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People like Bernie Sanders are holding humanity back from the stars-
[redstate.com]

Ben Shapiro responded to a tweet put out by Bernie Sanders that I think really nails this. On Monday, Sanders was displeased that billionaire Richard Branson developed a space plane that he proceeded to use to fly in space. It was a move that brought us one step closer to civilian space travel, but instead of this being marked as a celebratory moment of humanity inching closer to the stars, Sanders saw it as another perversion of capitalism, and that if Branson has money to fly in space, he has the money to give to the government so it can then give it to people.

Shapiro called him out on his socialistic viewpoint, noting that Sanders is completely avoiding the uprising happening in Cuba at this moment, and maybe to not slam capitalism from the safety of one of his expensive homes.

SpikeTalon 10 July 13
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Unfortunately WE … the PRODUCERS … the “Conservatives”of the World have Provided For, Enabled, Willingly Supported the NON Producers of the World.
By Our OWN “Good Deeds” and “Humanitarian Efforts” We UNDO ALL Our Work. OUR Work, Sweat and Efforts have CREATED the “Bernies” of the World.
OUR Charity is the Nail We Have Driven Through OUR OWN FOOT.

WHO IS … John Galt?

Bernie is a “Skimmer” … a “Scammer” … He points to the Fruits of a PRODUCER and Tries to make NON-Producers “Feel” Displeased … Unhappy … that THEY haven’t achieved such a situation by Pretending that there is NO Value Difference between PRODUCTION and NON PRODUCTION.

OBAMA’S line of HorseShit … “You Didn’t Make That” … is Typical of the Bernies, AOCs, the BLM Bimbos (Ize a trained Marxist) of the world.

The only Justification for Existence for “Socialists” such as Bernie is the wresting the Fruit of SOMEBODY Else’s Labor Away from Them and “Redistribute” it to the Non Productive Members of the Proletariat … AFTER Making Sure He Gets His “Cut” of those “Takings”.

Except that Bernie (and his ilk) Takes a Cut DIRECTLY from the Proletariat REGARDLESS of whether he “Provides” them with ANYTHING.

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If Branson wants to spend HIS money playing around with rockets and such well then - that's his business. Who is Bernie Sanders or anyone else to tell Branson how he should spend his own money.
Having said that (with conviction I will note) I also will add that the space programs - the ideas of "flying to the Moon, Mars...out there" seems a tremendous waste of resources. NONE of the planets in our solar system offer any benefit - NOTHING even equal too the resources spent to travel there much less to establish some kind of habital structure there.
There is but 1 - ONE habital planet in our solar system and we're living on it. All other planets are of extremely hostile environments.

So what are you going to do once you "fly to Mars - or Venus..." places where even the slightest thing that can go wrong will prove fatal to whoever is stupid enough to put himself in that environment in the first place.
But hey - it's their neck - their money - right? So go ahead and Godspeed to them. Except I for one do resent the billions - or is it trillions of public monies spent on someones silly fantasies about zooming about the galaxy like Starbuck.

For better AND for worse we (mere earthlings) have already made use of near earth space - orbiting satellites do everything from relay communications, monitor weather patterns and other geological events and patterns - AND they spy on us. So as I said - "for better AND for worse"...

The fact is that there are limits to how fast and how far our little machines can go. Not to mention the unknowns regarding extended time in a zero gravity environments effects on the humans who would occupy those relatively slow moving spacecraft. 7 months is the time it would take to "fly to mars". 7 months and each minute of that trip is frought with peril for the human occupants of that spacecraft.

So, what is there on Mars that makes the trip worthy of the human life and the monies required to make it happen? NOTHING. I am reminded of the pat answer to the question of why climb Everest...answer..."because it's there". Might be a good enough answer for the mountaineer who aspires for the notoriety of it all but NOT good enough reason for the justification of wasting (that's right I say wasting) of trillions of dollars and the cavalier tossing away the lives of the humans foolish enough to take that ride to Mars.

As I said in the beginning of this little essay - If Mr Branson wants to spend his own money on rocketeering himself into orbit - well then...who is anybody to stand in his way. Just don't ask me to approve of the use of public treasure - tax monies - money stolen by gov't from the productive private sector to help him.

Well, I agree … somewhat.

I don’t agree with your idea that Space is of little to no value as tgere are Tremendous Resources out there.
You sound a bit like Europeans of the 1500s who Couldn’t Imagine WHAT Value the “New World” could POSSIBLY provide to them (despite the obvious Gold flowing into the Spanish Coffers,

I find it odd that you point to the Value Received from “near earth” space while stating, essentially, that “That’s all there is”.
Clearly, one of those statements must be in error.
It seems that you believe that the inexorable advances in Science and Technology will not provide answers to the problems that we have not, as yet, answered … or even met.
Just a Minor Point … probably 90% of the Technology You use today was Directly or Indirectly CREATED … Discovered … due to the “Space Race” of the 50s - 60s - 70s.
Space is a “resource” we’ve barely even touched and you’ve decided already that it is of little to no value?

What I Agree with you is …

As to “Approving” the use of “Public Treasure” … STOLEN Monies … for ANY Use … Why should you “Approve”? Its STOLEN and in the “Real World” there are laws against ANY “Use” of STOLEN Property.

In a “Real World” scenario, a Person should ONLY receive that which THEY Personally Earn.
However, this is not a “Real World” … this is a World where PRODUCERS are Forced or Coerced into GIVING … Supporting … those who Do Not … who WILL NOT “PRODUCE”.

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I would have thought that you would take issue with public private partnerships like this.

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Let's do a math exercise--how many times richer than Bernie Sanders is Richard Branson? And how many times richer is Bernie Sanders than the average retired professional?

Not the point. Point is Sanders is a wealthy man who owns at least one luxury home (probably owns more than one property) all thanks to a free market society. The main reason he supports socialist policies is so he could fatten his own coffers, just like the other politicians do, socialism for the rich.

@SpikeTalon That is the point. He has a typical amount of wealth for a retired professional. In fact, his multiple of the average person's wealth is even in the single digits. Richard Branson's multiple of his wealth is in the quadruple digits. That's an incredible gulf of wealth. This space nonsense is just about Branson taking more political power away from us. That's holding back all of our creative potential.

@WilyRickWiles That's still considerable wealth being he's only a politician. Are politicians really worth that kind of money, especially knowing how they claim to want to help the poor working class? Branson didn't earn his wealth via taxpayer dollars, and I have more respect for someone like him who started out on the bottom than I do for politicians who make empty promises to the citizens they are supposed to serve.

I smell the strong stench of communism here.

WRW … Once again you come espousing HorseShit …
Try your question this way …

  • How much MORE has Richard Branson CREATED than Bernie Sanders?
  • How much MORE has the Average Retired Professional CREATED than Bernie Sanders?
  • How or WHAT has Bernie CREATED or PROVIDED in his Life? (Hint: NOTHING)

Bernie has managed solely to be a “Pied Piper” to a Segment of the Largely Non Productive aspect of Society by Promising Them “Free Stuff” and “Social and Financial Equality” through the Use and Taking of the Fruits of OTHER Peoples’ Labors. Meanwhile, like Every Other Con-Man in Existence he got THOSE Schmucks to Give HIM Their Money …

Bernie … Has Become … IS … the Typical Socialist/Communist “Upper Echelon” Politburo Type and simply climbed on the backs of the “Common Man” boosting HIMSELF to a place “Social and Financial” Well Being and … DID ABSOLUTELY NOTHING for His “Supporters”.

Somehow WRW it figures that YOU would be completely FINE and in Agreement with that kind of Crap.

@Bay0Wulf Bernie is a pied-piper of losers. He amassed his millions off a book sale -- a creative endeavor not allowed in a commie society. He also readily inspired mass shooters. Typical commie overlord.

@bobbo666
Well, yes … and also his “Electioneering” … money put up by his non-producing followers intended to lift him to Higher Office so he could ensure “redistribution” of Other Peoples’ Wealth and Labor.
When it became obvious he wasn’t going to win, he simply pocketed all those “donations” and … bought a lake house in New Hampshire … and “Padded His Pocket”.

@bobbo666, @SpikeTalon
When Bernie “dropped out” of his “race” for Political Office (which you might recall, he did … TWICE) … without actually TRYING Very Hard … without actually spending hardly ANY of it on his “campaign” … he simply pocketed ALL the “Donations” that were “Given” him by his followers.

I’d call it THEFT (Stealing from his followers) except They were Stupid enough to Follow Him, Support Him … GIVE Money to him … TWICE.

Wow, I must have struck a nerve.

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