Yes, I think fascism could emerge at some point.

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Identitarians are working hard to ensure it flourishes! Fuck 'em! Don't see Tommy as a fascist nor an identitarian but someone fighting to maintain a voice in a state moving towards fascism.

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Fascism is alive and well in China, Cuba, Venezuela, and a half dozen other Marxist inspired, state controlled economies. What you are describing is more closely akin to Global Elitists. A new take on the Dictatorship of the Proletariat with a high tech billionaire spin added to the membership requirements.

These Global Elitists like Google love communist dictatorships like China

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It is necessary to act collectively to rid oneself of a collective tyranny, I would think. The reason Nazism was placed on the right side of the political spectrum is because it opposed communism. Really they are both centrally planned socio/economic societies. There are differences, communism is established on a revolutionary basis and is an internationalist movement. Fascism is nationalist and evolves out of a democracy. Communism incites and supports the victim class and Nazism supports the oppressor class. The way to avoid both is to not create a victim class or an oppressor class. America has classes but they are fluid and that is perhaps the way to avoid any predominance of one class over the other. Instilling the idea that you can make it, if you have life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness has worked well in America until Identity politics came about and manufactured the victim class through a cultural marxist ideology.

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Yep, already here to a small degree

Source:

Getting banned by Facebook is a bragging point

Thus why myself and many other people I know have alt accounts on FB. Lol

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It has never left...

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Fascism never went away. The Fascist rise in Europe was funded by the Corporate Oligarchy that conquered America in 1867 .

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Fascism return? it's never gone away and never will. Like any other evil it's always with us...

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Would any countries LABEL openly themself fascist.....no

Are any current regimes fascist in all aspects except name. Yes

Certain political philosophies carry a heavy stigma in their very names: socialism, communism, fascism. The stigma is such that socialists (like Bernie Sanders and his followers) try to soften the stigma by calling it "democratic" socialism. Most people who hold dearly to communist ideals actually recoil in horror when confronted with the word. They cannot allow themselves to accept the name because of communisms horrific history of death on a magnitude beyond comprehension. Yet here they are today; standing, marching, demonstrating in the streets violently demanding implementation of socialist policies leading to their imaginary idealized communist garden of eden.

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The Chinese economy is Fascist. The EU economies are fascist. The US economy is fascist. albeit to a lesser extent. The economic elements of involve control via heavy regulation, redistribution of wealth, government involvement in health care ... sound familiar?

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Isn't that what China is? Fascist? They are horrendously racist. Definitely believe in the racial superiority of the Chinese people. The government has complete control over the people and the economy but allows private property and enterprise as long as it serves the state. I think the state may have an actual controlling interest most business. Plus they seem to want to colonize and conquer the world.

China, North Korea, Cuba, Venezuela and others are all Communist nations. Fascism is really a tool whereby they squelch opposition. Some people say fascism is a political philosophy. I always thought of fascism as a working tactic. It uses brutality with violence, imprisonment, torture as a way to make uprising and protest unthinkable.

But hang on, most Eastern countries behave in the same way, particularly re citizenship...we have embraced multiculturalism and diversity and this is praised as the highest achievement possible...and at the same time belittled our own cultural heritage.

@iThink I kind of differentiate between fascism and communism as fascism is a little bit less totalitarian. Still totalitarian but for instance. You were not allowed to have a garden in your back yard in the USSR until right before it fell in the late 80's. Cuba until just a few years ago. The fascist at least let you do that. it would also seem the fascists would leave your thoughts alone just as long as you faithfully served the state. The communists however needed complete control of thought and would execute anyone just based on the suspicion you had a wrong thought.

@iThink That's literally just authoritarianism.

@UberClown
Yeah,
Fascism and Communism are authoritarian.

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What made you think it ever left? It can be found in several countries around the world.

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I would ask if you believed it has ever “gone away” but then you clarify your question at the end ...
“Through the Silicone Valley Giants ...”?
I doubt it ... they are too much involved in Capitalism ... however, through their inept practices I believe that they are Enabling it’s return.
They are simply the Very Large Useful Idiots that Socialism, Communism and Facism ALWAYS relies on to lay the groundwork ... to pave the way ... whose corpses are, in turn, used as pavement.
I think they will be totally shocked when they are brought down by the Frankenstein they are actually helping to create.

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Tommy Robinson, the former member of the BNP? The once openly neo-nazi BNP? Swastikas and shit, boots and braces? Those guys?

Good.

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It returned a decade ago to the US.

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Facism is a set of beliefs that some people embrace in response to their perception that circumstances warrant embracing things like strong central government, authoritarian leaders, state controls and protection from encroaching cultures etc. Facism like communism, socialism, libertarianism and all the other isms out there are solutions to perceived "problems". It's only when they fail that people realize their inherent weaknesses but the lessons never take. Similar circumstance provoke similar reactions and the old failed solutions get trotted out by pandering politicians, despots and well meaning leaders.
The real world changes constantly, creates stressful conditions which results in a variety of injustices, pain and suffering. The solutions too often become lurches left or right into old isms that may appear to solve the initial problem but usually with other higher costs later. The price of theses costs involve loss of freedom, economic disaster, human suffering and the turmoil associated with societal upheaval and conflict. The root cause is the desire for quick, simple fixes to tough or unpopular issues combined with the search for power by certain groups or individuals.
Fascism is a failed solution that will unfortunately stay in the world's playbook, and be trotted out when circumstances appear to fit it's narrative. Will it prosper and grow in the near future? Only if other approaches fail to address the issues that make people so desperate and unhappy that they will jump onto this contorted solution.

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It already has

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Facism is a set of beliefs that some people embrace in response to their perception that circumstances warrant embracing things like strong central government, authoritarian leaders, state controls and protection from encroaching cultures etc. Facism like communism, socialism, libertarianism and all the other isms out there are solutions to perceived "problems". It's only when they fail that people realize their inherent weaknesses but the lessons never take. Similar circumstance provoke similar reactions and the old failed solutions get trotted out by pandering politicians, despots and well meaning leaders.
The real world changes constantly, creates stressful conditions which results in a variety of injustices, pain and suffering. The solutions too often become lurches left or right into old isms that may appear to solve the initial problem but usually with other higher costs later. The price of theses costs involve loss of freedom, economic disaster, human suffering and the turmoil associated with societal upheaval and conflict. The root cause is the desire for quick, simple fixes to tough or unpopular issues combined with the search for power by certain groups or individuals.
Fascism is a failed solution that will unfortunately stay in the world's playbook, and be trotted out when circumstances appear to fit it's narrative. Will it prosper and grow in the near future? Only if other approaches fail to address the issues that make people so desperate and unhappy that they will jump onto this contorted solution.

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